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sda

And you would think a former seller of books would promote proper grammar. 😆

sda

With the weather threat of sleet, snow and ice, the local weather folks are having the time of their life of proclaiming emergency! Not to discount the fact we will have bad weather but the build up is crazy. Grocery and hardware stores with full parking lots and stripped clean of inventory.

cdnpinhead

sda said:

And you would think a former seller of books would promote proper grammar. 😆

I thought you'd been on here longer than that.

jmonroe1

sda said:

And you would think a former seller of books would promote proper grammar. 😆

I don’t think you need grammar when you sell picture books.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

Tsunamis in Santa Cruz CA? What the heck?

28firefighter

We’ve been under a Tsunami advisory all day because of our proximity to the shores of puget sound. No big deal.

imidazol97

stickguy said:

I tend to put midgrade in the Acura. Pricing on that is weird, since I believe it is created on the spot by pumping from both RUG and PUG tanks (so there is no midgrade tank). But quite often, the price is skewed way closer to one of those 2.

At my Conoco station recently RUG about 3.20, mid 3.27, but PUG 3.59 (something along those lines). I don't mind, it just seems odd.

Here at normal stations there's a 30 cent step R-M-P. The name stations sometimes have a 40 cent step R-M and 50 cent step M-P. I have seen Shell with a 50 cent R-M step to make their price on teh sign low to compete with other stations selling the same gas with supposedly different additives.

However, in the old days, the pumps used to have readout meters on fuel that pump had used for the regular feed and the premium feed. I watched those meters when I was pumping Midgrade and the regular would pump 2 gallons for 1 gallon of premium. So each gallon of Mid was 1/3 premium and 2/3 regular.
But the price was midway between the two. So it was more profitable for the company since the price should have been 1/3 of the way between regular adn premium.

imidazol97

sda said:

And you would think a former seller of books would promote proper grammar. 😆

OP claimed elementary schools there didn't emphasize good grammar. I checked with my wife,
a Permanent Licensed Ohio teacher with a Masters Degree and a special area in Reading, and
she says here we always taught and emphasized proper grammar.

Why do the teaching without doing it right? Would you want your Mercedes assembled to
the colloquial level of correctness or to the exacting quality the advertising propaganda
wants everyone to believe that car gets? < Humor off>

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

stickguy said:

I tend to put midgrade in the Acura. Pricing on that is weird, since I believe it is created on the spot by pumping from both RUG and PUG tanks (so there is no midgrade tank). But quite often, the price is skewed way closer to one of those 2.

At my Conoco station recently RUG about 3.20, mid 3.27, but PUG 3.59 (something along those lines). I don't mind, it just seems odd.

Here at normal stations there's a 30 cent step R-M-P. The name stations sometimes have a 40 cent step R-M and 50 cent step M-P. I have seen Shell with a 50 cent R-M step to make their price on teh sign low to compete with other stations selling the same gas with supposedly different additives.

However, in the old days, the pumps used to have readout meters on fuel that pump had used for the regular feed and the premium feed. I watched those meters when I was pumping Midgrade and the regular would pump 2 gallons for 1 gallon of premium. So each gallon of Mid was 1/3 premium and 2/3 regular.
But the price was midway between the two. So it was more profitable for the company since the price should have been 1/3 of the way between regular adn premium.

I guess you’d call that a transfer fee.

jmonroe

Michaell

28firefighter said:

We’ve been under a Tsunami advisory all day because of our proximity to the shores of puget sound. No big deal.

The entire west coast has been under an advisory. I think the biggest surge has been 2’.

driver100

sda said:

And you would think a former seller of books would promote proper grammar. 😆

lol....but I learned a valuable lesson....good grammar and great writing doesn't necessarily sell. John Grisham's first book was a literary masterpiece and it won awards when he finally found someone who would publish it.....but it didn't sell. He studied how to write a best seller and he found the formula, and he wrote the Firm, which sold millions. The same thing happened to Sydney Sheldon, his first book was The Naked Face, it won awards but didn't sell very well, then he dumped the idea of writing great literature and wrote mega sellers ; A Stranger in the Mirror, (1976) ; Bloodline, (1977) ; Rage of Angels, and many more.

The lesson is, if you are too literate people ignore you, you're boring to the masses, so I write and speak in what I call, "Popular English".......to keep my fan base happy.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

sda said:

And you would think a former seller of books would promote proper grammar. 😆

OP claimed elementary schools there didn't emphasize good grammar. I checked with my wife,
a Permanent Licensed Ohio teacher with a Masters Degree and a special area in Reading, and
she says here we always taught and emphasized proper grammar.

Why do the teaching without doing it right? Would you want your Mercedes assembled to
the colloquial level of correctness or to the exacting quality the advertising propaganda
wants everyone to believe that car gets? < Humor off>

I taught elementary school in 1969 to 1972, and got my permanent certificate, but teaching wasn't for me. At the time the program was not to have students lose their creativity by having them worry about grammar or spelling. It was probably an idea that had to be tested. I think it made sense, but I doubt if it became a permanent idea. I think people can get hung up on good grammar or spelling and lose sight of the big picture.

It's like the Beatles, they aren't graduates of The Juilliard School of Music, and they may not be able to play classical music, but they make music that is enjoyed by the masses, that most people can relate to. Do you want to be as correct as possible or do you want to appeal to the masses? I think making a car is different, with a car you want it to be as perfect as possible, engineering and mechanically etc. With literature, you could be Shakespeare or Dickens, but you would probably starve these days, you have to be able to write stuff Netflix will show, or write best sellers like Grisham and Stephen King etc.

sb55

28firefighter said:

I’ve always been fascinated by people who talk about money (other than purposes of salary equity). Mostly because they seem to think someone cares, and 9 times out of 10, no one does.

My neighbor is an author who hit it big with a self published series of books. He's making a lot of $, but his only conversation is what he is buying next or where he and his wife either went out to eat or will be going next. Over and over and over again. At his house up here he has 5 cars including a Maserati. He bought a Ferrari 360 spider, but his wife doesn't like it so it's for sale. I finally told him that I don't want to hear about every time I see him, but to no avail.

sb55

stickguy said:

I tend to put midgrade in the Acura. Pricing on that is weird, since I believe it is created on the spot by pumping from both RUG and PUG tanks (so there is no midgrade tank). But quite often, the price is skewed way closer to one of those 2.

At my Conoco station recently RUG about 3.20, mid 3.27, but PUG 3.59 (something along those lines). I don't mind, it just seems odd.

Our Costco doesn't have mid-grade. But the premium is listed a non-ethanol, so that's probably why.

driver100

sb55 said:

28firefighter said:

I’ve always been fascinated by people who talk about money (other than purposes of salary equity). Mostly because they seem to think someone cares, and 9 times out of 10, no one does.

My neighbor is an author who hit it big with a self published series of books. He's making a lot of $, but his only conversation is what he is buying next or where he and his wife either went out to eat or will be going next. Over and over and over again. At his house up here he has 5 cars including a Maserati. He bought a Ferrari 360 spider, but his wife doesn't like it so it's for sale. I finally told him that I don't want to hear about every time I see him, but to no avail.

It isn't easy making a living from writing books...probably one in a million makes it...so maybe that is why he is the way he is. I could be wrong, but buying 5 cars and bragging about it doesn't sound like a happy, content person. I am guessing, but it would seem a content person buys the car they really want...maybe a few if they are like Jay Leno and love cars, but they have other interests and things they can talk about....and maybe ask you something to learn a little more about what other people are like, or what they are thinking too (btw.......I know this too is not a preposition, and it was redundant but I thought I would throw it in).

snakeweasel

@sb55 said:
Our Costco doesn't have mid-grade. But the premium is listed a non-ethanol, so that's probably why.

The Costcos around here don't have mid grade and PUG has ethanol so its not an ethanol thing.

abacomike

@snakeweasel said:

@sb55 said:
Our Costco doesn't have mid-grade. But the premium is listed a non-ethanol, so that's probably why.

The Costcos around here don't have mid grade and PUG has ethanol so its not an ethanol thing.

I have never been to a Costco that sold mid grade gasoline. Only RUG and PUG. My twin brother lives up in Ponte Vedra FL (just south of Jacksonville) and none of the Costcos up there sell mid grade gasoline.

My G90 owner’s manual only “recommends” PUG, but with twin turbos and 365 hp, I choose only to put PUG into the tank. If Costco offered mid grade, I might try it to see if mpg’s or performance was negatively affected.

venture

If you want to use a mid-grade, couldn't you just pump half premium and half regular?

What is mid-grade even for? For saving $3 or $4 when you fill up?

I don't remember ever seeing that any of my cars required a "mid-grade gasoline", just an octane rating that translated to regular or premium.

stickguy

buying more octane than you need is a waste. So yes, it is saving money. Some cars that can use higher octane gas are happier with mid grade but don't need premium. Our old TL was listed as RUG OK, premium recommended (like ever Acura, even though they used identical engines to Honda that was RUG). My sister bought it new, I sold it at 175k with engine like new. That car never ran happy on RUG (a little knocking) but was perfect on mid. Going to PUG made no noticeable difference, so it got mid grade it's entire life. on our V6 RDX I ran all 3 grades at different times, and could never tell what was in the tank. And a couple of my best MPG runs were on RUG.

I have no desire to pay an extra $4 for the same amount of gas to go the same distance if I don't have to.

imidazol97

I feed my cars a steady diet of MUG. There's smoother running, IMHO, on it compred to RUG. And it may be delivering a small improvement in fuel mileage. YEMV.

One engine is a 1.4 L turbo. The other a 2.5L NA that's using dual variable valve timing to maximize performance and mileage. Both are GM.

As for which is grammatically correct, I don't know. LOL

snakeweasel

venture said:

If you want to use a mid-grade, couldn't you just pump half premium and half regular?

What is mid-grade even for? For saving $3 or $4 when you fill up?

I don't remember ever seeing that any of my cars required a "mid-grade gasoline", just an octane rating that translated to regular or premium.

PUG is 50 cents a gallon more than MUG at my usual station. Filling up the BMW would mean a 6 to 7 dollar savings per fill up. This would result in a 2 cent a mile reduction in gas costs which adds up over time.

The octane rating on the BMW translates to mid grade.

imidazol97

I've noticed that Marathon stations tend to stick to the 30/30 steps between R-M-P while other name brand stations tend to do 30, 40, 50 cent steps. So I usually buy Marathon M, R, P depending on how I feel at the time. But I also have Kroger fuel points to use which usuallly take $1.00 off a 35 gallon fill up once a month, and I have points for my coffee quick market to use which can be up to $1.50 off every 45 days for 25 gallons. However, they both are quality fuels.

I believe fuels from all 3 stations come from the same pipeline station 30 miles away at a fuel depot.

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

I feed my cars a steady diet of MUG. There's smoother running, IMHO, on it compred to RUG. And it may be delivering a small improvement in fuel mileage. YEMV.

One engine is a 1.4 L turbo. The other a 2.5L NA that's using dual variable valve timing to maximize performance and mileage. Both are GM.

As for which is grammatically correct, I don't know. LOL

Since they’re GM cars that would make them NOT grammatically correct.

jmonroe

tjc78

On more important topics…. Go Eagles!!!!!!!

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

On more important topics…. Go Eagles!!!!!!!

You’re a dreamer but they do have a better chance than the Steelers.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

“The lesson is, if you are too literate people ignore you, you're boring to the masses, so I write and speak in what I call, "Popular English".......to keep my fan base happy. ”

That’s ok, I’ll skip the novel but can I get a t-shirt or a coffee mug?

imidazol97

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

On more important topics…. Go Eagles!!!!!!!

You’re a dreamer but they do have a better chance than the Steelers.

jmonroe

I'm still basking in the glow of the Bengals having won last evening. This has been
a long, slow drudge since 1980 when I could barely give away the good seats I had
won in a contest for the Bengals in the previous stadium. Good seats, mind you.

imidazol97

@kyfdx
Was Kyfdx out there in Paul Brown Stadium watching the Bengals win?

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

buying more octane than you need is a waste. So yes, it is saving money. Some cars that can use higher octane gas are happier with mid grade but don't need premium. Our old TL was listed as RUG OK, premium recommended (like ever Acura, even though they used identical engines to Honda that was RUG). My sister bought it new, I sold it at 175k with engine like new. That car never ran happy on RUG (a little knocking) but was perfect on mid. Going to PUG made no noticeable difference, so it got mid grade it's entire life. on our V6 RDX I ran all 3 grades at different times, and could never tell what was in the tank. And a couple of my best MPG runs were on RUG.

I have no desire to pay an extra $4 for the same amount of gas to go the same distance if I don't have to.

My Mustang could run on regular but got 5% more horsepower on premium. After the upgrades in required 91 octane but I put 90 octane in once and it ran fine. My other cars do fine on 87.

Interestingly, we are required to put only regular in the company cars, even Maseratis. I never heard a ping out of any of them.

explorerx4

How about those Pats? Bills Josh Allen was dominant last night.

imidazol97

May everyone's favorite football team win.

abacomike

@venture said:
If you want to use a mid-grade, couldn't you just pump half premium and half regular?

What is mid-grade even for? For saving $3 or $4 when you fill up?

I don't remember ever seeing that any of my cars required a "mid-grade gasoline", just an octane rating that translated to regular or premium.

Minimum octane rating shows as 91 in my manual, but most premium brands, including Costco, rate their PUG as 93 octane down here in South Florida.

kyfdx

imidazol97 said:

@kyfdx
Was Kyfdx out there in Paul Brown Stadium watching the Bengals win?

No, I had season tickets from 1990-2010. Probably only been to 8-10 games, since then.
Now, I watch from the comfort of my couch. Pretty sweet result!

I did get out to three UC games this year, including at Notre Dame and the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.

kyfdx

imidazol97 said:

May everyone's favorite football team win.

Unless they are playing my team.

jmonroe1

explorerx4 said:

How about those Pats? Bills Josh Allen was dominant last night.

Yep, the Pats ran into a buzz saw last night.

jmonroe

stickguy

explorerx4 said:

How about those Pats? Bills Josh Allen was dominant last night.

was an entertaining game.

tjc78

@jmonroe1 said:
You’re a dreamer but they do have a better chance than the Steelers.

jmonroe

Hanging head in shame right now

graphicguy

imidazol97 said:

May everyone's favorite football team win.

Thank you! Ended up being invited to the Bengals GAME. It was ELECTRIC at the stadium. We tailgated AFTER the game for about 45 mins waiting for traffic to clear.

People and monetary bragging….whenever someone quizzes me about my monetary status, I tell them to take whatever number they imagine me having, and to multiply it by 5, and they’ll be a little short!

graphicguy

Read a blurb yesterday from BP stating it’s now beginning to be more profitable putting. In electric charging stations than to put in gasoline pumps. And, that will become the catalyst to quickly build out charging station infrastructure.

stickguy

having a lot more convenient charging stations will certainly be nice. But until all the EVs can super fast charge, and the majority of the charge points support that, it will still be a problem of taking way too long to make a charge stop (especially with the majority of EVs having real world ranges in the 200 mile range. at best.

I go from SJ to Albany area frequently, and quite often leave after dinner (so maybe driving from 8-12 at night). Zero chance I want to have to stop at some sketchy, deserted parking area behind a rest stop to spend an hour plugged in. And have to schedule another stop later to get home.

abacomike

Just got a call from my son in Southern California about his PET-Scan last week. The malignant tumor on his upper spine shrunk 98% over the past three months thanks to the chemotherapy. His prognosis has improved but his chances of a recurrence are still 50/50.

He also told me my grandson (21 year old at college) had the omicron Covid virus along with his girlfriend. Both are recovering.

So I finally got some good news for a change! 🤓

sda

We’ve had a day of weather. Since around 2:30 am, sleet, freezing rain, strong winds, more sleet and now snow showers. Did not budge from the house. Our two dogs are less than impressed with not being able to go outside and into the yard. It is pretty. Thankfully all is well.

mjfloyd1

That’s good news @abacomike

explorerx4

@abacomike,
I petition the lord with prayer for you and Justin every week.

qbrozen

Eagles made me very sad. Buccs had a little help from the zebras (of course), but Eagles mostly just beat themselves. So much odd play calling and bad on-field decisions.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

“The lesson is, if you are too literate people ignore you, you're boring to the masses, so I write and speak in what I call, "Popular English".......to keep my fan base happy. ”

That’s ok, I’ll skip the novel but can I get a t-shirt or a coffee mug?

Sure, the novel costs $30, a T-shirt or coffee mug is just $39.99...see the website for details.

laurasdada

The December Pats reared their ugly heads against the Bills. Josh Allen is an E ticket ride, fun to watch, given my low expectations for the Pats (but hope sprang eternal. Until the end of the first quarter, we've been to this rodeo before). Did not expect the Pats to do their best Jacksonville imitation...
So, we're on to next season and the continuing education of Mr. Jones. And, hopefully, a younger, faster defense.
Money? I had too much, so I moved to Massachusetts and that took care of that! Hence, my love of Costco.

explorerx4

For some reason, the bye week killed the Pats.
Who knew the play to spark the Chiefs was a defensive TD by the Steelers?

ab348

The Bengals-Raiders game was very entertaining. Cowboys-49ers was one-sided until near the end when it got wild, but was spoiled by the Cowboys shooting themselves in the foot all day. I like Mike McCarthy’s personality but I don’t think he is a great coach. The other games were meh for me. The problem with expanding the playoffs is that you get lower quality teams in the bottom seeds and that gives poor game matchups.

jmonroe1

@ab348 said:
The Bengals-Raiders game was very entertaining. Cowboys-49ers was one-sided until near the end when it got wild, but was spoiled by the Cowboys shooting themselves in the foot all day. I like Mike McCarthy’s personality but I don’t think he is a great coach. The other games were meh for me. The problem with expanding the playoffs is that you get lower quality teams in the bottom seeds and that gives poor game matchups.

But it makes more money for the league and that’s what it’s all about. If by chance you get entertained good for you but you have to follow the money.

jmonroe