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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    I thought those lemon guys always did it on contingency basis.

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    snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,328
    berri said:

    Be careful of that French model buddy. It will be all money and frustrations B)

    I dated a French model back in my younger days. Oh La La. B)

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

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    snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,328
    Michaell said:

    I think this is the kind of house we would all like to have:

    https://www.facebook.com/SpeedSociety/photos/pcb.1216491678368132/1216491061701527/?type=1&theater

    Awhile back I posted a link to some place like that near me, a place called Iron Gate motor condos.

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    snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,328
    driver100 said:


    GG, I see Fiat Chrysler is trying to get GM to merge with FC once again.........

    Great, that means that GG can go back to the dealership and yell "Fix It Again Tony".

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,671
    Driver100 said:
    It is pretty low to the ground so it was probably a stone chip. They sold me touch up paint for $28 and then they put it on....looks pretty good.

    I almost had a chip or worse yesterday. I was driving the new car on the highway and was in the first lane. A flatbed tractor/trailer was ahead of me in the center lane. Suddenly I see a baseball sized object fly about 10 feet in the air and come bouncing right at me. A vision of the crying Nationwide baby flashed in my mind and I jerked the steering wheel to the right. Fortunately it was in "sport" steering mode and scooted right over. Just missed me. Was probably a rock from the trucks duals. Close call.

    Why does stuff like that only happen when you're driving a new car?


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    fezofezo Member Posts: 10,384
    Been away long enough that I couldn't catch up with everything so here we go.

    Mike - you're probably out to dinner already. Hope you have the expandable waistband pants on because it sounds like that waist will be expanding.

    GG - sorry to hear about the detached retina. Take it easy tonight and be there first thing in the morning. A simple detachment is pretty easy to fix but if you wait it can get complicated and you definitely don't want to mess with that.

    I have to central vision in my left eye. My mom got exposed to toxoplasmosis while I was still in there. Have had many recurrences but through a combination of luck and good care I've held it more or less in check. I'll always have it but now am on an antibiotic I'll be on the rest of my life that the stuff can't act up. They had taken me off that for the transplant and used a substitute drug and the thing attacked my brain. Told me I had come 3 days short of buying the farm, At least it was my brain and not an organ I was actually using. Took over a year to recover. Way worse than my stroke.

    Boy, don't I sound in good shape? For the record I've never had a detached retina but have been around retina specialists long enough to hear lots of stories. The guy who finally came up with the antibiotic thing is a contagious diseases of the retina specialist. Should have had Sloan call him pre-transplant. He says under no circumstances am I to come off of that.

    Interestingly, I get a letter from him a couple of weeks ago. He is, for an indefinite time, taking his leave from University Of Pennsylvania to go where the real action is on contagious retinal disease is - Ethiopia! Don't know if he's with Doctors Without Borders but what a thing to do! I told him if I have a problem I have to get one of those corporate angels to fly me to Ethiopia.

    From many pages ago - stick, yeah my VW nightmare was on a 1980 model, yet VW consistently racks up the same issues in the same places even today. When I see 5 years of at least average reliability on them I'll think about it. They make some very enticing cars.
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    snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,328
    tyguy said:

    Edmunds did a nice job reviewing the new Volt:

    Good review, makes me want to consider one when the time comes to replace one of our cars.

    I might have seen a few of them returning from DC. We were on I-80 in northwest Ohio and was passed by a wrapped up car. You know like this:



    I was trying to figure out what it was and looking at pictures of the new Volt it might (I say might) have been one.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

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    berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I dated a French model back in my younger days. Oh La La

    So now we call you "Frenchy"?
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    fezofezo Member Posts: 10,384
    I still can't quite figure why a Volt. Love the idea but not much cargo room (or passenger room for that matter) and if you don't count those maybe 50 electric miles a Prius will outdo it. If you plan to leave it parked and plugged a lot and take small trips it makes sense I guess.

    My brother has one and loves it. He's a scientist and the technology fascinates him.
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    abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,258
    edited September 2015
    berri said:
    Those MD80's are so old but that's all American flies out of Palm Springs. Their DFW-FLL leg is on a 737/800 so it should be a smooth flight. The MD80 and it's variants 82/83/87 is a pretty durable aircraft. American, Northwest and TWA used a lot of them, as did Delta, which also ordered the engine and avionics updated MD90. Delta has bought most of Air Tran's B717 which is a modernized and better performing version of the MD90 to replace those older models. Those MD80's have a reputation as being a bit touchy in crosswinds due to the long, narrow fuselage. I'm sure the newer B737 will blow the older MD80's away in performance, while getting better fuel economy as well. But the same thing is true in cars over time. Now before the Seattle members on board hit us with the old "if it ain't Boeing, it ain't going", remember Boeing now owns the aircraft because it was part of McDonnell Douglas. I wasn't familiar with Palm Springs Airport, although I know American has had mainline trunk operations there for a long time. I looked it up and it has the typical desert required long runway. I imagine in peak desert heat those MD80 pilots need to spool the engine up quite a bit before taking off with a pretty long roll. Enjoy your son's visit Abacomike!
    Yes!  They take off in those MD83's with 3/4 flaps.  Once these jets hit 2500 feet in altitude, the updrafts from the desert floor create tremendous turbulence until they climb over 6000 feet.  That was always my favorite part of the flight out of Palm Springs.  Just imagine what it was like in a puddle jumper twin engine prop plane.

    But yes, they arrived on time and we just got back from having dinner out at NYY Steakhouse.  Food, as always, was superb in every conceivable way.  Service was exceptional.  It was so good we are going again tomorrow night.

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    snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,328
    berri said:

    Now before the Seattle members on board hit us with the old "if it ain't Boeing, it ain't going", remember Boeing now owns the aircraft because it was part of McDonnell Douglas.

    Remember Boeing moved their HQ to Chicago.

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    snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,328
    berri said:

    I dated a French model back in my younger days. Oh La La

    So now we call you "Frenchy"?

    No, she was French, I'm a Yankee.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,095
    berri said:

    Those MD80's are so old but that's all American flies out of Palm Springs. Their DFW-FLL leg is on a 737/800 so it should be a smooth flight.

    The MD80 and it's variants 82/83/87 is a pretty durable aircraft. American, Northwest and TWA used a lot of them, as did Delta, which also ordered the engine and avionics updated MD90. Delta has bought most of Air Tran's B717 which is a modernized and better performing version of the MD90 to replace those older models. Those MD80's have a reputation as being a bit touchy in crosswinds due to the long, narrow fuselage. I'm sure the newer B737 will blow the older MD80's away in performance, while getting better fuel economy as well.

    Back in the '70s and '80s Air Canada used a lot of DC-9s out of Halifax where I am based. One thing I remember hearing at the time was that they had a better power to weight ratio and and speed than the other aircraft in the fleet at the time and they could get up out of a short runway better than other aircraft because of that. I never particularly cared for flying on them because of the narrow fuselage and the 3-2 seat configuration they used in economy class. But if you sat up front away from the engines in the rear they were pretty good.

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Once again Charlie Brown goes to kick the football and once again Lucy moves it at the last minute.
    graphicguy said:

    driver100 said:

    Message to GG!

    So, the dealer isn't asking for their XTS back? Are they expecting you to come in one day and pick up your car? Have they stopped working on it?

    I took my car in yesterday for a complimentary wash, inside and out. When I picked it up last November I found they hadn't loaded the GPS. My sales guy said he would come to the house to do it. I said I was driving by their place the next day so I would just come in. He gave me the gift certificate for driving down there.

    After I got the car home I noticed a chip in the plastic bumper - once I got home. I don't think it was there before the wash, but, no proof either way. I took it in and they said it would be pretty well impossible they did it. I don't think it was hit or it would cover a larger area, about 3/4 in X 1/4 inch, black spot on a white bumper.

    It is pretty low to the ground so it was probably a stone chip. They sold me touch up paint for $28 and then they put it on....looks pretty good.

    It would have been nice if the dealer covered it, but, that would have been asking too much....I can't say who caused the damage. But, I was treated like a king...free full wash and always courteous service. Made me think about GGs experience - it's like the opposite.

    Audi too....only look at how they can get out of doing anything that might cost them a few $$$s


    Driver....They haven't said a word about giving the XTS back. That's quite different than their response earlier this year. Nothing new to report. Waiting on parts. This is the 5th straight week it's been in their service dept. Lawyer that it would be a pretty easy case. He said going further would cost more than just a few hundred dollars. However, he feels I have a very good case for a buy back.

    So, I have to decide to float a $1,500 retainer to the lawyer in the hopes he'll recoup those fees for me. Or, go it through the BBB in the belief they stick to the local Lemon Law rules (which in my case, Cadillac has broken many).

    Mike...hope you and your son have fun. You both deserve some.

    Lots of health issues flying around here. Went for an eye exam this a.m. because it seems I was seeing shadows out of the corner of my left eye that weren't there. Turns out, I have a detached retina. I guess it's bad enough that they wanted me to have surgery before I left their office. But, since I had eaten a power bar for breakfast and some coffee, I couldn't because of the anesthesia. So, first thing tomorrow morning it is. What a way to get Labor Day weekend started......
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    28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,392
    I have friends and soon-to-be family all who work for Boeing. As much as I make fun of McDonnell Douglas, they're the first to remind me that Boeing owns them...

    I fly Alaska for business primarily and Southwest for personal travel. Both are all-Boeing fleets. Does make me feel good for supporting the Seattle economy, but not the reason alone that I fly them. 
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    fezofezo Member Posts: 10,384
    Oy. Years ago it seemed like every plane I got in was a DC-9. Like a Greyhound bus with wings.

    Now the DC-10 was another matter altogether.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    I've gotten used to smaller regional planes lately. I don't fly much, but it has tended to be on the east coast, to smaller airports (Columbia, Piedmont, stuff like that).

    but going to Bermuda in 2 weeks. I think that might actually be a "real" plane for that trip!

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    abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,258
    28firefighter said:
    I have friends and soon-to-be family all who work for Boeing. As much as I make fun of McDonnell Douglas, they're the first to remind me that Boeing owns them...

    I fly Alaska for business primarily and Southwest for personal travel. Both are all-Boeing fleets. Does make me feel good for supporting the Seattle economy, but not the reason alone that I fly them. 
    When I lived in the Southern California Desert, I always flew Alaska Air out of Palm Springs during the hot summers to San Francisco and Seattle for 4 day weekends to "cool off" a bit.  Of all the airlines I have flown with, Alaska Air was the most on time, most comfortable and had outstanding crews.  Their fleet of jets were always well maintained and extraordinarily clean.  Great airline.

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    berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    edited September 2015
    The DC9 was a great plane for shorter hops. Only the small quantity of DC9-50 (a stretched version) was similar in size to the MD80. Most DC9's were -30 and a few early ones were smaller yet DC9-10's. I think there were some odd version DC9's built for several foreign carriers as well. They are all T Tails with rear engines that help quick lift in normal weather conditions. A B727 had three engines, a larger fuselage and greater range. I always felt the B727 was an amazing aircraft. They had no trouble taking off from places like New York LaGuardia, Washington Reagan or Chicago Midway. What killed it was the 3 pilot configuration, big improvements in B737 performance and the B757 (both were 2 pilot cockpits). On a hot summer day in the desert that DC9 is going to take some time lifting off unless it's fairly empty. Doesn't have the thrust of a B727, nor the wing setting flexibility. You want a muscle car equivalent, go for a B757 B) In the early passenger jet age, the old General Dynamics Convair 990 was the hot rod. It and it's 880 sister were 3-2 configuration jets, but they kind of guzzled fuel.

    As for DC10's, personally I'd take the L-1011 (preferably without the Rolls Royce engine option).
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    berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    edited September 2015
    Personally, I think Boeing jets give the best pilot feedback and Airbus the worst. The latter are too computerized which I think reduces feedback in operations. But Airbus does build a comfortable and safe plane, no argument there. More about a BMW v a Lexus in driver feedback.
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    suydamsuydam Member Posts: 4,676
    I don't know. The new Volt intrigues me. I'd like to try one out. 
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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,095
    berri said:

    Personally, I think Boeing jets give the best pilot feedback and Airbus the worst. The latter are too computerized which I think reduces feedback in operations. But Airbus does build a comfortable and safe plane, no argument there. More about a BMW v a Lexus in driver feedback.

    I really do not like flying in any Airbus aircraft I have been in. I'm sure they are fine but the computerization bothers me.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,095
    edited September 2015
    fezo said:

    Oy. Years ago it seemed like every plane I got in was a DC-9. Like a Greyhound bus with wings.

    Now the DC-10 was another matter altogether.

    I was only in a couple of DC-10s and the flights were fine, but that image from O'Hare was always in the back of my mind.

    I absolutely loved the L-1011. Maybe the best-looking aircraft of that era too.

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    fezofezo Member Posts: 10,384
    Was on an L-1011 once. Best plane I'd ever been on.
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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,362
    The Final Chapter(probably) of the Indianapolis Car Shopping Debacle...

    Remember the letter I sent to the "Business Development Manager" concerning the shoddy treatment we received? Well, I copied that email to the dealer's "Customer Care Representative"- and today I received the following email from her:

    Dear RB,

    I have been trying to get in contact with you. Are you still looking for a 2015 Mustang? My role here is Customer Service, not a salesperson, and would be honored to assist you.

    I am here to answer your questions and to schedule a personalized visit for you. Please allow me to assist you by calling me with any questions you may have or by providing me with another number to get in contact with you. If for some reason you have changed your mind or have purchased a vehicle from another dealership, please let me know as well so I can update your information in our database.

    As your Coordinator, it is my responsibility to ensure your vehicle purchase request is handled promptly according to our guidelines.

    Looking forward to your call!

    Sincerely,

    Xxxxx Xxxx
    Customer Care Representative


    I think that this dealership could not be any more dysfunctional if it tried...

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    I think a lot of this stuff is computer automated at this point. All the reminders from the salespeople, and notes like this. You were in, didn't buy, so after XX days the program spits out a "how ya doing?" email.

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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,434

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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,434
    Fresh granite installed tonight. Contractors coming to install backsplash & trim on Saturday. Plumber will hopefully come on Tuesday to install faucet, dishwasher, & garbage disposal.

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    carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,498
    edited September 2015
    GG, feel free to message me about any retinal detachment questions...Vitrectomy with placement of oil bubble vs. Buckle procedures. Been there, done that....no myopia (nearsightedness) or any other risk factors, just a spontaneous occurrence. Surgery is done under local anesthesia with conscious sedation. Don't delay, it can cost you your vision in that eye. Thanks to my retinal surgeon, I fully got my visual field deficit back.
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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited September 2015
    Did the oil for mine and now I have "fish eggs" when the silicon didn't absorb after the second fix. No biggie unless I'm looking down to weed or stargazing. Mine was a side effect from cataract surgery.

    Funny week, lots of buying questions at the end of the August and now there's a fresh blip with the US Labor Day sales coming up this weekend. Usually we stay home on holiday weekends since we can travel most any day, but I think we'll do a Sunday drive up to Hatch and buy some chilis.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    Bradd, looks nice. I could have you design out next kitchen. Love the sink, and the "plank" tiles.

    good choice on the colors. we did ours 4 years ago, and went with a wood tone. Looks nice, but wife has now decided (after being totally against it before) that we would go with white next time.

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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,434
    Thank-you. It is funny how tastes change & evolve. A few summers ago when we decided to start saving up for this, we thought we wanted cherry wood, then 2 years later started thinking about cream color, we both just love how timeless and modern a white kitchen looks so that's what we want for. We couldn't be happier.

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    nyccarguy said:


    Looks terrific, Bradd. You must be thrilled with out it's coming together. I imagine with your "connections" you'll be getting some nice plumbing fixtures :smile:
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    abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,258
    nyccarguy said:
    Thank-you. It is funny how tastes change & evolve. A few summers ago when we decided to start saving up for this, we thought we wanted cherry wood, then 2 years later started thinking about cream color, we both just love how timeless and modern a white kitchen looks so that's what we want for. We couldn't be happier.
    You mean to tell me that my 25 year old kitchen is "coming back into style?  White is "in"?  I guess if I wait (and live) long enough, my condo will be "retro" and command top $ once again.  Who knew?

    Bradd, enjoy the new "chuck wagon"!  Looks neat and clean!  All good thing come to those who have the money to pay for them - your plumbing must be spectacular!

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,671
    Hey tyguy, did you get those really neat silver staples in your knee? A woman at work had a partial knee replacement and it looked like she had collided with a chain link fence.

    Very stoic with a high pain tolerance she was out walking around within a week or two. Her doctors told her that it was the soft tissue that hurt not the new joint so if she could stand the pain she was good to go.

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    imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,154
    edited September 2015
    My wife's doctor and therapy staff are really up on technology. Her second knee replacement a year ago
    they did not use staples. They glued it. Also, the wound was zigzag with the zigs about 1/2 inch long.
    Looked like it was cut with giant pinking shears! That wound heals better than the straight cuts
    and pulls itself straight as it heals and leaves less scar showing.
    Indeed her recent knee shows less scar than the first.

    Partial knee work may be different. I tried to watch a video on youtube of a Stryker full knee replacement
    and couldn't do it. After the first real cuts. There's a reason I never wanted to become a doctor. LOL
    20 hours after surgery my wife walked rapid pace with a walker to the training room for therapy. They
    repeated bent her knee to 120+ degrees every few hours to keep the muscle cells from scarring and
    tightening up. I commented to the doctor a few hours later as she was being dismissed, that it won't be
    long before a knee is day surgery. He agreed. Bleeding and clots are their concern. In at 8, home for dinner.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,948
    snakeweasel said:

    tyguy said:

    Edmunds did a nice job reviewing the new Volt:

    Good review, makes me want to consider one when the time comes to replace one of our cars.

    I might have seen a few of them returning from DC. We were on I-80 in northwest Ohio and was passed by a wrapped up car. You know like this:



    I was trying to figure out what it was and looking at pictures of the new Volt it might (I say might) have been one.
    I had pics of the camouflaged Volt from last summer we saw in Death Valley that I posted around here somewhere. hmmmm... now where did I put those...

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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Over in Spotted a New....
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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,948
    Ah, found the link in the Spotted a New Car thread.

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    imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,154
    edited September 2015
    I wonder if some customizer has painted their own car in camouflage patterns
    like that with the removable plastic paints in use today? For a while there were
    cars at the cruise ins with mat finish paints.

    http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/04/spy-photo-camera-camo-explained-whats-with-the-swirlies.html

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    oldfarmer50 said:

    Hey tyguy, did you get those really neat silver staples in your knee? A woman at work had a partial knee replacement and it looked like she had collided with a chain link fence.

    Very stoic with a high pain tolerance she was out walking around within a week or two. Her doctors told her that it was the soft tissue that hurt not the new joint so if she could stand the pain she was good to go.

    Oh, yeah, there's a long zipper up the front side of my knee. I have a blood-free picture I can show but don't want to upset folks. The knee is a little swollen in the pic, but mostly it just shows a line of staples and pinched skin. Friends and family look at it and think "COOL!"....everyone but my dad who promptly ignored it :smile:
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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Now you'll start paying attention to everyone else's knees and you'll be amazed at all the telltale scars people have that you didn't recognize before.

    Kind of like buying a new car and then suddenly seeing the same model all over town.
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    verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,286
    imidazol97 said:


    After your trouble and some others on the net, I'm am officially nervous about
    this computer upgrading properly.

    Windows 10 has been installed in 67 Million machines (http://www.windowscentral.com/report-windows-10-now-installed-67-million-pcs.)

    It's good to be prepared and have a backup of your drive, but you shouldn't be nervous based on a couple of data points.
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    verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,286
    berri said:

    Those MD80's are so old but that's all American flies out of Palm Springs. Their DFW-FLL leg is on a 737/800 so it should be a smooth flight.

    The MD80 and it's variants 82/83/87 is a pretty durable aircraft. American, Northwest and TWA used a lot of them, as did Delta, which also ordered the engine and avionics updated MD90. Delta has bought most of Air Tran's B717 which is a modernized and better performing version of the MD90 to replace those older models. Those MD80's have a reputation as being a bit touchy in crosswinds due to the long, narrow fuselage. I'm sure the newer B737 will blow the older MD80's away in performance, while getting better fuel economy as well. But the same thing is true in cars over time. Now before the Seattle members on board hit us with the old "if it ain't Boeing, it ain't going", remember Boeing now owns the aircraft because it was part of McDonnell Douglas.

    I wasn't familiar with Palm Springs Airport, although I know American has had mainline trunk operations there for a long time. I looked it up and it has the typical desert required long runway. I imagine in peak desert heat those MD80 pilots need to spool the engine up quite a bit before taking off with a pretty long roll.

    Enjoy your son's visit Abacomike!

    I read an article today on Bloomberg that prices for used Boeing 717's have gone up in the past year due to a couple of airlines hoarding them (mainly Delta.) With the low fuel prices, they have become very attractive as replacement for 50-seater jets.
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    verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,286
    fezo said:

    I still can't quite figure why a Volt. Love the idea but not much cargo room (or passenger room for that matter) and if you don't count those maybe 50 electric miles a Prius will outdo it. If you plan to leave it parked and plugged a lot and take small trips it makes sense I guess.

    My brother has one and loves it. He's a scientist and the technology fascinates him.

    Our lease for the Ford C-Max is up in a couple of weeks. We're looking at the Volt 2. The 50 mile electric range would cover 90% of the regular driving we do. I'll post here once I have a sales story.
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    suydamsuydam Member Posts: 4,676
    Yes, do. I'm interested in your impressions.
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    verdugo said:

    fezo said:

    I still can't quite figure why a Volt. Love the idea but not much cargo room (or passenger room for that matter) and if you don't count those maybe 50 electric miles a Prius will outdo it. If you plan to leave it parked and plugged a lot and take small trips it makes sense I guess.

    My brother has one and loves it. He's a scientist and the technology fascinates him.

    Our lease for the Ford C-Max is up in a couple of weeks. We're looking at the Volt 2. The 50 mile electric range would cover 90% of the regular driving we do. I'll post here once I have a sales story.
    Fantastic! Please do keep us informed.
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    fezofezo Member Posts: 10,384
    Cmax to a Volt 2. That will be interesting indeed. Look forward to that.

    Man listening to tales of vitrectomies and knee replacements makes me feel like the good health guy in here.

    I'll feel better when we hear from GG again.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
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    imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,154
    tyguy said:

    Fantastic! Please do keep us informed.

    I want to wish you a good recovery from your knee replacement. I think I missed doing that.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Thanks imid! Appreciate the well wishes.
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