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  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,609
    I might have a problem! It depends on build quality, but I will be contemplting this! I believe Shipo will be eying this quite carefully also...hope HK import duties are reasonable!

    Funny how it took so long to get to this...Cerberus must keep this going, however, and make sure these new products do not fall apart!


  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,609
    This is the new G8 from a company called Pontiac, which is a company I can not remeber anymore...does not do anything for me in visual appeal. Very forgetable, IMO.


    Try something like this as a Firebird, please!


  • leikoleiko Posts: 4
    Hi,I spent seven hours looking at cars and test driving today,after hours online.And still don't feel positive about any.With gas prices soaring,the cost of any car getting excellent mileage have soared here in Middle Tennessee.The base Civic was $18,000 after $2,000. trade-in (otd),Elantra Limited $18,000,trade-in(otd),Sentra 1.8 $18,000,trade-in(otd),Versa at 14,500,trade-in(otd)and last Pontiac Vibe at $17,750(otd),Help and suggestions,please.
  • lonewaldenlonewalden Posts: 26
    I am having a similar dilima over a Honda Civic and a Elantra Limited. The Civic is a nice enough car no doubt, definately better than than alot of other cars from the competition. At this time im definately leaning towards to elantra.

    The Elantra Limited has alot more standard equipment that even a Civic LX. Leather interior, Alloy wheels, a roomier car, and a better radio to name a few. I would check the standard equipment at the price point between the cars you are looking at. Cruise was a must for my next car. I was given a better deal on the hyundai here, with a OTD price of roughly $17,000 (including the $1000 rebate). The strongest point for the civic of course is resale value.
  • scsnospamscsnospam Posts: 5
    My lease on a 2004 330i w/ automatic, premium package is up next month. I checked out the new 328i, but wasn't blown away. My options are

    1. Keep the 330i. On a 3 year plan, my payments will go up to ~ $680 (I'm currently paying $570 on my 15k, 36 month lease)
    2. Return the 330i, and lease the 328i. The 328i has 16 inch wheels vs 17" on the 330i, run flat tires vs regular tires, regular stereo vs HK Logic 7 on the 330i. It does have an ipod input though!

    What do think is the better option? I love driving my car, and feel it has enough power for me. Does the new 328i offer a similar experience? Same amount of torque at highway speeds?

    Financially, the 328i lease might work out to < $500 on a 12k, 36 month lease, in the SF Bay area, given what I have read on these forums.
  • twq83twq83 Posts: 19
    Go and drive a Lexus IS 350 ........ you'll never go back to BMW!!!! :shades:
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    If you decide to keep the car you in effect are paying more than you would have if you bought it outright to begin with.

    The 328 is where the old 330 was. If you want to keep the car for a few years you are better off financing the vehicle rather than leasing.

    If you want to lease and keep your payments the same, check out the lease rates on a 335. The 335 is not in any way similiar to the 330. You have to drive it to believe it.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    If you believe features and measurements are all that make the car, the Lexus is for you (with extra $ in the pocket to boot!)

    True enthusiasts have trouble considering a Lexus because there is not enough enthusiasm between the wheel and the road. Too numb, too "nannied," too Toyota.

    That's not necessarily my opinion, but a lot of people share it, and would disagree with your statement.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    For a different perspective the latest edmunds comparo between the 350 and 335 has more information. Edmunds outfitted the cars for sport, the Lexus cost more then the 335.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Wow... that's the first I've heard of that happening!
  • kmausskmauss Posts: 74
    Hello there! My boss is looking for a sedan that has heated AND cooled seats and parking assist. I'm not used to looking for vehicles quite that loaded. Anyone want to help me get some brownie points? :) (she hates car shopping and gave me her wish list) Many thanks! Karen
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656
    Also some people suggest that accords diesel will also be a V6.

    The word has been that the Accord diesel available for the 2009 model year will be 4 cyl. Honda is developing a V-6 diesel for it's truck line. No word from Honda on a V-6 diesel for the Accord.
  • lablover2lablover2 Posts: 106
    hi everyone, i have been trying to decide on a new vehicle-my short list was civic-accord and now element. i drove the civic and it seemed too small. next the accord-the driver seat was uncomfortable and i would have to leap up to the ex-L TO get a power seat. saw an element and decided to drive it-not as smooth of course as the silky accord but decent. the seat was wonderful and it would be a great car to have my 2 dogs in. all the dealer had was ex 4wds on the lot-i think the sunroof in the back is a waste and don't want the 4wd. more cost initially, probably more maintenance,lower gas mileage but higher resale later. i do live in the burbs of the windy city but being retired have the option of not going out in bad weather. anyway, i found a 2007 lx 2wd used with 5,000 miles on it and they want just under $18,000 for it, is that a decent price since it seems to be too new to get any used info on it.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I'd offer closer to $17,000. Maybe $17,200. Ending up in the mid-$17k range would be pretty good I think, if not a little high. I'm not real experienced with shopping the Element though, so take my words with a grain of salt.

    A new one would only be about $18,400 based on the limited reading I do in the Honda Element Prices Paid forums.
  • lablover2lablover2 Posts: 106
    thanks, i can't see the dealer taking less than that since her wants $595 to make it a honda certified car. he says i can buy it either way, with or w/o certification. problem is i like the color-kiwi green and you can't find 2wd in the windy city.
  • I am looking to replace a 2002 BMW 330xi. I like the G35x alot however I drove it yesterday and the steering is stiffer than my BMW.

    The problem is, I have issue with my hands (think carpal tunnel but different). Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows of a car that might have steering that requires less force than the G35 but with similar characteristics (size, price, performace, etc).

    For instance, does the Acura TL have the same stiff steering? Alternately, if I went to something like the Lexus RS350 would the handling be so sloppy that I would hate it?

    I just want to know what my options are and narrow down the field a bit.

  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,609
    I believe that active steering option on the 335i might add some help for you at low speeds where the effort might be less. But you will need to test it for yourself to see if it is good for you.

    Active Steering uses a supplemental, motor-driven gearbox to increase or decrease the amount of assist from the conventional hydraulic power-steering unit. The system is designed to add a level of responsiveness appropriate to the driving situation. In low-speed maneuvers, such as in parking garages, Active Steering "boosts" the ratio of standard power-steering assist, meaning the driver does not have to turn the wheel as much as usual.

  • solinsolin Posts: 12
    I would like some advice from anyone in the forum. There is a used 2006 with only 5000 miles on it and the party wants someone to take over the lease. The car has both premium and sports package plus lo-jack. His cost is $546 a month with about 15 months left on the lease with 12k per year allowed. The residual I believe is about $31,500.

    My question is, would I be better off buying a brand new 328i instead of this almost fully loaded 2006 330i?

    Thanks in advance.
  • rascal99rascal99 Posts: 54
    You may want to try the Audi A4. The low speed steering is remarkable light while it stiffens up nicely on the highway. The s-line package would give you pretty good handling as well.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,724
    That sounds like a decent deal, if you only want to drive it for 15 months and then turn it in...

    If you are interested in keeping the vehicle longer term, I'd lease or buy a new one.


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  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The last Acura I drove had steering that was very light (lighter than I prefer). It may be good for you.

    Try a TL and see.
  • stealth6stealth6 Posts: 13
    Jeffsstuff, Try a Sonata LX. If you want something more luxurious and bigger, try the Azera. You will be surprised! AO
  • kimandjaykimandjay Posts: 7

    We're new to this board, but are curious which car you'd recommend between the following:

    New 2007 Acura TL base model with Navigation package.
    A local dealership is currently offering us the advertised lease deal of $369 a month with $1999 down for 36 months with the Navi as a "free" add-on (i.e. current lease offer is as stated above without Navigation and they are including it for the same price).


    A family member is coming off a short-term lease on the 2006 325i. He has many of the upgrades, including the premium package, navigation with blue tooth, power seats, cold weather package, and a few others. He has only put 8500 miles on it (in 2 years) and the lease-end buyout is around $28,000. We can get financing of 5.99% on a $25,000 loan through a credit union and will put up the balance in cash.

    We plan to keep whichever car for about 3 years.

    The question isn't as much lease vs. buy as it is which would be considered a better deal, and which car do people prefer? Also, any idea what the resale might be on the BMW in 3 years (we will put a max of 8000 miles per year on it)?
    We test drove both today and my husband likes the sportyness and responsiveness of the BMW while I like the extra space in the TL. Note that we live in a city (DC) so parking can be difficult, which makes the size of the 325i more appealing.

    I know we'll be happy with either, but would appreciate any comments/suggestions.

    Thank you!
  • agnostoagnosto Posts: 205
    My suggestion is with neither one, go for a 2007 TCH (Toyota Camry Hybrid) and you are going to enjoy it so much, especially knowing that you will contribute for a greener environment ;) ...
  • kimandjaykimandjay Posts: 7
    Thank you. Appreciate your response.

    We don't drive much, as we live in the city and both walk to work. Thus, we end up putting only about 6000 miles a year on a car and a hybrid just isn't worth it for us financially.

    Also, we did test drive the V6 Camry and weren't thrilled with it. (Perhaps because we currently have a '95 Camry and can't help but compare it to that.)

    Anyone else have any comments? Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,724
    If you really want the BMW, then get the BMW..

    At first, I thought the Acura would be cheaper over the 3 years, as that is a decent lease deal, but if you are only putting 8K miles/yr on the BMW, you can likely drive it just as cheaply.. You'd be paying for miles you aren't using on the Acura..

    The only caveat? After 2 years, you'll be out of warranty and free service on the BMW. (Assuming it will be two years old when you get it).



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  • Hi! My daughter is looking for her first car. What is something that is a good car and has not been known to have many problems but is not expensive.

    It is going to be a used car but what would you give to your teen?

    I need a used car, low mileage, and very dependable, and cheaper parts if needed.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    A Civic or Corolla would be a good bet.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,609
    My suggestion is a Subaru. My second choice would be a Honda.

  • corkscrewcorkscrew Posts: 254
    My first choice is a 92 or 93 Acura Integra, second choice is a Civic.
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