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  • rustumrustum Posts: 100
    I bought 2010 LXP Sedan (4 Cyl).
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    Again, if you get the Accord with manual (video game easy to use, honest), it will get significantly better MPG than the Hyundai and drive much smoother on rough roads and the like.

    Hyundai Sonata 2.4L MT MPG (EPA): 24/35, 28 combined
    Honda Accord 2.4L MPG (EPA): 23/33, 27 combined

    As for the Accord driving smoother... that is not my experience, although the 2008-11 Accords have a smoother ride (and less-crisp steering) than previous generations.
  • cool_sdcool_sd Posts: 3
    Hi folks, I am planning to buy Nissan Altima, preferring it over Hyundai Sonata , my budget is 25k and would like to get the maximum features ......I am not liking Hyundai because of more wind noise in the freeway (only bad point) ........... I visited Nissan dealers and liked Nissan altima very much, nice smooth engine ...... Got out of the door price of fully loaded (all packages - backup camera, bluetooth ... except Navigation) Nissan Altima SL for 27500 .... I told dealer i will buy if he gives for 26200 ..... do you guys think I am making right choice by going for Nissan Altima SL and do you think this is the right price?
    Highly appreciate your response ..... I have no experience in buying cars
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 21,965
    choosing and buying the car you like best is definitely the right choice.

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • wik82wik82 Posts: 21

    I had initially agreed with you but after searching on as well as several other sites, I am finding that the used Sonatas and Optimas are doing very well on re-sale value. I was told that Civics, which ruled that class for something like 15 years, was just beaten out by Elantras in highest re-sale value!
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 801
    Consumer Reports rates the Altima higher than every other mid-size sedan, so I’d say it’s a very safe choice. As for pricing and getting the best deal, instead of ‘out the door’ price, the actual price before sales tax and any fees would be a more useful number to have. Also, where are you located (so I can see what incentives may be available)….let me know and I’ll tell you what I think! =)
    2015.5 Volvo S60 T6 Drive-E Platinum, 2012 Mazda CX-9 GT
  • cool_sdcool_sd Posts: 3
    Thanks igozoomzoom for the reply. I got the irresitable deal today and bought it.
    I had two options basically. I chose the second one. Thought that was a good deal. Got the additional bonus also as the car was already tinted.
    1. 26500 OTD price + Nissan financing (4.19% rate per my credit)
    2. 27750 OTD price + Nissan financing 0%, 60 months

    Here are the car details:
    Nissan Altima 2.5 SL
    MSRP as configured: $29,155
    Invoice as configured: $27,017

    Exterior: Super black
    Interior: Blonde leather
    Options: · [B10] SPLASH GUARDS (SGD)
    · [H01] 2.5S PREMIUM AUDIO PKG (AUD)
    · [K03] 2.5SL PKG (SLP)
    · [R10] REAR SPOILER (SPL)
    · [S10] FOG LIGHTS (FOG)
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,023
    edited May 2011
    You seem to have mistaken my statement for a question.

    While I appreciate you informing me that I am partially correct, I assure you that I am entirely correct, without the exception noted in your post.

    Hyundais are beginning to hold resale value very well, irrespective of the vehicle purchased.


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  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,251
    I did a search on and was able to find one. I would definitely recommend looking into this vehicle. The 2011 Cruze:
    • Is a compact car that offers the spaciousness
    and amenities of a midsize car.
    • Features segment-leading fuel economy.
    • Has segment-leading safety with 10 air bags, standard
    StabiliTrak and OnStar.
    • Is built to the highest quality and durability standards
    with testing done around the world.

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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,023
    That looks like a very nice, gently used vehicle. Very gently. However, it does lack a sunroof, which seemed to be an important feature to our consumer.


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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 21,233
    If you are looking for a new smaller car, I definitely suggest you drive the Cruze. There are several versions available. The roadholding performance would vary some--roughly look at the wheel diameter for the tires: the more aggressive cars have the larger rim sizes.

    I was just browsing the local dealer lot yesterday and they had some with sunroofs in stock. They actually had several Cruze's and two or three were the ECO model for even higher mileage.

    I suggest you forget the stereotypes that linger of which are the great cars and which are the ones that are problematic and drive them yourself. But drive the model with the tires and options you think you are interested in.

    As someone who had done critical distinction cross-shopping for many cars through the years, I must comment that the difference of an EPA gas mileage rating that varies by 2-3 mpg is probably insignificant in the real world. Also, a car that gets 36 mpg versus one getting 39 while cruzing on the highway isn't going to cost much more. In town mileage if you are in a suburban or urban area is more meaningful. When you test drive any car, set the digital fuel economy gauge so you can use you gut feeling of how it does relative to the driving style and particular road patterns you test drove.

    Furthermore, if a car gets allegedly 3 more miles per gallon at highway cruising speed (50 mph) does it get 3 more miles per gallon at 70-75 than the other car? Also does a car that may get better mileage need a larger fuel tank? No, the tank size is somewhat irrelevant unless there are few gas stations in the area you are living or planning to travel. Carrying more gallons of fuel in stop and go driving lowers the mileage.

    Good luck in your search.

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,023
    Have you held off on a car purchase because you're waiting for a better deal? Or did you go ahead and buy because you assume car prices could just rise even further this summer? An Associated Press reporter would like to talk with you. Please send your contact information to Aaron Lewis at


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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 63,124
    I'm pretty impressed with the Cruze.. It's hard to believe that it is the replacement for the Cobalt.. A very nice looking sedan, as well..


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  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,251
    I noticed that it did not have a sunroof; however, it was the only Cruze in the country that I could find. This is most likely due to the fact that the vehicle is new to the market. I hope the information was helpful. Depending on when the customer actually purchases they could continue to check the web site for updates.
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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,023
    Totally understandable - waiting awhile is likely to help with available inventory. Since it's so new, I'd actually recommend purchasing the Cruze new instead of used anyway.


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  • wik82wik82 Posts: 21
    I went for a test drive in an Altima Monday. Very very nice. I didn't notice any of the CVT transmission issues that people have been bringing up. It had nice power but I felt the handling was a bit more sensitive than the others I had tried. I tried going to Taylor Kia, my local Kia dealership, stood around for 20 minutes waiting to get help, wasn't even acknowledged and left, went down to the Nissan dealer and had great service. I would say at this point, Sonata, Altima, Accord and Optima are the top 4, roughly in that order.

    I plan on going to take a test drive for a Cruze tomorrow. I had kind of passed on it but with the good reviews and comments I have seen here, I think I should at least try it before writing it off.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,023
    So far, you've got 4 good choices. I can't see you going wrong with any of them, as long as you are OK with the CVT. Some people love it, some hate it, and some have transmissions that are just plain broken. If you've driven the Altima and it's fine, that question is answered for you.

    Good for you on the Cruze - I think it would be a mistake to skip it. It may not be right for you, but you do seem to get a lot of features for the cost.


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  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,878
    I haven't driven one, but I sat in the Cruze at the local car show and was pleasantly surprised. Good room (I'm 6'2") and the materials were very much competitive. I agree with kyfdx that its a handsome car. It is worth a look.

    I like the idea of the Eco with the stick.

    15.5 XC70 T6 / 16 Soul EV / 17 Toyota 86

  • sbaosbao Posts: 1
    These three models have some decent incentives this month.

    Could anybody share your preference and driving experience?

    Or input some pons anc cons? Thank you so much!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    One great thing about the Cruze is that if you can live with the LS, you can get a great deal on one, at least in my part of the country (Twin Cities). I've seen base models with sticks priced at around $14k and automatics for around $15k. Very hard to beat that in these days of limited car supplies and high gas prices. And even the base LS is very nicely trimmed inside and has all the safety equipment and other basic equipment.... EXCEPT cruise control and (I think) power mirrors. But if you can live w/o those you can buy a very nice small car for a good price.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    I prefer in this order:

    Ford Fusion - great blend of ride and handling.
    Nissan Altima - Best styling of the 3, good handling but ride not as smooth/quiet as the Fusion's.
    Chevy Malibu - relatively narrow back seat; I don't like the dash except on the LTZ, which is pricey; Fusion has better ride/handling balance.

    You've driven all 3, right? If not, you have your mission for the Memorial Day weekend! :)
  • wik82wik82 Posts: 21
    Went for a drive in the Cruze. It was was a nice little car. I don't think it is what I am looking for though. It had nice handling. The suspension seemed VERY nice, probably the most superb thing about the car.

    It was a very smooth ride (and the area we drove in was a mix of well paved and god-awful pot-holed gravel areas). Once your at cruise speed (no pun intended) it runs well, isn't loud at all.

    The low end, both breaking and accelerating was what turned me off. I could REALLY feel the car shifting (had the automatic 1.4 turbo BTW). It was almost herky-jerky. Obviously the car isn't made for "0-60" times, but the lower acceleration felt sluggish due to the shifting and slowing down also was the same. I was impressed with the room that the driver and passenger was afforded but I question if anyone above 5'6 could fit in the back with comfort. The trunk was nice and it offers the rear fold down seats.

    Overall, if I had to list, in order the cars I have liked the most in test drives thus far I would say:

    1. Sonata
    2. Altima
    3. Accord
    4. Optima
    5. Cruze

    This isn't a knock on the Cruze. I rather enjoyed it. But I am trying to move up to a larger car and while it makes great use of its available space, I think the others would better serve me.

    Just found out I can't lease due to my credit. So my hopes of having a new car are dashed. I guess that makes the Altima and Accord the most available options. The Kia service is non-existent here which means I would have better luck with a Cruze than an Optima lol. I like the 2011 Optima but the 2011 Sonata is the car that has really stole the show for me. I just have to hope to find a used one for a good price...if not I guess it's a '07-'10 Altima....
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    The Cruze is great. If you get one with manual, like they design it for in Europe. When *you* select the gears, it's a joy to drive and at least 20-30% faster in traffic.

    Note - the Altima, Accord, and Sonata are exactly the same. Get the manual if you care even a little bit about driving dynamics.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    Note - the Altima, Accord, and Sonata are exactly the same.

    I strongly disagree. Major differences in ride, handling, interior room, etc. Also the MT is available only on lowest trim level of the Sonata.
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,251
    I am unsure what specific vehicles you are considering; however, GM web sites have a Live Chat option. These agents are able to assist with incentives, options and features and their availibility, or locating a dealer or a specifc vehicle. I would definitely recommend utilizing this tool. If you have other questions for me feel free to address me specifically. Have a great weekend!
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  • wik82wik82 Posts: 21
    I do have to say, I felt that the Altima was more..."squirrley", for lack of a better word, than the Sonata and Accords. Not in a bad way, just a difference in handing. All of them felt pretty smooth to me, although I did not get a chance to drive over nasty roads in them to the extent that I did with the Cruze....
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    I strongly disagree. Major differences in ride, handling, interior room, etc. Also the MT is available only on lowest trim level of the Sonata.

    I was obviously talking about them all having the same advantage in terms of handling and drive-ability in traffic. That the Sonata only comes in the base trim with manual is a major negative against it, then.

    It's especially drastic in the Altima. The CVT is a miserable joke in actual traffic where you essentially have to operate the throttle like a toggle switch and ram it to the floor to do a quick bit of acceleration (good luck with MPG at that point). The manual is perfect by comparison. Guess what 90%+ of the rest of the world buys?

    And on most of them, having instant access to your best torque range, with a little planning of course, makes the 4 cylinder models operate about as quickly as the 6 cylinder ones. In the Accord, the 4 with manual drives nearly identical to the 6 with automatic due to the gearing ratios. Sure, 0-60 times might be better for the 6, but that's a small part of the story,
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    I had no idea what you meant, it was a pretty general comment.

    I've found the CVT in the Altima to drive just fine in normal conditions. I ram the accelerator to the floor about, oh, once a year if that. More than enough power in even my 140 hp Sentra (with CVT) to not have to ram it to the floor. I often wonder how people drive, who talk about having to push the pedal to the floor a lot.

    As far as what the rest of the world buys in the Altima (stick vs. CVT), I was not aware that the Altima was a big hit outside the U.S. I always thought it was tailored to the U.S. market. Folks in most other countries prefer smaller cars. And yes, manuals are more popular in other countries. They are a better match for the relatively small engines used in cars outside the U.S. I wonder how many cars overseas get 2.5L, 175 hp I4s? Not many I would expect. Certainly not V6s.
  • wik82wik82 Posts: 21
    Just a general question here guys. In the case of 2 cars I had previously been considering, I saw one of each, a 3-series BMW and a Lexus IS250. The Lexus is on a dealer's lot, the 3-series is privately being sold.

    Both have been crashed. The Lexus carfax has 29 different records. I have not purchased the carfax, just typed the Vin # in and got the preliminary report thing. It looks like a gem. Completely restored. Great price for the vehicle, obviously because of the past history.

    Basically, the same with the 3-series. I texted the seller and he said the only reason he hadn't sold it was because it was a rebuilt title. I am assuming the two cases are similar, although I don't know if the Lexus is a "rebuilt title". I don't know exactly what qualifies as that. That being said, how can you verify and trust something like this? Can you at all?!

    Finding out that I am basically ONLY going to be able to go used now (no lease options due to no co-signer) I had gone back and thought about these as, for example, the 3-series has about 40k miles and is perfectly re-built (as far as I can see) for 13,900. Of course it begs the question of "Why does the owner want to sell it if it is fine". Is there a way to take it in somewhere and have it inspected or is that at the dealership/seller's discretion?

    Anyhow, I have never looked into this and never dealt with it. So can anyone comment on this? Info/experience and knowledge is appreciated!
  • wik82wik82 Posts: 21
    Did this post die on me or people just busy with the holiday?!
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