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  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,440
    Yes I forgot, but a few of the Chrysler 300's came in AWD.

    boomchek: driven 10,000+ cars, sold 1000+ cars, owned 50+ cars

  • kreuzerkreuzer Posts: 131
    edited March 2013
    I'm looking for a small used truck, reg. cab, 2wd, auto, A/C and my price range would be no more than $6000. Some things I do know that I don't want are the following: chevy s10 4cyl models (tested a couple out and the truck can't get out of it's own way), no manual shift, the lower the mileage the better, that's about it.
    I know toyotas are very good but they want a lot of $$ even when they have close to 200,000mi. on them. I'm considering all brands with the exception of the s10 4cyl. I would consider the s10 with the 4.3 v6.
    All suggestions welcomed. Thanks!
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,241
    I'd stay away from any of the GM options...S-10 or Colorado/Canyon. You're looking at a very old vehicle with the S-10 and the Canyon/Colorado is garbage from all my experience. So there's not much to pick from once you eliminate the Toyota...and there's usually a reason they command the money. So I guess Ford Ranger is about it. Good luck finding a 2wd V6 Ranger that's not been beat to death...they're famous as fleet vehicles.
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,036
    Nissan Frontier? Extremely basic so maybe cheaper.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    Stick with front wheel drive. Make life easier on yourself. Snow tires are another expense you don't need if you get Front wheel drive

    This is simply not true. While you can muddle along at slower speeds without snow tires or chains with a front wheel drive car, you will in no way come close to the performance that you'll get with any car with snow tires. It's exactly like wearing a pair of Converse high-tops to do hiking. Regular tires are simply the wrong tool for the job.

    In fact, snow tires will even beat an all wheel drive car with all-seasons on it.
    Comparisons of different tire types
    4WD and normal tires vs RWD and snow tires. The "trick" that everyone in Europe uses is that they have snow tires on all of those German cars which are RWD. Only in the U.S. do we see people who simply ignore reality and figure that they can make due with normal tires wherever they go.
    Subaru with all-season tires vs a Mini with snow tires.

    When they say "prepare your car for winter" they mean swap the tires and rims when it's going to start snowing. Most people should keep a separate set of winter tires to swap out in their garage. It's a larger initial cost, but given that the each set are only getting used for half the year, it's no more expensive in the long-run.

    Or, you can end up on Youtube like this. Your choice:
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,036
    I have lived in Ohio for 30 years and have had front wheel drive for every car but one, and my daughter made it thru 4 years in Beloit ( 1 hour from Chicago) with a Toyota Camry. We've done fine. The majority of cars in the east are front wheel drive because people like them and they get good fuel economy. That said, if the poster wants a Rwd car I would recommend what he/she wants. My impression was the leaning was towards a fwd vehicle with good mileage. Hence I am simply pointing out that that is perfectly doable on Chicago.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 4,292
    Useful stuff. Thanks!!
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2018 Honda CR-V EX AWD (wife's)
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    edited March 2013

    Summer tires actually turn hard at temperatures below 45F. (ouch - that's 1/3 of the year, even in California!) All-seasons are a bit better and are good down to 0C. But beyond that, they are essentially as dangerous as summer tires. It got down to 28 degrees a month ago. And I'm in Los Angeles. All-seasons sort of work in a pinch if there's no snow or if it's cold and the roads are perfectly dry (since the road friction will warm them up just enough after a few minutes), but if there's actual snow or ice, it's way too cold even for "all-seasons".

    Note - they really should be called "three season" tires. Winter is simply not their place.
    Watch the little embedded video. It's not the snow that's the real problem so much as the winter tires stay soft enough down to about -20F. Below that, of course, you really do need chains or studded tires.

    Of course, the opposite is true as well. Above 45F, winter tires are basically racing tires and wear incredibly quickly. So most people use all-seasons in the spring through fall and then switch to winter tires when the first snow comes.

    Note - if you have a truck and are running Mud Terrains on it, they are essentially snow tires compound-wise. Which is why you typically get 30K out of a set. This is why a lot of SUVs also end up in the ditch. All-terrains are the same rubber as all-season tires. And while they will work a bit better due to bigger treads, the tread blocks also get rock-hard when it's below freezing. This is why you see all serious off-roaders just running with MTs on all year round and dealing with the need to swap their tires every other year. They aren't as good as dedicated studded snow tires (tend to pack with snow quickly), but at least won't get hard when it gets below freezing.
  • if mostly big city, and cheap little car. EV are nice but pricey, and have not been proven. I hate plug in's.
    Escape is self generating (good idea) but once your USA govt starts cut backs on incentives, look out.
    Or maybe a bicycle.
  • kreuzerkreuzer Posts: 131
    I appreciate both of you replying with opinions/suggestions. I haven't any experience with the ranger 4cyl. and may try them out. Hopefully, they have more grunt than the s10's I've tried!

    One more question: Would it be wiser to buy a Toyota with 170,000mi compared to a domestic truck with 100,000mi?

    Thanks again for any replies!
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,241
    I think given the age of truck you're they were cared for will make a big difference. A very well cared for Ranger with 100k miles would win out over a beaten Tacoma with 170k miles in my book. All the 4cyl trucks are pretty weak...I'd look for a V6 regardless of make.
  • kreuzerkreuzer Posts: 131
    Ok, I would agree with you on how the truck was used and cared for. I guess my best bet would be to find a one owner and if it had past maintenance performed routinely. I wouldn't necessarily need a 6cyl. if I new the 4cyl. would be reliable and pulls better than the s10 trucks I've tried.
    Thanks again for your reply. :)
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 25,736
    Is mileage a concern? You didn't specify, although you did say the 4.3 chevy would be considered, so I guess not.

    Personally, I'm a big fan of the Dodge Dakota. While not as compact as the others, I consider that an advantage. And, heck, if mileage is not a factor, it was offered with a v8. I've seen decent low-miles examples for darned cheap.

    '18 BMW 330xi; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 47-car history and counting!

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  • kreuzerkreuzer Posts: 131
    gbrozen, appreciate your suggestion. I have considered the dakota but probably would stay away from the v8 option. Fuel mileage is a bit of a concern and would like to keep it to 4 and 6 cyl.'s. I've owned an "88 toyota pickup with the 4cyl. and could easily live with it's power. I never had any experience with the domestic brands 4 cyl. except here recently with the S10 2.2l. Do you know if the Ranger is as doggy as the the S10?

    Toyotas come at such a high premium that I've started looking at the domestics, but also want reliable transportation. I have also ben looking at the Nissan Frontiers.
  • Hey all,
    Ive been driving myself crazy trying to find that perfect car. Maybe someone here can help me out. Here are my needs for a used car.

    -I need cargo area at least the size of my 4th gen maxima for my business (15 cubic feet I think)
    -I want to spend under $16k (I may be able to stretch it a little)
    -Comfortable seats that can accomodate a taller person like myself (6"2 with lower back herniation)
    -somewhat quick, at least as fast as my current car (something in the high 14's low 15's)
    -Id prefer not to have a car that uses premium, maybe even somewhat efficient with gas (28mpg or higher on highway and at least 20 city)
    -I dont want a boat of a car that cant maneuver or park easily.
    -somewhat quiet cabin.

    Can be a regular car, econobox, hatchback, or smaller suv, even a coupe(I doubt this will work).
    Can be japanese or domestic (no germans or swedes)

    Thanks in advance all
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,241
    Maybe tell us what you've ruled out so far....and why? There are so many possibilities at this point. Also, I assume you've looked at newer Maximas? Altima V6?
  • The newest generation maximas are out of my price point (I would love it).
    A few cars I have looked into.
    -Honda accord 2009 v6 (Heard a lot of complaints about this generations seats being uncomfortable along with many complaining about rear brake problems)
    -2011 sonata looked good, but people have said the seats aren't the most comfortable along with the car starts falling apart fairly quick (loud road noise, and lots of interior cabin noise).
    -2010 subaru legacy 2.5i (too slow)
    -Altima v-6 uses premium fuel and doesn't get the best mileage.
    -Ford fusion v6 2010 (Tranny problems)
    -Ford Focus 2012 hatchback (not reliable, and not sure about comfort)
    -Acura tsx 2006 (takes premium fuel but get decent mileage to offset it, kind of old and outdated at this point)
    -2013 Altima 2.5 - great seats and nice quiet cabin, muted driving experience along with lots of complaints with the 2.5 already.
    -Mazda 6 2010 v6 - fairly bad mileage
    -Nissan Juke - loved everything about the car except the seats when I test drove it

    Cars I need to check out in person include
    -2009 Toyota rav 4 v6
    -2010 Toyota Camry v6 (Ive heard this is quite an uninspiring car)
    -2011 Sonata just to double check it
    -2010 Mazda 6 2.5 4 cylinder maybe its not so slow
    -2010 mazda 3 hatchback while im trying mazda's
    I think thats it, as you can see I'm all over the place
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,241
    Yeah that's all over the place. Seat comfort is very subjective....I wouldn't take others comments too seriously. You really just need to spend some seat time and see what you think. I've found anything that's more upright like the SUV's is more comfortable and easy in/out. There RAV4 might be a decent option for you...but when you say the Altima V6 gets bad gas mileage....the RAV4 will be worse and slower to boot.

    You might also confirm the Altima "requires" premium fuel before ruling it out. I have a coworker with an '07 and absolutely loves it with over 150k miles. Very quick and comfortable. Most later Nissans (i have an '08 Pathfinder) state "premium fuel recommended for maximum performance". I run premium when towing...and can tell a difference under heavy load but generally I have run regular gas for 90k miles with no complaints.
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,036
    I would take a serious look at the Altima of 2009 or 2010. Very comfortable and in my opinion more of a drivers car than the current Altima. Regular fuel, extremely reliable. They are very popular cars. I speak as a Maxima owner myself. I'm looking at a new car and don't want premium fuel either. The new Altima seems bigger and somewhat more floaty to me than the last version. I have several friends who have the 2010 version and it is really nice. That would fit your price range too. The V6 will be quieter than the 4 cyl.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
  • From the research I've done it looks like if you dont use premium fuel your mileage and fuel economy will suffer. I will look more into them though. Nissan has been great to me.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 25,736
    edited March 2013
    I'm really not much of a truck person. I'd have to think, however, saddling one with a 4-cyl and auto trans is going to make it a dog no matter the brand.

    Just comparing in my area, though, I can see there are more Dakotas than anything else and they are by far nicer for the money. Here are just a few examples.

    This one even has 4 doors

    Extended cab and 4x4

    Standard cab '03

    For comparison, an '01 Chevy 4-cyl.

    '18 BMW 330xi; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 47-car history and counting!

  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    Myself and my friends have owned pretty much every truck and SUV of note that's capable of off-road use or for work (as opposed to yuppie "soft-roaders").

    The best two for work are the Chevy/GMC 1500 and the F150 (who would have guessed - heh )

    Other than that, though, it comes down to one choice. Get a Toyota with the 3RZ engine in it. Get it with manual. The automatic is terrible but the older Toyota manuals are bulletproof. Mine lasted 280K miles before I had to get it replaced. And not a minute of that was anyone giving it any love, either. The truck is still running around somewhere in N. Cal I think with about 350K on it (sold it at almost 325K on it two years ago).
    Nothing else works like it does in terms of low cost to maintain and the durability overall. There are several vehicles that used it, so you have a good range of years and models to look at. The newer TR and ZR 2.7L engines are also good, but they lack the tractor simplicity of the RZ.

    And, yes, manual with short gearing and 160HP will out-accelerate most yuppic-mobiles unless they floor it. I found it to be extremely enjoyable to drive, even in So Cal traffic as I'd just leave it in 2nd or 3rd gear and trundle along in heavy traffic. And then when I had to dodge into a gap in traffic, I was already in the right gear.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    That's a tough order. One car came to mind, though, and that was the Pontiac G8. GM did a horrible job of marketing it, but it was the best selling car in Australia at the time. Quality is/was excellent and it's a good mid-sized sedan. Of note, though, is the fact that it is rear wheel drive so it turns and parks like a whole size smaller FWD car.

    The problem is finding one as most people who have one simply aren't interested in selling theirs.

    The only real downside is the fuel economy. It gets about 25mpg highway. But other than the issue of MPG, it's probably the best solution that I can work out since you won't want a European car. It does use normal 87 octane fuel, though, so that's worth about 2mpg right there vs a higher mpg car that requires premium.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 25,736
    edited March 2013
    well, he specified auto trans. So how does the Toyota stack up with that in mind?

    Hell, I still think the 22RE engine with manual trans was the most bulletproof setup ... but good luck finding that with low miles and no rust. :(

    EDIT: I just looked it up. Even an '02 Tacoma 2wd reg cab with 100k miles is going to be well over the OP's budget.

    '18 BMW 330xi; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 47-car history and counting!

  • duransdurans Posts: 1
    I, too am looking to buy something different. I do not like driving what everyone else has. I had an appointment to test drive a Maserati Quattroporte Sport GT this weekend and sell my BMW. Was very serious about it, then I talked to my insurance agent and the insurance rates on the Maserati made me cancel everything! I LOVED my Jaguar S-Type R. 'She' did save me and daughter's life, we were hit by a drunk driver at 50+mph and 'she' held tough. I do not like the XF can't get over how it looks like a Chrysler in the front and Toyota in the back. :-( Can't seem to get too excited about the F-Type coming out this fall. When I say I prefer 'foreign' I mean European. I truly have looked and looked and I can't seem to get too excited about much. I am looking for something that when I go out into my garage I have a smile on my face. I like the look of a sedan. Two or Four door does not matter. I only buy used and don't mind the year, but would prefer that it look very close to it's newer counterpart. I'm not asking for much, right? LOL Would LOVE to hear everyone's opinions and perhaps check out cars I've overlooked. Much Thanks to everyone and I, in advance would like to Thank You for your time and input.
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,440
    I worked at a Maserati dealer and the QP is indeed a nice car to drive, but servicing can get constly because these are very temperamental cars.

    How much were you looking to spend?

    boomchek: driven 10,000+ cars, sold 1000+ cars, owned 50+ cars

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 25,736
    edited March 2013
    what year was the maser? I would only consider one with the ZF auto trans, which was optional in '07 and standard since '08. I'm waiting for one of these to get down into my pricerange.

    Peronally, I love the looks of the XF.

    pricerange would definitely be helpful in this situation.

    '18 BMW 330xi; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 47-car history and counting!

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  • brendab1brendab1 Posts: 1
    I'm looking for a new, full-size 4-door sedan for my father. The biggest concern is that he has had both a hip and knee replacement and needs extra room for his knee. In other words, in the Toyota Camry that he currently has, his right knee always bumps into the middle console. He used to have a Chevy Tahoe and loved the leg room, but for other reasons, he needs a sedan instead of an SUV, but one that has maximum room for the right knee.

    $40,000 is the maximum he can spend, but he'd prefer something less expensive.

    Does anyone have any suggestions?
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