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Nissan 350Z



  • zzz350zzz350 Posts: 44
    I'll ask again, can you use synthetic engine oil in the 350Z (see post #1592)?
  • dklaneckydklanecky Posts: 559
    The 3.0-3.5 liter Nissan engine(s) is capable of using synthetic oil. I've used full synthetic in both my Maxima's and my Murano with no ill effects of any kind. I use it because I drive my vehicles literally until they die (or get totaled) and I use Mobile One 10w-30 full synthetic in the older VQ's and 5w-30 in the newer VQ's.

    I can't find any reference in the 03 350Z owner's manual that says you can't use it. Where did you get the idea you shouldn't use it?

    I would wait until about 10,000 miles, before I'd change over to full synthetic just to ensure the engine is completely broken in and ready to really run hard.

    Some people think you can change earlier than that but I've had excellent results waiting until 10k to switch over. I then go with filter and oil change every 5,000 miles.
  • zzz350zzz350 Posts: 44
    I get out my owner's manual and get the reference page that I thought I saw the info. on.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,055
    for the continuing discussion of synthetic oil.

    I recently bought a Pathfinder with the same engine and use synthetic in my other vehicle. If there's a real reason not to use synthetic in the PF, I'd like to hear it.

    I ran a Datsun 240Z 224K miles on dino oil, so am perfectly happy to go either way.

    Just seems the synthetic ought to give better protection.
  • zzz350zzz350 Posts: 44
    I misread the manual, it stated not to use any "oil additives", it makes no mention of not using synthetics.

    My first mistake, I'm going to go kill myself.
  • bigmo24bigmo24 Posts: 3
    Well that's a little disheartening. Does everyone else agree that I would need a second car?...even with snow tires it's difficult to drive? I definitely can't afford two cars.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,055
    is a strong word.

    I drove both an MGB and a Datsun 240Z in Edmonton, Alberta, through several winters and had no trouble. I'm sure the 350Z can do everything my 240 did, only better.

    Don't believe everything the front-wheel drive and/or AWD people (I nearly wrote another word that starts with p and has a couple of s's later, but thought better of it) tell you.

    People were driving RWD cars (some of which had a lot of power and none of the traction control or yaw control goodies) for decades before FWD was ever thought about.

    Today's winter tires all around help a lot as well. The BMW troops do just fine in the winter, but universally recommend Alpins or the equivalent. Put four good winter tires on a set of dedicated steel wheels and you'll be all set.

    Get the thing and enjoy it, but you gotta be careful in winter weather.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,595
    There are those of us on the boards, including me, who believe that driving in snow is about 50% driver skill and 25% car and 25% tires. This doesn't mean that if you are a great snow driver it becomes magically "easy", but only that you can do it safely, especially with really good snows on all wheels.

    If the snow gets so deep that it starts hanging up sports cars, it's probably a good day not to drive anyway, no matter what you have.

    Many of us who are over 50 did very well thank you living in severe climates driving RWD cars, before FWD and AWD were popular. And with today's traction control and superior tires, I would think you'd even have it easier than we did.

    But you gotta believe you can or you won't feel very comfortable.

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  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    I live near Boston and (as a native of Chicago area) we get lots more snow than you do ... not as much cold, but lots of snow. I've driven rwd sports cars year round in both of these climates. Currently I have a rear engine car with really wide tires in the back -- when we're approaching danger conditions for the roads (like when schools are being cancelled) what I do is rent a Focus from a Ford dealer about a mile from my place ... costs me $42 for the day. In the last years I've still only averaged +/- 10 days/yr .... so for $420/yr. I have alternate transportation for the 10 days I would be risking my car, or other people. This is less than it would cost, by the way, to insure a second car, even a beater. If I was near mass transit I could do it for $10/yr! JW
  • zzz350zzz350 Posts: 44
    Being that driving in snow is such a dominant issue, please HOST, do you job and redirect this discussion to a new spot. I live in California and only see snow on the Weather Channel.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,055
    you want this topic to go completely dead, instead of just mostly dormant.
  • nissan350znissan350z Posts: 81
    I would just get the car of your dreams and try to work around the snow time thing. I live in NJ and it snows here too. I'll just get Bridgestone snow tires with sand bags in the back. And if it's that bad I'll take my wife Nissan Xterra to work. Why not get the car of your dreams just because of a few days of the year it doesn't drive well out of 365.

    P.S. I know the snow issue is silly to talk about in spring, but at least people are talking here again!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,595
    We try not to be geo-centric, even though Edmunds lives in California!~

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  • foolsbrainfoolsbrain Posts: 7
    I have been driving the 350z in snow for the past 2 winters. With Bridgestone snow tires, I did not have any problem as long as the car clearance can clear the snow. That is 4 inches or so.
  • I know that nissan is changing its 3.5 engine to a 4.0 in the 2005 Pathfinder, xterra, and frontier. Does anybody has any info if the new engine will make to to the Z.
  • I would surely like to see a 400Z in the future, it would certainly give this car a much welcome increase in horsepower. Perhaps in the 320hp vicinity.
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836
    Nissan should seriously consider bringing the Skyline GTR to the US. That is one awesome car and will roast the 350Z in any comparison test. If you live on the west coast, it is possible to special order one; I have seen one or two in Rodeo Drive, but the price is like 90 grand. Why are Americans being denied such a great car. It is available in the UK and Australia!!!
  • nissan350znissan350z Posts: 81
    As much as the Nissan Skyline GTR should be here. This isn't as much of a market for these cars anymore. The Toyota Supra is example of one. They are both great cars, but not many people pay top dollars for a Toyota or Nissan like they would for a Lexus, Lotus, or Ferrari. The new 350Z is a much more marketable car which is why we have them here again.
  • jaquinojaquino Posts: 90
    Just not as a Nissan, but as an Infiniti.

    Nissan will be bringing it over in 2007, read article from MotorTrend:

    The GT-R will be Nissan's Global SuperCar... it won't be much of a "global" supercar if the USA (the world's biggest car market) is excluded.

    It will probably be marketed under the Infiniti brand name.

    Sure, people are not going to fork over $50k-$60k for a Nissan, but they won't have a problem if it is an Infiniti.
  • earlfargisearlfargis Posts: 16
    If this can be believed -- -- there's a 305HP anniversary Z due in '05. Yellow will be offered as a color choice and possibly some other colors. No pricing is available.

    The HP boost is welcome but practically isn't much to get excited about. It may be some added spice to bump up sagging sales a notch but, IMHO, the best way to do that is fix the nagging quality control problems the Z is experiencing.
  • rjgcparjgcpa Posts: 11
    I recently purchased a 2004 Z. I also purchased a Nissan extended warranty. I know the dealer marks these up. Can anyone tell me whether $1,360 is reasonable for a 7 year 70,000 mile coverage?
  • scantyscanty Posts: 171
    The new Road & Track has a picture and blurb about the '07 GTR. It's coming here. Suspension and steering tuning have been outsourced to Lotus (test mules are regular sightings around Hethel) and engine work is being done by Cosworth. They are expecting 450 BHP from the 3.5L VQ, probably turbocharged.
  • earlfargisearlfargis Posts: 16
    I dunno. The worse problem with the Z is the tire feathering problem and the extended warranty doesn't cover tires or alignments. The second worse problem is paint chipping. Nissan doesn't seem interested in doing anything about that (of course, short of repainting over the thin, Walmart paint job what's a fix?).

    As a company, Nissan's ranked slightly less than average by JD Edwards (based on surveys of 2001 models). The Z's quality thus far is sub-par even though the oldest ones on the road are about 2 years young.

    Me, I'd try to haggle them down (everything's negotiable at a dealership). If they wouldn't give much or anything I'd probably take my chances and sweat it out after the standard 3-year warranty was over. But then I know a darn good mechanic. P^)

    Is $1,360 exorbitant profit or a sign of lack of confidence on Nissan's part? Maybe a bit of each?
  • earlfargisearlfargis Posts: 16
    The only thing I heard was Nissan is considering, I believe, supercharging the Z upping the HP to 335. Won't see that in '05. '06 maybe?

    But there's a philosophical problem here. The 350Z was supposed to get back to the Z's roots. Any man's cheap thrill. The $26k sports car. True, the base coupe fulfills the promise. But for every base that shows up on a dealer's lot there's 5 or 6 $34-36k Track and Touring coupes. Add a supercharger (with whatever other options redefines the Z's high end) and the Z's marketing mix crosses well into the $40k range. Then it just becomes another high-priced sports coupe most of us can but drool over as they pass our commuter 'beaters' on the interstate. 8^)
  • rjgcparjgcpa Posts: 11
    I read in this forum about the paint and tire problems before buying my '04 Z. I hoped the tire problem (suspension related or otherwise) had been fixed for the '04 model year. I had autobahnd invisible bra applied to try and protect the paint. My '99 Lexus RX300 has experienced a lot of paint chipping on the front hood (maybe this is a sign of a problem related to the paint many companies are using today?).

    I like the car so much that maybe I foolishly wished the problems away. Kind of like 'my experience will be different' syndrome.

    As far as the warranty, you make a very good point. I can probably pick up an after-market warranty if I am still interested in owning the car 3 years from now.

    Thanks for the feedback.
  • scantyscanty Posts: 171
    Since Infiniti has already announced upgrades to the '05 G35 Sport Coupe, including 295+ horsepower, suspension upgrades, improvements to the shifter, and forged 19" aluminum alloy wheels. I've been checking for announcements, but there is nothing so far.

    Paint is an issue for many manufacturers, since they have gone away from solvent-based paints to more environmentally friendly water-based paint.
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    I have heard that '04's also have the tire feathering problem. You have to wonder how many 350 Z owners live with this problem. They just think since it is a sports car, the tires wear out sooner that a non performance car. I bet we would be surprised.
  • earlfargisearlfargis Posts: 16
    Here's the changes I've heard about for the '05. This is pretty much for certain:

    - An adjustable lower control arm change (from fixed) for the front
      suspension to fix the tire feathering;
    - A new color: yellow;
    - Front and rear driver seat raisers standard;
    - Navigation option available only on the Touring model;
    - Upgraded interior plastic bits (e.g., dash storage bin door);
    - Heated side mirrors standard on all models.

    Some plausible rumors I've heard:

    - An upgrade in HP. This speculation is based upon the announcement
      the G35 coupe gets boosted HP. Makes perfect sense but every dealer
      preordering Zs claims this isn't mentioned among the listed changes;
    - A mid-'05 anniversary Z based upon the NISMO S-Tune GT. It's rumored
      to be 300 or more HP. This car will be made for the Japanese market
      but no announcement regarding the US. I believe I read an article
      which said Nissan would produce it for export BUT that could mean
      Europe gets one while the US goes begging <sigh>;
    - Euro-tuned suspension to quiet critics of harsh ride. Actually, I've
      heard this was a "running" change for '04 that already has been
      implemented in Japan. Tied to the adjustable control arm fix which
      I understand may take a tad of the bite out of the Z's current
      handling, especially at high speeds?

    Other rumors float around but I wouldn't put much faith in them. The 350Z is only going into its 3rd production year. Too early for radical changes. But with sales off double-digit in '04 I have a feeling they'll have to do something by '06 to revitalize sales.
  • scantyscanty Posts: 171
    that I wish they would address is the interior. Not just the shoddy materials, but the styling and the ergonomics. It might work for a $26k base model, but when they are asking almost $40k for a decked out Touring Roadster, it's almost embarrassing. And would it kill them to offer a moonroof?
  • zzz350zzz350 Posts: 44
    It's a utilitarian interior. Look inside a Porsche or an older Ferrari, not a hell of a lot of refinement in them. If you want it real soft, go by a Lexus or something of similar refinement.
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