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  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    how much of the 4 cyl engine is built/originated in Mexico? I doubt the whole thing came from Mexico. I'd guess that the engine's electrical components might come from somewhere else, and parts of the engine may have been assembled and originated from somewhere else and then shipped as sub-assemblies.
  • aromasaromas Posts: 314
    Saw my 1st Mazda 3 on the road today. It was blue and I love that shade. Doesn't have that purple tinge like the 6. One thing I liked better than the 6 were the 17" rims on the car. What's the dealership charge for factory rims as I'm seriously thinking of putting those on my 6.

    I've also noticed that my front rims don't get as dirty as quickly in the cold weather. Does anybody else notice the same thing or is it my imagination?
  • narenjinarenji Posts: 161
    and i'm very happy with it. no problems except for a clutch pedal that has to completely down before i can start the engine. i noticed some staining on one door, but it was so light, and with my steel gray car, the dealer will never agree it's rust or whatever. I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens. i've enjoyed owning and driving the car...
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    "no problems except for a clutch pedal that has to completely down before i can start the engine"

    That's not a problem. I've driven a few MT cars that you have to do this to start. What's the big deal anyway?

  • I am also noticing a lessening of brake dust on the front wheels as the weather gets colder. I can't explain it unless the hotter the brakes (pads/rotors) get the more dust they make.
  • qddaveqddave Posts: 164
    From I've heard/seen, Ford will spawn a few cars and crossover/SUV's off of the 6 platform.
    - CD338 Ford Futura (replacement for Taurus)
    - CD334 Mercury Montego (replacement for Sable)
    - U387/U388 Ford/Mercury/Lincoln SUV (replaces Escape) The weird thing here is the the Tribute is being developed entirely in Japan and the domestics here.

    I'm not sure if the Ford Five Hundred (D Segment) will be developed from a stretched 6 platform.

    Yes, the Futura/Montego will be assembled in Mexico and the Five Hundred in Chicago and St.Louis (I think St. Louis), same as the Taurus/Sable.
  • qddaveqddave Posts: 164
    K, just found a mistake in my info:

    The Montego will be the Mercury counterpart of the Five Hundred. Those are the D degment vehicles and they will replace the Taurus/Sable. The CD platforms will be the Futura and I guess I don't know the name of the Mercury. The CD's will be based off of the 6 platform.
  • The Five Hundred (spelled out) and Montego will be a new platform sharing components with the bigger Volvos, like the 90 series.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    but I saw a blue 6 yesterday with clear tailights, spoiler, and not black tinted windows but white out tinted windows.

    On a side note I thought the 500 not the futura was the replacement for the Tarus. Somebody has to help me on this subject.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,565
    From what I have read, Futura is going to be slightly smaller than current Taurus-probably Accord/Mazda6/Malibu size, and 500 slightly bigger than current Taurus, at least in internal roominess if not outside dimensions.

    Also, current Taurus/Sable is Made in Chicago and Atlanta, not in St. Louis
  • I hope Ford learned its lesson from the Contour/Mystique. The Contour wasn't much bigger than the Escort, but sure was more expensive. The Contour was way smaller than the Taurus, but not much less expensive. Although the Contour was a great driver's car, it didn't speak value to the public and they just didn't buy it. A niche vehicle like this is fine for a small manufacturer like Mazda. But, anything that sells less than 100,000 copies per year is considered a complete failure for the big guys.

    I guess what I'm saying is that I'd hate to see the Futura flop and have Ford turn around and blame the Mazda platform.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,565
    With the 500 coming along at the same time, maybe that criticism will be deflected. If the Futura closely matches the CamCords in available space, this might work for Ford, especially if the performance and eventually reliability issues come out good. Note GM is really trying to do the same with Chevy, with the Impala existing along side the new Malibu. Same with Toyota, with Camry coexisting with Avalon.

    Pricing is pretty sensitive in the 4-door sedan arena, so it does become an issue if you've got two vehicles in your lineup where the price overlap is too much. That's probably what happened to Contour. It had a lot of good press, but if I remember correctly, major complaint was a too small back seat. Especially once Focus came along, it was squeezed on the small end by Focus and on the large end by Taurus.

    I definitely expect much more sharing of platforms between Ford, Mazda and also with Ford's European operations in the future. There are just too many auto competitors in the world today, and shared platforms will help keep costs down with survival at stake.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    I see alot of people in their 30's drving them. Its a good car for the people in their 30's but a person in their 50's? No. The problem with the Contour was it was too close in class with the Tarus and Escort.

    So I guess the 500 will be a Dodge Intrepid competitor while the Futura fills the old Tarus spot.

    I don't think Ford is going to blame Mazda for anything.
  • akumazakumaz Posts: 65
    I promised myself that I would wait until next year for a 6, but the rebates are making me want to jump the gun. I'm still looking at getting a 2003 6i (or 6s if the price is right), and it seems that getting one with a moonroof and leather for practically base price (when introduced) is possible.

    However, I'd still have to trade off ABS/TCS for that unless I went full out. Not only that, but I'd have to trade in the 2003 Golf I'm currently financing (d'oh!). So I don't want to get reamed in terms of price and financing. Any chance that these rebates will continue into the first half of next year? Any advice on what I can do?
  • The big rebates are here to flush out the remaining 2003 inventory. Once the 03s are gone, I would expect to see rebates on the 04s that will increase to the level that we are seeing now. Sales numbers are averaging just over 6000 units per month with the big rebates. To put this number in perspective, Honda sells about 30,000 Accords per month and Toyota had just over 5,500 sales of the low-volume Prius sedans last month. With the addition of the more expensive hatch and wagon models, Mazda may have to keep the big rebates going to keep sales up.
  • akumazakumaz Posts: 65
    I understand that the deals on the '03's won't last pass when they sell out. It's just that I'm tired of waiting. I thought I could wait to see how the Mazda 3s would compare, and while it's an outstanding small car (test drove one last week, with a bad ending), it made the great features of the 6 stand out in comparison- not to mention the rebates.

    A few questions (non-6 related):
    -If I wanted to go about getting someone to take over my monthly payments on my car, what would be the best way of doing that?
    -Are Hertz employees (and family members of employees) eligible for the S-Plan on Mazdas?
    -Would the rebates and "dealer cash" be eligible on S-Plan?

    If both of these work out in my favor, I might entertain the thought of getting one very soon.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Akumaz, the best thing to do is post those questions on our Smart Shopper board and/or our Finance, Warranty & Insurance board. Those boards are designed to address questions such as yours and they offer experience from a much larger segment of our membership than you'll find in any single-vehicle focused conversation such as this one.

    Good luck! And as always feel free to drop me an email if I can help you find any resource in the Town Hall.

  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    ... SOME of his/her questions (S plan eligibility, details) are valid and MORE relevant here. They could bear being echoed in the Smart Shoppers and other sections, but with the various people associated with Mazda/Ford here - the truth may be out HERE ;)
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Yes, Hertz is an S-plan company. You get the S-plan price plus any applicable incentives at the time of delivery.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    No argument, ashu - I just want to make sure everyone is aware of all the wonderful resources available in the Town Hall. Those two boards are very often overlooked and people don't get the best feedback when they don't find the best places to ask their questions. S-plan details have been discussed at great length on the SS board.

    If I came across in some other manner, I apologize.
  • Contour's one problem was that size/price classes changed overnight after it was released. Compacts grew, and mid size car prices stagnated.

    The older Nissan Altima was also squeezed between Sentra and Maxima. They grew it up in 2002 and sales took off.

    As for the Ford Futura, the plan is for a "stretched and widened" Mazda 6, not smaller.
  • akumazakumaz Posts: 65
    It has been awhile since I've posted here, so I apologize for putting this on the wrong board '^_^ I'll post something there.
  • akumazakumaz Posts: 65
    Thanks for the input, BTW. My brother is an employee, so I was curious.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Akumaz, no apology necessary - I'm sure if the folks here can help, they will as some already have. I just didn't want you to miss out on our other resources.

    Good luck and keep us posted!

  • All these "I'm Sorry", and "Apologies". It must be the holiday season! Perhaps a Group Hug is in order?

    Mark. : )
  • 1wiseguy1wiseguy Posts: 120
    That should do it for the group hug
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    Yeah, the Mazda "staining" (a.k.a rust) fix is bogus!

    (ducking for cover)
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    S-plan details have been discussed at great length on the SS board.

    I DID not know that - seems I was nocorrect, so, guess waht - another apology ;)

    Yeah - the Holiday Season is fun, but weird!
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    ... I wonder if someone's spreading FUD?

    I have come into contact with several (possibly hundreds?) of Mazda 6 owners, many own the V6 - and have met well over 30 in person, and have yet to hear of anyone with a serious mechanical problem under the hood.

    I'd venture to say Jerry here has the most problems of anyone I know, BY FAR, and he owns an auto I-4 with the 2.3 engine.

    I'd keep an eye on this - how trustworthy is this news program? I've never heard of the mag, website or show!

    Considering most people's tendency to go online and post about problems only, I'd be very surprised if there were any truth to this - seeing as no one's heard about it!

    Is it possible they're speaking on the basis of some reviews on MSN's website - there's a known problem with a certain anti-Mazda script kiddie who's been giving the car a spate of 0/10 and 1/10 reviews, and pretending to be an owner. Sad, really - but the person has no life.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    So what problems with the V6 are they reporting? I haven't heard about any.
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