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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    The 6 is included in Edmunds' latest Family Sedan comparo. You can access the article through the Helpful Links box on the left side of the page.
  • theo2709theo2709 Posts: 476
    What's up guys (and gals), I am in the market for a new car and the 6 is on my short list. I wanted to ask you guys straight up: how real is the "rust issue"? Furthur, are the cars sitting on the lot right now free from the problem? Does it affect 04s? Exactly how large are the "stains" if and when they pop up? Are the stains just on the inside of the door? And lastly, would a dealer cover the charge of the "fix", and if not how much is it? Thanks for the help, nothing beats Edmunds when it comes to owner's and maintenence message boards!
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    The rust issue is "real" if you get car with the problem. Cars on dealer lots can not be assumed to be free of the problem. I don't think anyone can say with certainty that the 04s are not affected, as the VIN range that Mazda quoted seems to be wrong. The fix is performed under warranty so there is no cost to the owner (assuming the fix works).

    My local dealer has a Mazda6 equipped exactly that way I want it, but until this is resolved I'll probably pass on it, and maybe get a Mazda3.
  • theo2709theo2709 Posts: 476
    Thanks Gary. Glad to hear the fix is under warranty. How big/noticeable are the stains? Also, is there any danger of any parts corroding?
  • The rust/stain varies from car to car and by region. The only reason region is an issue is the weather that is experienced in that region. Cars on the rainy east coast are much more affected than cars in dry and sunny southern California. My car (San Diego) has numerous small spots. Some cars that are on the east coast have massive staining that nearly spans the entire upper door frame. Some cars don't have any signs of staining or rusting at all. Check the car you are looking at thoroughly. If the car is affected, it will show signs immediately (i.e., at the dealership lot).
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    Rust IS one form of corrosion. Some of us believe that the "staining" is from rust, and not the "soapy solution" as claimed by Mazda.
  • My M6S is in the VIN list of cars potentially affected by rust but I can't find any trace of it. I checked several times at different places. I even used a cotton swab to check under tight spaces but still there is no trace of it. Built date was 03/03. Am I the only one here with no rust?
  • rodlcwrodlcw Posts: 45
    Does anyone have a snap or click sound? I usually hear it while turning right, but I think I have heard it at other times? My ears are bad, so hard to tell where it comes from, but seems like I hear it from different locations.
    I have a S auto loaded.
  • This sound has been known to plague 6's worldwide. Mazda has not released a fix, but try this:

    Release your steering column lock lever and move the steering wheel up and down, in and out several times. This should help to lubricate the steering column, and has helped several owners here. This temporary solution came from Mazda U.K.
  • ian2ian2 Posts: 168
    What's the fix to this problem? I took apart my front doors, tightened everything, but the noise is still there.
  • I would take it into your dealership. This was a common problem with the early builds and they are quite familiar with the fix. The problem is the window mounting bolts. They were not tightened correctly at the factory and allowed the glass to move when the window reached the top of their run. The dealership will also correctly position the glass, as there is room for adjustments.
  • rodlcwrodlcw Posts: 45
    I did the move steering column in and out and up and down, no change. Like I said, I have a hearing problem, but I think I hear my sound from behind me and once in awhile I thought I heard it down by the steering column. Scheduled to take it in jan 6th, and maybe they can better isolate noise. Also hope they can fix the dang squealing brakes when turning. Also the automatic gear shift squeake when moving it from drive to park or back. And i hear there is some recall regarding something with the fuel ???
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,863
    Maybe a worn CV joint in the front?? Maybe the CV boot was torn and dirt and crud have gotten in there. Clicking sound when turning is a sign of that.
  • ian2ian2 Posts: 168
    Worn CV joint and torn CV boot in a one-year-old car? That's highly unlikely.
  • Rodlcw

    There is a recall pertaining to the fuel sender unit possibly being improperly installed in the fuel tank, which may cause a fuel leak. The Mazda recall number is 1403L. You can see this information on the NHTSA web site.
  • For those who have had their 6 fixed according to the TSB 09-20/03, to the best of your knowledge, was there rust below the weatherstripping?
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    and it's been there since 8:00 AM. It's 4:30 PM now here.

    They said they were going to have their body shop take a look at it. I'm also having the window clunk checked out and getting the tires rotated. It's been there for 8 1/2 hours; they must not be doing the "staining" TSB, because if they did, I'd have my car now instead of this Corolla that kills my back. I've read comments about the Corolla's seats, but I didn't know they were this bad.

    I forgot to mention the fuel tank thing, I wonder if they'll do it anyway? It might show up when they punch in my VIN.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,863
    A torn CV boot can happen by running over a tree branch, piece of metal et al. One may not even notice it. It has nothing to do with age. Once a boot is torn, even a little bit of grit/sand/gravel mixing with the lubricant can cause damage.

    It most likely not the case but it is a possibility and I did not state that my suggestion was the definitive answer just that the clicking sound when turning is a symptom of worn CV joints.
  • rodlcwrodlcw Posts: 45
    Hey guys, I appreciate any suggested possibility, that is what I think this board is about. It is annoying to me and I would like to get it fixed. It is interesting that it mainly happens when turning right, but I think I have heard it a couple times just going straight. Bought the car one year ago, and it went many months without this. I also had the window issue, early on and they resolved that. Early on I had a leak and i can't exactly remember right now but seems like in the transaxle.
  • Turned 11,000 on my 6s AT today. 3/03 build date.

    Work to date:

    1) Rust/Stain repair on all 4 doors. No sign of anything returning.
    2) Window Clunk repaired by tightening bolts.

    Otherwise, perfect.

    Mark. : )
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    It's been there since 8:00 AM yesterday.

    I never thought I'd miss ol' rusty, but after driving that Corolla rental, I'd give my left arm to have the 6 back. The seats in the Corolla are torture to the point that I didn't want to drive it. People think the Corolla looks like the 6, but I don't really think so. I was embarrassed to be driving it, and was hesitant to walk up to it if people were around.

    I can't wait to see what the body shop surgery looks like.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    and it doesn't look like they did anything to it. There are still "stains". If they did anything, I can't tell. The only thing it says on the work order is "repair door sash".

    There's a new explanation of what the stains are too. My service advisor said the rubber weatherstripping reacted negatively with whatever they put on the door sashes during assembly and THAT's what's causing the "staining". Whatever. We have a better chance of figuring out who killed Kennedy than getting a straight answer on what these weird brown stains are.

    I don't really care anymore and I'm not going to go back to the dealer and ask them why they needed my car for a day and a half when it doesn't look like they did anything. I have my piece of paper that documents the issue and I don't really know what else I can do. Maybe it's not rust? Maybe it's dried up soap? Maybe it's the weatherstripping reacting negatively with the strange substance? Maybe the guy who puts on the weatherstripping at Flat Rock is really messy and doesn't wash his hands after he takes a crap? Who knows? I'll be sure to find out before my rust warranty runs out.
  • Sorry to hear that your service department seems to have done nothing with your car despite having it for over a day. Are there any other dealers near you to have them look at it?

    "Maybe the guy who puts on the weatherstripping at Flat Rock is really messy and doesn't wash his hands after he takes a crap?"

  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Yeah, there are 3 other dealers that I could bring it too, but I'm not going to because it's a pain. I'm just going to let it go and see what happens. If it's not rust I'll be happy. If it's rust, and I'll figure that out sooner or later because I'm going to keep an eye on it, Mazda's gonna fix it.
  • Own a 2003 Lapis blue Mazda6s, 3000 miles. So far no rust issues, slight drift to left with steering. One dealership informed me he has had other owners complain of this problem and that Mazda has not provided him proper specs to allign the car correctly. Also, rear view defroster weak. Otherwise, I have been very happy with my purchase. Love the V6 power, glad I chose it over the 4 cyclinder. 21 mpg in mixed driving. Happy with the Bose stereo system and performance of the heated seats. I also purchased a Pro5 as my main transportation vehicle around town. Very pleased with it too. I initially owned a Mazda B2200 before purchasing a Toyota RAV4. Glad I got rid of the Toy and am back in the Mazda family.
  • r2s2r2s2 Posts: 93
    Had my Redfire M6s MT since mid-July. Not a single issue or problem, including staining/rust. It's a blast to drive. I just wish the RX-8 hadn't caught my eye darn it.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    Could you be so kind as to give us the build option combos for the Mazda6 hatchback? If you know the standard equipment that would be great too. ;)
  • kannonkannon Posts: 18
    I noticed on my Lapis Blue Mazda 6 that there are a lot of scratches. I have been really careful about wax and the car and not using any sharp objects to remove the snow that we got in the first week of December. Is anyone else seeing a lot of scratches on their car??? Is the Lapis Blue more prone to scratches?? Is anyone unhappy about the paint quality?? Thanks.
  • accord7accord7 Posts: 96
    In looking at the 6 on dealer's lots recently, I've noticed that nearly all of the cars are fully loaded. When you start comparing a loaded 6i with the 4-cylinder engine to the Accord 4-cylinder, the Mazda is much higher priced. I don't know if this is the dealer's doing or Mazda corporate, but this may not be the best way to gain marketshare.
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