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Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair



  • That sounds like the temp gauge sender. I have had that happen a few times over the years. Once you figure out where the sender is, it is a quick replacement and not particularly expensive. When the thermostat goes bad it will not cool down all that quickly.
  • I have a 2006 OB wagon. How do you get the rear wiper blade off? It is not like the front blades. I am afraid of breaking it ..... Don't know why Subaru did this because you can not even get Winter blade for the back. Janice
  • The battery that initially suffered the total drain has already been replaced yet the problem persists. We are having one of the warmest winters on record so I don't think that is the culprit at all. It's a maddening issue to be sure. I was hoping that the problem was something that may have come up with others with the same make model & year to give me a clue. I will go for the quick disconnect battery relay cable for now and keep searching. Thank you for you reply.
  • Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.
  • It is definitely a parasitic drain. I replaced the battery. I unhook it whenever it is parked for over a couple of hours at the moment. I followed your link and plan to make use of it - thank you!
  • Yep. I will be getting one of these. My brother suggested the same thing. I will go through the fuses and everything else one by one when the weather improves. Hopefully I can limp it along until then. Thanks for your response.
  • I had this problem with my 97 Subaru; two things I would check. #1 would the alternator; however, #2 what was causing my car to constantly go dead was the security system on the car. I was told by Subaru, that was causing problems; they can't remove it because it will mess up the wiring on the car, but they can disconnect it. It was draining the charge on the car.
  • Happened to meo once in the middle of pudumh , nowhere... The alternator ws the culprit.... Hard to walk home 500 miles from nowhere... Put in a rebuilt alternator (much cxheaper) and see what happens...
  • OK, now that the weather has warmed up, so has the "sounds" that went away during the winter. One of these new sounds is a squeal whenever I am turning at intersections.
    Last year I had a wheel bearing changed on the drivers front, I am wondering if the mechanic botched the job and said part is failed and thus making noise (part not loose but is making noise like it did before it was initially changed. I also wonder if my Left front strut is failed, there is oil/greasy dirt/residue from the strut that would indicate to me that it is leaking/failing and has been that way for a while but I've never had an issue with. Any other possibilities? thoughts on what might be wrong?
  • hammerheadhammerhead Posts: 907
    Maybe a bad CV joint?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,925
    What is the age/mileage of the car?
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • Age :sick: close to hitting 230,000 km, its a 1997 legacy outback 2.5L
    I've had the front CV axles replaced about 4 years ago, they don't make that clicky sound as when the CV boots are ripped open.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,925
    edited April 2012
    Well, at that age and distance, if the struts are original, they're done. That said, they should not cause the squeal you report. If they are not damping well, though, they will contribute to increased wear on other suspension components.

    Another contributing factor could be worn ball joints, but if the noise was coming from them directly, I would expect a squeaking sound any time they are dry and warm, not just on turns. Might it be wheel bearings? Yes, though I am reluctant to implicate them if recently replaced. That said, if they were not installed properly, they can fail rather quickly. Wheel bearings deal with an incredible amount of force - it is not a forgiving environment!
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • dhyandhyan Posts: 2
    Does anyone own this new car with this trim package? Interested in any issues that anyone is having. How do you like the rear camera? Many thanks, D
  • I'm thinking about buying a 2012 Outback Limited, with 4-cylinder, CVT. Is there still a head gasket problem? The salesman told me I would have to get them done at about 100,000 miles. I thought that Subaru had fixed this problem with their newer vehicles.

    Also, can I expect a "jerking" problem with this CVT transmission?
    Can I expect any problems with the AWD? I had a 1992 Mitsubishi AWD, and the transfer case had to be repaired every 35,000 miles (a $6500 repair).

    Can I expect any other problems?
  • Also, is the CVT a good thing to have, rather than a 5-Speed Automatic?

    The salesmand told me the Outback I was looking at was a 5-Speed Automatic with CVT. I thought a CVT had infinite speeds, not just 5. Was the salesman correct?
  • hammerheadhammerhead Posts: 907
    CVT is indeed infinite. It has a manu-matic option with 5 ratios that lets you pretend you have a 5-speed auto.

    Personally, i'd go for the 6-speed true manual with the short-throw shifter kit. But that's just me. :D
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    Head gasket is a thing of the past as far as I know. It was most common in the 2000-2002?? models. I have a 2001 with 200K miles and zero issues with head gaskets or transmission. I just bought my second Subaru (Impreza). If I recall the only must fix issues I've had beyond normal maintenance, was a sensor and alternator.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,595
    your 2001 is susceptible to head gasket failure as well but sounds like with those miles that you've dodged the bullet. Usually it shows up on the 2.5L Subaru at around 110K-130K. And if you were REALLY lucky, your driver's window switch didn't break, either. :P

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  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    Yes, it was a prime canidate for head gaskets. Its still a daily driver for us. The AWD is fantastic.
    Power windows don't get used a whole lot up here in MN. 5 months its too cold and 3 months its too hot for putting the windows down. :) Most of my commuting is freeway, so the windows tend to stay up the rest of the time too!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,595
    How 'bout your catalytic converter? Did that fail or break loose?

    The window switches just get harder and harder to push up and down---they move but they don't make contact very well after a while.

    Did you know that Subarus get more speeding tickets than any other car? Weird, huh?

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  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    Yes the catalytic converter did go. I sort of figured it was a wear and tear thing since it went at around 160k miles.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    If you are still concerned about head gaskets, wait for the 2013 model, which they just showed at the NY Auto Show.

    It gets the FB engine block. The coolant lines for the head and block are completely separate now.

    No coolant will leak from the gaskets no matter what - because the coolant no longer flows through the gasket at all.

    Recent gasket improvements all but solved the issue, but with the FB blocks ( now used on the Forester, Impreza, Outback, and Legacy) that chapter is thankfully completely closed. :shades:

    The FA block in the BRZ is designed similarly. The EZ36 block is not, IIRC, but it never had many problems in the first place.
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    edited April 2012
    Nope. Not real concerned about the gaskets. Slightly concerned about all the other parts I haven't replaced yet. ;) At 200K miles just about anything can wear out and need to be replaced.

    Our new 2012 Impreza is the replaceement, and the Outback can go to my daughter who will be learning to drive soon.
  • pathtomaxpathtomax Posts: 215
    I am currently driving my 3rd Outback. This same issue has happened to every model ('96, '01 4EAT, and now '08 H6)

    Here is the situation where it happens.

    I have my car in the driveway. I need to just start it and move it about 2 feet and then will shut it off again. This was Saturday afternoon.

    Today, Monday, I go out to start my car for my morning commute. It takes a good 2 minutes to get the car to turn over. I wait, as always, for a bit for the dashboard needles to move over and back before starting. Just like I always do.

    My question, is this a common problem with Subies if you start them for a quick move and then shut off again? Does the engine not burn the fuel enough or something? This has happened with all 3 Subarus I have had. Hard starting the next time after a short start.

    Does this make sense what I am describing?!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Could be an emissions thing. If you shut off the engine before it's fully warm, that is.
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    Seems I've had similar problem with my 2001 Outback. Its probably happens once per year and I could never figure out the cause. I don't think I ever moved my car just two feet, but I have had the key slip from my fingers when attempting to start. That failed it starting, then caused a tough second attempt at starting... related? extra gas left un-burned in the system from a really cold engine? don't know.

    The car always started (with a little extra effort) the second try so I've never really cared or was concerned.
    It hasn't happened on my 2012 Impreza yet, but one or two others complained of a "hard start" once.
  • pathtomaxpathtomax Posts: 215
    OK, so I am not crazy. :) I guess it is a combo of the unburned gas and emissions. It started just fine this morning on a cold and rainy New England day!
  • jd_24jd_24 Posts: 92
    your 2001 is susceptible to head gasket failure as well but sounds like with those miles that you've dodged the bullet. Usually it shows up on the 2.5L Subaru at around 110K-130K.

    You had to mention it didn't you. 3 weeks later and its in the shop. Oil and coolant leak from headgasket. So i didn't dodge it, but just avoided it a bit longer than some. 200K miles on the 2001 Outback.

    The 2013 or 14 Outback might be the replacement for it in another year or two.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,595
    I SWEAR I don't have such super powers and if I did I would only use them for good, not evil :shades:

    Ah, well...your car has served you admirably well, so it's time for you to reward it.

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