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Lincoln Aviator



  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    No, that's crazy. I have had 4 CD players replaced in my Navigator. Here's the poop:

    1st one - CD's would not eject easily - replaced unit on the spot with new one. Car in and out in one day, loaner was given to me, a Town Car.

    2nd one - #s 2,3 & 4 buttons functioned, but stuck a little. Unit replaced again, in and out in one day, loaner given, Town Car, no charge again, no problem.

    3rd one - Unit was defective in that it did not turn off ever, and drained my battery, otherwise played fine. Unit replaced in one day, loaner given free of charge, Town Car, no problem, dealer apologized for recurring inconvenience.

    4th unit still in car, working just fine.

    So you tell your dealer where to put their CD unit, nicely, but they owe you a new one. They can order the unit if they don't have one in stock, call you when it's in, have you bring the car in, give you a loaner, and install it, or have you wait, it shouldn't take more than 1 hour to replace the unit, frankly, it should take 5 minutes to change it out. But that's rediculous. If my dealer can do it so easily, 3 times, yours could do it once! If he won't try another dealer for sure. Try mine! Signature Lincoln Mercury, Las Vegas, Nevada. I think it's true, they do send the defective ones back for re-manufacture, and that's why I got 2 bad ones for replacements, but I wasn't too badly inconvenienced on the whole. New would have been better, but with the loaners, apologies and no charge for anything, I chose to be patient. In the end, I won.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    Small world - I buy my parts from Signature L/M in Las Vegas (Bill Jenkins). He provided part numbers and prices for the new rear window regulator for my LS (without the motor so they're < $30). If their service department is anything like Bill then they're great.

    Seriously - try another dealer. The only reason I can think of for requiring a repair rather than replacement is if the replacements are also defective or they're on national back order.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    The aviator is in the shop, waiting for a new head. Lost compression on #7 cylinder. Rumor has it this is a common problem with 4.6L DOHC heads - lack of cooling on cylinders 7/8. The ABS light is coming on intermittently and the climate control seems to be erratic at times. Previously the cruise control failed intermittently but it's been ok for several months.

    I was hoping to keep it for several more years but if this keeps up I'll have to ditch it in a couple of years.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Wow, not TOO common, akirby, I don't hear of it very often..... This engine has been in production since 95, now why would an engineering fault like this persist for 10 years? Clearly, it doesn't happen to all of them, as it's rarely mentioned in places such as this...... Any explanations from your sources?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    There aren't that many of the DOHC 4.6L engines around (comparatively speaking). They were used in the old Cobras and the Mark VIII (IIRC) but not much else. I think it's a design problem with the head itself and probably only shows up in a fraction of them. But our regular service adviser seemed to recognize the problem immediately so I think it's happened before. Probably not a widespread problem.
    If I get more info I'll let you guys know.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The 95 and on Continentals used that engine also, akirby - they sold a fair number of those too - between the Mark VIII and Continentals, this should have been resolved by now, because the Mark came out in 93, I this engine has been out a good long time now......
  • michael10michael10 Posts: 29
    Picked up an 05 about two weeks ago. Wife loves it. I heard that the dealer can install bluetooth (handsfree system). We do have the Nav. which it looks like you need. Has anyone out there had this done? if so, any feedback or advise would be great.
  • baudilusbaudilus Posts: 1
    Hi Everyone. I've been seeing a lot of complaints about strange things here and thankfully, I've not experienced them. I've had my (2005) Avi for about 5 months now, and I (and my wife) love it. I've only had three cars in my life (not including my parents' old K car when I first got my license), and they've always been Ford products. First was a 2000 Focus (first model year), then a 2002 Explorer 4WD, and now the Aviator. For anyone thinking that it's just an Explorer with a different dash is sadly mistaken.

    Incidentally enough, I found this forum because I was looking for a solution to another problem. I noticed in the manual that the rear DVD system won't play burned DVD discs. I'm assuming that this is just for liability, since I got one to play (A Knights Tale), and one to partially play albeit slowly (The Matrix). The rest just won't.

    The reason I ask is because I have a lot of DVDs, and I want to have a good selection (maybe my whole collection!) in the car for trips, but I don't want to keep the original discs in the car all of the time, so I figured I would copy them and leave the precious originals at home. I'm using DVD Shrink 4.3 with DVD43Free and DVD-R discs, if that's useful. Has anyone gotten any homemade / backed-up DVDs to work consistenly in the Aviator?


    Oh, and to the person who posted about the audio system making a strange noise, I had that happen recently and for the life of me couldn't figure out what that strange, I can only describe it as "loopy," sound was, until I turned off the SCV (Speed Compensated Volume). The weird noise (which was coming from the subwoofer) stopped after that. Hope that helps!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    I don't know if the DVD player supports DVD-R discs or not. Based on similar CD-R issues I would recommend burning the DVD-R discs at the slowest speed possible. The owner's manual should tell you whether it supports DVD-R or not.

    If the DVD-R discs play at home then keep the backup copy at home and take the original. You're still covered.
  • scc22scc22 Posts: 1
    Hey everyone. I'm in the market for a 2005 Aviator, but news of Ford's discontinuation of the SUV has made me a bit worried (I read they are stopping production in July of 2005 and will re-introduce the Aviator in 2007 as a car-based SUV)... I have no idea if my concerns are accurate, but will current Aviator owners run into problems finding "Aviator quality" replacement parts down the road? Is there a risk of an increased cost of ownership with this vehicle? Again, I really have no idea how the automotive industry deals with these transitions, but I thought I'd ask all of you.

    Thanks for the input!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    No worries. They keep parts for years, sometimes decades. Plus it shares a lot of components with the Explorer and Mountaineer.
  • asemaasema Posts: 33
    Does it bother other people too that there is no address book feature for storing addresses in the Navigation system?
    Or is the feature there and I just don't know about it? I've used other cars navigation systems, and they all seem to have the address book, and its very useful . It bothers me that the lincoln does not. I know it remembers the last few (20 ??) addresses entered, but its a rolling list.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    I haven't used mine in awhile but I thought you could store up to 10 addresses including Home.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    It's there - when you get the Destination screen you can choose from 5 special memory points at the bottom of the page (plus Home). If you hit NEXT you get another screen where you can access regular Memory Points. These 2 memory lists are in addition to the previous destinations. Read the owner's manual, please.
  • i have been experiencing odd noises when i drive on the fwy pass 65 mph. it's driving me crazy!!!!! it has happens all the time. it sounds like howling in my left rear. i thought it was the wind blowing in the rear view mirror but i am reading from other consumers and i am thinking it might be the axle noises everyone has been experience. i called the dealership and asked them if it was common. of course, the service manager says "i have never heard complaints about that. bring it in." hmmmm i am starting to wonder if my car is just a lemon! my car is always in the dealership for something. last time i went to get my 15k oil change, the dealership found that i had leaking fluids and my gaskets had to be replaced. i told them i was very concerned b/c my car is still new and that seems to be a major repair. i am thankful i leased the car and have 2 years left. i don't think i will get another Lincoln....TOO MANY PROBLEMS!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    Please describe the noise - does it start at a certain mph then go away at higher mph? Or is it constant? Does it matter whether you have your foot on the accelerator or not?

    Could be a bad tire or wheel bearing if it's only on one side. The differential whine comes from the center, only occurs between a certain mph range and only with the accelerator depressed.

    And please don't let your experience with one vehicle prevent you from buying another one. Overall Lincoln is quite high on the JD Power reliability survey and #1 in dealer satisfaction (although there are plenty of bad Lincoln dealerships out there). And every mfr makes a few lemons now and then, even (gasp) Honda and Toyota.
  • the noise is pretty constant. i tested it out this weekend and it happens when i am 75mph. when i slow down, then the noise's like a howling sound. like an owl "who who"

    so is this noise normal? i have never driven in any car w this kind of howling. my friend owns a navigator and has driven w/ me while the noise occured. she said she doesn't hear any noises in her car.

    so i recorded it on my cell phone and will take it into the dealership.will keep you posted but i honestly think this car has lots of problems for being a year old
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    In case nobody noticed, the current Aviator is DEAD. There will be no 2006 Aviator. The 2007 Aviator will be based off the CD3 (Mazda6 platform) similar to the Lexus Rx330.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    First I'd check and make sure you don't have an owl stuck to your roof rack.

    Could be the differential, or the rear air conditioner, or wind noise.
  • I have a '03 Aviator with rear DVD player. I can get the DVD to play but I can't get
    the audio to play. I've learned I need some headphones. Where can I order these from? But the big issue...Why doesn't the DVD play through the speakers???
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    Did you check the owner's manual? The one online doesn't have the info on how to operate the DVD system. Normally the sound is routed into the OEM radio as a DVD input (cycle through am/fm1/fm2/cd/etc or as an auxilliary input source.

    Are you sure this is OEM or was this added aftermarket? The OEM unit uses wireless headphones that should be orderable from any dealer. Or call your dealer and ask them who does their radio repair - it's usually done offsite by a radio specialist. They can probably get the OEM headphones also and may be cheaper.
  • You're right. The dealer does use an outside contractor to make this sort of repair. I had to call around to find that out. The dealership I purchased the vehicle didn't seem to know that. It looks like the Lincoln/Mecury dealerships (in Maryland) use a company called Tri-State Auto.

    This is the rear DVD player that Ford/Lincoln puts in its SUVs. I'm shocked at how little they know about it.

    The system seems to function except for the audio. I agree that the audio most likely plays on one the the channels (FM or AM). Does anyone out there know what station to tune to for the DVD audio???
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    According to the 2003 Navigator manual (should be the same as the Aviator) you should be able to toggle between CD and DVD audio by pressing the CD button. Try that. You can find the 2003 Navigator OM (and all others) here:
  • They do on Jaguar XJR's!
  • I'n not sure if there is a way to do this on a ford, but there is for toyotas. We have an 04 Aviator, and I prefere not to put on my seat belt until after I get out of the drive way. Anyways, sometimes i end up idling for a while before i back out, and the warning gets really annoying. Is there anyway to disable it like with the camrys?
  • Spare wheel's on Aviators are black. A/C compressor's "grind"!

    Buyers beware,

    Anybody out there experiencing a "Grinding Noise" when they turn on their A/C compressor? Seems common in '03 & '04 Aviators only. It is a "NO FIX" problem because of a "DESIGN FAULT" aka DEFECT allowing fluid to drain down into the bottom of the casting. Turn on the A/C (hot or cold motor) and the piston grinds coming up.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    Gee - I don't know. But you might want to check page 184 of your owner's manual (that thing in the glovebox that nobody ever reads). What a silly place to put information on how to operate your vehicle.
  • yea, I actually did read the manual at some point, but can't seem to find it anymore. The point is, a service tech claims that there is no way to turn it off, but I just want to know it there is a way that service techs aren't suppose to tell you.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,018
    The procedure is right there in the manual. If you can't find yours then get it free online:
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