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Honda Element



  • footiefootie Posts: 636
    As I said in my recent post, when I drove my E to Delaware and back last weekend, most of the travel was at 70 mph or so on dry pavement. It felt very stable at that speed, but I didn't feel encouraged to go much higher which is so easy in a car these days. Crosswinds were heard more than felt. The E is not a particularly quiet ride.

    I also watched the highway surface pretty carefully too. The E is 'bouncy' and roads with undulations or potholes are a pain in the ....

    We've had two days of rain here in the Boston area, some places over 7". The E has seemed fine hitting the lingering surface water.

    However, you do need to be light on the gas on the 5spd FWD when the street is damp, it will definitely break loose if you put your foot down in 1st gear.

    This car/SUV is much quicker than you would think.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Maybe someone here can do the math, but at 85mph aren't you running over 4000 rpm? Those kind of revs will make for a pretty loud cabin.

  • hppypaulhppypaul Posts: 43
    is what some of you may need. I have a 5spd, awd E and drive it like a beemer most of the time. It's solid on the highway at 70 and I can punch it up to pass easily and without fear of disaster. It's not that noisy either. Maybe I just got a good one, but I feel very safe in mine in all conditions.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Not to be a nitpicker but a BEEMER refers to a motorcycle while BIMMER refers to the car!

    Carry on!

    tidester, host
  • lalagimplalagimp Posts: 61
    Tomorrow I take my Elephant to the claims center.
    He is silver and my friend named him.
    I hope I can have my baby back in under a month.
    We read ended someone and broke my radiator as well as crushing in alot of the front molding though the lights are intact.
    Very surprised the airbags didn't go off cause it felt alot harder than what's allowed; then again I've never been in one of these to know.

    Yeah it held up well enough, and there is more damage to my car than her's from what it seems.
    She was in a 92 Escort. My car ate her bumper but left her trunk alone.

    Husband and I are happy as allowed with this crash experience.

    I know for a fact, Mercury Mountaineers don't handle things quite as well.


    The End.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    LOL, tidester, that's the way for a host to keep us in check! :o)

  • rojachirojachi Posts: 1
    Anybody bought a dashcover for their Element? I'd like to get a little feedback on what brands are good and bad. Thanks!
  • footiefootie Posts: 636
    Our E is about 2 months old (it's a 5 speed) .

    Every now and then as I am accelerating, I feel a short change in engine speed, almost like the a/c compressor is going on or going off. Since it's still chilly here in New England, the a/c is obviously off, but the heater is on.

    I don't notice it as much with the heater off, but did notice it a few times yesterday.

    Is this normal in an E or other 4 cyl Honda vehicles?
  • lalagimplalagimp Posts: 61
    I don't know, i've had vehicles that do that before... I've had my element for 4 months and on cross country road trips as well as city driving. I think i know what you're talking about- cept it's on our stratus, not the E for this house

    If you still have your warranty , have someone do a diagnostic for you if it's worrying you so much. if there is something real going on you need the option early to fix it or trade.
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    Road noise?? How would you ever notice with a stereo system like that??? Sure, if it's completely silent in the vehicle, you can hear some noise while on the highway, but who the hell drives in silence?? My stereo is on ALL the time !!! That thing rocks! I've had no problems with handling either in the city or on the big roads. I do NOT agree that it drives like a truck. It handles better than my '95 Corolla and that thing zips around town. I love my "E". Even people who hated it, absolutely love it now that the've seen it in person. I'd recommend to anyone who is even remotely curious. And for $600 Under invoice, I love it even more !!!
  • footiefootie Posts: 636
    I talked to my sales guy today (now the Honda Excel guy for his dealership). He said they covered this in a Honda training course he was at two weeks ago. The Element's a/c compressors cycles a few times per day for a short period of time to insure that they stay properly lubricated. This prevents freeze up due to non-use. This is true even in winter (he said).
  • What are the chances of Honda adding a different kind of rear seat (and it accompanying seat belt) to turn it into a 5-seater?

    I was in a Scion xB. Very surprised at how jiggly the ride was--but then they had these low-profile sport tires on it. The test drive covered a bumpy old city street, and a more subdued church parking lot. Didn't like the ride. But I'll have to test drive a more normal tire on the xB. I did wish that Honda made something like it for our family of 5.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Honda does make a five seater version, but it is only shipped overseas. Given how similar the CR-V and Element are, I sorta doubt that Honda will add a 5th seat to the US spec Element. Family hauling is the CR-V's job.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    If Honda wants the CR-V to be the family hauler, they need to increase driver leg room. The Element has driver leg room but the CR-V does not. Its almost as if the CR-V is designed for a smaller (female?) driver with tall men relegated to the back seat - plenty of room there!
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    That little niggle hasn't stopped sales to families, yet.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    Maybe the 2007 full model change will address the tall person market. Till then, I see the CR-V limited leg room upfront as a stealth Pilot sales campaign. :-)
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    I'm 6'6' and there was no way I was fitting in that front seat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Nowak: I had the same problem in the CR-V's front passenger seat. Can't stretch my legs!

    Check out the seat track, if you could get it to move 2-3" farther back there would still be plenty of space in the rear seat.

    They make a 5 seat Element for the JDM? Cool. Do the seats still fold up?

  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    I'm not saying that the CR-V's legroom is plentiful. I just don't see what it has to do with families.

    Juice - Yes, it has a fifth seat between the two rear positions. They make them here in the US, but ship them overseas. I'm not sure how they manage the folding process (whehter it's still a 50/50 split or not), but they do fold.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Not families. Tall parents. :-)

    There is much more rear leg room than there is front leg room in the CR-V. Perhaps the designers were short parents with tall kids?

  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    6 foot 4 inches here and no dice for a CR-V as well.

    CR-Vs are great vehicles - I even put $500 down on one. But once I realized the leg room situation, I had to make another choice.

    It just surprised me when I looked at Edmunds top 10 cars for tall people and the Element was one (and the CR-V is not). They are cars with similar missions. I know the Element is supposed to be for the youth market and the CR-V for families. But they are both less expensive, 4 cylinder, small Honda SUVs. Both compete with say, the RAV 4.

    Perhaps the Element is more of a tall man's car? It does seem to appeal more to men than women. I think we would all agree, men tend to be taller than women.

    My friend has an Element for a 4 person, 1 dog family and it works great. I drove it for a weekend and found I also fit quite well in it.

    it just seems to me that Honda realized the limited front leg room in design for the CR-V and for whatever reason chose not to address it. Figuring perhaps that taller drivers would opt for the Element on a low cost side and the Pilot on the higher end.

    I like the size and styling the CR-V better than both the Element or Pilot, so it is disappointing that it was a non-option.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    CR-V feels bigger than the RAV4, but maybe the Toy's front seat track slides back farther.

    We looked at one closely, also, a CR-V that is. There was the legroom issue and we really prefer a tail gate like the Element has, for shelter from rain.

    A 5 seat Element would make my short list next time around. I like the lower price, the 16" rims, and especially the clam shell tail gate, but I some times need room for 5.

  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    The Element brochure describes the steering wheel as adjustable. Anyone know if this is just tilt or also includes telescope?

  • bshelbshel Posts: 232
    I believe it is tilt only.
  • mcspoomcspoo Posts: 3
    I've been considering trading in my 2001 Escape for an Element. I test drove an Element, but not on the highway. I've never driven anything with a 4-cyl on it, so I'm curious as to if the Element's highway performance is acceptable, or equal, to the Escape.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Element is geared a lot shorter, plus it's a big 4 cylinder (2.4l vs. your 3.0l). So it only has slightly less displacement.

    Also, since the specific output is higher (that's HP/liter), it'll hold its own. The Element is heavier, though, so try one. One thing to look for is highway noise because it will rev higher than you're used to.

    Good luck.

  • ikelimikelim Posts: 4
    I had to take my 2004 LX Element in due to oil leak/spray. Dealer had to change the vtec spool valve filter(gasket). Imagine that! 4,000 miles on Honda and oil leak !!!

    I just hope nothing else will go wrong...otherwise, I love the ride.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    About 20 years ago I read that turning the A/C on briefly once a week would keep the seals lubricated and greatly extend the A/C life. I am glad to see that the Element has automated this process - it is a great idea. I can stop nagging my mom...well, if she ever gets an Element (which is looking more attractive to me, at least, now that I have a baby - there is so much room between the two rows of seats, that a rear facing child seat is not a problem, unlike on many other cars).
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    I've had my EX(S) now for 5 days and absolutely cannot say one bad thing about it. (Does anyone know what the difference between the EX and EXS actually sticker shows it as an EXS?) As for the highway question above, I find it's excellent. Gets up to speed quickly, and passes like a breeze. I was cruising at about 75 (with the cruise control), and in one button press, I quickly got her up to 85 with no problem. Very smooth shifting and no lags in power. City driving is VERY FUN. It rained like mad today in New England, and I drove around hitting every puddle I could find, just to "see", and she stormed right through every one of them like they were not even there. I even tried about 10 times to make the tires spin on the wet pavement from a dead stop, and it was pretty much impossible. Not sure if the AWD kicked in or not, I couldn't feel anything, other than the fact that it gripped the wet road like glue. I'd nail the gas, feel about a 1/2 milisecond slip and then she just takes off like a rocket. I LOVE MY ELEMENT !! I'm 6'3", 210 lbs (male), and I have SO much room in the driver's seat it's amazing. The headroom alone is impressive. My favorite feature by far is the stereo. So with that said, I have noticed zero road-noise on the highway. How could I with bass like that !! CD's sound incredibe. So far, everyone I've shown it to is extremely impressed. Even the one's who hated it. Once they see it up close, and see how big it actually is inside, they quickly change their minds. I was driving a 95 Corolla, and I could not believe that the Element is the exact same length. It blows my mind that it's small, yet incrediby HUGE inside. That means I can park this thing anywhere. The view through the windsheild is amazing, not to mention the view through the driver/passenger windows. Blind spots, yeah they are there, but you just need to "look", no big deal at all. Overall, one week and I can't stop loving the Element.
  • bshelbshel Posts: 232
    the model with side airbags.

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