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Honda Element



  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    Thanks bshel. I knew it was something!! Side airbags makes sense !! I kind of wish the moonroof was "power", so I could open/close/remove while driving... Oh well, MINOR issue...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Don't sweat it ikelim, yours in the first such case and I think it's an anomaly.

  • does any one have any idea what infant car seat that is rear facing fits into the element i am having a hard time finding one. other than that i love my element.
  • pnassmacpnassmac Posts: 37
    makes a model # 8448LSAR we purchased for our newborn that works in the E we recently test-drove.

    We weren't able to try out the base, only the seat and it worked great. Just make sure to pull the seatbelt all the way out and then retract as needed to remove the slack before buckling in the childseat.

    Good Luck!
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    You might want to check out the Child Seats That Fit discussion.

    tidester, host
  • edhedh Posts: 246
    too lazy to read all the posts .
    went to dealer today - they were showing only EXS modles - had 6 of them.
    1. = brochure says a DX exists
    edmunds shows DX LX EX
    whats the actual situation?

    2. Brochure says you can add a comfort package to Dx to give you air and am fm cd. edmunds says no options on DX??? whats right?
  • hal9001hal9001 Posts: 28
    I just went to the Honda website and "built my own" DX. It let me add air conditioning (no mention of a "comfort package") for $1,275
  • edhedh Posts: 246
    when you get AWD do you get another set of CV joint boots to break too? ie is the rear axle IRS and you have boots at the center of the car (2 more boots compared with 2 wd?

    2 wd - 4 boots at the front

    awd - 6 boots - 4 front, 2 at rear????
  • my son is 7 months old and i am looking for a rear facing car seat that fits in the back seat of a honda element
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    I have the Automatic. I would have liked a standard, but to be honest, I don't drive stick all that often, actually never. I drive 50/50 city/highway, and I prefer the automatic so I don't have to "think" about it. I love it. I have no complaints. The shifting is ultra-smooth, you don't even feel it. Zips around town, and suprisingly VERY swift on the highway. Takes of very fast from the line, and has the power to pass efforless on the big roads. I guess it's a matter of preference and driving style.
  • edhedh Posts: 246
    what mileage do you get?
    Consumer reports downgraded the element on gas mileage, said 14 MPG in their city loop (!!) and 20 average.

    what do you get??

    Anyone else??????
  • edhedh Posts: 246
    anyone know what any maint issues are with this All wheel drive?
    is the car FWD with a shaft that goes back? are there CV joints at the back or a solid rear axle?
    If CV joints at the back, how many 2 or 4?
  • Thanks for the info. I'm going to look at one today. The ad price is a few dollars less than 20k for an EX w/ auto, roof rack and splash guard. Seems like a good buy.
  • edhedh Posts: 246
    they called the Goodyear Wrangler HP tires harsh and noisy.

    are there other choices when you buy anew element? or are they all Goodyear?
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48 to go and drive one. Take it on a long test drive and see for yourself. Gas Mileage: I honestly haven't calculated. It wasn't a deciding factor for me whatsoever. I knew it was going to have better than average gas mileage than any other SUV. I was driving a '95 Corolla that got in the mid-30's. Honestly, I'm driving the Element on the same weekly rides to and from work, and I have not filled her up any more than I did with the Corolla. I would guess I'm getting in the low to mid 20's. I do not agree with the 14MPG comment at all. Now, I've seen the "road noise" comment before and now the "tire noise" comment. I don't know what they're talking about. First of all, it's an SUV (mini). Secondly, it's NOT a Lexus, and it's NOT a BMW. What is Car/Driver comparing it to? I have NOT noticed any more "road noise" than a normal car/truck/suv. Now, Honda put an insane stereo system in this thing for a reason, TO LISTEN TO IT!!! I don't know about you guys, but I have never driven in "silence". Who does? My stereo/cd is playing all the time and I think it's one of the best "stock" stereo systems I've ever seen, and I "live, breathe and bleed" music, it's my life. The subwoofer will rock your world. If people are going to be that anal about "noise" then they might have other issues that need addressing. Sure, if you have the windows down, the back windows open, the sunroof off, the stereo off, and you're making zero conversation, then YUP, you're probably gonna hear some noise. I personally wouldn't even make it a "buy or not buy" issue. I don't ever recall Honda advertising it as a "quiet/silent" ride, it's a "FUN RIDE"... As far as the comment of the "tires being harsh and noisy", I don't even know what that means, let alone try to answer it. Lastly, my personal choice for this vehicle was one simple question. Am I going to utilize it for what it can offer me? YES. I camp, I go to weekend-long music festivals, I road-trip a lot, I have a dog, I can tend to be messy in the car (spilled drinks, crumbs, dog hair, etc...) thus I love the easy-clean up interior... I live in New snows a lot in New England... I liked the NOT full-time AWD idea (My understanding is that it only turns on when you need it and does not remain on), I like the seating/cargo options, this thing is so much bigger inside than it looks, I'm 6'2" and have more than enough room in the front and the back, I love it's looks, I love the "stares" I get around town and on the road, I love the standard options on mine (Cruise/AC/ABS/Front-Side Airbags, sunroof, stereo, real-time AWD, etc, etc..) So, I just asked myself some questions, and it was a good fit for me. For other people, it may not be the vehicle for them. So, I'll repeat, go take one on a LONG test ride and decide for yourself. I would also suggest not wrapping yourself up with the little things, every vehicle is going to have something that someone doesn't like. If that were the case, we'd all be driving the exact same vehicle. Life's too short to worry...and's just a CAR!! (...or SUV, or Baby SUV, or Mini Suv, or milk-truck on wheels, or Elephant... whatever you want to call it)
  • lalagimplalagimp Posts: 61
    Agh I love my honda. I've been pining for 2 weeks that I need my Element back. It has so much comfort to me now over normal compact and midsize cars/coupes.(I've got a bad leg, getting in and out of low vehicles is a bit annoying)
    I can see everything in it with less blindspots than my stratus.
    I should have it back midweek. feels like an enternity.
    I have become very attached to my car.
    Rear ending someone can cost you though a new radiator and relay, fan shroud, stuff like that approx. $2000.
    The damage to the compact sedan wasn't visibly bad at all.
    This car is very safe for us and my companion vehicle.
  • edhedh Posts: 246
    is the left leg foot room a problem?
    I test drove an element this week and that seemed a possible issue. I also drove a CRV and can not remember if the CRV had a pinched in left foot area too.
    The salesman also said the crv was on a civic frame and the element on an accord frame ???? i have read otherwise which is right.??
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    Has the Accord engine on the Civic/CRV platform.
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    I'm 6'2" and I rave about the amount of driver's side legroom. I have no problems. My left leg has more than enough room. I can either stretch it all the way to the floor, or I can keep my knee bent and up further back on the mats. I've actually never seen a complaint about the legroom, only positive comments.
  • Got one yesterday and it's an automatic! Thanks, ztorin. Just love the ride. Much peppier and quieter than I had expected. We're going to take a long ride to day and I just can't wait.

    It was the best car deal for me ever. After a few weeks of checking around, the best one was around 20.5k for a plain EX. I paid $19,990 for an EX Silver with: roof rack, security system, floor mats, splash guards, theft ID (?) and few others extras. Very nice.

    I'm planning to turn it into my second home. With my portable DVD player, Ipod, sleeping bag, stuffed cooler, I could live pretty comfortable in there.

    My five-year-old daughter was so thrilled. She named the thing Hippo and that what we will call the E from now on.

    Got to go. See you guys.

    PS: I need some info on rear hitch for my bike rack. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    That's great Dervishhenry!! Congratulations. I agree with you on how "peppy" it is, and I'm very glad you said "Much quieter than I expected" (more people need to back that up). Sounds like you got a great deal too, with some nice extras. And yes, you COULD live in there !! I hope you and your daughter really enjoy it as much as most of us enjoy ours. Your IPOD should sound amazing through that stereo, eh??? Well, it's in the mid 70's today in Boston, and I'm about to take her for a ride with my Mom, who has yet to ride inside of it.
    Hippo sounds like a great name, we've yet to name ours. Good luck with it !!
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Edh - The Element and CR-V are both built on the global small car platform. This is the same platform used for the Civic, RSX, a small minivan called the Stream, and several other Honda models. The 2.4L engine in the CR-V, Accord, Element, and Acura TSX are all related. Based on it's power output, it appears that the Element uses exactly the same tuning as the Accord. The RT4WD system is a FWD-biased design with a prop shaft powering the rear differential. The rear diff sends power to the wheels via two halfshafts. The suspension is a compact double wishbone design. Maintenance is limited to changing the differential fluid every 40-50K miles.

    For more information about the system, try reading this thread.

    varmint "Honda CR-V Owners: FAQ" Dec 3, 2003 2:17pm
  • lalagimplalagimp Posts: 61
    I don't have any leg room issue at all in my Element where I feel that I do in other vehicles, typically coupes. I am 5'2" and my husband is 6'3". He says he has no problem getting around in the Element; but I worry about if the car is ever hit hard enough, any certain way- how easy it might seem to break his chins because of where the bottom dash sits against his legs.
    He hasn't complained- I only get concerned. But that's me.

    I'd heard that the Element is on the CRV frame frame actually. hmmm
  • edhedh Posts: 246
    varmit the info was great.
    I am not in snow country and the rtawd looks mechanically much more complicated than the 2 wheel drive.
    Just the 4 cv joints in the back will be an expense item all the boots break after about 5 years.
    local dealer has 15 elements, 7 are 2wd
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Henry's Hippy, congrats!

    Your boots should last longer than 5 years. We did have one axle boot tear on our 626, but even that car was 7 years old by that time. Honda might be using better quality rubber, also.

    I wouldn't lose sleep over stuff like that.

  • hal9001hal9001 Posts: 28
    Outboard boots on the front have a much more difficult life than other boots because they have to stretch and compress to a much greater extent due to the large angles generated (in the CV joint) during steering at full lock. The inboard fronts are partially sheltered from road debris due to their location in back of the engine and their flexing is limited to a small arc generated by the travel of the front suspension.
    The rear boots are similar to the front inboard boots in that small amounts of flex are caused only by the suspension travel.
    On my car(s) I use a silicone spray on the boots to help protect them.
  • ikelimikelim Posts: 4
    My Element LX is still dripping oil from somewhere from the engine. As I posted earlier, the dealer had to replace vtec Spool Valve gasket (filter) due to a leak/spray. 2/1/2 weeks later, I can still see oil dripping though not as much.

    I am going to take the car in to another dealer tomorrow.

    I wish I was euphoric with my Element like some of the messages on this board. Now, I am beginning to get pissed off/worried...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Check the oil filter. NHTSA has 7 reports of engine fire with the CR-V's 2.4l due to something exceedingly simple - the oil filter gasket.

    Seems the old one tends to stick on, and if the service tech misses it, and uses two, the seal can leak. The oil drips on to hot exhaust parts and it's a Texas BBQ.

  • edhedh Posts: 246
    vtec Spool Valve gasket (filter)
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    No one posted today?? I feel obligated now. I do have a couple things to say/ask. First, to all the Element owners, do your front/passenger headrests only "lock" when they are in the highest position? Let me explain. From the lowest position, it doesn't "lock" in place until it gets to the next position? Not really a concern, I just wanted to see if it was across the board. Next, I haven't actually "Washed" mine yet, and I have some questions. I bought that Mr.Clean AutoDry kit that I've seen advertised. I haven't used it yet, but has anyone tried it ?? I know Motor Trend endorses it, and supposedly the whole concept stems from the water filter as it de-ionizes the water, which is why it doesn't "spot". Curious to know if anyone's had luck with it. Do you guys have suggestions for the following (SPECIFIC TO THE ELEMENT ONLY): Exterior car wash, car wax, tire cleaner, wheel cleaner, interior cleaners, glass cleaner, etc, etc... You get the picture. I haven't actually paid attention to washing my old Corolla, since there was really no point, so I don't know what the really good products are and I want to keep my Element in tip-top shape. So, any suggestions for cleaners SPECIFIC TO THE ELEMENT ONLY (since the interior materials are quite different than a normal vehicle). What about the composite body panels ?? Will car wax affect them if it accidently rubs onto them? Any thoughts, suggestions will benefit me and most likely the rest of the forum.
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