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VW Touareg SUV



  • The V10 will give you in the 20s for fuel economy. BUT it comes at a 57K base price according to links from the Detroit Auto show.
  • spockcatspockcat Posts: 100
    Both have been done. Here is a link to how it is done:
  • ann50ann50 Posts: 4
    To bulsara. Sorry to have been so long writing back. The changer I got from Tweeter was Alpine CHM-S630. it is about a quarter inch longer than it should be so you might see if they have one just a little shorter or maybe they can put it in better than I did. I had bought a panasonic and could not find the connector. Tweeter said they could order one but had the Alpine and appropriate connector in stock. I looked at it initially and estimated I could put it in in about 5 minutes. The changer case in the back was just a little too short and some of the padding stuck over it. I didn't want to injure or change anything so took the shelf out and made it fit my changer. This required taking off one side bar. it fits fine, works perfectly, and I have had no problem. You might measure for real before buying one, but Tweeter says you can bring it back if you keep the carton. The whole thing was just at $300. there are cheaper changers which work just as well. I have several of them.

    A note to everyone else: VW changed my engine at 1620 miles. No hassle. it was their idea rather than attempt to evaluate or repair. I really don't know what the final verdict was as to the injury. My car runs perfectly, everything, including all electronic. the serial number is just above 23xx. it is on the dash at the end of the series. The only problem I have is splitting of the wood dash where the wood was bent by the manufacturer. VW acknowledges it and is going to change it. I love this car. I am sorry there are so many complaints. my friends with the comparable Lexus, Infinity, Benz or BMW have had more problems and have generally acknowledged a lesser car. it seems I have a pretty responsive dealer. less than 10 days over the Thanksgiving holidays to ship the engine from Germany and get it in. the car has not been back since. I will probably never see any depreciation of its value due to the engine change, because I am going to keep it for a long while. I maintain it is the best driving vehicle on the road.
  • bulsarabulsara Posts: 21
    Thanks for the reply...I see you're in Dallas too. Which Tweeter did you go to?...and who is your VW dealer who did the engine change?

    Mine runs great...but just for future knowledge.


    Cy Bulsara
  • spockcatspockcat Posts: 100
    Unless the dealer wants 2x or 3x the price of an aftermarket changer, I can't see why you would want to use an aftermarket changer.

    Best is to negotiate the price of the changer right in with the car (if it doesn't come standard) and confirm it will be covered by the full warranty.

    An aftermarket changer will not be covered by as good a warranty as the changer. You may end up needing a second one in a couple of years should it fail after the warranty runs out.

    I actually tried a CD/MP3 changer in my Touareg from SSI America. They use a NEO box converter. I had lots of problems with it. I even visited the company on Long Island. They still couldn't get it to work correctly with the Touareg. I finally returned it for a refund.
  • rower2rower2 Posts: 22
    I had my touareg in low this morning. It was 4 degrees out and when I got onto the highway, it wouldn't go over 50mph. I had to pull off and put it back in high and then it ran fine. I've had it in low before without a problem. Could this be a weather related thing or is this something I should get checked out?
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    Should you be driving on the highway in Low? Typically 4wd low is meant for under 25 MPH.
  • hiflyerhiflyer Posts: 79
    I believe low gear (or some contol that one engages) limits speed to 45 mph as a safety feature for off-roading.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    Most low ranges multiply the drive ratio/gearing in the 25 MPH is like 50 MPH in engine speed. I am not sure how the VW low works, but for example the drive ratio in my Isuzu Trooper is multiplied by 2.48:1 when in low range. Anything above 15/20 MPH is like shifting into 2nd gear at 50. So it isn't limited for safety feature (except maybe to protect the drivetrain from falling out), but rather it is designed to deliver 2 times or some multiple of truck power to provide better offroad performance or maybe boat ramp towing.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    We now have a Problems discussion so if you have a specific issue with your Touareg (and even better, a suggested fix), please report on it in there. Thanks, here's the link:

    VW Touareg: Problems & Solutions

    Steve, Host
  • jpvwaudijpvwaudi Posts: 139
    You can't go over 50 in low. Thats why its called LOW. Its for the really soupy stuff....
  • brundogbrundog Posts: 13
    Subject says it all.

    I think this is printed in the manual. And if I recall correctly it even states that the max speed varies in this mode between 45 and 60 depending on the engine, though it doesn't clarify which does what.

    Besides, you probably shouldn't drive on the highway in LOW. Otherwise it would be called the lowway...

  • rower2rower2 Posts: 22
    This is where the dealers need to get their facts straight. I admit that I did not read the manual so shame on me. He told me that I could ride in low on the highway and the big difference is the gas mileage. The last time I had it in low there was so much snow on the highway that I don't think I took it over 40. So today, I'll sit and read through the whole manual. Thanks for the info.
  • bulsarabulsara Posts: 21
    One should never exceed 40-45mph in LOW even on a highway, that is ice/snowbound. It will damage your differential. LOW is mainly for off-road driving, at around 20-35mph in difficult terrain.

    Please read your manual thoroughly and watch the VHS tape that came along with your T-Reg.
    It's really informative about this stuff.

  • roweerowee Posts: 21
    Just started driving my new (>;#25000 )2.5 TDI(not sold in North America). Drove off-road via high mud and crossed some swamps.Folowed the manual carefully: raised the car to Extra-Max (58cm.)+LOW gear.Did not need to lock any of the differentals.Engine did not get wet(except for lower part)Water did not enter passenger cabin(checked floor mats and under for humidity)
    Generally very happy with decision.Torqe of this engine much better than V-6(whom I find very sluggish to say the least!)but not as good as the V-8(i can not afford it)
    found no problems mentioned on this site;no wistle sound from roof area(i have the "spoiler" put close to each ather) no seat belt buzz when car is not in motion(buzz starts only at a certain speed)no problem closing rear door and hatch.
    drive on high way(in "sport" mode-as opposed to "comfort" mode) is very smoth and cost efficient.In urban driving with bad road surface use "comfort" mode for extra cushion.
    so far (1,500 K) can report only a slightly demaged cup holder(near the gear shift)and a few scraps found on the door wood panel(cherry) done probebly by the local dealer when prepering the car for delivery.
    Thats all for now; had i followed the complaints on this site(i have been reading it since July 03) i would most probably not have chosen to order this car, but i did follow several leads of European origin who spoke more positive will report again if any new problems show up.
  • nazcanazca Posts: 2
    Nice to hear you are pleased with your 2.5 TDI. I just ordered one in the UK and I'm looking forward to getting it.

    Shame these are not available in the US, but I suppose you can't blame the Americans for driving cars running on petrol with it being so cheap over there...

    I have test-driven it and I was very impressed by the refinement of the diesel engine after also test-driving the diesel versions of the Mercedes ML, the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Volvo XC90 which sounded quite tractor-like.

    I was also very impressed by the interior which blows away anything else I saw in its class.
  • roweerowee Posts: 21
    Well, these Americans driving petrol will soon be driving the finest T-reg of all;THE V-10! And they most probably will be paying for this super car less than us Europeans are paying now for the V-8.(not to mention the cost of Diesel at the u. s. gas stations).
    I have also test driven the xc90(volvo) T6(petrol)and diesel, the Toyota Lend cruiser, the ML,the Range Rover. The only suv superior to
    the T-reg was the Range Rover.Incidently, local VW agent claims there are no more 2.5TDI`s to be ordered till 2005(Aug 04).Do you consider that claim valid based on whats going on in the u.k. market?
  • nazcanazca Posts: 2
    I guess the availability of specific models will depend on your particular market and the number of units assigned to it.

    In the UK the waiting times are about 5-6 months at the moment, as far as I am aware. Crazy, when in the US you can just walk into a dealership and choose your car right then and there if you want to!

    In the UK VW is selling the Touareg through a small number of dealerships in order to enhance the impression of exclusivity and luxury it would like to promote. I suppose only time will tell if this strategy will work.
  • While it is true that here in the US -- at German car dealerships, VW, Audi and BMW in particular -- you can walk in and choose from a large inventory of cars -- it is, for most of the people I know, still impossible to get exactly what you want unless you order it.

    For example, it is rare to be able to find one of these fine cars (or SUV's) highly optioned and with a stick shift. Or it is difficult to find the options and color combinations you want "in stock."

    Most of the people I know lease their cars for equal to or less than 39 months. Why would anyone settle for what is on the lot if it were NOT exactly what you want and then keep it for 3 years?

    The folks that I know simply end up ordering their cars -- and I know that this is apparently the minority operating procedure.

    5 or 6 months to get EXACTLY the car that I want is no big deal. Looking over what is now apparently a growing inventory of Touaregs (and having spent some time on the VW configurator), I still don't see any combination of Touareg colors and options that would match my wants/needs (unless I wanted Black, apparently).

    To this day, one of the coolest cars that we could acquire in the US, a Passat W8 6spd with sport package apparently does not exist at any VW dealer within reasonable driving distance from Cincinnati -- heck, the VW dealer nearest to me rarely has more than one W8, and even then, keeps it in the back of the lot, as if he doesn't want customers to discover it.

    I, for ONE -- and I do mean 1 -- would love to exclusively order cars; after all they are the second most important purchase we make. Most of us spend big bucks to customize our houses, apartments, condos etc., and many of us build new homes every year so that we can get them as we want them (and, when I had my house built, it took over 6 months).

    We have become a consumer of $50,000 cars "on impulse" society at least it seems this way at times.
  • mmee1mmee1 Posts: 19
    I'm 3 weeks into my Touareg ownership and I think it is an incredible vehicle. Drove straight from the dealer to the Sierras where it snowed for a week. Tiptronics in the snow and it feels like its on rails. I punched out of 3 feet of snow overnight like it was shaking off a couple inches. All done while I enjoy the interior of any luxury sedan I've been in.

    Regarding postings about price. If you want an Accord, call every dealer within 200 miles, but for this vehicle, you better find someone who really knows what they are talking about. I found an extremely knowledgeable contact at Bob Lewis VW in San Jose, CA. He picked my family and me up at the airport in holiday traffic, took us to the dealership, we had already agreed on a fair price and I have the comfort of knowing the vehicle is prefect or he will make it so.

    Couple things I have not heard mentioned here. The rain sensing windshield wipers are incredible. No more constant adjusting through showers. The sound systems adjusts slightly for higher speed. I went to turn down the radio as I exited the freeway and it was doing it ahead of me. The tan interior has a beautiful chocolate brown dash and steering wheel.

    Word on tires. Consumer Reports (January 2004) has a good article on wheels, "When less in more". It shows snow performance dropping off significantly when you move from 16" to an 18" wheels. Even more for the 19". If you are using your vehicle in the snow, something to think about.
  • I ordered my T-reg in the third week of Oct 2003 and it's here. Took three months to the west coast. Depending on how quickly the order is filled (function of the exact model/config one orders), luck in the timing of shipping and trucking, and one's location in the US, it'll take from 2 -4 months for one's car to get here.

    I agree completely about the $50K impulse-buy observation.

    mmee1: nice post! I hope to be joining the happy T-reg crowd soon.
  • 1257212572 Posts: 7
    I am hooked! Currently drive an Audi A6 2.7t. Have been reading the posts here and thought why not?. Drove the V8 and V6. The V8 has a lot of power and the engine note was pure music. The V6 IS a little slower off the line. Now, I am not one who races around, although did kick up those bi turbos on the Audi on occasions. Would like to hear from folks with V6- are you happy with acceleration on an everyday basis? I am not going to race or drop it in 24" of water or climb rocks. Please comment.
    MR in Indy
  • jpvwaudijpvwaudi Posts: 139
    The V8 is a rocket, however if you're not an aggressive driver, the 6 is plenty. I think its definately peppier than a 6 cyl Grand Cherokee or Explorer. Evaluate your needs; you'll get a better discount on a 6, too.
  • I have 4900 miles on my V-6, and can say that it has plenty of pep for average driving. I live in a hilly area in No. Cal, and it gets around just fine. I find that when I'm getting on the highways, I either go into tiptronic and shift through the gears, or use the "S" position. In any event, I'm at 80 MPH and passing just about everyone else with no trouble. You will have to use the gears a little more, I imagine, than if you had the V-8, which you could just leave in drive and floor it. But, half the fun is working the gears. The car handles great on winding roads. I test drove the 8 first, and will admit that it was much faster. But, in the end, I didn't really need the additional power. I just need to get in and out of the snow, which the 6 does just fine.
  • I have had my Touareg for two months now and have put 4000 miles on it. This car has been nothing but a joy to drive. me and my wife commute to work together and when we bought this car we were just going to use it for the weekends. well our BMW 325i wagon has sat in the same spot since we brought the rag home. it's comfortable responsive peppy and just fun to drive. we do on occasion here a whistle sound at hi speeds ( 80 + miles per hour) but such is life. We found if you roll the window down then up it stops. But I wouldn't call it a complaint, we love the car to much. If you are considering a purchase ignore the na sayers and get one now . Im sure you wont regret it.
  • I have had a 6 for just over 3 weeks, I went to the dealer planning to drive both the 6 and the 8, but after driving the 6 I was convinced it was enough. I have a bass boat and jet ski that I have to use a 4 wheel drive vehicle to take in and out of the lake behind my house. It has worked perfectly so far.

  • elemintelemint Posts: 79
    Why the hell is there no 2.5TDI in the states????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This really pisses me off. I would by this car today if they made the 2.5TDI here in the states. Not only is it disapointing for a potential buyer but irresponsible in a conservation sense!! Look at the NUMBERS!!

    Fuel Consumption
        Urban 21.4mpg - 13.2l/100km
        Extra-urban 36.2mpg - 7.8l/100km
        Combined 28.2mpg - 9.8l/100km
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    I think there are more dignified ways of expressing frustration and they would be more appealing to our general readership.

    tidester, host
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    First of all, there is a huge, and I mean HUGE, prejudice in the US v. Diesel..."Oh! it smells bad, all that black smoke, and it is soooo noisy."

    Very unsophisticated, Americans are when it comes to this technology...Even the Feds are throwing one billion USD @ Hydrogen...Any idea just how much energy it would take to produce a usable quantity of hydrogen? And, where does it get stored @ -425 degrees? Diesel technology has been thoroughly embraced in Europe...1.0L TDIs getting in excess of 100 MPG. In 2006 all sulpher will have been removed from our diesel fuel, and we will have ALL of our TDIs here...

    But, we will still have spent all of that money on hydrogen...Go figure!!!!!!!!!!!
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Any idea just how much energy it would take to produce a usable quantity of hydrogen?

    Yes. The energy cost is ZERO if you use solar energy to generate the electricity to separate the hydrogen from H2O. Wind power, hydroelectricity and nuclear energy would also offer viable options.

    And, where does it get stored @ -425 degrees?

    Why would anyone store H2 cryogenically when it's totally unnecessary? All you need to do for automotive purposes is store it at modest pressure or in combination with an adsorbing material such as platinum. We aren't talking about rockets that require the highest density of hydrogen they can get.

    tidester, host
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