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BMW 6-Series



  • has anyone had trouble with the battery in the 645ci draining while the car is turned off? mine's been in the shop for a week. service says that something in the electrical system is spiking when the car is off and that's empyting the battery...but, they can't figure out what it is. sound familiar to anyone?
  • There have been a number of problems with the electrical system and discharged batteries in the 645. Some of these problems have been dealt with in software updates.

    For a thorough discussion of this problem and how others have dealt with it I suggest you visit and go to their message board for the BMW 645. Search for battery or electrical problems.
  • scsscs Posts: 1
    go to roadfly forum. Someone named kathyO had this problem. BMWNA has replaced her car.
  • robertdrobertd Posts: 1
    Please discuss European Delivery with your dealership if you are interested - I would recommend it to anyone (a couple of good reasons being the 7% price reduction and the ability to drive your new car on the best roads in the world with no speed limit).

    I just returned from picking up my car in Munich in August 2004. I drove it for a week and dropped it off in Paris. It is being shipped back to my dealership.

    Please see for more info on 6 (and 5) series Euro Delivery. The BMW web site has a good intro on Euro Delivery as well.

  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    There is also a Euro Delivery Forum here.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,595
    Thanks for mentioning that Paul.

    Here's the link to the Edmunds forum on this subject:

    BMW Owners: European Delivery Forum

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  • patellipatelli Posts: 24
    Does anyone know where I can get the ED invoice pricing for a 645? doesnt post them anymore.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,741
    We aren't allowed to link other forums here.. but, if you google for other BMW forums, there are only about 2-3 that get a lot of traffic.. you could probably find the info there.



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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,741
    The only difference in US and ED is the base price.... all options are the same either way..

    ED base MSRP is $4895 less than US base MSRP

    ED base invoice is $4635 less than US base invoice

    Hope this helps,


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  • I have a 645Cic. My iDive has had multiple meltdowns. Sometimes it would not go on, other times it would freeze on a screen. Then the window sensors for going up and down stopped working and the phone has been intermittent. It has been to the dealer 4 times the last time for 10 days waiting of the BMWNA rep to look at the car. They replaced they said the main computer that runs 5 other systems. So far it's good. Has anyone else had this problem? If so how has your resolution to it been.
  • I have a 645Cic. Wne ever I turn into a driveway where one front tire goes up before the other, i.e. on a diagonal. I get a horrble creaking sound for the center dash and engine bay that sounds like the car is twisting although it is louder then that, like if you were cracking your knuckes but much louder and much deeper, like the sound a tree makes when it is cut down, that crack before it falls. Anyone else have this? Is it just the poor rigidity of the car or do you this it is something worse?
  • Any significant changes from 2004 to 2005 model years?

  • My radio has continued to play a couple of times after I've turned the car off and gotten out. Have been told it is a "programming issue". Anybody else had that?
  • Just received verification for PC delivery (10-8).
    Should be an interesting experience.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,741
    Nice.. I haven't done that.. but, I recommend the factory tour and the museum.. Not much to the museum, but what they do have is interesting.


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  • Yes I have had that several times. I ended up having to have the master computer system replaced at 1800 miles. Have you had any problems with the nav system freezing or not being able to get signal strength when the cell phone is in the cradle, these were other problems I encounterred.
  • have a 645Cic convert. My iDive has had multiple shutdowns, though the car is wonderful to drive its electronic system is the worst since my 89 rover. Some Highlights
    Battery Dead three times for no reason
    Idrive crashes at least 3 times a week
    Dashboard lights do not go on
    Harzard message that steering has failed 2x had to be towed
    total miles 4,800

    Dealer just re programmed the car and replaced the I drive again, lets see what happends. Shame BMW had to ruin a good thing
  • I had a problem with the i-drive gremlins, too. The i-drive would periodically lock up temporarily and then return back to normal overnight. The service people spent some time doing a complete diagnostic on it and reprogrammed the software. Time will tell if the reprogramming will work. Will let you know in a few weeks.
  • gerger Posts: 1
    I have a 2004 645ci which get very hot around front kidney and hood area. Can anyone advise....
  • nuievenuieve Posts: 43
    I just did a search on used BMW 6, there are some excellent condition 2004 cars with just 200 miles going for as low as 15k in my area. Some for 30k. What's the catch? To good to be true...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,741
    One word: SCAM

    It will turn out to be "overseas".. Please send a deposit Western Union, etc..


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  • I read your post and got curious about mine. I had driven for about 1 hour on the autobahn then for about 10 minutes around town in the evening. Ambient temperature was about 65 degrees and dry. I pulled the car into the garage and felt around the front of the car as I was cleaning off the bugs. The hood and kidney area were warm only. A very hot front end does not sound normal to me unless, perhaps, you are in a very hot, sunny climate.
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    can anyone tell me how much am i looking forward to spend for a new 645ci convertible?
    is it possible to get one under msrp?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,595
    You should use the Edmunds's Pricing System. Click on "new cars" up top of this page and follow the directions. It'll give you a "build sheet" for all the options you want, and a "target price" to negotiate for.

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  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    i tried edmunds pricing system, but sadly it didnt help much, the tmv always shows same numbers as msrp
    i tried the same system for an m3 and the result: well, also msrp for tmv, but i checked dealers manually and they gave me a quote of $2k over invoice.
    any other way to get a price? dealers insist on sticker
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,595
    WEll what that means is that no one buying a 6 series has been able to bargain under invoice at this point, and that dealers are selling above invoice.

    Did you try faxing various dealers in your area and making an offer for a certain car with all options you want?

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  • bjrbjr Posts: 3
    What year is your car?
  • bjrbjr Posts: 3
    I agree that BMW color options are few. How can you offer only a black and grey top without offering grey interior. I personally would like a White with grey interior and a grey top. BMW individualist can't do it either.
  • bjrbjr Posts: 3
    The interior colors are maroon, black, and cream. I tried to order a white with grey interior and the grey top but no luck. Tried to go thru bmw individual where you can custom make the paint color or the interior but no luck.
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