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  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,565
    For me, the E-type coupe matches that design type best.

    Not a really obscure car, but the family members I am visiting right now have a teenage son with a 92 Corsica that was gifted to him. 90K miles, maybe 80% of the paint still on the car, didn't age well but apparently runs OK. I am trying to talk him into making some kind of blacked out bomber out of it.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 11,108
    We had a '90 Corsica that sat out all the time, but apparently it was a color (charcoal metallic) that didn't have the paint issue. I've seen plenty that did though of course.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 11,108
    edited October 2013
    I've wondered if the Corsica paint issue was limited to one plant or not. Virtually all that dealers around here got were built in Wilmington, DE, but ours was built in Linden, NJ for some reason. It was a stick and maybe that was the difference in assembly locations, who knows.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,490
    I've always remembered that and to this day, when I see other cars with a pronounced curve or arch over the front wheel opening (I'm thinking some RX-7's were like that), I think of that name.

    I guess perverted minds think alike! FWIW, for awhile I was thinking the same thing of much of Mazda's current lineup. Although to keep it a bit more G-rated, they were also making me think of a handpuppet shaped like a snake. Especially something like a Mazda 3 with that big, gaping mouth of an air intake. I do like the more recent Mazdas though, with the more trapezoidal grille. A bit more sexy, rather than sex-shop!
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,565
    This car is dark blue, 3.1 automatic. Maybe I'll snoop around it and see where it was built. The area I am in is dry and sunny most of the year, which might not help the paint. The kid doesn't like the car - but he spends all the money he makes on other things, so that's how it goes.
  • texasestexases Posts: 8,812
    Passed a W124 coupe on the way to work, see a lot more sedans:
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    (the one I saw was a E300, of course)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 23,292
    The paint problem in that era sourced to the supplier IIRC. The paints originally used something like a primer, then a coat to have the color layer stick to the primer, then the color layer. IIRC the supplier said they had a primer and color layer where only two layers were needed. And it didn't work well in some cases.

    I don't believe they were using a topcoat at that time.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,565
    You can simply touch the paint in some areas, and it literally falls right off. Sure, it is a 20 year old car exposed to the elements, but it still looks bad. You're right, it's like the paint doesn't stick.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,565
    Sedans probably sold 10:1 or more, so coupes are rare.

    That lowline E200 would have been something, looks like it even might have a cloth interior.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 23,292
    I believe the supplier helped pay part of the repairs to the paint for a time. I heard some dealers were more open to helping pick up some of the cost of repair for known customers--sort of like certain foreign brands did in the good old days. The first sign was a little spot smaller than a dime coming loose just like there was silicone from wax causing it not to stick.

    The paint used probably varied with the color as well as with the plant and whether it was being updated with the water-based paints for the future or being phased. Pollution requirements of the environs where the plant was located also played a part.

    Despite the errors on the part of the chemists at the paint companies, the car companies caught the crap for the problem.

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 11,108
    A guy I worked with had an awful bright blue '92 Corsica that started doing this in the first three years or so. His dealer did repaint the car, but was sloppy (IMHO) about placement of the nameplates on the car, which is a thing that I'm absolutely psychotic about on a car and I see great paintwork on cars daily with emblems in the wrong place. Isn't the idea of good bodywork so that no one can tell? LOL

    I told the fellow who restored my white Lark that I was a nutcase about this and those individual "LARK" letters on the front fenders better be in the right place. He laughed. They were perfect when I got the car back.
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 10,200
    It did seem to vary by color. Some Dodge/Plymouth Neons painted in the bright pastel shades they offered had the paint peel off in sheets. OTOH, two neighbors had identical Neons in the ubiquitous dark blue/green/teal metallic that about half of all of them came in and neither had paint problems.

    Writing this post I just realized that I almost never see 1st-gen Neons on the road any more. They used to be everywhere not long ago.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,565
    I saw this piece of the 80s today - other than the cheapo hubcaps, it was pristine:

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    Saw a MB W116 that looked like it was doing duty as an oversized load pilot car, what I think was a late 50s Triumph TR-10 sedan, and speaking of early Neons, a decent enough looking coupe.
  • berriberri Posts: 9,866
    Hey Fin, I actually liked the looks of those Mopar GTS cars when they came out and still think it's the best looking of all the K car based vehicles they produced. IIRC there was a Chrysler and a Dodge version.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,490
    Those are actually my favorite K-derivatives, too. I think Chrysler called them the H-body, but can't remember now. The Chrysler version was LeBaron GTS and the Dodge was the Lancer. There was no Plymouth version.

    They actually got pretty good press for the time. I remember some reviewer calling them "What the Tempo and Topaz SHOULD have been!" Although those commercials where they played "Over There" and tried to position these cars as fighting off the premium German cars of the era might have been a bit too ambitious...

    Oh, I saw a Dodge Dynasty today, on the DC Beltway. One thing that really struck me as how TINY the car looked, in today's traffic. And that wasn't just because it was behind a semi, and I was in my Ram. At one point, a newer (but not the latest iteration) Beetle was beside it, and I swear the Beetle made it look small!
  • berriberri Posts: 9,866
    Dodge Dynasty - now that's "square"!
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,490
    Dodge Dynasty - now that's "square"!

    I had to laugh too, because the driver reminded me a bit of the mother of a girl I used to date back in college. And she made me think of that old joke, that went along the lines of, "You might be a redneck if your mother doesn't need to remove the Marlboro from her lips before telling the State Trooper to kiss her hoo-hah!"

    Back in those days though, her mother drove a '71 or so Lincoln 4-door, green, pretty beat up. The girl I dated drove a black Olds 98 4-door sedan...either a '78 or '79, with a 403.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 11,108
    I liked those Lancers and GTS sedans too, especially the black, upper-model ones with the gold pinstripe and 'swiss-cheese' aluminum wheels. My best man was a zone Service Rep for Chrysler in Pittsburgh, then in WV, at the time and he always had two cars on order at all times, since he put so many miles on them.

    He was the guy who said that AMC built Fifth Avenues better than Chrysler did! ;)

    Back to the Lancer/GTS--I never liked two vent windows up against each other, though. Ford always seemed to do that.
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,306
    edited October 2013
    grbeck called me and told me the parking area was like a swamp. I wasn't planning on going anyway, especially with the weather like that.

    The only car-related thing I did this weekend was take my DTS to the Cadillac dealer for state emissions/inspection and an oil and filter change before I put it away for the winter. I was looking at a loaded XTS-4 in the showroom. MSRP was $71K! Yikes!
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,306
    I think of Dirk Diggler's ride from "Boogie Nights" when I think about that era Corvettes. The car was pretty beat by the end of the movie when Wahlberg's character was spiralling down the drain.

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  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,306
    I recall guy who was getting his Cadillac Brougham repainted asking me for the measurements for the namplate locations on my car since it's all original.
  • texasestexases Posts: 8,812
    " His dealer did repaint the car, but was sloppy (IMHO) about placement of the nameplates on the car, which is a thing that I'm absolutely psychotic about on a car and I see great paintwork on cars daily with emblems in the wrong place."

    I think Honda just recalled a number of Odyssey minivans because the rear name plate was in the wrong place, Honda didn't want the owners penalized by the appearance the van had been in an accident.
  • berriberri Posts: 9,866
    Do you remember there was a short-lived stretched K car called the Plymouth Caravelle or something like that?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,565
    edited October 2013
    It was also badged Dodge 600 and Chrysler E-Class. Funny, as the 600 badge very much resembled a MB badging, and the E-Class maybe was a premonition of the "merger of equals" coming in another 15 years.

    My uncle had an E-class, I remember it had one of those lucite/plexiglass hood ornaments that interested me when I was a kid:

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    Funny memory of the Caravelle - when I was a kid, I already knew what a Renault Caravelle was, as there was one in my town. I saw a Plymouth Caravelle, and assumed it had some kind of French connection, I guessed it was a Canadian model.
  • berriberri Posts: 9,866
    I remember the Renault Caravelle. It was a decent looking Karman Ghia competitor. I don't think they sold many here though. Probably because of the poor reliability of the Dauphine.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,490
    Yeah, the 103.3" wheelbase E-Class, 600, and New Yorker came out for 1983. I think the E-Class was supposed to be sort of a replacement for the old Newport...a car for those who wanted something New Yorker sized, but less luxurious. It wasn't a very hot seller though, so for 1985 they rebadged it as a Plymouth Caravelle, and it was sold through 1988. It didn't sell much better as a Caravelle, though. They only sold around 30-40K per year for the most part, down to around 15K in 1988.

    For 1989, it was replaced by the Plymouth Acclaim. The 600 was replaced by the Dodge Spirit. The Dynasty-style New Yorker had come out for 1988, but I believe they held the older style over as well that year, and offered it only with the turbo. I think 1988 was the last year of the LeBaron GTS and Dodge Lancer, as well.
  • cooterbfdcooterbfd Posts: 2,770
    GOD!!! It rained for like 26 hrs solid, from 2pm Thurs to 4pm Fri. Prior to, and after that, it was on and off showers. Harrisburg had over 9 inches of rain. There were sinkholes in Palmyra. The Hershey HS baseball field was completely submerged in like 5 ft of water.
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 8,396
    My Stepdad had an 83 E-class with the Mitsu 2.6. It wasn't a bad car, I actually learned to drive on it. We got rid of it around 1996 and we saw it around town for years after.

    The best part about that car was of course the fact that it talked!.....

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 110,434
    The best part about that car was of course the fact that it talked!.....

    The one that tried to tell everyone that it was able to transform a solid object into another?

    "Your door is a jar"

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 8,396
    That's the one! Little known fact, there is a hidden switch up behind the glovebox on old Mopars to shut it off.

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