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  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,543
    Of all the ones to restore. Money would have been better spent on a 220SE or 300SE - at least then you can ship it to Europe and get something for it, they love the FI models there.

    I don't like some details of that car. It looks like it has tinted windows, and they look terrible IMO. Interior carpet on the transmission hump looks wrong. Dash pad looks weird. I've never seen a black steering wheel hub pad. Paint on inner fenders in engine compartment looks flat black instead of the correct body color enamel. Trunk shouldn't be carpeted. If you are going to sink that kind of money into something, get the details right. I have a hard time buying that 80 grand quote, unless labor was billed at hundreds per hour.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,543
    Seeing that Pontiac makes one sad the brand is dead. I always liked those lucite (?) steering wheels too.

    The Chrysler color combo is very mid-80s, it suits the car, yeah. The Olds color combo is nice, and I agree about the lack of a vinyl roof being a plus - I think the same when it is absent on 79-85 Eldos.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 20,286
    '61 Pontiac Safari- Count me as one that likes that one, and just about any of the big Widetracks from '60 to '64. I like those wheels too Fin.

    '60 Fiat 1100- Millecentos are considered minor classics by aficionados of small cars. My in-laws had one when my FIL was stationed in Europe. This car was passed from one GI to another as people were transfered in and out of their post. They remember it fondly.

    '61 Merc 220sb- I've never heard of the D-B Automatic clutch gearbox. Anyone know anything about it?

    Nice collection this week, Fin, with plenty of stuff from what I consider the Golden Age (early 1960s)

    '65 Merc "pickup"- It's sacrilege but I think this little "truck" is cool.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,543
    The Hydrak system was something MB produced before it had an in-house automatic. 1961 was the last year for it. It is a vacuum-hydraulic clutch system which works automatically when one shifts - the car has no clutch pedal, but does have a normal manual shift pattern, and must be shifted manually. The clutch is actuated when the shift lever is moved. This created many problems as drivers would treat it more like an automatic - would not let off the gas when shifting, and would rest their hands on the shift lever, which actuated the clutch constantly. This created premature wear and unreliability.

    It is not a bad system if one uses it completely by the book, but it does not tolerate abuse. It is interesting 1950s technology, but requires some discipline to keep operational.

    I don't see the pickup as anything bad. There are endless W110s still rotting away today, and nobody is ever going to save them. As long as the donor car wasn't something important - no harm done. Puts one back on the road, and it's fun.
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,440
    What a terrible looking Cadillac Eldorado. The people that were doing mods in those days really had very little taste.

    I like the first gen Civic. The seller will have to find a Honda nut to buy it though.

    The E55 AMG wagon looks sharp. But it looks like some kind of grey import. Even the VIN plaque is different. I wonder too.

    I can't beleive someone paid $14k for that chop top 4X4 Cutlass.

    Packard is indeed dumb. Is the seller looking to attract the tuner crowd with the lambo doors?

    boomchek: driven 10,000+ cars, sold 1000+ cars, owned 50+ cars

  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,543
    Maybe the E55 wouldn't be too hard to import, now that I think of it - more shipping/red tape expense than modification. I think the engines in the Euro and NA versions are more or less identical. The chassis was sold in NA, and the safety equipment would be the same in both markets for a highline model, so after an inspection the car probably wouldn't need any mods. I see it is wearing Swiss plates, that must be where it comes from. I have seen weird VINs like that on 80s grey market imports - as before 1985 when MB finally brought over their big engines, small companies were bringing them over on their own - and shipping over cheap used MB too, as at the time the NA gave them inflated residuals. An AWD E55....I like that idea.

    I suspect 14K will never change hands for that Cutlass.
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,440
    The Cutlass had the same person outbidding themselves. :confuse:

    boomchek: driven 10,000+ cars, sold 1000+ cars, owned 50+ cars

  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 1,019
    Just went to a cool local Microcar show. Isetta, messerschmitt (sp), Honda 600's, Fiats, a Trabant, ETC. Lots of cool little cars, a lot of owner pride and care in them. The whole show fit in a small area Downtown.
    2012 Mustang Premium, 2013 Lincoln MKX Elite, 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,543
    A couple of oddities today...a woman driving a W113 SL, in the same color as my fintail. She was younger than the typical driver of such a car.

    Saw another woman driving a pristine looking W115 diesel...tobacco brown. She was the age I would expect of someone who drives such a car :shades:

    Also saw a couple of young guys in a ca. 73 Ford LTD 2 door, the hardtop style with a thick C-pillar, no opera windows. It was a putrid period yellow with a brown vinyl top, and it looked fairly immaculate.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,543
    Spotted a Dodge Spirit Turbo...can't be many of those around anymore.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 20,286
    from the Muscle Car era:

    1970ish Plymouth GTX, orange with matte black hood, in very good shape, no obvious defects from 40 or 50 feet away.

    1969 Mustang Mach One, blue w gold stripe, black hood, shape comparable to the GTX but seen from further away,

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,487
    I went with some friends to Dorney Park in PA. Considering we went through a lot of rural area, the old car spottings were pretty bleak. On the way up, just north of Baltimore, at a self-storage lot, I saw a blue '67 Catalina 4-door hardtop, slowly rusting into the parking lot. Actually at the park, in the parking lot, was a beat-up brown 1983-87 era New Yorker, the K-car model with the thick C-pillar. And on the way home, I spotted a pristine-looking '82-84 Regal 4-door, in sort of a light brown/champagne color.
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    wagon, versus the typical sedan. Looked like an owned-forever beater with the requisite old man driver. Battleship gray with the usual chrome strips and fake wire wheels.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    Ah my favorite---fake wire wheels. Almost as good as bright chrome wheels on a 1975 Cadillac. Now that's class! :cry:
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,487
    For the most part, I despise wire-wheel hubcaps. When I bought my '79 5th Ave, those were the first things to come off. They weren't attached correctly anyway, and as big and heavy as those suckers are, I'm sure one good bump, and they'd come right off. I ended up putting the copcar wheels from my '89 Gran Fury on, raised white letters, dog-dish hubcaps, and all. Sorta rednecked-up the car a bit, but I liked it that way. :P

    I picked up a set of Mirada alloy rims at Carlisle, so with any luck, soon my car will look kinda like this.

    I think some wire hubcaps are okay, if they have enough depth to them, and don't stick out too far. The ones on my grandmother's '85 LeSabre were fairly classy as far as those things go. And I think the ones on Lemko's Brougham look decent on the car. But the wire hubcaps the 5th Ave uses just seemed like they stuck out too far, merely bringing attention to the fact that they were fake.

    Buick made a rally wheel that was common on the 1980-84 Electra, and later B-body wagons, that looked a bit like what the General Lee used. I would have loved to have snagged a set for Grandma's LeSabre when I had that car! Or even those older 5-spoke "magnum" style rally wheels would've been cool.
  • texasestexases Posts: 8,803
    My least favorite wire wheels? On gen 1 Mustangs. I seem to see a lot more of them now than I did back then :confuse: :sick:
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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,487
    Oh gawd that's just awful! Of course, that washed-out pink doesn't help matters any. :sick:
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 23,285
    I liked those wire wheels on that car.

    However, I don't remember ever seeing a pink Mustang convertible. Was that a Mary Kay car?

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    Too small. Wire wheels under 18" look kinda silly to me.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,487
    I kinda liked those old wire wheels that were used on Mopars in the 1950's. Kelsey-Hayes, I think they were called? I imagine they were only a 14-15" wheel. But, being a true wire wheel, and not just a hubcap, helped give them a much classier look.

    Here's a '55 DeSoto sporting the look.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    You need to be able to see through or at least *into* wire wheels to give them dimension, and the wheel needs to be able to fill the wheel well. Also the wires need to be thin enough to be graceful and configured in an appealing manner.

    Otherwise,, they looked tacked on and out of proportion to the car---like shopping cart wheels spray-painted in aluminum.

    They are, in other words, "cheesy" IMO, if done in the wrong style on the wrong car.

    Wires are a "classic" look. They no more belong on a modern svoopy-doopy car than AOOGAH horns, furry dice, strapped down luggage, or golf club racks.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,487
    So on that '55 DeSoto, at least, do you think they work?

    FWIW, here's a pic of a 1979 5th Ave with wire hubcaps...basically how mine is "supposed" to look...
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    The main thing I don't like about them is the way the whole thing has sort of a cone shape, pointing outward to the center cap. It just looks too stuck-on, like an afterthought.

    I just like wheels that have more depth to them, and especially like that look where most of the wheel is inset from the edge of the rim...gives it a beefier, more substantial look. Kinda like this 1981 5th Ave that's sporting Cordoba/Mirada rims, in a pic way too big to post here.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    Alloys look much better on modern cars than wires IMO.

    I can't see the pix of the '55 Desoto---access denied.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 23,285
    I think spokes have a more authentic look. :blush: :)

    They are see-through. They are centered in the wheel.

    There's no way I'd drive this car on the interstate to the car show I where I saw it!!!

    Anyone know the car brand? (I know this is not mystery cars discussion).

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    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,543
    Those Cordoba/Mirada wheels are a relatively cool touch, they have a very period look to them, and not in a terrible way.
  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    my guess: Chrysler (or DeSoto) Airflow? Or perhaps a Cord?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    Yeah maybe an Auburn or Cord. Are those WOOD? :surprise:

    Wooden spoke wheels are really *really* dangerous.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 23,285
    Not any of those. Would you like to see the car? click here to see car

    Interior

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    OK, maybe a Ford pickup?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 23,285
    Link should work now--two of them there.

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

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