Vibration issue with 2015 Honda CR-V

blabla1blabla1 Member Posts: 3
edited June 2015 in Honda
All,

There is A BIG issue with vibration with new Honda CRV 2015. The issue kills new car experience. I am even worried that we are stuck with the issue. When you stop at stop light and car is in drive you will notice vibration and it will continue until you drive again. This is very noticeable even in the back seat! I hope there is fix for it. Everyone who has bought the car (including me) has complained about it.

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  • thecardoc3thecardoc3 Member Posts: 5,792
    Problems like a vibration at idle are often solved by changing the idle speed, or in Honda's case they may change the dampening rate of the engine mounts. (They are computer controlled)
    Unfortunately "adjustments" can only be made by changes in the software at the engineering level and then get passed onto the dealers service department so that the dealers technicians can re-flash the engine controller. Sometimes, they have to identify a problem like you describe and then re-write the soft wear to fix it and that can take some time because they also have to certify that the software update doesn't make the car pollute the air.

    It may be annoying, but give them some time and you will probably see them get a TSB addressing the issue.
  • 101audi101audi Member Posts: 5
    2015 Honda CRV EX FWD.
    i have same problem only drive 230 miles.
    i'll take to the dealer.
  • rforduclarforducla Member Posts: 4
    Anyone not experiencing this problem?

    This is keeping me from buying a CR-V at this time. I can't believe that Honda makes all these great improvements and lets this problem slide by. Disgraceful!

    One thing that's not clear is if this problem shows up on ALL cars.
    I've looked at many test drive videos (not dealer videos) and reviews, some of them have had the car for a week, and not one of them have mentioned this problem.

    Doesn't make sense.

    Please post and let us know if you have not had this problem.
  • gj2015gj2015 Member Posts: 1
    My wife just bought the 2015 CR-V Touring and we are experiencing the same annoying vibration issues described. We returned it to the dealer at approx. 200 miles and they could only offer that we put a few miles on it in hopes the issues go away. Here we are at 1200 miles and it has only gotten worse. This is obviously not a dealer issue. I have been in contact with Honda and they are "looking into it" and will get back to me. This is our 4th CR-V and sixth Honda since 1989. All were purchased new, but this is the worse situation we have ever been in with a new vehicle. Hopefully Honda solves the issue. We are ready to trade for anything NOT Honda.
  • dlardnerdlardner Member Posts: 1
    we have had the 2015 CRV for about 2 months. Vibration has been there the whole time. Took the car back to the dealer. They have contacted Honda and told us to give them some time to try to fix, call back in a month, if they haven't got back to us first. We had a 2010 that we were very happy with, other than the under powered engine. Thought we would try the new CRV with the new CVT engine. Right now the vibration is keeping us from really enjoying this vehicle. Hope they come up with a cure!!!! Would not recommend buying one until it's fixed.
  • insightoneinsightone Member Posts: 1
    I bought the 2015 CR-V 4 days ago to replace my 2014 CR-V. The vibration problem is real and I had the car checked today just to be sure it wasn't something else. The repair report reads in part, "The vibration concern customer is experiencing is most likely due to the operation of the high pressure fuel pump which can cause some idle vibration to occur. This is a normal condition." Overall the new CR-V is such an improvement over the 2014 that even if I could, I wouldn't return it to a dealer for a refund. The ride is quieter. The acceleration is much better. I am already getting spoiled by the keyless entry and starting. The camera helping lane change is wonderful. So I'll waited for Honda to issue a TSB.
  • thecardoc3thecardoc3 Member Posts: 5,792
    A number of manufacturers have had NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) issues with their new GDI engine high pressure fuel pumps being noisy. If that is what the owners are referring to it is in fact normal to have audible sounds from them. Some manufacturers have done a little better than others with isolating the system to mitigate the sound entry into the passenger compartment. With enough reports to objectionable sounds expect that they will try and figure out a solution but at least rest assured, it really isn't broken. Now annoying? Yea, it probably is. .
  • kellyer21kellyer21 Member Posts: 2

    I bought the 2015 CR-V 4 days ago to replace my 2014 CR-V. The vibration problem is real and I had the car checked today just to be sure it wasn't something else. The repair report reads in part, "The vibration concern customer is experiencing is most likely due to the operation of the high pressure fuel pump which can cause some idle vibration to occur. This is a normal condition." Overall the new CR-V is such an improvement over the 2014 that even if I could, I wouldn't return it to a dealer for a refund. The ride is quieter. The acceleration is much better. I am already getting spoiled by the keyless entry and starting. The camera helping lane change is wonderful. So I'll waited for Honda to issue a TSB.

    What is TSB?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    TSB = Technical Service Bulletin.

    How Can a Technical Service Bulletin Help Me?
  • kellyer21kellyer21 Member Posts: 2
    Where does one find a TSB for their vehicle?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited January 2015
    You can find TSBs at safercar.gov - do a search for all recalls by vehicle and then select the make/model year, and then click on the Service Bulletins tab.

    We have summaries here too on the Edmunds Car Maintenance Guide.

    Another good resource is bbbind.com. You have to register (free) but it's easy.

    It's too early I think for a vibration "fix" to get issued, unless Honda is just doing something on a case by case basis as people complain. So it would pay to make a service appointment and get your CR-V checked and get your complaint in the database.
  • tcmattcmat Member Posts: 8
    I'm amazed Honda apparently hasn't solved this yet, as owners are so vocal, and the issue sounds quite prominent (empty passenger seat vibrating, etc). I'd be interested in hearing good news, as I have a RAV lease up at end of 2015, and a finance dept friend has recently moved from Toyota to Honda - but surely I'll test drive the one I'd like to buy first!
  • pandaxoxpandaxox Member Posts: 24
    I posted this in another thread.
    I visited 3 dealerships, and test drove 3 CR-Vs.
    #1 dealership...supposedly ALL their CR-Vs shake...and they don't give a ....That includes the sales and service.

    #2 and #3 CR-Vs drove with NO vibration.

    I checked them out identically.
    I warmed them up. Drove reg and highway. Stopped in D, shut everything off.

    Here's what I found:
    The ones that vibrate are the ones with RPM dipping below 600 (at the one dealer).
    The ones that didn't vibrate, their RPM NEVER dropped below 750 when everything was shut off, in D , and warmed up.

    Seems to me that the RPM is adjusted willy nilly at Honda!!!!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The idle speed is probably controlled by the PCM, so hmmmm....maybe a software update is the cure for all this? You should inform Honda of your discovery!
  • thecardoc3thecardoc3 Member Posts: 5,792
    That is correct, the idle speed is completely controlled by the PCM and isn't adjustable by any method other than a software update. There have been many attempts to explain what happens to the technicians with problems like this and what the repercussions are. Beyond the first visit, which likely paid the technician somewhere between twelve to eighteen minutes to investigate this, any repeat visit for the same reported issue is unpaid time for the technician(s) even if the car was then assigned to a different technician. It's been a battle to get people to see that this is a consumer issue because on one hand there are people who stop the debate at the consumers immediate needs and don't care about why this is occurring. But they sure care when it is their car that isn't getting repaired in a timely fashion. The problem is there aren't enough fingers pointing in the right direction when it comes to truly solving the problem which will only get worse as the ranks of qualified technicians continues to shrink.
  • jes0012jes0012 Member Posts: 4
    My wife and I bought 2015 EX-L in mid October of 2014. Have now put 11,000 miles on it. Not a single vibration issue that everyone else seems to be commenting on. This is just to let you know that there are definitely ones out there that aren't having this problem. I think I would've noticed it in the first 11,000 miles
  • mnbuyer1mnbuyer1 Member Posts: 6
    I am interested in a 2015 CRV but this vibration issue has me second guessing. Can you definitely feel the issue in a test drive if you turn everything off and sit with the car in park? From what I have read, if the RPM's drop to about 750 or below you should feel the vibration. It sounds like some people have driven different cars from the same dealers and some vibrate and some don't. Thanks for any advice.
  • jimbo65jimbo65 Member Posts: 65
    Purchased our 2015 Honda CR-V EX-L FWD on 01/03/2015. No vibration or other issues. I just want to add my note to those who also that are problem free. This is a quality vehicle and a joy to drive. No I do not work for Honda, I am just a happy owner.
    2015 CR-V EX-L 2WD = One Sweet Ride :p
  • smaxxsmaxx Member Posts: 10
    Perhaps it is only an issue with AWD models?
  • dlford56dlford56 Member Posts: 1
    I researched and looked at all different SUV's for 3 months. I liked the CRV the best and when Motor Trend named it SUV of the year, I decided to go with a CRV Touring. Car had to be ordered and waited 6 weeks, picked up 12/22/2015. After 3 days I noticed little vibration in steering wheel upon acceleration, I thought maybe bad gas, filled up after 250 miles, still vibration but a little more. Then I thought maybe needs Supreme gas, filled up at 550 miles, now getting worse. After 3 weeks, I picked up my registration and asked my salesman to drive. He felt it also and said if it continues just take in to service dept, Honda always stands behind their cars and will fix. Brought it in at 800 miles, now worse, like holding on to a vibrating chair, some times the car shudders. Car tech took for a drive and before he left the parking lot, he said oh yea, you do have a complaint. He drove about 10 mins and said that should not be happening, he was baffeled, he had no idea what the problem was, he would contact Honda to see if there were any updates about this problem. After 2 days he said Honda is looking into it. After a week I went in to talk with Service Manager, he told me they had the same complaint by another customer too, he would contact NJ rep for Honda and I could meet with him. In the mean time I Googled "2015 Honda CRV vibration complaints" and found I was not the only one, must be an engineering problem, New Engine & Transmission. A week later the Honda Rep & Service Manager went with me for 1/2 hour drive, they were passengers. They both could hear & feel the problem, thinking maybe transmission? Then I asked Honda Rep to drive. When he drove he said "Oh yeah, you could feel it a lot more driving, I was right, this is a problem! "Honda is just starting to get similar complaints, engineering will probably find a fix for it, but it may not be for months if they need to redesign". He asked if I was interested in a different Honda car? I am not since I want an SUV and the Pilot is too big and I want good gas mileage . I asked if Honda would buy the car back, he said I would have to speak to a Honda Case Manager. He said if I am willing to wait for the fix, he would compensate me by extending my warranty to 100,000. I told him if he could tell me it would be fixed in a month, I might be willing to wait, because I really like everything about this car except THE WAY IT DRIVES!!! Called Case Manager and she said she only takes complaints, it is up to the dealership to buy back my car. Called dealership and they said that's not so, it is a Honda issue and flaw. I feel like I've been robbed, I saved money for 9 years and paid cash $35,000 w/tax for my car and have a car that is not fun to drive, like a new car should. I have contacted a Lemon Lawyer 2/27/2015, $2,500 for him to go to court (Honda will pay if I win, if not I loss $2,500). Next night I was looking for more complaints and I see ABC NY News "7 By Your Side" did a story on the Vibration on the Honda 2015 CRV, more than 800 complaints. Now I don't know if I should go to court???? Will there be a recall??? IF YOU HAVE THIS PROBLEM you need to register your complaint with THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFTEY ADMINISTRATION....www.nhtsa.gov/....My care seems to be worse than just the vibration while idling, mine does that too, but it feels minor compared to the steering wheel vibration/shudder my car has. I think there should be a CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT against Honda. They have know about this problem since Nov. 2014 and are still selling these cars. This is unfortunate for Honda because they have ALOT OF UNHAPPY HONDA OWNERS, and I am at the head of the list. I have stopped driving my CRV! The vibration/shudder is just a reminder of all the money I paid for a lemon. I have returned to driving my faithful 10 year old Toyota Highlander, 118,000 and I never had one problem with it. Should have stayed with Toyota!!!!
  • pandaxoxpandaxox Member Posts: 24
    I test drove a total of 5 Hondas EX AWD CRVs from 4 dealers. Two vibrated, three didn't. The vibration wasn't that bad, but it was annoying. Of course, I was looking for it because I read the forums.

    I am guessing that there are many vibrating CRVs but people drive with lights, heat, radio, on and that brings the rpm to above 600. They may not know that their CRVs vibrate.

    It seems that there are others who have MORE issues with their Hondas than just plain vibration.

    I like the CRV, but am a bit apprehensive to buy one.
    I cannot believe that Honda wouldn't do anything about it...?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    @dlford56, is your Touring FWD or AWD?
  • skigirl2015skigirl2015 Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2015
    I just bought a Honda CRV EX-L with AWD, and since we had read the widespread complaints, we listened carefully during our test drive, drove the car for 30 miles, and didn't hear any vibration as described by so many. I've driven the car for 100 miles, and it still sounds AWESOME! Either the problem was fixed, or we might have gotten one of the Honda CRVs without a problem. Will be interesting to see if there are others without this problem as they buy new cars in the future.
  • ez_dayzez_dayz Member Posts: 1
    We just leased a 2015 CR-V EX-L AWD and have noticed a vibration at 45 mph. Nothing major but a real shudder. I really think that it could be an RPM issue because it occurs right when the transmission shifts into its highest gear. Once you get past 45 and the RPM's are up it seems to be fine. Its like the engine is lugging when it makes the final shift. BY the way, it is a CVT.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Haven't noticed the vibes at idle then?
  • pandaxoxpandaxox Member Posts: 24
    I was told by a Honda Headquarters (?) to test drive a CRV really well and buy one that doesn't vibrate.....LMAO!!!!

    ez_dayz,

    Just curious about the RPM. If you are in D, the CRV warmed up, everything off....what is the RPM reading on your vehicle?
  • pandaxoxpandaxox Member Posts: 24
    YEAR : 2015 MAKE : Honda MODEL : CR-V
    NUMBER OF OPEN RECALLS: 1
    LAST UPDATED: Mar 03, 2015

    NHTSA RECALL NUMBER: AWAITING#
    MFR CAMPAIGN ID: JP3
    RECALL DATE: 02/26/2015
    RECALL STATUS: Recall INCOMPLETE. Remedy not yet available.

    SUMMARY:
    AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC. (HONDA) IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2015 HONDA CR-V VEHICLES. DURING ASSEMBLY OF THE SHORT BLOCK, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT NOT ALL OF THE CONNECTING ROD BOLTS WERE TORQUED TO THE SPECIFICATION.

    SAFETY RISK:
    IF A CONNECTING ROD BOLT WAS NOT TORQUED CORRECTLY, THE ENGINE MAY RATTLE/KNOCK, LEAK OIL, OR LOSE POWER, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

    REMEDY:
    HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE ENGINE SHORT BLOCK, FREE OF CHARGE. NOTIFICATION TO CUSTOMERS ABOUT THIS RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN MARCH 27, 2015. OWNERS MAY CONTACT THE HONDA AUTOMOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 888-234-2138. HONDA'S CAMPAIGN NUMBER FOR THIS RECALL IS JP2.


    **********************************************************************************

    I called regarding this and asked if the vibration is a part of it. The person thought that it may but she wasn't 100% certain because this issue is still not complete. Honda is gathering VIN#s, and information. I asked if she heard about the vibration. She said that she did ....and she could see how the part where it says "the engine may rattle..." could entail the vibration.

    Nonetheless, this recall seems to be in its early stages. She told me that Honda stopped the sale of the CRVs with most of the VIN #'s that seem to be affected....I guess there may be more to come....?
  • pandaxoxpandaxox Member Posts: 24
    Based on the above you have to wonder about the "overall quality control"....and what else may not have been set to specification, hence the difference in the RPM setting(some models stay at 750, others drop below 600 and VIBRATE) while idling.
    Point being that Honda is still collecting VIN #s and call-in issues.
  • deerlake7deerlake7 Member Posts: 176
    edited March 2015
    The '13-'15 Accords have the same vibration (with the Earth Dream, 4 cylinder). It occurs around 1000 to 1300 RPM. There's a Youtube video series called "Alex on Autos" and he has a review of the 2015 CRV. At the 5:50 mark, he explains the vibration problem. He talks about how Honda is using something called a "cylinder offset" to increase fuel economy. As part of this, he goes on to say that there have been some vibration complaints, but Honda says it's solved the problem with balance shafts. Unfortunately, it does not appear to have worked. If this explanation is correct, it's a design issue and it looks like we CRV and Accord owners are stuck with the problem.
  • pandaxoxpandaxox Member Posts: 24
    The problem with "being stuck" with the problem is that I, personally, drove a few CRVs, and only a few vibrate, NOT ALL. Maybe it was a coincidence?

    I don't know which of the CRVs RPM were improperly set....the ones that dipped below 600, or the ones that never dipped below 750 , warmed up, at rest in D, with everything off.

    I would like to see more people posting one way or another. My sample was small.

    Besides, the person at the 888-234-2138 number was aware of the vibration, and didn't say that it was normal. She wasn't sure though if any of the vibrating CRVs were included in this up coming recall, because Honda is STILL taking Vin#s, and complaints. Supposedly, Honda stopped the sale of the VIN #s that they know have problems...She had a longer list of issues in front of her. She was reading it and couldn't tell for certain. All this is still incomplete.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Interesting @deerlake7‌ - here's the link.
  • thecardoc3thecardoc3 Member Posts: 5,792
    Offset crankshaft. Actually nothing new. Even the Prius has been running its Atkinson Cycle with a 13mm offset for a decade now, Honda's offset is only 8mm.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desaxe

    Who remembers the Hudson Hornet?
    http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25511
    If the vibration being sensed is from the crankshaft offset then some of the complaints are based more on a change in what people want to tolerate as compared to what is actually there. Speedometer cables went through the same kind of a situation. At one time noise from the cables was only a concern if they got really loud, but as the cars got quieter what was actually normal eventually became intolerable and so electronic speedometers went from being a top end luxury to a standard across the industry.
  • deerlake7deerlake7 Member Posts: 176
    edited March 2015
    It would be interesting to know how much additional fuel economy is gained from the offset crankshaft to determine if it's worth the vibration. I've observed that it's more noticeable in very cold weather. The couple of weeks after my son & DIL picked up their '15 CRV it was very cold and my son was ready to take it back. Now, with the moderating temps, he likes it. This engine takes a very long time to warm up in cold weather and during the warm up cycle it idles faster. If you're waiting at a stop light when warm, it idles about 800 RPM and everything is fine. During the warm up cycle, it's idling about 1100 RPM and the vibration is very pronounced. In addition, when just cruising down a local street at about 35 MPH, the revs are about 1100 RPM and you can clearly feel the vibration. One additional clarification, the vibration only seems noticeable when it's in gear. The mileage is great, but I'd give up a mile/gallon to smooth the engine out.
  • thecardoc3thecardoc3 Member Posts: 5,792
    We devote portions of training classes for technicians to Honda's actively controlled engine mounts. The hydraulic engine mounts are computer controlled to make them more or less compliant under certain circumstances in order to try and give the passengers a nicer feel inside the vehicle. It's note-able that the use of balance shafts in the engine isn't required when you have one of Honda's IMA hybrids because they use the IMA to smooth out variations in crankshaft speed. This is going to be tough one, no doubt that its annoying but it's pretty hard to fix something that really isn't broken.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited March 2015
    Some people in the vibrating Prius threads online say they often turn the engine off at lights to avoid the vibrations.

    Maybe a partial fix for Honda (next time...) would be adding start/stop technology.
  • thecardoc3thecardoc3 Member Posts: 5,792
    stever said:

    Some people in the vibrating Prius threads online say they often turn the engine off at lights to avoid the vibrations.

    Maybe a partial fix for Honda (next time...) would be adding start/stop technology.

    So why is their Prius running at stops in the first place? Those have been start/stop since the day they first hit the market.



  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited March 2015
    Those owners must have been talking about applying hypermiling techniques to their second car and I skimmed the posts wrong. ;)

    Start/stop cuts off and the engine will turn on when you are running the AC and stuff at idle and the battery decides it needs some juice, I think.
  • pandaxoxpandaxox Member Posts: 24
    Just want to report that yesterday I test drove a 2015 Rogue, and a Rav4, so I could compare it to the Honda CRV.
    -The Rav4 drove very nicely, but I'm not a fan of its' interior. I couldn't get past the aesthetics. I understand it's subjective.
    -The Rogue had a SLIGHT VIBRATION to it. I felt the massage while driving and sitting on lights. I came to the conclusion that it's the CVT, because that's the thing that Rogue has in common with the CRV.
    -Perhaps the Honda just needs a slight adjustment to minimize the vibration?
  • g_friebergg_frieberg Member Posts: 28
    I test drove a new 2015 CRV EX at an Ohio dealer yesterday. LOVED the interior of the car, and all of its nice features. HOWEVER, the vibration through the steering column, floor pan, and apparent raspiness of the drivetrain upon acceleration (especially transition from about 1000 to maybe 1500 RPM) were deal breakers for me. I ended up, instead, buying a 2015 Toyota RAV4 (with a more conventional 6 speed gearbox). I am disappointed that I was not able to purchase my third Honda (5th if you include motorcycles !), but I had to turn Honda down this time. Maybe in the future they will get the drivetrain sorted out. But, for now, I'll have to settle for the less technological Toyota. I feel bad for those who ended up not being satisfied with their CRV, but I find it difficult to imagine they would NOT have noticed this vibration issue when test driving the car initially. It seemed very apparent to me, right off the bat. GLTA.
  • thecardoc3thecardoc3 Member Posts: 5,792
    stever said:

    Start/stop cuts off and the engine will turn on when you are running the AC and stuff at idle and the battery decides it needs some juice, I think.

    Most Toyota and Honda hybrids since around 2004 had electric AC compressors which were powered by the hybrid system on the car. That allowed the AC compressor to run even when the engine was turned off. In fact it was one of the "selling points" over the Ford systems at the time. Some of the Honda's had hybrid compressors that were both belt driven as well as electric. Today the strategy of using electric AC compressors has spread across a number of manufacturers who offer hybrid, plug in hybrid, and especially of course electric vehicles.

    The need for the system to have the engine running or not and the strategies involved and the diagnostic routines that would have to be followed can take some forty hours of classroom time to cover, and that's if you only concentrate on the most popular models.


  • g_friebergg_frieberg Member Posts: 28
    Another comment I want to make on test driving the Honda CRV yet again, the day after I drove it initially for the first time. When I would stop at a light, with the car in D, and foot on the gas, I found that vibration was diminished when the headlights were turned on. I suspect (as other may have opined) that this might be due to increased idle speed in order to compensate for large current draw on the alternator. So, I continued to simply drive the car with lights on for the duration of the test drive. It did improve the buzz a bit. Also, I regularly drive an old (early model) 2004 Nissan Murano with CVT (and 3.5 L V6). While this tranny is MUCH more "rubber-band-like" in its wind-up behavior, it does not vibrate very much at all @ a stop. THat is why I am wondering if the 4 cyl. engine is shaking in its engine mounts. These vibes might be more that engine than the tranny.
  • g_friebergg_frieberg Member Posts: 28
    OK ! I am a new 2015 CRV owner, after changing my mind on purchase of a RAV4 here at a Toyota-Honda dealer in Ohio. I ended up getting a White EX with the beige cloth interior (I am not fond of leather seats). After having driven it about 17-18 miles on a final assessment, I finally declined the Toyota RAV 4 XLE, and the RAV4 Limited, to settle on this Honda. After a very long drive in both Toyotas (both great cars), what sold me on the Honda:
    1) Updated technology features (love the blind spot camera on the passenger side), 2) better fuel economy of the Honda, and 3) like the dashboard layout much better than the Toyo. I did like the Toyo 6 speed tranny, but it did shift a huge amount, especially in economy mode, even going up very slight grades at freeway speeds. I finally decided that putting up with some vibration at idle was a worthwhile trade-off to gain 3-4 MGP, and to get a nicer ride. The Toyo Limited RAV4 had a virtually punishing ride, and thumped and shuddered constantly (probably due to 18 inch wheels and low aspect ratio tires). I am 62 years old, and decided I did not want to go back to stiff "sport" suspensions. I will keep everybody posted on my experiences with the CRV. There are only 89 miles on this car, so cannot speak to specifics right not. The display in the dash, and the menu option capability (along with personally programming various parameters) simply blows Toyota away. If technology is important to you, there is no contest between Honda and Toyota regarding RAV4 vs. CRV.
    I would love to have test driven a Subaru, but no dealer around here. I am DONE with having to hassle with dealerships in remote locations. Nothing but hassles. GLTA CRV owners. I am now one of them...for good OR bad. BTW...I also bought a 36 month top-to-bottom extended warranty (cost was $ 1145). I decided to do so given that 1) I tend to keep cars 10 years or longer, and 2) this CRV has a new Atkinson engine, and a new CVT tranny. I suspect Honda has done its engineering homework, but want to protect myself anyway.
    The extended warranty (now totally 72 months) gives me 3 additional years, plus 100K mileage. Since I only drive about 8K miles per year, it was the TIME guarantee that was important to me, not the miles driven.
    Gerald Frieberg, here in Appalachian Ohio
  • jimbo65jimbo65 Member Posts: 65
    Congrats g_frieberg on your purchase! Hope you enjoy your new CRV as much as we do ours. Cheers!
    2015 CR-V EX-L 2WD = One Sweet Ride :p
  • g_friebergg_frieberg Member Posts: 28
    Thanks jimbo65 ! Much appreciated !
  • g_friebergg_frieberg Member Posts: 28
    Drove about 150 miles today (i.e. mixed driving in and around Columbus, Ohio). New 2015 was delightful to drive. Loved the right side mirror camera, and the safety margin that it empowers the driver. On the highway, the car was not a Lexus, for sure, but much quieter than the Toyota RAV4 Limited that I also test drove recently. I am not real keen on the stock tires (my CRV was delivered with Bridgestones), so I will plan to put on Michelins when these tires get worn down. I experimented at stop lights, to reduce the vibes a bit, at putting the tranny into neutral. The vibes virtually disappeared. I still think the issue is NOT with the tranny, but with the new engine. (i.e. when in drive @ idle, with foot on the brake, the tranny simply transfers the vibration from the engine into the mass of the total car. When in neutral, this engine vibe is decoupled...just my OPINION).
  • g_friebergg_frieberg Member Posts: 28
    OK. I've put on a few hundred miles on my 2015 CRV now. Here is what I am experiencing with the vibration: 1) concur that it is most evident, at idle, with foot on brake (mine appears to idle around maybe 700 rpm); 2) vibes decrease somewhat when I have my headlights ON and running lights ON (I generally do this anyway, a habit from my motorcycle "safety consciousness"); 3) if I slip the tranny into N while at a stop, with foot on brake, the vibes pretty much go away. (This is probably the best solution for those who spend a lot of time at stoplights, who are also less tolerant of the vibes). I think the vibe demon is NOT the tranny, but the ENGINE shaking in its mounts. Why do I think this ? Because when I have another person sit in the drivers seat, with engine running, and foot on the brake, the engine is shaking in its very heavy rubber engine mounts, whether in D or in N. That tells me much of this is coming from the engine. I see nothing HONDA could do to minimize this short of 1) some sort of computerized engine mounts to CANCEL vibes, or...to use a different engine.
    For me much of this is moot; I will be spending most of my time on the highway with this car anyway, where the vibes are no worse than my Ford Ranger or Nissan Murano. If you cannot tolerate some vibration, I'd advise going with a smoother engine (of the Toyota, Honda, Subaru and Ford SUV's in this size range, the Subaru flat six is the smoothest I have driven, while the Ford was probably a close 2nd place).
    -Frieberg
  • runtotorunruntotorun Member Posts: 1
    Three weeks ago yesterday I purchased a 2015 Honda CR-V AWD. Had my 1997 Honda CR-V not been rear ended then pushed into the car in front of me on Feb 18th totaling it, I never would have had to buy a new car. No sooner did I drive the new car off the lot with 9 miles on it when I noticed a vibration. My first thought was its from the crappy continental tires that came on the car, but after doing my research I realized its not the tires at all. I found it interesting that the salesman and one of the service advisors told me they never heard of this problem until I had just brought it up. I am bringing the car in tomorrow morning to the dealership armed with the u tube link I found here and all the other info I have been collecting. You can't tell me that the dealerships don't know about this. I hope there will be a class action lawsuit against Honda of America.
  • pandaxoxpandaxox Member Posts: 24
    Of course they know. I, personally told SEVEN Honda dealers in my state. I skipped only one. I test drove the CRVs pointing it out to them. None of them were bothered by it and said that IF it's a problem, Honda will stand behind it.

    I ended up leasing one. This will give me time to either love or hate it. The vibration is at minimum, as compared to some of the others that I drove, so there is a difference how badly they vibrate.

    Then again, I felt some vibration driving a Rogue, as well.
  • gorktgorkt Member Posts: 1
    I have test driven two EX AWD models over the last week. The first had absolutely no vibration whatsoever, the second was quite noticeable when idling. Both had seven miles on it at the time of the test. It is very odd that it varies so much from car to car. I still love the car, and when the times comes to purchase, I will definitely make sure that I test the model I plan to purchase beforehand, and I urge others to do the same. I hope Honda fixes this before the next model year.
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