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Dodge Magnum



  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    No need to yell (yelling = typing in all caps), which is kind of akin to killing the messenger in this case. ;-)

    Mind you, I don't own a Magnum (although the 300C has my tweaked interest a bit, in spite of it's lack of a manual gearbox), and what I'm writing is speculation. That said, I used to work for MB-USA, and I've driven any number of German cars that have a 128 mph governor, so said "speculation" does have some basis.

    So, on with the speculation. First off, my understanding is that the SRT8 6.1 liter Hemi cars have no such governor (or if they do, it's probably more like 155 mph). Secondly, as with most other German marques, aftermarket tuners will most likely offer (if they are not doing so already) new firmware for the ECU (engine control unit), that bumps up the limit or removes it entirely.

    The question I have is, "Why?" Bragging rights? I ask because my last car came with very high speed rubber (rated to well over 150), and the only time I was annoyed by the 128 governor on it was when I picked it up in Germany on the manufacturers' European Delivery program. Once I had the car here in the U.S. I don't think I ever had it much over 110, and even that was only for a short burst on an empty road.

    Best Regards,
  • romannumalromannumal Posts: 21
    Sorry for yell I had cap lock on and forgot it was on. I was just asking the question I do not think i would need to go over 128 just did not know why. thank you for your help. yes her in the city 90 is fast and it feel like i am going 50 that is what is nice but scary on the same hand. this is the best car i have every owned can not wait until my first road trip to the river riding in style. :)
  • peterskmpeterskm Posts: 79
    I have read that if you upgrade to Z rated tires, you can go to the dealer and they can change to top speed governor accordingly with their StarScan tool.
  • peterskmpeterskm Posts: 79
    I still am a bit leary of your dealer's advice. I know the covers are closer to $100. I've seen them for $85 for the '05 Magnums on some online parts sites.
  • judescarjudescar Posts: 14
    Hi Shipo.....I totally agree with you. All I can say is: >>>> :lemon:
    I especially agree about the straight tracking.
  • kowalskikowalski Posts: 94
    I own a c5 vette and only on the track has it been over 110 mph in 3rd gear of coarse..
    The magnum is a station wagon remember that is not a race car ,big motor or not ..

    A tuning chip will help elimanate the govenor.
    The SRT 8 comming out is approx 40k + and gives 5mpg city 8-10 mpg highway if that ............... .
    It wont be out long and will fade from the market fast ..I hear 1 year in production if that ..
    Hypertech makes a tuner that will make the magnum fly !!
    Cost is approx 250.00 and will set firmer shift points, raise the rev limit ,and top end ..Keeping in mind its a station wagon I have no plans to beef up my Magnum Rt AWD thats what the vette is for..

    Plus ever see some one beating a four door or a wagon it looks plain foolish ..
    Remember its a dodge how long will it last if its beat and put away wet?
    Not long I bet !!
  • 4bells4bells Posts: 5
    Anyone know what the BAS light on the right-hand instrument pod stands for? Mine's been coming on and I'm curious about it.

    Of course I know there is a manual...but I don't have one...go figure.

    Thanks :shades:

  • peterskmpeterskm Posts: 79
    That's the stability control/ABS light.
  • kowalskikowalski Posts: 94
    Ill be leaveing in the next month or so for a 4000 mile trip Michigan to Tampa,Key West, and back.Im most interested how the tires will hold up ..
    Ill keep all informed on how it goes and what I experienced. It should be a nice shake down now it has approx 2500 miles on the odometer..
    Cant wait actually knowing how comfortable this car is on the road add a lap top with dvd in the back seat, and it should be about a 7-8 movie ride,lol.Back in my day all we had was an etch a sketch ........
    All kidding aside I want to see accurate the MPG read out is verses actual MPG.
    I figure about 6 tanks of fuel (19 gallons) 12 tanks total of gas approx $500.00
    Well see the truth soon enough if the claims of good MPG hold up..

    AWD seems to get at best 24 highway at 65 mph and no head wind..
    As promised to pass the time Ill log the trip and see if the numbers add up and if MPG improves soon.
    In my opinion it is not broken in as of yet. 5000 miles on the odometer then shes broken in ..

    It will be a neat test the car will be running the whole trip except for gas stops ,well see if she developes those little gremlins and dash rattles.

    I have had a few great dodges and they all eventually rattle ..
    I have noticed a rattle in the dash in the past few weeks only on rough surfaces it seems to comes and go ..
    Could be that snoop dog Cd that sounds so sweet in that system .The bass is impressive for a factory system ..I think I may be the cause of the rattle in the dash I do kick it up a bit at times.One thing that always amazes me is how good just the stock stereo sounds.. Im 43 years old and still know quality when I hear it..Not dead yet .

    I still have not a sinlge real issue with this car it is a joy daily to drive ....
    I figure with the RT AWD Im lucky to get 16-18 mpg city and 23 Hgwy.

    All paid for:
    All great cars reside in my 4 car garage but you know the magum is not at the top for no reason ..
    I couldnt have bought a better company car for the buck that doubles as a good family hauler too boot..

    2005 magnum RT AWD
    2000 Corvette coupe(targa)
    2001 Eclipse GT
    1996 9c1 Caprice SS Impala( Mint ,bullet proof literally).
  • Awesome!

    I actually just found out that an ex of my sister's, who we're all still friends with, is acquiring a dodge dealer this summer... if he cant get me the best deal on what i want, nobody can. i just hope there are better rebates in the fall - or end of year sales. it looks as though they've raised the price of the magnum a bit.

    you answered my un-asked question about how it'd compare to a subaru.
  • kowalskikowalski Posts: 94
    I can assure you this youll love the magnum from day one ..............

    We drove the 300c and hated it, the ride was to dampered..Actually too floaty which can get you in a lot of trouble fast when driving on roads effected by winter conditions.We chose the magnum RT AWD hands down for its road feel the car felt more balanced,not to mention The 300c,s are a dime a dozen and look like my grandpas car.....
    For a few hundred bucks you can dress up the magnums interior with a dash kit that looks great ..

    The subi is like a toy car next to the magnum .Not event close at all to the magnum in any area .American steel is the only way to go ...DC has really gotten thier act together,and Im happy to say Im very pleased..

    Good luck Im sure youll get a great deal and a great car as we all have....
    Welcome to the world of real cars not some rice box..
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "The subi is like a toy car next to the magnum .Not event close at all to the magnum in any area .American steel is the only way to go..."

    What are you talking about? The Subie is part recycled 1957 Cadillac, part recycled 1963 Ford Galaxy 500 and part recycled 1970 Chrysler Newport. Hmmm, sounds like "American Steel" if you ask me. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Errr, I thought the ;-) would indicate that I was joking. Subaru for me? No thanks. I haven't driven one, and have no desire to.

    Best Regards,
  • kowalskikowalski Posts: 94
    LOl , I understand I missed that ..Its all good..
  • hardhawkhardhawk Posts: 702
    Just got back from a road trip in the RWD Mag RT. 2200 miles from S.E. KS to/from Wyoming. Lots of high speed 80 MPH driving on I-80, I-25, & I-70. High altitude driving in the mountains too. Overall MPG average was 20.5, and the car was loaded very full with 4 passengers and luggage. I am very pleased with the overall mileage. Was more pleased with the handling, ride, and quiet of the Mag. Simply amazing. I drove 750 miles to Cheyenne, WY the first day and was not tired and worn out like I would have been with other cars. My wife kept asking if I needed her to drive and the answer was always no. What a great car. Only saw about 10 others the entire trip.
  • kowalskikowalski Posts: 94
    Sounds like you had a blast and yes it is nice not to see these cars out there to the degree you would see Grand ams etc........
    I was curious how a fully loaded Magnum would do on the MPG .
    What was your tire PSI??Fully loaded.

    Amazing is the key word you used ,seems like Dodge has thier game together in a big way .......
    It is simply a great car isnt it ..........
  • hmk123hmk123 Posts: 122
    Last week on the highway a piece of wood flew into the rear door of my Cool Vanilla Magnum. There was a dent and a scratch down to the metal. I took it to a body shop around the corner and picked it up today. He said he was going to repaint the whole door. The dent is gone. However, the paint beneath the door handle looks wavery, not as smooth as the rest of the car. When I pointed that out he said that is normal and I need to bring it back next week in order for them to buff it. That would make it as smooth as the rest of the car. But the paint needs to harden first. Does that sound right or did I end up with a bad paint job?
  • hardhawkhardhawk Posts: 702
    I ran 36 PSI in all 4 tires on the trip. One thing I forgot to mention is the power. I had more than plenty of power at all speed and altitude levels. The Hemi is just incredible. I was sure glad I had the Mopar front end bra on for the trip, as the dead bugs covered the windshield and bra front rather rapidly at 80 MPH. Considering how infrequently I had to stop for gas, where I could clean the windshield, it got pretty bad between fill ups. I finally broke out the windex and paper towels at the rest areas to keep the visibility at its best.
  • rtracerrtracer Posts: 6
    The BAS light is not the stability or antilock braking system. The BAS stands for "Brake Assist"
    This is seperate from antilock braking. The BAS system senses how quick and hard you slam on the brake pedal, as in en emergency braking situation, and gives the hydrolics and extra boost to help you stop.
    I'd take her into the dealership to have that looked at
  • rtracerrtracer Posts: 6
    Question for anyone who has installed an aftermarket cold intake system...K&N ect..
    Any Hp gain...that you can feel?
    I heard they add some sound to the Mag..please describe..
    Thanks much
    Anyone added one of those Cat back exhaust systems..hows she sound.
  • kowalskikowalski Posts: 94
    Man that info helps Ill have to get a bra asap ..
    Thankyou for the info ...

  • kowalskikowalski Posts: 94
    Im running a drop in K & N it does very liitle from what I can see I get a little more low end grunt..
    The drop in suits me fine but its a preference.

    My SS caprice 9c1 benifited from all the intake mods and lower temp theromsat it was an LT1 thought and it wanted to breath .. rotate the MAS about 80 degrees and take out the baffle filter ,That s all for an LT1 though not an hemi..
    May help abit on the hemi though...........

    This magnum is as fast or faster than my 1996 Caprice SS 9c1.
    And that car was a monster when you punched it,it still had all the cop goodies on it too boot and was mintit had 45k on it and was a detectives car.
    The magnum filled its shoes nicely.

    Im sure id you get rid of that stock air box youll get a few more ponies ..
    I bet youll off set the MPG a bit though soley because youll be wanting to hear that unreal sucking sound from the intake..
    If you do an filter system try to place it close to a corner of the front end.
    Youll get better air there instaed of right at the engine.

    I have read that the intake nozzle is set right under the front bumper and it does suck water in so anything higher up in the engine comp will be a good thing.Keep in mind you dont want to do what most people do suck hot air from the engine into the intake youll actually decrease power..

    Stay away from standing water with the Magnum go around it not thru it or youll find out the hard way ..

    I looked at several systems and found it to be a waste of $ esspecially gas MPG with me stopping the pedal all the time.

    Do your homework...............
  • kowalskikowalski Posts: 94
    Each cylinder has an ignition coil pack over one spark plug, and a regular plug wire connected to the other spark plug. Further, the coil pack also has a plug wire attached to it that extends to the opposite cylinder bank. It appears that each cylinder shares a coil pack with another cylinder.

    It appears that each of the two plugs on a given cylinder is fired by a separate coil. One plug has a coil directly attached, and the other is fired via an ignition wire connected to a coil located on another cylinder on the opposite bank. The benefits would be one-half the number of coils (8 vs. 16) compared to each plug having its own coil, and of course less weight. What I'm wondering is how is this scheme is implemented in terms of how/when the coils are fired. I can think of two possibilities. One is that the coils could contain two sets of windings that are insulated from each other and operate separately (one winding set for the plug directly underneath and another for the plug attached on the other bank). The other approach would be a coil with a single set of windings, and timing such that when the coil is firing a plug on the other bank, the cylinder under the coil would be on the exhaust stroke and that plug would fire also but with no effect.
  • I found out that when asking for non-binding arbitration that my sales deal was done as an employee purchase by the dealer to get more money back from Chrysler. They did this without my knowledge. But it has the result of making only BINDING arbitration available to employee purchase people. And get this! I am NOT an employee of Dodge, Chrysler, or any of its affiliates. I am an accountant for a Real Estate place. At the time I bought the car I was UNEMPLOYED. This was done by Sundance Dodge in Boise, ID. So here it is, Chrysler has done nothing to help me customer serivce wise on a replacement. I cannot use Binding arbitration (we all know its rigged), and my only option is to sue in real court. Great customer service, huh? You might think twice about a Dodge. :sick: :sick: :sick:
  • 1997montez341997montez34 NJ, USAPosts: 202
    Wow, that is really unethical!

    We've been very pleased with our Magnum. I'd more likely steer clear of that dealership instead of DCX in general.
  • c5400hpc5400hp Posts: 11
    What did they find out when they check the oil and engine components?
  • At first the dealer said it was rings and gave me a partially rebuilt engine. But it still smokes with no change. After going back to TS&S 3 times they said "take your car and we don't want it back" "we are through with it and won't work on it anymore" . So here I sit, a defective lemon that has numerous problems and smokes, no dealer to help me, no factory to help me, and no regional reps to help me. Every one of those mentioned have passed the buck, and/or said they can't help me. I can't use arbitration. Both the dealer in Bend and Boise have commited fraud. Who is going to help?
    :sick: :sick:
  • c5400hpc5400hp Posts: 11
    Man , sounds like the same thing I went thru with my hot tub a Thermospas.
    I suggest The BBB and also the States attorney generals office will be able to assist you .
    The States attorneys office will step in asap ..I assure you of that .
    I know what your going thru to some degree and it is very disturbing when you get the run around like you did.
    I feel some dealers do the ole run around to get your temper up so to refuse you service,like I stated Thermospas did just that to me on a 10,000 tub.
    I couldnt take the run around after the 35th call and just blew! they wanted that so to refuse any service etc.
    I got the attorney generals office on it and they are all over them as we speak .
    I have seen nothing yet from either party but knowing the law is working for me somewhat of a comfort .
    Call them get the forms fill them out and get thing going with the Better business bureau also ..

    Call DC customer service # dont give up talk to and record every name of every person you speak with and what date and time helps also ..
    Keep a log of issues and all records for the states attorney .
    Is there a lemon law in your state?
    Man I can understand your grief and I hope some of this info helps.
    keep me informed..
  • c5400hpc5400hp Posts: 11
    Does your state have a lemon law?
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