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Scion xB - Hip to be square



  • I am 6'1" and do not find the seat to be low to the ground. It is surprisingly high.
  • The styling is not for the faint of heart. My wife and I really like the styling. You would be surprised at how many people come up to get information about it whenever we park the Xb.
  • carglowcarglow Posts: 91
    If you had to do it again would you still purchase an xB?
  • Abslutelypositivlydefinately, yes.
  • I now have 1,200 miles on my xB automatic. I really like the car. I have noticed some minor (?) problems and would appreciate your observations.

    1. There is a slight high-pitched twirling or ringing like noise coming from the engine or transmission under light acceleration. The dealer said he didn't hear anything abnormal and that everything would sound different after 5,000 miles.

    Has anyone noticed such a noise? Any comments?

    2. The automatic transmission's shift from 1st to 2nd seems sloppy at times compared to higher gear shifts, which are almost seamless.

    What are your observations?

    Maybe I am overly concerned, but I just want to make sure everything is right with the car. Its a great car for me.

    I have been reading this forum for months and am very much impressed with the car knowledge of many members. I would appreciate any comments.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    1200 miles is just starting to break in. It's still green and should loosen up over the next year or so.

    As to the tranny, the ratio change between 1st and 2nd is the largest step, which could explain why you feel that shift the most.

  • Did you own a small Toyota car, e.g. Corolla, Tercel, Echo, etc ..., before your xB purchase?

    Besides the obvious increase in interior room how does it compare?
  • I previously owned an Echo. I really enjoy both vehicles. The Echo is quieter and accelerates faster due to the higher gearing and lighter weight. However, the xB feels more stable and handles better. The xB interior feels more expensive and the xB definitely wins the cool factor. The only thing I really miss about the Echo is the 40 + mpg although I can live with the low 30's I've been averaging with the xB. Overall I love both vehicles and would recommend both.
  • The seating is similar to that of an mini-van! I just bought mine 2 days ago and i still can not believe how high i feel as well as the size of the windshield!
  • How is ride quality for the xB compared with the ECHO and with other small cars, particularly the Civic or Corolla?

    Most roads around my town have rough pavement, with lots of patches and bumps. Not sure if the xB would be tiring to drive around town when you get to know all of the imperfections of the road and are wincing even before you hit the rough pavement or bumps.
  • A couple recreation questions...

    Can a mtn. bike or two fit inside with the rear seats down or removed and once there, can they be secured (with bungee cords, I suppose)?

    Can you use it as a makeshift tent to sleep in when you and your kid move into the xB from the tent during the Boy Scout campout and heavy thunderstorm?

    Anybody using the xB like a Honda Element?
  • I live in New York a.k.a the pot hole capitol of the world! As I was driving I felt some of the bumps but its suspension is pretty impressive for the size and weight
  • rob999rob999 Posts: 233
    Yakima Fullswing and Backswing are two models I found that offer swing-away functionality when loaded. Also Thule Trailblazer.

    I thought RhodeGear offered a pantograph drop-down model, but I just checked their web site and could not find anything.

    Yakima and Thule products seems to be pretty well price protected, so it doesn't seem to matter where you go and the price is the same. (If anyone can recommend a discount on-line site, however, please chime in.) Your best bet might be to purchase with a retailer coupon.
  • Got it! Thanks so much.

    Since we're on the xB forum, can you tell me if a regular 26" mtn. bike will fit inside the xB? I don't want to haul one down to the dealership and scratch the bumper or inside plastics.

    Thanks in advance.
  • What about an aX?
  • My Scion dealer low-balled my trade in ($4300 on a '99 Accord LX with average miles, good quality, and Honda powertrain coverage for a couple more years). After I left, I went to my Honda dealer to look at CR-Vs. $7000 for my Accord and Edmunds' TMV for an '04 CR-V LX with side airbags.

    By the time we were done, the difference between the xB and CR-V was a couple grand, and so I chose the CR-V.

    Thanks to all who answered my questions. I look forward to seeing Scion succeed and create more interesting and versatile vehicles.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Congrats, enjoy the CR-V.

  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    Lowballing trades is how dealers make money. I got lowballed on my Civic trade in on my xA.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm not sure what the Scion margins are like, but if they are like Saturn's you'd expect plenty of leeway for the trades.

  • That seems to be where the action is, for the dealer, that is.

    I was surprised by such a low offer and decided to try my local Honda dealer. I had told the Scion salesman that I'd provide my maintenance paperwork as well as showed the salesman that the vehicle was certified by Honda until the summer of 2006. Oh well...

    I thought about selling but seeing that the CR-Vs were at the end of the model year and getting good prices, I decided to go ahead and let the Honda dealer do a trade deal on my Accord.

    I'm satisfied. I like driving it. I also liked driving the xB. I'm afraid I fall into the older-than-the-target-group market for the xB. But I appreciate it when a company puts some clever touches into their products, and Scion certainly does that.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Well, a Honda dealer probably wants clean used Hondas to sell, it only makes sense that it would be worth more to them (and cost more to buy from them).

    All other things being equal, any how.

  • You're right. One factor is that my dealer can re-certify it but only before the end of the year (which sounds like Honda will only certify within 5 calendar years or some mileage total).

    When shopping the Scions, I wondered why they didn't take the stretched wheelbase of the xB and put the xA on it. That might have settled the ride down a little, as well as put more "crumple zone" behind the rear seats, for safety sake.

    The best thing about the xB, in my experience, was the volume of space between the driver's seat and the front windshield. I could hardly grab the rearview mirror to adjust it, it was so far away. But you felt like you were in a giant vehicle and very safely back from the front of the vehicle.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Passenger space is basically enormous. If it were wider it would match a full-size car, never mind a mid-sizer.

  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,868

    $3500 for an aftermarket supercharger. Not a wise use of money IMO. Better off to buy a faster car.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    only 300 cc bigger, but 22 horsepower stronger. Same gas mileage! If only they could make it fit....
  • I'm sure it would cost more than $3500 to custom fit a 1zz into a xB, but it would produce MUCH less power than a supercharger.
  • Well, it would be interesting. But since it wouldn't easily fit, a supercharger or a turbo still makes more sense.
  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
    A new Scion Owners Club is now available on Owners Club board. Please stop by and introduce yourself in Meet the Members and let me know how I can help build your club. I have linked this discussion into that folder, but it will always reside here in Wagons.

    Looking forward to meeting everyone!

    KarenS/Senior Host/Owners Clubs

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  • wispwisp Posts: 6
    Hey all, new to this posting here. I currently have a volvo 850, which i love. However, I am schlepping kids all over town,and knowing that gas is just going to be going higher (and paying for plus octane), I am thinking about something more fuel efficient.

    First thought of the TDI Jetta wagon---I don't want to give up the roominess of my wagon. I am getting 24 in town with the Volvo, 35 or so on the hwy for the once a year trips. Plus safety and turbo and high hp.

    So---what would I be giving up if I traded down in price to the ScionB? My kids are blase about this--I think they think I am too old to drive one--though I bet the older one would be happy to take it in another year or so.

    I live where it snows, would most likely put snow tires on it---fwd is plenty good enough for me, which helps the mileage factor, as would a a manual transmission.

    Are you all seeing high 30's in town,and hopefully higher on the highway? (Not that this would be a highway car)....

    I don't know if my kids want to lose the leather and heated seats---I want reliability, good/great mileage w/o being a diesel or a hybrid...and something that has some room.

    What do you think? I noticed that our local Toyota dealer now is the Toyota/Scion dealer. I may have to go see them tomorrow.
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