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Honda Odyssey Future Models



  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    I don't want to put words in heywood1's mouth so I'll tell you what I object too in your quote regarding the demographics of typical Ody buyers:

    We should be in here discussing the pros and cons of the new Ody. Period. When you begin to bring in stereotypes regarding the typical Ody (or non-Ody) buyer, you introduce a personal aspect to the discussion. Do we really need that in here? Isn't it possible to just discuss the VEHICLE, rather than the OWNERS?
  • ace1000ace1000 Posts: 151
    The 8 passenger configuration has only 15 cupholders. So if each passenger has two drinks, someone has to hold one in his hand. I wonder if you can stick one of the drinks in the lazy susan?
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Its not even my quote! My mistake though, I shouldn't have posted excerpts from first driving impression. Seems to hurt more than it does good! Oh well, I put an end to it here.

    Not every vehicle has to feel like a Lexus. A darker shade, as long as it matches some interior color works better for me than a lighter shade that matches something else. But then, function takes precedence over form for me.
  • filodfilod Posts: 189
    I agree - let us just discuss the new ODY (what you like or don't)

    The front looks like the civic - I like it though, the rear I liked it better than the old

    Engine is great! Honda is always ahead of Toyota though in HP, but does not always translate in sales (Camry outsells the Accord and accord has more HP)

    I love the torque of the engine!
  • In the battle for top-selling mid-size sedan--Toyota includes all their fleet cars with their retail numbers to come up with the total sales.
    Honda doesn't have fleet cars; therefore, subtract the Camry fleet sales and Accord beats Camry.
  • yes those buttons have to do with the MID. It allows driver 1 and driver 2 to input their preferences for several different items; i.e. windows, lights, locks(yes, you can now program it to lock the doors after you shift from park or set the locks to lock after the vehicle begins moving.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,565
    LOL, good one.

    Maybe Honda figured that the driver had to have one hand free to drive? Assuming, that is, that the driver is not holding a drink in one hand and using a cell phone in the other and using his one little pinky to steer.

    The spin then is "Having only 15 cupholders for eight passengers is a safety feature, so one hand is free to drive!"
  • A dark dash is much less prone to reflecting on the inside of the windshield. A light dash can be very distracting and have substantial glare on the window. Of course if you wear polarized sunglasses it removes it almost completely and becomes a mute point.
  • Yes, the Sienna does have 3 equally sized narrow seats. Honda's thinking as explained at the ride and drive was make the two outside seats comfortable because that plus one will probably be a youth(or did I just imagine that is what I heard?)
  • ace1000ace1000 Posts: 151
    What do you all think of the appearance of the EX wheels and tires versus those on the Touring?
  • lok888lok888 BostonPosts: 1,788
    I wonder the Toyota vehicles have high dealer markup which leads more discounts plus cash back and factory incentive may help more sales.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,469
    Yes the Honda is probably more comfortable for two, but pity the child that has to sit in the middle. If we only had 2 kids the Ody would probably still be in the picture (I gues we could figure a way to get a DVD installed in an LX).

    The funny thing is the middle row has much more hip and shoulder room than the rear row (on both vans), which has seated 3 all along. So the three seats in the Sienna can't be that small.

    Our currenty Odyssey (Oasis) is much narrower than the new Odyssey, but 3 fit very comfortably in the middle row because the seat is more bench like.
  • And people thought I was nuts! :-)
    It is illegal for any one person to have more than one cup at the same time.
    And people thought my NAV was dangerous?
    15 coffee cups inside one vehicle is extremely dangerous!
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    I know it's hard to tell from the photos (at least, the few I've seen), but I get the impression that when the +1 center seat is in place, and the inboard armrests are raised on the captains chairs, that the mid-row essentially becomes a 3-across bench with no gaps between the individual cushions. How well that works in practice, I'll try to withhold judgement until I (or one of my kids) can give it a test sit.

    If it works alright, I think it's an ingenious approach. The one reason I struck the 8-seat Sienna version from my list was because the two outboard seats lacked armrests and didn't look nearly as comfy as the mid-row seats in the 7-seater version. Honda looks like they've found a way to offer an 8-seat version for OCCASIONAL times when 3 must fit in the 2nd row without compromising on the comfort when only two are back there.
  • "OCCASIONAL times"

    Exactly. Like they say, "It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it."

    Since the 8th seat is listed as a dealer accessory, I hope I can get that on the Touring.
  • Don't buy that new Quest until next week! You might get a bigger discount buying a Quest with "Hurricane Damage".

    Seriously, Hope everything goes well. I'll be thinking of you and your family.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Keep something in mind - kids usually sit on booster seats, at least until they're 80 lbs. Do you have 6 kids in the car, all of them heavier than 80 lbs? How often will that happen?

    Put a booster in that middle seat and you're good to go.

  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "Since the 8th seat is listed as a dealer accessory, I hope I can get that on the Touring."


    I saw where a 2nd row console was available as an accesory for the LX and EX. Didn't see where the +1 seat was available as an accesory.
  • The trouble with putting a child seat in the center is that it will most likely be wider than the "+1" seat is, overlapping to the two captains chairs. Now you're not able to fold down either side to get into the 3rd row.


    --> Andy
  • fbearfbear Posts: 117
    Good point that high production volume of Odys & Siennas plus high sales volume of late 04’s at discount could dampen initial demand compared to 99 but there is one other factor which could work the other way…

    GAS prices!

    In 99 gas was relatively cheap and SUVs were all the rage. But now, many SUV owners are rethinking driving a vehicle that cost so much at the pump every few days…EPA 30 on the highway using regular gas will sound awfully good to people whose SUVs are ready for replacement.

    Another factor pushing people to come back from an SUV to a van is the sudden presence of luxury features in a van. A few years ago you had to go SUV if you wanted the luxury amenities which you can now get on the Ody and the Sienna.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Does the 2nd row middle seat move forward like in the Sienna (and Expedition)?

    That would leave more shoulder room.

    fbear: funny timing, a friend of mine just called to say he replaced his Pathfinder with a Sienna. Fuel economy was one of his top reasons for the swap.

  • Yes, black is definitely a darker shade. The photos I've seen so far show b-l-a-c-k, black. And I believe this was even an interior shot of the 'Touring.' You're right that not every vehicle has to feel like a Lexus, but you'd think Honda would want to differentiate the interior of its highest-line Odyssey that will cost as much--or more--as some Lexus models.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 24,969
    Not sure if 25 or 28 MPG highway will be enough to get most people out of SUVs into a minivan, no matter how nice (the "soccer mom" stigma you know).

    But, we shall soon see. My wife wants a new car before Christmas, but if demand is too strong (and the Ody is what she wants), it may be sometime in 2005.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 24,969
    one other concern is getting this wide beast into the garage. I guess 1" isn't too much of a difference, but it will be a tight fit.

    ISell or any other salesguy: I assume the listed width is for the van only. Can you find out what the width is mirror tip to mirror tip, and if it is bigger/smaller than the current van?

    I guarantee that if it won't fit in the garage, my wife won't consider it. And she sure won't get out to fold the mirror in by hand to fit through the door.

    Power folders would be nice. At minimum, they better be spring loaded so they don't get ripped off if you catch the door frame.

    I hope there is a demo van available (or someone we know buys one), before I have to decide if it will fit w/o trying it out.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • Oh, I thought "PlusOne Console" meant the 8th seat.
  • fbearfbear Posts: 117
    After so many weeks of getting all excited about every tiny tidbit of info to come along this is absolute sensory overload! I am like a kid in a candy store.

    The posts are coming so fast- I am going to re-post a couple of links first put up by player4 and someone else (can't remember who) that anyone just joining the board will not want to miss.

    Link 1: Main page with links to details on interior, exterior, engine, you name it

    Link 2: 146 pictures from Honda
  • Can someone get bigger pictures for us?
    These pics are really small. I wish each pic were a full 8" size to show more details.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,469
    If the plus one seat truely made for a flat bench that would be quite nice, but it looks to me like it definately is shorter vertically and horizontally. Probably so it can fit in the lazy suzan. If the Sienna seats were just a little flatter, and the outboard seats had armrests that would be ideal for me.

    Yes the booster in the middle impedes the access to the rear (good thought otherwise), although we could shuffle things around if we needed when using the rear.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    Well, since the "PlusOne Console" was listed as an accesory for the EX and EX-L (which already have the +1 seat), I figured this was the console which is standard in the Touring. I'd be willing to bet you could pick up a +1 seat on ebay within a few months. No guarantees about whether or not it would fit; the mounting points in the floor may be different on the Touring model.

    Pictures aren't big enough? Have you had your eyes checked lately? Maybe that's why you've been so concerned over the size of the NAV screen.....8^)
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