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Lexus RX 330



  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    If it weren't for the poor exterior styling, IMMHO, of the FX I would already own one. But I guess it's the X3 for me.
  • r1_97r1_97 Posts: 181
    You'll probably get answers both yes and no as to whether it's worth it. You have all the info. Why can't you decide for yourself? For what it's worth, I don't think it's worth it.
  • Geeze, better go remove my Pink Floyd, Genesis, U2, Santana, Queen and ELP discs from the changer. Gotta put in those Classical ones ya mentioned us old fuddy duddy RX owners listen too.

    Sorry, don't have time to say more. Gotta go polish my walker......Don't forget to wash behind your ears CL. Hope you did all your homework and ate your vegies!
  • poto1xpoto1x Posts: 26
    The NHTSA website has 5 times as many complaints per Lexus RX330 sold versus Accura MDX. Why? (As Dirty Harry said "Do you feel lucky today?") ch.cfm
  • poto1x,

         Why are you on this board? Do you have anything constructive to post? I understand that you had a bad experience with Lexus/Toyota and that's unfortunate. You've posted your opinions and complaints but it seems like all of your posts are anti-Lexus/Toyota. Thank you for informing us of some of the problems you've had but now it just seems like you're just a whiner with a grudge. Buy a different brand of car and move on please! Oh and yes, I do feel lucky...I 'll take my chances with a Lexus/Toyota over 98% of the rest of the automobile field. I guess I've been pretty lucky since I've been a very satisfied Lexus/Toyota owner for the last 20 years.
  • ocuihsocuihs Posts: 138
    Looking for 2005 RX330 AWD lease specials in New Jersey, my FIFO score is 700ish.

    What are some lease specials for the following combinations? Thank you!

    Color: Bamboo Pearl

    Options: (1) Navigation with Mark L. audio, (2) Rear Seat Entertainment System, (3) Heated front seats with rain-sensing wipers.

    Lease Terms: 4 years/40 to 48K miles.
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    I just have to smile at some of the comments I read on these boards, such as cl's comment that the RX330 and FX35 drivers are such "opposite" people! Gee, let me recall if there is any truth to that comment... Yeah, I recall that the FX35 simply terrified me; the Ford Expedition was too fast and furious; and the Mercury Grand Marquis was way too cool. Prudence must have dictated that I buy the RX330.

    We've had our RX330 for 20K miles now, with no regrets. As you mentioned, it is quieter, more practical, provides more cargo space, and typically provides better fuel economy. (We now average about 22mpg on 70% freeway and 30% short urban driving with our 2wd model). On top of that, I have a little secret to divulge: After our engine was fully broken in (>10-15K miles), our RX330 started to scoot. It now exhibits no trouble getting out of its own way. I'm beginning to believe those acceleration numbers within the sales brochure. (0-60 in 7.7 sec)

    By the way, you have excellent taste in music. I noticed our base RX sound system performs admirably with "A Trick of the Tail" and "Wish You Were Here". Unfortunately, I keep forgetting to load my Lawrence Welk or Englebert Humperdink CDs it it!
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    If you want a better "apples to apples" comparison, then compare against other models during their first year of production. It is always the first year when a car has the largest number of "bugs" and complaints.

    Don't use a 2004 MDX as a comparison. The MDX has not changed significantly since 2001. Sales for the 2004 MDX did not start until Fall 2003. In contrast, the RX was completely redesigned for 2004. Also, note that Lexus has been heavily selling the 2004 RX330 since early Spring 2003.

    With that in mind, let's compare the 2001 MDX, which was the first year of production for the existing MDX, to the 2004 RX330.

    Total complaints for 2001 MDX: 41
    Total complaints for 2004 RX330: 47

    I think it is safe to guess that Lexus has probably sold 3x the volume of '04 RX330s versus the number of 2001 MDX's sold by Acura. Hence, the number of complaints for car sold is far lower for the 2004 RX330 than for the 2001 MDX.

    One last note: Many of the 47 complaints on this web site were essentially repeats of other complaints already posted there.

    I agree with colvert. Your posts are very anti-Lexus without providing much support nor any of your personal experiences. How do we know you are not a troll who works at a competing dealership?
  • gardencargardencar Posts: 293
    Hear, hear, colvert and cotmc. I hear you both. By the way, that was a very fact filled post, cotmc. Kudos.

    Although poto1x seems to post nothing but negative and exaggerated facts about Lexus/Toyota, I read them with humor and indignance. I am also hoping he'll come out with something constructive.

    Colvert, as I remember, poto1x's original beef, before it was mired in his barrage of other complaints, was with the transmission hesitation in the RX. From there, he branched out swiftly into Lexus/Toyota's denial of the engine sludge problem (for which they finally took responsibility), segueing to another beef of how Toyota made billions more than GMC, Ford, and Chrysler combined, and so on and so forth.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    Nice to see there are some RX owners with some Moxy lol. Just wish your car had some too lol.
    Seriously the RX is not an exciting car to drive and that was my priority not space not comfort but the grin when I hit the gas.

    If comfort and space was my main concern I may be in an RX but I have a pilot that has plenty of space (3rd row seat) and a lot of comfort so when I want those things I have a vehicle for that.

    I just think the RX is too much of a compromise for a real driver to enjoy. But I do admit it is a great car if it is for you.
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    if you don't like a post - scroll past it.

    Knock off the personal attacks and get back to the discussion.
  • Sorry Sylvia! I don't mean to be petty or negative or intend my post to be interpreted as a personal attack. I do appreciate the diversity of posts on this board, especially the negative or bad experiences because they may point to a problem I may have. It just becomes obvious and annoying when someone is on this board just to knock Lexus/Toyota.

    Cotmc- great post. Your statistics make an outstanding point.

    Gardencar- I, too, remember the original complaint and it is valid, as evidenced by the numerous previous posts discussing the issue. I think we all agree that the RX330 is not perfect and has some issues and that's a big purpose for this board. Again, I apologize, but I became annoyed at the obvious antagonism and felt like I had to speak up. I must have been having a bad day!
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    gardencar: cl makes a good point. It's nice to have a "fun" driver to go along with our "practical" RX330. With that in mind, have you decided on your other vehicle?
  • I have a RX330 FWD. Where I live, the terrain is pretty flat, no major up and down hills.

    What is the best mode to drive? in D or 4 on the autotransmission?

    My wife said she drive in 4. She thinks it give her faster pickup from traffic stop, and "4 drives more quietly than D."

    What is the difference between driving in 4 and driving in D mode?

    I personally think it makes no difference. No difference in pick up speed from traffic stop. No difference in gas milage consumption.

    What do the experts say?
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    In D is 5th gear.
    4 is 4th gear.

    If you're driving in 4th gear constantly, you are using more gas because the engine is revving faster.

    How can 4 be quieter than D on the open highway? Driving in D means 5th gear. Along with driving in 5th opposed to 4th means lower engine revolutions which typically lowers noise.

    Acceleration from a standstill will not change at all, whether your car is in 4th or D(5th). The transmission still starts in 1st gear, goes to 2nd, etc.
  • Thank you for your reply.

    Now if you could teach me something about transmission 101.

    Can you drive from a complete stop, start with gear 1, as it picks up speed, shift to 2, then 3, 4, and finally D. Would this give you faster pick up time?

    Now, can you down shift on the go to a complete stop, gradually down shift from D, to 4, then 3, 2, 1. Would this practice ruin the transmission?

    I have never shifted gears while driving. So what is the best scenario for doing this?
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    "Can you drive from a complete stop, start with gear 1, as it picks up speed, shift to 2, then 3, 4, and finally D. Would this give you faster pick up time? "

    First, the computer can shift gears faster than a person can on a automatic equipped car. So I think you would actually get decreased acceleration. Second, if she want's to shift manually, shouldn't she have gotten a manual equipped car?

    "Now, can you down shift on the go to a complete stop, gradually down shift from D, to 4, then 3, 2, 1. Would this practice ruin the transmission? "

    I would recommend against doing this on a regular basis. It is a automatic transmission and you break it, it will cost at least $5K for a new one.
    It's much cheaper to replace brakes. Also, to some extent, modern automatics do provide some engine breaking, so what's the point of downshifting?

    I would say the best scenerio is to leave the tranny in "D" and let the various computers do everything for you.
  • btill1btill1 Posts: 69
    We just received a letter from our dealer Lexus of Northboro MASS, they are offering a buy back program where they would purchase your vehicle back for 100% "market value" for exchange on a new Lexus vehicle. Has anybody else received a similar letter. My one question is what is "100% market value"
    We have a 2004 RX 330 are there any major differences with a 2005 RX 330? Is the navigation system worth the extra money?

    Thanks, Brian
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    BY Market value, I'm sure that they probably mean wholesale trade-in value according to NADA guides, auction guides, etc.

    I don't think they are going to give you any more than you normally would if they weren't running that so called "program".
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    Don't know what your post said or if it was aimed at me.

    I am not knocking the lexus. I have helped numerous friends shop both the RX300 and RX330 because they were looking for a reliable, comfortable luxurious SUV. However if a fun drive is your main concer it may not be the vehicle for you. I also think those that may like the style of the FX and the comfort of the RX may be duly suited with the RX instead of the FX.

    Many FX owners have complained about harsh rides or seat comfort etc. These people may have loved the style and features of the FX but did not appreciate the vehicle for what it is. One car article called it a sports car with a back pack and that is what it intends to be and we owners who like it make no excuses for it.

    The RX out sells every other luxury suv and the FX nearly 2 to 1. It is a great car but it wasn't for me and may not be for like minded indivuals.

    However if Lexus made a slightly longer RX with a third row seat. I would consider trading my pilot for it.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    You might arm yourself with information from TMV new car prices, used car pricing, used car values at Edmunds

    tidester, host
  • gardencargardencar Posts: 293
    Hey, cotmc. I I've been looking at Miata's and even the Mazda RX8's. However, my wife's refusal to learn to drive a stick is kinda putting a damper on buying a bona fide sports car right now. We also went to look at some certified E430's and some 5 series Bimmers. For a short time after test driving a Cayenne S, finding out that it has a 7700# towing capacity, and that they are now 9% off MSRP, we thought about trading in our beloved RX330 for a titanium or brilliant silver Cayenne! However, a few days after leaving the Porsche dealership, sanity returned as the memory of the test drive ebbed away. Right now we're looking at GS400's...

    You are right about cl's point. It's good to have a fun car to drive. However, seeing as he already has a Pilot, it's puzzling that he would get an FX. Although it handles better than the RX, it is no sports car. I didn't reply to his rather challenging post before, but seeing that he is rather tenacious (no insult intended, Sally), I will put my two cents in.

    Before buying the RX330, the FX was one of the crossovers I test drove. The styling was unusual but trendy, IMO. I felt the RX had a classic look that would not look dated even five years from now. Cargo space and utility were no contest. I instantly was unimpressed with the FX's interior. After the two mile test drive in the FX45, I felt the acceleration exhilarating, the handling on par with the X5, but below par with the X3. The ride was even stiffer than either of the BMW's and even though I did feel it would be fun to drive around town,I knew it was not a highway cruiser. It would be too punishing for the three plus hour drives, out of town, that my new car would serve duty for. In the end, tight handling and speed had to take a back seat (pun intended) to comfort and luxury. If it hadn't, I'd be in a Bimmer right now, or even a Cayenne.

    By the way, I listen to the Herdsmen, the Wonders, Earth Wind and Fire, Shania Twain, John Meyers, Kenny G, ABBA, the Bee Gees, Outkast, Fifty Cent, and Ludicrous, among others. Depends on the day.
  • bennbbennb Posts: 143
    this means nothing ... it's just their way of trying to get you in the trade up for a new car ... you're not getting any special deal ... they're just mentioning it to give you intrigue. Do you want an '05? Go for it ... if you're happy ... stick with your car. You won't get any special deal over just walking into the dealership off the street.
  • volaravolara Posts: 5
    Does anybody have statistics regarding the proportion of men/women driving Rx? Is it my imagination that most drivers of Rx are females?
    Would appreciate opinions.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    I read them a while back for the 1st generation RX, the RX300. I believe it was close to 60% female, 40% male. The RX330, supposedly, has brought it closer to 50/50. OF course, the male/female proportion numbers aren't fully correct because of factors like husbands buying them for their wives, etc.

    You may find it interesting, but the proportion of men/women BMW 3-series and Z3 owners/drivers leaned more towards women drivers also.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    But then how many women dictate the purchase of what their husbands drive them around in?

    It was my wife that really chose teh RX300 that I drive her around in.
  • Anyone have experience buying an aftermarket towing hitch as opposed to the one sold at the Lexus dealership?
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    It was my wife that decided the less-expensive Nissan Murano would not suit her. Simultaneously, my bank account statements were telling me the RX330 would not suit me; that is, until you announced rumors of good discounts in southern california back in June '03.

    Even though I'm the big mouth within this forum, the RX is really my wife's car.
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    I purchased an aftermarket tow hitch from Curt Manufacturing. It looks great, and it was easy to install. Note that I am using this exclusively for a hitch-mounted bike rack. I did not provide for a wiring harness. My cost was $110 + $25 shipping. I provide further details within post #2864 and #2882.

    If you perform a search within this forum for "tow hitch", you should find many posts regarding tow hitches, including after-market models. There was quite a bit of discussion about tow hitches within this discussion topic.
  • armanarman Posts: 2
    Curt aftermarket tow hitch for RX 330 is on Ebay for $92.00 and $23.00 for shipping. I think that is a good price. The seller is TopTenHitch and has a very good feedback.
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