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Lexus RX 330



  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    You may want to weigh in here:

    dealer13 "Kia Sorento" Oct 21, 2004 6:21am


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  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    I am glad the RX was the right choice for you it is a wonderful car just wasn't right for me.

    I live in Texas now where 7 out of 10 vehicles is an SUV or Pickup. I chose the FX as my "Fun Car" because I liked it every since it was a concept and the crash compatibility with larger vehicles on the road. Also I am A Big Guy so I don't fit to well in a lot of smaller cars. The FX has plenty of room and comfort for my needs. It also served me well on a 2500+ mile tripmy family of four took last year. I am looking at a sedan/coupe (m45, Pontiac GTO) for my next fun car purchase but do not know if I can give up all the features and driving position of the FX.

    I like the RX and if they put an adjustable suspension with a good sport setting and a beefier steering wheel on the 400H that may also make the list.
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    Hey, gardencar. Keep up the good hunt, and please let me know what you decide to bring home to your garage.

    For what it's worth, I had checked out a used E-Class and a '99 GS400 before I settled on my '00 5-series. This was back in May-July 2002. Even though it was only the 6-cylinder 528i, it was equipped with the sport and premium packages, and I found it to be more interesting to drive than the other models. I liked its steering, handling, and road manners the best. The GS400 was faster, but, in comparison to the BMW, it didn't seem as fun to drive, imo. For the cockpit, I liked both the BMW and the Lexus GS interiors more than the MB. When you consider other factors, such as customer service and long-term reliability, I certainly see why the GS might be at the top of your list.

    We used to own a '99 Miata, which was the best value in a sports car we've ever owned. Driving this with the top down almost always brought a smile to my face. I agree that it probably wouldn't be the same if you equip it with an auto instead of a stick. I also like many aspects of the RX-8, except for the poor fuel economy. I think Edmunds is averaging only 17-18 mpg on their long-term RX-8 tester. I've seen other RX-8 owners complain about poor mileage within these forums. There is something about that little rotary engine that drinks down the gasoline. I find it amazing that a practical and reasonably powerful SUV like the RX330 gets better gas mileage than a little lightweight sports car! In fact, I believe the RX330 2WD model has a higher highway EPA rating than either the RX-8 or the IS300.
  • gardencargardencar Posts: 293
    I'm glad the FX is working out so well for you. In general, my younger friends (early twenties) prefer its styling and agility. A majority of my older friends (late thirties) however, prefer the RX. Seems like you stirred up a baby hornet's nest. Thanks!

    It's great when we can agree to disagree.
  • gardencargardencar Posts: 293
    Hey, cotmc. Thanks for your helpful thoughts, they are appreciated. I had forgotten that your moniker had come from the fact that you've had so many different vehicles over the years. Seems that we share similar tastes in vehicles.

    We were looking at the eight cylinder models because in the used car market, they seem to give you the best bang for your buck. I also think the Bimmer was the most fun to drive, but I agree that in longevity and reliability, the GS400 has a decided edge.

    Things have been somewhat hectic around here, so the burn to buy our "fun" car has cooled somewhat. We aren't in dire need at the moment, so we intend to savor and enjoy the "hunt", as you aptly put it. We will definitely let you know what finally ends up in our garage.

    Never did hear if you and your family took a road trip to Clear Lake in July, or decided on a different destination. We were there in early July before travelling out of state for the remainder of it. Happy motoring!
  • gardencargardencar Posts: 293
    Somebody else posted a similar question regarding the RX, except that they wanted opinions on which of the RX's colors were more feminine and which more masculine. I've never really thought of cars this way. IMO, they are unisex and the person driving them determines whether it is more masculine or feminine.

    But FYI, since my wife is a stay at home mom, it was agreed I would be using it more of the time for business or our trips to the lake, when we weren't towing anything. As it turned out, my wife prefers driving our Explorer, and like a good husband, I acquiesced to her wishes and now am the primary driver of the RX330.
  • Hey Everyone! Just checking in to give an update on my experience thus far. Most of you know I spent ALOT of time (about 1.5 years) lurking on the boards and trying to find the right fit for me. Well I went with the RX and I LOVE IT. I average about 23 mpg on my tank (I have a 2WD), I have grown to love and appreciate the auto windshield wipers, and the quiet ride is UNDENIABLE. So far so good. I have not had any of the problems others had mentioned before (knock on wood), and my husband loves to drive it as well. Although, he is looking at the GS and LS for himself right now. Just wanted to give an update, and I will continue to lurk.
  • hfanghfang Posts: 31
    My wife was in a rear end accident about a month ago (her RX rear ended someone) and resulted in quite a bit of damage (about $22K) - front airbags deployed, and the front was pretty much caved in, but no engine issues as far as I can tell. Just got it back, and it looks great and rides as before. Our intent when we purchased this car was to keep it for a long time (7+yr, 100+K miles); would you guys trade it in and get a new one, or keep it as originally planned? We're not upside down on the car, or anything that would prohibit trading in the car-

  • hfanghfang Posts: 31
    Her RX truly runs as new (right now), and all the replacement parts were new. But the entire front (fenders, hood, front doors, etc) were all repainted (flint mica). What kind of hit would it take at trade in if that were the course we were to take?

  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Check out Pricing used vehicles involved in accidents/reconditioned, especially posts about diminution in value of a vehicle after a wreck.

    Oh, nevermind, you found it.

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  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    The e-brochure for the AWD 2005 RX330 at indicates that the VC, viscous coupling, is back for 05.

  • what is viscous coupling?
  • I was coming back from a store, and I noticed a nail on my tire. The nail appears to go at an angle, but not into the sidewalls.

    So, I drive back home and try to figure out how badly damaged the tire is. I got some pliers and pulled it out. The nail was about and 1 inch long. The surprising thing is that the tire didn't deflate at all. I checked it out the next day and the tire seems to be find.

    I will eventually have to get a new tires, my tire tread is showing signs of wear already. Anybody know a good place to get some new tires. I have the 18 inch rims. The dealer charges $215 a piece for Michelin tires.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Sorta like an LSD, limited slip differential but done with molasses and clutch disks.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
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     Response 10/27/2004 09:41 AM
    Dear Mr. West,

    Thank you for contacting Lexus Customer Satisfaction regarding the 2005 RX 330. We appreciate your interest in this vehicle.

    Per our technical department, the 2005 RX 330 does not have a viscous coupling LSD. The vehicle has adopted a full-time all-wheel drive system. We are sorry for the misinformation.

    If you would like to discuss your concerns further, you can also reach the Lexus Customer Satisfaction Department at 1-800-255-3987, Monday through Friday, 6:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Pacific Time.

    Lexus Customer Satisfaction
     Customer (Willard West) 10/26/2004 04:59 PM
    The current 2005 RX330 e-brochure indicates that the 2005 AWD RX330 has the viscous coupling again.

    Is this actually true or is this a typo?

    Willard West
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081 is currently selling the 18" Michelin tires (for RX330) at $128 each. Considering you'll pay a small additional fee for shipping and for mounting, you might see if a local chain can come close to matching tirerack's prices (i.e., $160 or less, per tire, "out the door" -- after adding all the dealer fees and taxes). If not, have no fear with tirerack. I've used them several times, and they seem to be very popular within these automotive enthusiast forums.

    PS: I would never pull out a nail on my own. Most tire dealers (incl dealers that do not sell that brand of tire) are willing to assess and repair a flat. For about $10, they dismount the tire, examine the puncture, and apply an appropriate plug.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    A few of the big chains, at least out West, will do that free - I've had several flats fixed gratis at Les Schwab, and I think Big O does the same.

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  • gardencargardencar Posts: 293
    Cotm is right about not pulling out the nail. It is the only thing that might be preventing rapid deflation of your tire.

    Nowadays, many places don't even dismount the tire. They simply insert a plug, and off you go. It takes all of ten minutes.
  • gardencargardencar Posts: 293
    Hi, ladyofluxury. Glad to hear you are back. I guess you must have been busy keeping us safe here at home, through all that's been happening in Iraq.

    Good to hear you are enjoying worry free times in your RX. Your husband can't go wrong with either the GS or the LS. I know the LS430 is a sweet ride. The GS is due for a facelift next year. You might want to wait until you see one. Good Luck.
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    Steve: I don't know much about Les Schwab, but it sure seems his brother Charles isn't doing such a great job of keeping things inflated during the past few months. And to add insult to injury, Charles charges $19.95! ;-)
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    I think Les's financials are better, but he's selling something tangible :-)

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  • ctk1ctk1 Posts: 79
    Does anyone where to get a good deal on OEM mudguards? The local dealer part dept. price for 127.30 for the set (front & rear mud guards)

  • Hi Everybody,

    I'm checking into the RX 330 and was wondering if someone could give me a measurement of the cargo floor length when the back seat is folded down. I haven't been able to find this measurement anywhere. I have to carry a piece of equipment from time to time and this measurement is important as to whether the RX330 would work for me or not.


  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    The cargo floor length will vary a little based on the location of the front seats. For my normal seating position (I'm 6 ft tall), I measured 71" along the cargo floor from the back of the driver's seat to the rear door. (In all honesty, I could easily move the seat forward at least another 1", maybe 2", to provide a little extra cargo space, when needed.)
    This measurement drops by 3" if the cargo is greater than 3-4" tall, due to curvature of the seatbacks. This measurement will drop a little further for tall (>2ft) cargo, due to the curved rear hatch door.
    Hope this helps, and hope these measurements work for you.
  • Thanks for the reply!

  • mcs19mcs19 Posts: 14
    I saw a recent post referencing active steering on the RX 330 for 2005. I saw no reference to this feature on the Lexus website. Can anyone tell me what it is and how it affects the drive. I love the look of the car, but when I drove a 2004 I was somewhat dissappointed with the cushy feel. I did not get a strong sense of road feel that you get when driving a BMW. Does this feature (if it exists) change that? Does the optional air suspension add anything to the sportiness of the vehicle. Any thoughts or comments are appreciated.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    BMW or MB, don't remember which, has added an open differential in the stearing box with a servomotor at the other input, opposite the stearing wheel shaft.

    The idea is to use the servomotor to vary the stearing ratio as circumstances warrant. But the big part of this "invention" is to be able to counterstear against your input should the vehicle not be able to remain stable with your wider, unmodified, inputs.

    Touted as being faster reacting than the current, VSC, PSM, etc, brake modulation method.

    Sorta like that airbus that went down in the french forest years ago, the fly-by-wire system decided that the pilot was asking to climb too rapidly and so it "counter-steared" the elevators to prevent the airplane from climbing above the trees.

    Gee, the computer didn't see those trees!

    Not saying that Lexus' active stearing is the same as above.....
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    You must have missed my other reply about the Airbus Wwest - I think your version is an urban legend.

    steve_ "Toyota Highlander" Sep 12, 2004 11:33am

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  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    It was certainly the pilot's error to have gotten into a circumstance wherein he needed more climb rate than the airframe could produce without be overstressed, having the wings buckle...

    But in the end the simulations indicated that although the airframe would have likely been severely overstressed to the point of being scrap metal the likelihood that, had not the firmware limited the climb level, all would have survived was confirmed.

    Regardless, I'll always make my own call to recover from a skid, if I crash it will definitely be pilot error.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    If you like I can arrange an interview with one of the Boeing engineers who was key to writing the specifications for the 777 fly-by-wire flight control firmware and/or one of the QA folks who was responsible for confirming that the 777 firmware had no such limitations, intentional or other wise.

    No, the airbus firmware flaw is based on actual fact.
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