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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I hear that hp rating is actually under-rated! And I never thought it looked really all that bad. It's not sleek, but when I see one coming down the road, my first impression certainly wouldn't be that it's an ugly car.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,334
    Consider a CPO 335i vs. a new 135i.

    Personally I like the E90 Sedans & think they are very handsome

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,664
    I hear that hp rating is actually under-rated.

    BMW typically underrates the HP of their cars. MY 528 is rated @ 194hp, feels like it has around 220.

    I'm fine with the appearance of the Oners. They aren't beautiful but have a cheeky, sporty look IMO. The convertible is the best looking, as nice top down as the 3 series cabrio and better with the top up since the 3er cab's top looks odd from some angles.

    Oner Coupes look good in Black.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,334
    With a Red Leather Interior...very cool

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • I agree with you about looks vs. HP. I originally thought the 335i convertible was the better looker, but ended up buying the 135i cabrio for the performance. Although both share the same engine, the 135i's dimensions make it faster and more agile.

    Looks wise, I now prefer the 1's looks over the 3's. Although the 3 coupe is sleeker and more elegant, the 1 just looks sportier and more muscular. The 135i definitely looks better than the 335i in the convertible, top up or down, IMO.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    No comparison with the convertibles. I would never choose an overweight, complex, metal-hinged contraption when I could have a simple cloth top. A manual one like the Miata's is ideal - keep it simple.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    "I would never choose an overweight, complex, metal-hinged contraption when I could have a simple cloth top."

    You might, if you lived in a rain-forest like the Pacific Northwest!
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    What are you talking about? The weather is beautiful up here ;) (and my Miata top never leaked a drop).
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Oh, are you in the Seattle area? I didn't realize that. :blush: Well, we get even more rain here in Vancouver! I figure if the top is going to be up for most of of the time in 8 months out of the year, I may as well get the security of a retractible hardtop. And I'm not sure I would like the rain-drop-on-tent sound effect all that time!
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Yeah, you've got a point there. I forgot about that sound, although it never bothered me. I've never driven in one, but aren't those thickly padded and lined tops like on a Mercedes or Audi supposed to be very quiet?
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,056
    Well, we get even more rain here in Vancouver!

    Well, it depends.

    When I lived in Richmond (where the airport is, for those who aren't familiar with Vancouver geography), the average annual rainfall was a fraction (a third or less) of the averages for the North Shore, where I also lived for a couple of years.

    They grow hay in Sequim, in the rain shadow of the Cascades, while it pours not far away.

    All of it is better than the desert.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I've never had the privilege to drive one of those either, but I sure do remember the sound the rain made on the soft top of the Fiat that my friend had in high school. (Although with that Fiat my friend would have been ecstatic if he only heard the water on the roof every time it rained, if you know what I mean! ):P
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    "All of it is better than the desert."

    So then I wonder why do so many Canadians retire to Arizona. :confuse: Must be for the year-round golfing, since it can't be for the hockey!
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,056
    Well, I'm not retired, but my wife is from here & the aerospace company where I've worked for 29+ years is here, so I'm here too, sadly.:cry:

    Think of me the next time you go through Active Pass and watch bald eagles fishing for salmon. I used to do that, in my sailboat.
  • sonic2000sonic2000 Posts: 11
    Can somebody recommend where to buy this kind of parts?
    Like Thule TH460R. RB43. 3028, which bike carrier is better, etc.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,334
    I've got the Thule racks on my '01 Prelude and love 'em. They are super sturdy and once you figure out how to put them on, it is a quick and easy 5 minute hob to take on and off.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • runningdocrunningdoc Posts: 32
    So a question for you owners of the 128i series. I am looking at purchasing one, and trying to get feedback from previous owners. In particular, I'd like your thoughts of the pros and cons of the car in your opinion... I'd appreciate any input or experience of current owners!

  • podpod Posts: 176
    I would identify the 128i as my choice were I able to buy a new car at this time. I live in the Northeast and travel on interstates frequently as well as the usual local driving. Despite effort I have only seen one 1 series BMW in the two years since they arrived. I'm beginning to think that the car is a hoax like the moon landing. Where are they selling and showing?
  • nkeennkeen SE PennaPosts: 313
    Has anyone had a chance to compare the M-Sport to the standard suspension (with performance tires, not the available all-seasons which presumably bring a lower speed limiter with them) on the 135i? I assume both suspensions are the same and that the M-Sport is differentiated only by the use of the staggered tire set up.

    The 1 series is reported to understeer more than the 3. If my assumption about setup is correct, does the standard car give more neutral (less understeer) handling than the M-Sport?
  • mr42hhmr42hh Posts: 9
    The 135i isn't available with standard suspension. Only M-Sport.

    Do they really make them available with all season tires in America? Does anybody want all seasons, ever, at all?
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,664
    Does anybody want all seasons, ever, at all?

    Yep, the only way to get decent tread mileage is with all-seasons, I find that I can't get much more than 15,000 miles on sticky-tread summer performance tires. There are plenty of performance rated A/S tires that'll deliver twice that mileage on a rwd car.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • nkeennkeen SE PennaPosts: 313
    Understood -- but I wondered whether the staggered wheel set up on the cars with the the M-Sport option affects the understeer/oversteer equation when compared with the standard setup.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Reading the specs, both packages (Sport and M Sport) have the same suspension and staggered setup. The difference, besides some trim, appears to be "performance tires" in the Sport Package vs. "mixed performance tires" in the M Sport Package.

    So, what are "mixed performance tires?" Beats me.

    As for understeer/oversteer. Lots of factors play into the understeer equation. On the 135i, the staggered sized wheels as well as more weight over the nose makes it more likely to push. No doubt, BMW designed the suspension to compensate (roll bar thickness, spring rates, rebound dampening, etc.) to make the 135i handle the way they want it to.

    On the 128i, certainly a lighter nose and 4 identical tires all around make for less tendency to understeer - and the all-seasons have less grip than "performance" tires, which affects handling balance too.

    Personally, I think the 128i with standard suspension is the most neutral and entertaining to drive. More than enough power to light up the tires, and less grip means it's easier to get the car sideways.
  • nkeennkeen SE PennaPosts: 313
    You're right. Thanks for your attention to detail.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,664
    So, what are "mixed performance tires?" Beats me

    They probably mean performance rated all seasons. Tirerack lists several categories of these>

    Ultra High Performance All-Season
    You want all-season versatility (including light snow traction) and are willing to trade some dry and wet traction and handling to get it.

    High Performance All-Season
    You want all-season versatility (including light snow traction) to drive your sports coupe or sedan in all weather conditions.

    Performance All-Season
    You want all-season versatility (including light snow traction) with a mixture of performance and appearance at a reasonable price.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • davidc1davidc1 Posts: 168
    I think what they mean by "mixed" is different tire sizes front and rear. Rear should be wider like 245 vs. 225 for front.
  • zigster38zigster38 Posts: 116
    Love to get a 128i but am holding out for when BMW brings in the four cylinder diesels in a few years. Should be a great car with great mileage!
  • I live in NJ...bought 128i convertible (loaded)...had a few minor problems dealer fixed no problem...but I have to tell you....I LOVE IT....bought car day after thanksgiving 2008 and have had it approx 1 year to date...simply awesome.... peppy, rides great, turns on a dime, hugs the road like a bmw, gas mileage 21-25 consistantly, but most of all.. love it with the top down and the comments people always make.
    Standard Stereo pretty good also. All together....nice car for the deal I got....and believe me I tested them all and did my homework.
  • Love the 128i but concerned about not having all wheel drive or at least front wheel drive for snow would i be better off with the 328i? I hate to give up the size etc of the 128i.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,334
    buy yourself a set of 4 dedicated winter rims & tires and you will not have any problem

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

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