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Chevrolet Cobalt



  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 9,655
    Tom, I'd like to think that I am that kind of customer as well. I am particular about my cars, and I kid the Service Manager about what their computer has written after my name! I have a lot of confidence in my dealership's Service Department, and that is Montrose Chevy of Kent, OH. But I like them and think I treat them well and go there for all service needs, including oil changes. My Uplander has been more problematic than my other Chevys before, but they have treated me well there.

    My Cobalt was only built in April '08, but since I've seen your posts I've checked for water leaks. None visible to me anywhere. I do have a wind 'rustle' or slight 'roar' at the driver's door at about 70 mph, but I'm taking it in a week from now for that.

    I have the XFE model. My wife took it to Rochester, NY and back this weekend, and I set the mpg meter before she left and when I filled the tank for her. It read 35.9 average mpg when she got back. I hope it's pretty accurate. If it is, I am delighted.

    I'm sold on the satellite radio, too..I'm sure I'll renew it when the three months are up!

    I got ABS on mine, too, which resulted in quite a search to find one (located one five hours away). Rare option on an otherwise-strippo LS with 5-speed.

    They are built only about thirty-five miles from here, and I like that too...frosting on the cake!

    You mentioned you had a Vega GT Kammback built at Lordstown. I know that Vegas are the Rodney Dangerfield of small cars, but for styling, they sure beat a Pinto or Gremlin didn't they (not to mention '70's Japanese cars). When you got a GT with the Custom interior, you had a great-looking car with a luxurious, Camaro-like interior! I'd want a '75 red Kammback GT with white side striping and black Custom interior.

    Bill P.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    Enjoyed reading your post.

    I think my 72 Vega GT Kammback just might have been the prettiest car I have ever owned. This picture does not do it justice.

    How did you get the build date on your car? Is there a tag on them somewhere that gives the actual date and not just the month?

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 9,655
    That silver color with the black hood stripe still looks great by today's standards! I always thought the wagon was the best-looking Vega bodystyle. Having the GT package available on the wagon was a neat thing. I remember thinking how unusual that was when the Vega was first introduced and I saw a GT wagon in the brochure.

    About my Cobalt's wind noise from the driver's door..I know it sounds unbelievable, but today for the first time, I moved the remote mirror control (manual-remote) on the driver's door around significantly to get it right where I wanted it after my wife drove the car on a trip all weekend. Amazingly, I heard no wind noise at all on my 96-mile commute this morning at speeds of up to 75mph. I think the wind noise may have been coming through the mirror or its remote!

    Bill P.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 9,655
    I only know from the driver's door jamb sticker, that my car was built in April '08. When my dealer was searching for a 5-speed Cobalt LS sedan with ABS, they were able to determine that the car they dealer-traded for and that I bought, had only been in the original dealer's inventory eight days.

    Bill P.
  • the_big_althe_big_al Posts: 1,079
    Plastic is plastic? Yes, but like stated in other reviews there are tons of differnt types of plastic... I'll bet that the next time you get into your car take a good look at your dash and door panels. You will notice at least 2 kinds of plastic if not more. In my dash (I drive an '01 S-10 - and why am I in a Cobaly forum? - Because I am researching to help my sister decide on a Cobalt - Won't be hard considering she drive an '02 Cavalier that is ready to fall apart.) Anyway on the dash itself, there is the vinyl dash cap that is soft to the touch and that feels fairly sturdy as it has a fairly sturdy backing. This goes clear across the top of the dash and wraps down on the passenger side where the air bag is. Then under that where the glove box is located is the harder, hollow sounding stuff which I hate. It looks like Fisher Price manufactured it. The same stuff is also used to form the instrument cluster bezel. This is the piece that is most commonly taken and painted by customizors wanting to add a splash of color to their interiors. More often than not, it only make the inside look slighty less than silly. So there are two types. Than there is the clear lexan (but I doubt it's Lexan) that makes up the instrument window through which you view your gauges. Also the same hard plastic that makes up the Dash Bezel is also used on the door panels. If you have the LS models as I have there is also a vinyl that is "leather" like at the top. Cloth is also used, but if you have just the base, than hard molded plastic is the only thing making up the door panel. It is also just one piece and looks like it stepped off a Fisher Price plant. The A pillar caps also are made out of the same hard stuff that have snaps on the back of them and snap into the pillar using metal clips where if removed even just once say to run a speaker wire or XM radio antenna, you'll be lucky to get them to secure as snugly as before and be prone to constant rattling there after. This same plastic is also used on the door sills. The center consol is also made out plastic, but whether it is the same stuff as the Pillar and Dash Bezel I do not know. I do know that the center consol storage cover is made out the same soft vinyl that covers the Dash cap which make for easy cleaning, but also offers a comfortable place to rest an arm. It will also not wear thin like a cloth cover will and will stay cleaner than a cloth cover will. The steering wheel itself, if not leather covered will be covered by a type of vinyl or plastic. The air bag cover is made out of plastic most likely a kind designed or cut along the back to break and tear to let the air bag out upon deployment.

    So to make my point - there is plastic everywhere you turn in your vehicle and not all of it is the same. Unfortuneatly GM in the past has chosen to use the hard stuff that looks cheap, although in the long run could be fairly durable. The interior of my '01 S-10 is almost 5 years old, has nearly 100K on it of good use and when I give it a good cleaning, looks as good as it did when I bought it new. It is no worse for wear.

    The imports have long been praised for their "high" quality interiors and I have noticed it is because of the generous use of "higher" quality plastics. I was in a Honda Accord the other day and noticed it used a softer more supple material for the dash and door panels as compared to my Impala which was the same year and comparably equipped which had the hard plastic dash and door panels. It also had hard plastic covering the A and B pillars wheras the Honda had cloth covering the A and B pillars, thereby looking much better and had the whole car had a much higher quality feel to it.

    GM has gotten much better at making the interiors of their cars much more livable in terms of quality and so in a sense plastic is not plastic?? It can be used to make a car's interior look high class or it can be used to make a car's interior look like it was designed and built by Fisher Price. It all depends on how it is formed and manufactured...
  • the_big_althe_big_al Posts: 1,079
    You know - here is an interesting thought... I test drove a Cobalt the other day - both an SS Supercharged and an SS 2.4L. Both were very good cars and head and tails above the Cavalier. The reason I was there is my sister is actually looking at the Cobalt and I went with her to look. She currently has a Cavalier and even though it is only 4 years old and has yet to break the 70K barrier it sounds like it is ready to fall apart. Everything rattles, the motor sounds like it is going to throw a rod and everything is feels loose or not secured from the door panels to the seat backs. So when we got into a Cobalt, of course we were blown away by how much better it was. Then the salesman made an interesting comment. He said that most of the buyers he had were Cavalier owners and were finding out the same thing that my sister and I did. That indeed the Cobalt was indeed not just a Cavalier make-over.

    But I wonder, even though the Cobalt is this good, is it because I am used to a Cavalier which is so bad?? Or is it really that good?? And is it better than the Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla? It's good enough for those of us who have been laden with the sub-par Cavalier since we didn't know what we were missing, but is it good enough to woo current Civic and Corolla owners when it time to replace thier cars? The Corolla doesn't even come in coupe form, but even still does the Cobalt Coupe have enough to woo even those Toyota Corolla owners looking for a Coupe? Or will the Corolla owner head over to Scion and the Civic owner upgrade to the new Civic because the GM still can't hold a candle to Japanese imports? The Cavalier was a horrid car. The Civics and Corollas it went up against were far above it in every catagory. But now that we have a whole new field of new cars (except the Corolla, but it is still a fresh car with the current design only a couple years old), can the Cobalt measure up.... what do you think?
  • the_big_althe_big_al Posts: 1,079
    That 03 depending on when it was manufactured might still be under 3/36 warranty?? 03-06 is 3 years, so depending on when it rolled off the assembly line would make or break the warranty. Or even if it is only a couple months out it only has 15K miles and maybe you can work a deal --- see if the dealer will cut a break. As bad a rap as the dealers get, you might be able to get them to work with you?
  • the_big_althe_big_al Posts: 1,079
    not sure about the stain preventativness of the seats, but the Cobalt I rented a couple weeks back had only 11K on the odo and was only a few months old (it was actually badged as an '07). Every single seat had stains on it. The front passenger looked the worst like a drink of some kind had been spilled. I don't know what the drink was (it could have been just water but who knows with rentals).

    Of course the experience could have been that it was a rental and so subject to much more abuse than a life as a regualr vehicle.
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    I've always owned S.U.V.'s or Vans in the past and next year I'm planning on trading my 05 Equinox for a Cobalt. But if I buy a Cobalt I'll be missing the storage space that I'm used to have. So, I was thinking of buying a utility trailer if I need to haul things like furniture, building materials, boxes or bringing things to the cottage. I see lots of Cobalt everyday on the roads and highways but never saw one towing a utility trailer.
    Is a Cobalt able to tow a trailer?
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Yes, I believe its 1,000 lbs but it could be slightly more.
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    I found this in the G.M.'s Cobalt's brochure...


    2.2L ECOTEC I-4 454 kg (1000 lb.) maximum gross trailer weight*
    2.4L ECOTEC I-4 454 kg (1000 lb.) maximum gross trailer weight*

    *When properly equipped. Includes weight of trailer, cargo, passengers and equipment.

    Now I'm a bit confused, all the utility trailers that I looked at are all over 1,250 lb. The lightness one that would be handy for me was a 1,250 lb 4 X 6½ foot trailer.

    So I presume that the Cobalt can't pull a utility trailer at all or there's something I don't understand here.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Even the smallest utility trailer is a few hundred pounds. I would call your dealers service department and talk with them.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I sent Chevrolet Customer Service an Email asking for the build date on my Cobalt. It took them several days, probably about two weeks, but they finally called me and told me the car was built on 11/12/07. I checked the calendar, and that was a Monday.

    Is it just a myth, or are there statistics to back up the assertion that cars built on Mondays have more workmanship related quality problems than those made on other days of the week?

  • okko1okko1 Posts: 327
    i heard it was friday ;)
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    There's a song that Johnny Cash sang many years ago and if I can recall the tittle is "One piece at a time" and in that song he says that the best cars are made on a wednesday because it's in the middle of the week.
    But it only song lyrics.
    Check on the net for the lyrics, kind of a funny song.
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    Sorry tsjay. The song I was talking about is "A wednersday car" and not "One piece at a time".

    Here are the lyrics... have fun.

    Lyrics A Wednesday Car

    The assembly line is runnin' slow on Monday
    They've been livin' it up and layin' up Saturday and Sunday
    On Tuesday they're about to come around
    But they still feel bad and they're kinda down
    And mad cause they've got four more day before the weekend rolls around

    On Wednesday they're feelin' fine again
    And they're workin' like a dog and diggin' in
    Tryin' to do everything they should puttin' 'em cars together good
    And I got me a car that was made on Wednesday on Wednesday
    If you're gonna boy yourself a new car
    You just better hope you're lucky enough to get one made on Wednesday

    On Thursday the weekend is in sight
    And they're in a hurry and they don't do nothing right
    Friday is the worst day of the week that's the day they make lemons dogs and freaks
    If your car was made on Friday friend you'll soon be in the creek

    Cause it's payday and the loafin' has begun
    Lord them Friday cars just hope you don't get one
    Monday Tuesday Thursday and Friday
    Are all bad days and the only try day is Wednesday
    And my car was made on Wednesday on Wednesday
    If your car wasn't made on Wednesday I'd advise you not to even leave home any
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  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    That was decades ago rumors with some facts to back it up such as drinking on the job and coming in hung over. With the way things are run today with quality control that doesn't come into play.
  • horsey55horsey55 Posts: 15
    My '08 Cobalt is a Monday car. I found it to have Zero defects, everything works and it is tight as a drum with no squeaks or rattles. This is my first small car in many years, and I am very happy with it. Fun to drive and a great value. :)
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    This post is not about the Cobalt. But since it's an automotive forum I've got a little question. I'm thinking of joining the A.A.A. (triple A).
    Is it good or I'll just be trowing my money out the window?
  • cmhj2000cmhj2000 Se, Pa.Posts: 372
    We've been AAA members for about 15 years. FWIW and IMO we're not "throwing" our money out the window.

    Recent case in point.

    One night my nephew was screwing around and locked my Jeep doors while the engine was running. No spare keys handy! Called AAA, they had a tow truck on the scene within 30 min. Got the doors open and off I went.

    That one service more than paid for the cost of our annual fee.

    I've also found in my work that most of my customers with AAA generally tend to get better and faster service than if they called some random name in the phone book.

    Now, with our new vehicles I have an arguement with the wife on this. Since we have road side service as part of the warranty protection I've wanted to drop AAA but she won't due to past experiences.
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    Thanks for the reply. That's why I was wondering if I should join AAA because my vehicule just got off the G.M. roadside assistance plan and I want to still have some kind of protection. Thanks again.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    My insurance (State Farm) offers towing coverage for next to nothing, maybe a couple dollars per six month premium. I suppose most insurance companies have similar deals.

    Also, my insurance covers locksmith charges, and I don't believe I have to pay anything extra for that feature.

  • dispencer2dispencer2 Posts: 299
    Does anyone know the differences between the 2008 and 2009 Cobalt LT. They seem to be identical but there must be some difference in features, options, etc.
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    Found this... might help a bit. Looking for more.

    New for 2009
    The Chevrolet Cobalt gets variable valve timing on its 2.2-liter engine in an effort to improve mileage. GM's OnStar communication system becomes standard on all models, and the high-performance SS model is available as a sedan.

    All Cobalt body styles feature a horizontally split grille with a gold bowtie badge. Built on a 103.3-inch wheelbase, the Cobalt measures a bit more than 180 inches long overall, making it longer than any of its competitors. At 67.9 inches wide, it's narrower than the Civic and Corolla but wider than the Focus by more than an inch. At 57.1 inches, the Cobalt is about half an inch taller than the Civic but still shorter than the Focus and Corolla.
    New wheel options in 15-, 16-, 17- and 18-inch sizes depending on model
    High-performance SS model available in coupe or sedan
    Sport model dropped
    Available Sport appearance package with spoiler, body molding, 17-inch wheels and other items
    Different rear-end designs for sedans and coupes
    With front bucket seats and a 60/40-split folding rear seat, all Cobalts seat five occupants, and the trunk can be accessed from inside the car. On models with an automatic transmission, an optional remote start system allows drivers to start the engine with a key fob. Seats with heated, leather surfaces are optional on LT models, and SS models have unique interior trim bits. Bluetooth connectivity is available. Standard equipment includes:
    CD player with auxiliary input jack
    Air conditioning
    XM Satellite Radio on all models
    Driver information center
    Under the Hood
    LS and LT models use a 2.2-liter four-cylinder engine with new variable valve timing. GM says the engine will be more powerful and fuel-efficient, but it has not been tested for fuel economy. The SS model uses a turbocharged and intercooled 2.0-liter four-cylinder, which uses direct injection. The LS and LT are available with a five-speed manual or a four-speed automatic transmission, whereas the SS is only available with the manual.
    155-horsepower, Ecotec 2.2-liter (150 pounds-feet of torque)
    260-hp, turbo 2.0-liter (260 pounds-feet of torque)
    New final drive axle ratio improves fuel economy
    Four-wheel disc brakes on SS models
    Standard electronic stability control on SS models
    Antilock brakes are standard on 2LT and SS models and optional on LS models. Cobalts with the automatic gearbox and antilock brakes also have traction control.
    Free one-year subscription to OnStar, which alerts authorities in the event of a collision and provides crash data
    Side curtain airbags are standard on all models, but side-impact airbags for the front seats are not available
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    Very helpful post. Thanks. This is awesome:

    155-horsepower, Ecotec 2.2-liter (150 pounds-feet of torque)

    That's SVT/performance car territory.
  • dispencer2dispencer2 Posts: 299
    Motor Trend has a list of 2009 cars with descriptions and makes the comment that the next Cobalt will be far better. What are they talking about? Is there supposed to be a completely new and different Cobalt in 2010?
  • dispencer2dispencer2 Posts: 299
    Thanks for all the information. I'll order one in January unless I hear that the 2010 will be completely different. If so I'll wait and get an old Cavalier in the meantime. Won't lose anything on it in a year with the increase in gas prices.
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    My wife has a 2005 Cobalt (new). Now I wonder when would be the best time for her to trade it in so it would be to her advantage? Some say for the first 3 years you shouldn't trade a car, you loose to much. Is it better at 3 yrs, 4... 5 or more?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    The best time to trade it would be in about 10 to 12 years. :)

    Hey, I'm a reformed "car trading junkie." I would LOVE to have the money in the bank right now that I have spent on trading cars over the last 35 years! I used to trade cars more often than most people change underwear. Car dealerships have named cubicles after me, and car salesmen have named children after me. There have been injuries as all the salesmen at the dealerships have tried to get out the door at the same time to greet me when I pulled up on the lot.

    OK, there might be a LITTLE exaggeration there, but I really did make many, many unnecessary trades over the years. I was an "informed" buyer and got really good deals, but when you get right down to it, there is "no such thing as a good deal on something that you don't need."

    If you consider the depreciation costs, trading every two or three years just does NOT make sense.

    Cars are so dependable these days that you can easily get 200,000 miles out of them without spending a lot for repairs. Just keep the oil changed at reasonable intervals, and these modern cars will hang with you for many years.

    Hey, Grosloup, it's all about what it's worth to you. If you are aware of the costs involved and still want a new car, then good luck in finding just the right car at a great price.

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