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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+



  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    Technically, you could hook up two subs -- the harnesses would probably be able to daisy chain quite easily. The only thing that would worry me is power -- they draw power from the radio circuit. I would probably run a separate power lead for two subs.

    You can hook up two underseat subwoofers. Did that :)
    Just plug and play, but you got to contort the mounting bracket to fit under the driver's seat.

    Result: Didn't sound worst. Actually better.

    Note: Get deep cycle battery, which I will be soon, unless you don't mind the dash doing the disco :shades:


    p/s: Oh, the sub draws juice direct from the battery.
  • subiewtbsubiewtb Posts: 9
    You put both subwoofers under the driver seat? I was thinking putting one in each seat! Did you run a separate circuit from the fuse box to the second sub?
    Lee :P

    P.S. Where did you order the Klasse products online?
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Dave, which Subaru are you referring to?? On the subs I have installed, the sub harness tees into the radio harness, and draws power from that feed (I believe it uses the constant +12V lead used to power the radio memory). Both of the power lines in the radio harness (one constant, one switched) use fairly thin wire and route through the fuse box. That would be my concern with two subs -- they probably demand heavier gage wire and a separate fuse/circuit....

  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    We have the same ;)

    From looking at the harness, line in [orignal harness to the radio] from the battery is routed direct to the subwoofer when T'd to the sub's harness, which carries it's own fuse, IIRC by-passing the radio.

  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    No, one underseat subwoofer for each seat [driver/passenger] :D

  • drew10drew10 Posts: 25
    Does anyone know if there are any significant changes in the new '06 Outbacks versus the '05 models?
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    also, see future models thread in this site.
  • ssmintonssminton Posts: 155
    Thanks for the post on the window replacement. I too have the same "blemish" on my rear hatch glass. I have chosen to not do anything about it. I have an extended warranty so I figure that I have to 100K to get it replaced. For now... I think that I will just sit tight.
  • linda12linda12 Posts: 3
    My 2001 Subaru Outback has been having a problem with the climate control system. Every once in awhile (seemingly randomly), the a/c will stop blowing cold air and will only blow hot, and once this starts, the a/c will not kick in again.

    Usually after a few hours of being out of the heat (like in a garage), the a/c will start working again, but since we have been having a heat wave this summer, it's been happening a lot. We've had the car into the dealer for service, but they can't recreate the problem, so they're unable to help. Is anyone else having this problem, or know of any possible causes? Thanks!
  • joeb24joeb24 Posts: 111
    I had a similar problem with my 2001 Outback LL Bean. The AC would blow cold air when I first turned it on, but then, after anywhere from 5 to 25 minutes, would blow hot air. The compressor would stop cycling on and off. I brought it to one dealer and one independent mechanic, and they could not solve the problem. The car was out of warranty, and I did not want to keep spending money and time on mechanics shooting in the dark. I ended up trading in the car.
  • adrifteradrifter Posts: 3
    This interests me. Maybe this is why I am having problems? I just got a 2005 Subaru Limited (6-CD changer NOT in the trunk is what sold me)...My old vehicle was the 2002 Subaru Outback Sedan with the McIntosh Sound system. Absolutely amazing...but I decided to crash it on the highway. Now I have a new car which is much better to me in everyway except the Audio TO GET TO THE POINT....I need a new system. I am not worried about is my dilemma. I want to put a deck Audio Reciever thingy that can play CD's MP3's and has a nice equilizer. A LOT of my friends have but such things in there vehicles with new systems and what not....but they have all had older it was easy for them to do. My new car has a crazy center inlay. I went to a sight that sold a lot of Recievers for cars, and all the ones I was looking at fit my car...or so the sight said....but how would I get one that would fit without disrupting all the AC features? I looked at decks at both Circuit City and Best Buy...but when I asked if they could get on into my car they were clueless. Both places said they hadn't done a 2005 Subaru Legacy yet and didn't know the set up....if any of you have replaced the audio system unit please give me some advice...I want a good system, but don't want to spend an arm and a leg to get a "custom" job done. thanks. Rock On.
  • ttenragttenrag Posts: 38
    I have a 2.5i base model 2005 outback. i am getting aftermarket leather put in and would like to upgrade to the leather/wood steering wheel with radio this possible?
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Not even possible with the base radio.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    On Ltd models, the stereo and climate control are integrated -- they share common circuit boards and wiring harnesses. If you are set on adding an aftermarket radio, it would have to be located somewhere else in the car (glovebox, etc...) since the factory radio can't be divorced from climate control. You can basically intercept the speaker wiring and route it to your aftermarket radio, while leaving the factory system in the dash as a dummy.

    If it were me, I would add better speakers, amps, and drive them off the factory radio via a line-out converter.

  • subiewtbsubiewtb Posts: 9
    I installed the subwoofer over the weekend and I didn't see any low level output. Are you referring to using a converter to change the speakers output to a low level input of the amplifier?
    Is there a point in the radio where you can tap into to get low level output? :confuse:

  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    The volume and low cut control is on the side of the subwoofer.

  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Yes, I was talking about a line-out converter that drops speaker-level down to line-level. Some amps can take speaker level directly. JL audio even makes a device (Clean Sweep) that will correct the factory radio's default EQ curve. It's pricey, but that would be the ultimate way to go.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Consider Wheelskins for the steering wheel, they're not too hard to install and look great.

    I put some on my Escort in 1991, and liked it so much I actually removed it and reinstalled it on my Forester in 1998. They're still on there - 14 years and counting.

  • timo1745timo1745 Posts: 58
    I went through this on my '91 535 last summer...same symptoms/scenerio. Based upon my findings, my guess is your issue has something to do either with your A/C system's ability to maintain proper system pressure and/or keep itself within operating temperature (the prior is also dependent on the latter). Your A/C system's ability to cool your car is dependent on many things; the easiest to verify should be checked first. 1) the right amount of freon (e.g., system pressure on both the "high" and "low" sides of the system) and 2) that your auxilliary fan is switching 'on' when it should.

    Even if you have the correct system pressure, if your car's aux fan isn't working, your A/C system will work pretty well even with just the air from your vehicle moving. At the point where it becomes too hot, it causes the pressure on the "high" (e.g., compressed) side of the A/C system to become too great, and should trip the pressure switch/compressor, causing the compressor to no longer run. Once the car is allowed to sit for a while, the system would cool, and pressures return to normal, allowing the A/C to run again for a while, and the process would repeat. As I see it, this is the symptom you mentioned which hit me e.g., "the A/C works fine until it gets warm". In my case, this scenerio was being caused by both my aux fan switch, and my high-side pressure switch being bad.

    You can verify yourself whether or not your aux fan is coming on "high" after you've had the A/C running on Max A/C for a min or two. If it's not, it could just be a fuse in your fusebox, or the aux fan switch or the fan itself could be bad. If the aux fan is working, have a qualified A/C shop test your system pressure on both high and low sides. This would verify whether you have sufficient freon in the system--in the event there is too great of a pressure differential between the two sides (each car has it's own ideal values), your expansion valve might be slightly blocked. Finally, I would have them test your pressure switch on your A/C system's "high" side to see if it's doing its job properly. This was a $45 part on my BMW.

    Sorry for the long post, but I always feel better about those awful drives to work in Aug w/ a partially working A/C system if what I learned can benefit someone else :)

    Tim G
    '05 OBXT-L 5MT
    17.8k on the clock
  • jaguar62jaguar62 Posts: 2
    This is a question for anyone that has actually opened up an '05 dash to get a good look at the stereo/AC system.

    Do you think it would be easy to put in an antenna splitter at the back of the radio?
    This could serve as an "Aux" input for an MP3 player with RF adaptor.

    On my '96 outback, the RF adaptor works well even in the city IF I put the antenna down. Since the newer cars only have a retractable antenna, I think it will be necesary to inject the signal directly.
  • adrifteradrifter Posts: 3
    Thank you very much for your help c.hunter. I really appreciate someone giving me a good answer rather than a dead end "I don't know," but here's a question, although it may be a stupid one....What it you took apart the center console, Disconnected the audio wiring from it, but kept the circuit board in. Basically it would work for the AC but not be used for the audio end. You then shove the circuit board out of the way, throw in a deck, and connect the wiring to it. I know nothing about car circuitry so excuse me if this is far fetch. Of course the problem I see with my idea is that I don't know of any mounting brackets or face plates that would work. The reason I think there is a way of doing something with the center console is that on a website I surfed the the other day, I found a couple people who were showing off their customized Legacys. One had all new speakers, another was all customized lighting, but one had a unique center console. It didn't have any of the audio parts, but had the two dual climate control the place of the audio section was a screen...a "ghost face" if you will. The person also had a Sirius radio unit in the glove compartment. I don't know, I always go by the rule When theres a will theres a way.....but I have a feeling the way I want leads to a big expense.
  • linda12linda12 Posts: 3
    Interesting - this is a 2001 LL Bean as well. We have already spent quite a bit of money trying to diagnose - but they haven't been able to find anything, and seemed as if this was the first time they had ever encountered this type of AC issue. Other than this, we love the car, so I'd hate to trade it in - but it may be the only option. Just wondering - did you get another Subaru?
  • linda12linda12 Posts: 3
    Tim - thanks very much for the info. It's a lot more than I've been able to find on my own, and since the service center seems stymied, it gives me some hope for a quick solution. :D
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    I have done exactly that on my 05 Outback XT. The antenna connector is non-standard, however. I made up an adapter, but I understand that Metra is now selling one. This would allow you to hook up an FM modulator, which can switch between the antenna (for FM) and the modulator (for aux-in). It works very well, but of course the sound quality is not perfect -- like strong FM.

  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    It may be possible, but we'd be talking about some very advanced surgery. The circuit board for the climate control is literally routed through the radio, and the radio and climate control buttons/panels are intermingled. The radio/climate stack (basically the entire front console) could be kept together and moved elsewhere, but then you'd be dealing with the hassle of having the climate controls somewhere else, and they are as important as the stereo if you ask me. The stock stereo is not great, but it's not bad either. I'd invest time/money improving that before re-doing the whole console.

  • adrifteradrifter Posts: 3
    Well I must say, you do know what you are talking about. You sold me. I was going to go look at decks tonight, but I think I will go look at speakers instead. I wasn't planning on doing any "major" work on the audio system until late winter/early spring. Have car payments to handle first. But I did want to get an idea of what I needed to do. and you definitely helped. Thanks again.
  • bcurriebcurrie Posts: 6
    I am thinking of buying my 3rd Outback. After having a 96 and now an 01, both with manual trannys, I am wondering if the dreaded clutch shudder has appeared yet on base 05's or XT's. It's enough to make me think automatic or even another brand.

    Thanks in advance.

  • sdufordsduford Posts: 577
    Nope, but we do suffer from the stinky clutch syndrome...
  • willocwilloc Posts: 19
    I had problems with the A/C on my 2003 VDC wagon for a long time. Rather than retype what I found to be the problem, take a look at my blog and let me know if it helps you out. One thing I neglected to mention is that you can test the aspirator tube with a small piece of thread...hold it up to that little inlet vent on the climate control panel and see if it is sucked toward the unit. You'll see what I mean after reading:
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