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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+



  • beverenbeveren Posts: 3
    c hunter, Thanks. I am talking about an aux-in to the radio. I believe that this is what I was looking for. I have a transmitter broadcasting the iPod signal to my FM radio and it isn't satisfactory. I am unsure of how I read the selection being played. Do I still need to read the iPod, or is it displayed on the radio screen?
  • chetlaninchetlanin Posts: 1
    I have an 06 Outback 2.5 Limited. Right around 8k miles i started to encounter a whistling noise coming from the front axle which disappersa on high speeds and when car comes to a stop it turns into a moaning and groaning low pitch noise. It sounds a lot like a subway train when it comes to a stop. It does not happen all the time. The only possible condition I was able to track - a lot of stop and go traffic. I had a technician look at the breaks - nothing. It does not seem to affect performance (breaking or otherwise) at all Any ideas??
  • subarufaqsubarufaq Posts: 3
    I had almost the same problem a few days ago. The axle got louder at around 25-35 mph. The following post really helped me out. I kept backing up in a very quiet neighborhood until I heard something getting out. I sometimes drove on roads where construction was going on. Maybe my Outback picked up some stone or wood debris there.
    kmclean, "Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+" #9576, 30 Nov 2006 12:25 pm

    Fourth vote for a pebble. Had that happen to me last summer - sure got my attention. Stopped the car (no effect on braking noted), backed up about 20-30 yards or so, that solved the problem. I assume the reverse motion helped back out the pebble the way it came in.
  • subarufaqsubarufaq Posts: 3
    Thanks, kmclean! You saved me a trip to a service shop.
  • gmwaltersgmwalters Posts: 20
    I just test drove a 2007 CR-V and a 2007 2.5i over the exact same circuit. 2.5i drove and handled very well, but the air conditioning never seemed to get the car cool ( the air coming out seemed cool). What's the consensus on the air conditioning performance of the 2.5i outback...anyone find it somewhat weak?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,908
    The last time we had this discussion, I had yet to use the A/C on my 2007 Outback, but never had any problems with it in my '96 Outback - even in 100+ Eastern Oregon heat.

    The last week here in Fairbanks was 80+ degrees most days, so I gave it a work out. I agree - I think it is weak. It works fine for 85 degrees, but it keeps the car at *just* comfortable going full fan and on recirculate.

    The problem is that it does not run on full cold continuously. It will get extremely cold for about 5 seconds, then it is cool for another 5-10, then extremely cold again. If it stuck to extremely cold, it would be excellent and I would actually need to turn the fan speed down to keep the car at a comfortable temperature.

    Now, were I to take it to Eastern Oregon again in August with 100+ degree days, I think it would fail miserably. Or maybe it would just fail and I would be the miserable one!

    There was a fella here a couple weeks back complaining about the A/C on his car in Georgia. I can certainly see his point now.

    It may be more effective in the sedans (which have less air space and fewer windows). It is not bad, but it is not great either.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • plim77plim77 Posts: 46
    I owned a 2005 Honda CR-V which I traded in for a 2005 Subaru Outback LLBean 3.0. My wife drives a 2006 Legacy 2.5i.

    I agree that the CR-V's air conditioner was much cooler and was able to get the car really cold, really fast. However, I've had no problems with either Subaru's air conditioner (The 2.5i has the standard AC, the 3.0 has the temperature control). It's not as strong, but still effective.

    Overall it's a relatively minor thing. The Subaru is a much better car- I've owned 3 Honda Accords before the CR-V. I'll probably stick with Subaru for a very long time.
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    Another thought... CRV comes with tint from the factory, correct? Did the Outback have aftermarket window tint, or no tint? Outback has pretty substantial glass area, so this can make a huge difference.

    We've tinted our Outback and Legacy (just a medium tint, nothing really dark), and have absolutely no problems with the car cooling. $250 should do it. Don't go with cheap tint or a cheap shop... with tinting, you generally get what you pay for.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,908
    I was thinking the same thing and, if I were to keep the car, I would tint the windows. Not only would it be a nice solar reduction for children in the rear seats, but would probably look very good on a silver car. ;)
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • plim77plim77 Posts: 46
    I agree completely. The CR-V does have factory tinted windows in the rear seat and cargo area (the front windows were not).

    I've been planning on getting the Outback's windows tinted- the Subarus on TV commercials and catalogues look cool with them tinted, not to mention what you said about helping to keep the car cool.

    I still have to work on my wife. I think she doesn't want the tint because then she can't wave at her friends when she drives!
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,908
    Easy fix, there! Just tint the 5 windows in the rear and call it a day. No visibility issues and the cool factor is still in effect. ;)
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The dual sunroof lets in even more heat, but at least there's a sunshade for that.
  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    If you do the tinting make sure to do the sunroofs as well. I think a decent tint job makes the car look really nice, besides cooling it down. Here's my 06 OB with the 35% tint done all around.

    See more Car Pictures at

    The 20% would look nicer, but I felt it would be too dark.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Gotta say that looks pretty SCHWEET!
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    Looks sharp, Mark! Black-on-black's very sporty! Sure not what I picture when I think of a Beaner (2-tone, earthy colors). ;)

    We have 35% on ours, too, same reasoning... plus 35%'s the legal limit here. We had ours done in a subtle bronze color (can look pinkish if it's 20%, though), which I think works well with the ivory interior and allows warmer-toned light into the cabin, which I like in my often gray corner of the world.
  • gmwaltersgmwalters Posts: 20
    It seemed to me that it was a matter of air volume being circulated rather than the temp of the air coming out of the ducts. The blower was set as high as it would go (4); if i did that in my Accord or my Explorer, I would freeze. Just returned from a trip in the Explorer where is was 91 degrees and the air conditioner actually made the interior COLD when set about midway speed. The Explorer does have factory tinted glass, but both the Accord and Explorer seem to move quite a bit more air.
  • oldadcoldadc Posts: 1
    Can anyone tell me the filter location on the 2003
    3.0 L outback ?

  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Look in the owners manual for details (or even better, the instructions that come with the replacement filter). Basically, it's behind/under the glovebox.
  • luck11luck11 Posts: 425
    Funny, I find the AC on my 05 OB XTL just fine, in fact, think its overkill. We were driving in 95 degree weather (felt like 104 when they factor in humidity) up here in the Great White North (Eastern Ontario) and we had plenty of AC. Mind you, I too have my car tinted with 35% all around, including the roof.

    What ticks me off with this system is that I had to crank the climate control to 25.5 celcius (80 degrees F) just to get the AC to run so that wasn't freezing my arms off. Geez...I get enough cold during our winters!!!

    Other thing that irks me, and not sure if it is still a problem on current Soobs, but if I want fresh air (no AC) coming in thru the vents and set the climate to lowest setting (ie 18 degrees C), the system blows out HOT air! This is especially true if the car is motionless while the engine is running a while. Frustrating.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    That is pretty much across the board though, anytime you have fresh air coming in and it's warm ambient temps you will have engine heat getting sucked in. I have the same issue on my Armada, my 240sx, my first gen legacy, my SVX, etc.

  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    You can find some detailed instructions & diagrams for air filter replacement for your model here:
  • brodtiebrodtie Posts: 2
    Can anyone guide me in the right direction to get sattelite radio and MP3 in my legacy. I've talked to people who say i have to put a new deck in and run the sattelite and MP3 player off the new deck. Is there anyway that i can keep the factory stereo and hardwire either the MP3 or sattelite radio, or both?

    Also is there a instal kit for a new deck. I've had people tell me that there isn't and they have to fabricate one. :confuse:
  • willocwilloc Posts: 19
    brodtie, get thyself to stat!

    It takes a little work, but you can do the install in about an hour. Perfect connection with no loss in sound quality. I use it with my iPod and Sirius deck. Get the ground loop interruptor if you plan on using it with sat - not really necessary with the iPod unless you use the car charger (it can introduce some alternator whine).
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    You cannot replace the stock stereo on the 05+ Legacies if you have the automatic climate control. Best you can do for an upgraded stereo would be to add a stereo in the pocket spot and re-wire everything to that.

    I would suggest doing the jazzyengineering thing on the OEM stereo. That's what I plan to do on my 05 LGT.

  • mrcaloxmrcalox Posts: 1
    Hi mike,

    I need some help. I'm planning to buy a legacy 2008 and I wanted to know if I will be able to have an amplifier in the car without changing the stereo.


  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'm pretty sure you can put an inline amp in, although, you'll probably want to upgrade the speakers to handle the higher amps.

  • pathtomaxpathtomax Posts: 215
    I keep changing my mind between the 08 LL Bean R and the XT Limited. My partner just bought a new RX350 with Navigation so I really don't need that as an option. Plus, I REALLY miss driving a 5-speed.

    So, that points me toward the XT Limited with 5speed. Some questions:

    - Does the 5speed receive the SI Drive with it? I can't see that it would be necessary but I see it listed as standard.
    - Does this have VDC? Again, I have seen it listed here on Edmunds as Std, but on other sites Std only on the Auto.
    - Anyone out there have one? Even here in NH, they are hard to find on the lots! I wonder if I will ever be able to test drive one before ordering it. The local dealership in Exeter, NH has an Auto XT.

  • scottinkyscottinky Posts: 194
    does the 08 OB have rear ac vents?
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    Yes, SI-Drive and VDC are standard on the manual XT limited. (Hee hee... careful calling it a 5-speed, since the automatic has 5 speeds as well!)

    My dealer here in Seattle has 8 XT Ltds in stock w/manual tranny, by the way. You can use to search inventory (by state, I believe).

    The 6-cyl has smooth, continuous power delivery, the turbo has more peaky power and delivers more gut-wrenching "oomph". Fun or smooth, they're both good engines. :) Sounds like you've got smooth covered with the Lexus, so the XT Ltd might be fun for you!

    You may be able to find a Forester XT Sports with a manual tranny to test-drive. It'd give you a good idea of what the Outback would feel like, performance wise, though the Outback would be a touch slower (it's heavier) and ride smoother than the Forester.

    SI-Drive's "intelligent" mode is good for driving in slick conditions & for improving fuel economy when you're just toolin' around town. Pulled this from Green Car Congress website:
    "The SI-Drive controls the electronic throttle system’s response and fuel and ignition curves to modify engine torque characteristics, changing the performance character of the car in each mode.
    With “Intelligent” mode selected, the system reduces engine torque and maximum power and switches to a more relaxed throttle response curve. Intelligent mode is an ideal choice for smoother response while commuting in traffic, for example, where it can also help boost fuel efficiency by up to 10%, according to Subaru.
    Intelligent mode’s more relaxed responses and lower torque output complement the low-traction surface driving safety provided by the Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive System.
    When “Intelligent” mode is selected in vehicles with a manual transmission, a shift-up indicator blinks to signal the optimal shift point for maximum fuel efficiency.
    In “Sport” mode, the performance of the 2.5 GT spec.B (and other 2007 turbo Legacy and Outback models) is similar to the 2006 model, with quick throttle responses and powerful, linear acceleration. The linear acceleration characteristic of this versatile mode makes it ideal for driving on freeways and suburban streets or for climbing mountain roads.
    In “Sport Sharp” mode, SI-Drive modifies the engine’s electronic throttle mapping to deliver lightning quick throttle response and more power sooner."

    On the automatic models, SI-Drive also changes the transmission's shift pattern.
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    Rear vents in the Outback are under the front seats. I think air flows to the back pretty well anyway, if you adjust the front dash vents appropriately. Only Subaru model that has ceiling vents is the Tribeca (which actually has rear controls & another AC condenser in the 7-pass model).
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