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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+



  • Hello, the driver's side heated seat in my 05 Outback Turbo is burning my buns even at the lowest setting. More accurately, the temperature fluctuates between "is it on?" and "OUCH!" Anyone else had this problem? Is it a costly fix?
  • That tire looks to be the WRG2. Perhaps that website mislabeled it?

    I've got the normal WR's for winter and they're great. I'm on the West side of the Cascades as well, just a bit further North (Seattle).

    Those G2's look to be a great choice. Yes, Nokian's are very expensive but supposedly last a long time and are the only real snow worthy choice of of "all-season" tires I could find.

  • Do you have a sensitive backside? :surprise: ;)

    Sounds like you should get it checked. It shouldn't be that hot in the lowest setting. It does fluctuate the temperature though. That's just how it works.

    There have been malfunctions of these units though that can lead to fires (in other brands, not sure about Subaru). Best to get it checked.

  • rob_mrob_m Somewhere North of BostonPosts: 813
    I believe there is a TSB for the seat heaters on the Legacy - check with the dealer. Mine cycles between wicked hot and cool on the lowest setting. Rob M
  • Thanks- what is a TSB?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,868
    Technical Service Bulletin
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • luck11luck11 Posts: 425
    Noticed this evening that my handbrake indicator light (ie. the exclamation point in brakets in the instrument cluster) remained on after I released my hand brake on my 05 OB XTL. Any ideas on cause? Something I need to take to shop asap?

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    This means that your brake fluid resivoir is low. Usually indicates that your pads are low. How many miles on your car or on that set of pads?

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  • maxxmdmaxxmd Posts: 18
    I am considering buying a 2009 Outback Special Edition. I owned a 1998 Outback and got 196K trouble free miles out of it.

    I traded it in for a Malibu Maxx as I had a huge GM card rebate. It's time for another new car.

    Are there any issues to be aware of in the 2009 models? Are there any build dates to avoid? I know all the information is here in the discussion group (HG, trans, etc) but with over 25,000 posts I don't have time to read everything with the holidays approaching. I am looking for the Cliff Notes version.

    Thanks in advance for your help.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,868
    I have not seen any significant issues arise yet for the 2009 Outback. It is the fifth and final year of the current model generation, so I expect that most if not all kinks are worked out for this model year. It is the 2010 vehicles that may re-introduce new hiccups....

    I was able to use half of my GM points to help my brother get a decent discount on the Cobalt he purchased early last year. That was a nice feeling, and I did not even have to settle for a GM to use the rebate! :D
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Kurt also came from a Malibu Maxx, in his case to a new Forester XT.

    The kinks have been worked out so the Outback is a pretty safe choice, IMHO. We haven't seen many HG failures since MY03 or so, and that's 5+ years.
  • I just picked up an 09 Legacy SE and I've got two questions.

    1) I'm looking to replace the boring rubber shift knob with something nicer. Does anyone have any suggestions? I like the Momo one offered by Subaru accessories but it's kinda pricey. Also, can I perform the switch myself, and if I don't buy a Subaru-approved unit, can I be sure that it will fit my shifter?

    2) Center arm rest extension - does anyone actually buy this? If so, is it worth it? I think it'd be nice. Can I perform the install myself?

  • plim77plim77 Posts: 46
    I have an LLBean Outback and my wife has a Legacy. Don't waste your time/money on the arm rest extension. We have it in my wife's car and it just gets in the way. It sometimes pops up when you don't need it. You can rest your arm without it- as I do in my wagon.

    Get the Momo shift nob, but not from the dealer. Get it off of eBay or somewhere else you can get it cheaper- then you're guaranteed a good fit.
  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    And I'm the other way from plim77 - I like the arm rest extension (I have the LL Bean also). I've read either here or one of the subaru specific sites how to do the install yourself. As for the shifter knob, I never did it but ebay sounds like a good alternative.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,868
    I cannot say for sure on the Legacy, but they typically screw on to the shift rod and are quite standardized. Replacing one should take a matter of minutes. The only fit issue that seems quite possible is if the boot attaches to the knob. In that case, if the replacement knob did not have a similar attachment point, the boot would be troublesome thereafter....
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • 64221306422130 Posts: 44
    I have a 2009 Subaru Legacy SE (base) and I have on a few occasions experienced the car's rear end sliding out of control in a tight medium speed turn(on ramp). I asked Subaru about this and they said they would note the issue. I feel the car is very unsafe. Any suggstions?
  • There are a bunch of aftermarket places that offer shift knobs, but the cheaper ones that I've seen look cheaper. If you google "Legacy" and "shift knob", you can find the suppliers. Also, you can check the archives or put up a query at The guys there are always talking about aftermarket suppliers.

    Removing the knob is basically a twist-off deal where you're breaking some kind of adhesive bond. Some of the aftermarket suppliers post the installation instructions when they list the Momo know. You can also probably find instructions at the above mentioned forum. Because it's basically a twist-off, a lot of aftermarket knobs should fit.

    I'm the opposite of Wallie. My wife drives the LLBean Outback and I drive the Legacy. We both have the extended armrest. My wife doesn't use hers. I couldn't do without it.
  • I just drove an '09 Outback SE loaner with 1,600 miles. Nice car. My wife has an '08 LLBean and they handle essentially the same. The Harmon Kardon sound system is definitely better than the '08 version and it's great that they added power and heated seats. Two drawbacks in the SE, IMHO: manual climate controls, which are a pain to operate, and lack of a sunroof.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 2,569
    I have an '09 Legacy SE and I love it. The SE package on the Legacy does come with a sunroof. I agree about the manual climate control though...I was driving an '01 Taurus SEL that had Auto Climate Control, and it was nice to set it and forget it.

    However the Legacy just drives so much nicer than the taurus that the climate control thing is a worthy sacrifice.

    Outta curiosity, does your LLBean have the 6-cylinder or the 2.5 4-cylinder?
    2016 Volkswagen GTI S, 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i
  • Hey everyone, I am now an owner of an 05 subaru legacy i just bought it last week! Its an auto matic and not the gt model, since i am new to the subaru legacy can anyone tell me how to get this thing louder with out changing out the exhaust? Any trickd you guys may know? Any thought about tinting the windows?
  • plim77plim77 Posts: 46
    Don't make it'll just annoy the hell out of the people around you and give Subaru a bad name. Besides, I don't think there is a way to do it without fooling with the exhaust. I don't recommend messing with the exhaust either.
  • hey thanks for the info any thoughts on tinting?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,868
    Well, sounds to me like you are simply pushing the car beyond its traction limits in these situations. The stock tires, Bridgestone RE-92A, are not particularly adept at managing traction anyway, so best to not push it unless you replace the tires with better rubber.

    Are you accustomed to driving FWD vehicles? If so, take some time to learn how to drive the Subaru AWD and control the rear end, and you will come to appreciate the responsiveness and ability to control the car. It is truly a joy. ;)
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,868
    If I still had my Outback, I would put a 40% on the rear passenger windows and perhaps darker in the cargo area. The #1 complaint I get from my children while driving is sun in their eyes.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • Ok great! i'll check on the tinting laws here right now i want it to look good but i also want it be dark enough to be safe aswell. I really love this car i just bought it last week and still looking for ideas and suggestions on what i could do to this 2005 legacy 2.5i automatic. Its white so i think the tinting will look real good.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,868
    White - yeah, those look really good with tint (paisan has a white '05 GT wagon with dark tint), but you probably ought to go for consistent tinting on those windows behind the first row, as the difference in tint will be much more apparent on a white car. I would not go any darker than 40% on my rear passenger windows simply so that the children could easily see out them, yet they would still cut down the "light in the eyes" issue.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • Anyone have good ideas about aftermarket ski roof racks? My Legacy doesn't have any sort of rack right now, so I feel like a temporary (aka removable) one, if available, might be cheapest and most flexible (I could transfer it between cars). I found one that seems to hook in at the door openings, but I think that it won't work with the Legacy's frameless windows. Has anyone heard of that kind/tried it? Any insight would be appreciated.
  • morin2morin2 Posts: 399
    The two big players in the roofrack business are Thule and Yakima. Both are very nice & work with frameless windows - but careful about how you close your doors. If you prefer round bars, its Yakima, rectangular bars are Thule. Then the specific attachment for bikes, boats, skis, etc., attach to the bars. Its not cheap - but what is? My son's many Thule racks and attachments to carry 3 bikes on his 94 Legacy are probably worth as much as the car itself. I've got Yakima, so we have both.

    You are right - without gutters, the racks use clips that will just touch the frameless windows. We're just careful. The manufacturer sites list the applications and part numbers for your specific year & model.
  • Just bought a 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited 5 speed manual with 55K miles for 12K. I feel I stole it. :) Its in great shape , all records, new clutch, new brakes, new yokohomo avid tires. My only complaint is that it has no floor mats. To my shock, no dealer in my area seems to have the light beige/ivory interior floor mats for this car and say that only the black carpeted mats are for sale. Can this be right?? Please help. Looking for OEM floor mats here, not aftermarket that don't fit specifically this model. Looking on internet, not coming up with anything. :cry:
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