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Lexus GS 300/GS 430



  • My guess is the T-T-T is "tax, title, and tags" which is how people in my house refer to all those things you pay for after you finalize a price. i've always thought the tags referred to licencse plates from the dmv, but i could be wrong.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Oh, you are right of course!! :blush:
  • florida1florida1 Posts: 42
    what's your email?
  • florida1florida1 Posts: 42
    The "legendary" Florida1 is back!

    Since I've leased my 430 I'm not on this site as much---decided to jump on and see what all you've been talking about---Only to find out that my old posts are alive and kicking if not being challenged---seems there is a level of cynisism (sp?) in regards to my posted lease details:

    I reviewed my lease terms and here they are:
    2006 GS 430
    No Nav or ML
    39mos (I was wrong in original post, it's 3mos longer than I thought)
    $695 per month (tax not included in this price) Comes to roughly $760ish---
    $965.00 check then was out the door (first payment, fee's) (no security, no cap buy-down etc)
    36,000 total miles (roughly 11,400 per year avg)

    I leased from JM Lexus (they had 14 430's in stock when I bought) and had an exceptional customer experience--very easy------per the dealerships recommendation I did not lease through Lexus FI because they had poor residuals %'s on the new GS (maybe it's changed don't know)-----went through US Bank with a residual of I think close to 60%---

    Summary-absolutley love the car and have had zero buyers remorse---think not getting the Nav and ML was a great decision, sound system is awesome, have driven for 35yrs and not had Nav (been lost 3 times in 35yrs)----Best of all, Bluetooth (the real practical and useful new technology is included with all new GS's) this is great, the one feature I really wanted-----Good luck to all----the car is great
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Hello! Just click on hpowders in blue above this message and you will get my profile which has my email address.
    Please include the MSRP, your capitalized cost, money factor(if you know it), residual(if you know it) and the salesman's name if you remember it when you e-mail me.
    If you have trouble clicking on my profile for some reason, let me know and I will post my e-mail on this thread.
    Thank you!
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    You have achieved legendary status because nobody on this thread has come close to the deal you made. When I called JM Lexus, they wouldn't reveal to me that this deal was available. I was ready, willing and able. Sounded like they were doing quite fine without my help. Thought they would be more accommodating. They asked for your name and lease details-salesman,MSRP, capitalized cost, etc; and I told them I would have to get back to them on that.
    JM is my second Lexus dealer I have contacted. Neither aggressively goes after you. No pressure on test drives but no follow up either.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Please do not post your email address. It is public in your profile and as long as someone is logged in, they can get it by doing just as you say, clicking on the link to your name. If someone can't see it, it's because they are not logged it. Posting it allows every spam bot and any other web crawler to snag it, but having it public in your profile - as you do - only allows logged in members to see it.

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Okay. Thanks.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    I almost made a deal for $670 a month for 39 months on the GS 430 but after reading the fine print in the brochure that the brake pads wear very quickly and have to be checked and possibly replaced every 20,000 miles or so and even worse, the tires have to be replaced at 15,000 miles or less. At around 300 a tire for those 18" run flats, that's at least $2400 just in tire replacements over a 3 year lease.
    Deal breakers. No thanks.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    You do realize they are just *warnings*??? ARe the brake pads really any different from any other Lexus on the market or from other cars?? The tires lasting 15K is just another *warning*. the 17" equipped GS400/430's have been coming with that warning since 1998, and you know what? People have gotten alot more out of those tires than 15K miles. I've read people getting 45-50K miles out of those tires.

    Also, you do realize that brake pad wear and tire wear are largely dependant on each independant driver's driving habits???
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Thanks for putting some sanity into all this. I'm not a reckless driver and I do mostly highway driving so hopefully I can get more than 15k out of those tires.
    I just got another nice lease offer and I do believe I will take them up on it.
    I love the GS430.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    If you're not even close to being part of the *Fast and the Furious* crowd you will definately get more than 15K miles out of a set of tires and definately more than 20K out of brakes.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Thanks. I have an appointment Wednesday to drive the GS 430 one more time before I seal the deal. Never had a Lexus before.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    I almost closed on a GS430 this morning. Was offered a very good deal.
    Same thing. Found the driver's seat extremely uncomfortable. The seat back could not be straightened close to vertical. The most upright position I could achieve put a strain on my back as it caused me to lean back too much. No deal.
    Went next door to try a BMW 545 and found the driver's seat much more satisfactory.
  • sdcalsdcal Posts: 16
    Sorry folks, I know I'm not going to be popular on this site, and was really just "checking it out," but I had to comment on this post.

    I test drove all the suspects (M's, GS, 545i). They are ALL REALLY NICE CARS. However, I was under whelmed with the 5 series. Not enough bang for the buck, and the interior was too primitive. The GS was very nice, but didn't excite me from the driving perspective. I went with the M45 Sport and am not the least bit disappointed. To say it accelerates like an old pick-up is really a joke (I guess the objective folks at R&T just don't know cars...). The bottom line is if you want a luxury car that's kinda sporty, get the GS, if you want a sports car that more than kinda luxury, get the M.

    By the way, in either case, get the V8 (IMO). If your worried about gas mileage, try to Accord. It's almost as good as the Luxury versions and a lot more "practicle."

    "Can't we all just get along."
  • I have to disagree with the V8, not everyone needs it, the GS300 V6 is great for me. I had the Accord and indeed its a terriffic car and I think you get alot for your money for 26K in the loaded Accord V6 leather, but the GS300 is in a completely different league...

  • I should also add that the GS300 gets the same gas mileage on hwy (30mpg) as the accord which is a testament to Lexus engineering for putting out 30mpg on a heavier more"energy consuming" platform...

  • dcgasmandcgasman Posts: 4
    Hey hpowders,

    "Driver's seat was extremely uncomfortable" but you eventually closed a deal on a GS 430 anyway? What put you over the top and convinced you to get the 430 and not the 545, with its "much more satisfactory" seats :) , or the M, which I know was also under consideration in some of your earlier posts.

    By the way, I've had my GS 430 for about two weeks - couldn't be happier! Hope your experience will be the same.


  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    No. I didn't close the deal on the GS430. The driver's seat was too uncomfortable for me. I have a very sensitive back and couldn't get comfortable. Wanted the seat back more vertical. Sat in the LS430. Much better seat but am not interested in that vehicle.
    Yes, the 545 is one heck of a fine car. No problem with the seats.
  • Take pity on a new member to the board. I am emptying the next of kids to haul around/ and or their stuff to college. My current vehicle is a 1993 Toyota Previa with 155 K miles. Even though we are in the middle of college, I have sacrified long enough (since Dad has a relatively new truck, ATV, dirt bike, and motorcyle). Just about anything would be a step up- but I am interested in a luxury sedan to enjoy. I have a long drive of 30+ miles one way through Dallas traffic and I want a luxury car to enjoy.
    I have admired Acura and Lexus for many years, but my secret prejudice has always been for Lexus. For someone contemplating a Lexus, how would you all suggest I go- new or used? Any dealer suggestions in the DFW area?
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    That depends on what car you're looking for and how much you want to spend. The GS is of course new this year. If you're willing to consider the old one, however, it sat basically unchanged from 2001-2005, so you can get into a loaded '02 GS430 with Nav and the ML stereo for maybe half of the original sticker. The LS430 received powertrain and styling updates for '04, but the '01-'03 LS430s are still excellent cars (I know, I drive one). Thanks to the best reliability of any luxury car company, any used Lexus is a safe choice.
  • The first question which will determine everything is how much you want to spend..

  • I want to stay around 40K. What do you suggest in that range?
  • Loaded ES330? I think the GS with tax and all will push you into the 45 range unless you are one of the guys who can get 4 grand off MSRP like some guys here have done.

  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    $40K can get you into a new ES330, an '03 GS430, or an '02 LS430. Or, if you really want to have some fun, try a '02 SC430 (provided you dont need any trunk space). Frankly I think the lightly used cars present much greater values than a new ES330. They have already taken the biggest depreciation hit, and should be trouble free for many years. The SC especially is the planet's most reliable car.
  • docnukemdocnukem Posts: 485
    It would be nice to know what needs you have regarding size (eg. back seat for kids). If I was in college and had no kids, the Acura TL or the Infiniti G35 coupe with the MT would be a blast. You could also pocket a little change. Since you say a sports sedan and you are posting here on the GS board, a used GS430 would probably be the way to go. Look at the G35 sedan and the M35, though.
  • Just curious, why is the SC the planet's most reliable car- relative to an LS or GS?

  • Youngest is 17 and unwillingly goes anywhere with parents. Probably only back seat needs long term will be move college man from one apartment to another and semi annual visits to the in-laws 500 miles away. Thanks for the suggestion on the Acura and Infiniti. I guess I have admired my sister in law's Lexuses for a dozen years in the minivan so that is my initial leaning. How do realiability of Acura and Infiniti measure up to Lexus- not to mention repair costs?
    As my brother the engineer put it, "The problem with the nice cars is they have a lot of neat stuff to break. My Toyota has been good but doesn't have all the neat stuff my wife's Lexus has and that neat new stuff seems to like to break (automatic folding mirrors for example). Also the repairs are much more on her Lexus than my Toyota (even regular scheduled maintenance like 30K mile maintenance)."
  • docnukemdocnukem Posts: 485
    Sorry, I misunderstood your initial post. I overlooked the "emptying the nest of kids" and focused on "in the middle of college".

    If you want a sport sedan, look at the Acura TL (although you will hear of understeer from the FWD), GS, G35, M35, or any 3/5 series.

    If you want reliable luxury, look at a used Lexus LS.

    If you want a nice sedan that will respond when you floor it but may not handle the curves quite as well as the sports sedan, you might check out the new Avalon (fully loaded for around 38k). Another alternative if you don't want to draw attention to yourself but want a reasonably fast sedan and want to feel good about yourself would be the Honda Accord Hybrid (fully loaded for--I think--about 33k)
  • r1_97r1_97 Posts: 181
    Try a new RX330. My wife loves hers.
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