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  • I might do the deposit thing. But I have to sell my car first and then it all depends on when my car sells and when the other one comes in. I talked to my bf about it and he said we could share his car if there is a gap between my honda and my tC. So I think it'll all be good.


    I assume a deposit would be refundable...I asked the dealer about it and there was a rude-[non-permissible content removed] woman there who would not level with me. I asked her "if I decide I don't want the car can I get my deposit back?" she said yes but then went off about how it would not be fair to them if they special ordered it and then I didn't want it, blahblahblah. I said "of course I wouldn't ask you to get the color I want from another state unless I was serious about it, but if I don't like it when it gets here, I don't want to buy it."


    One issue with ordering a car or reserving one that's coming in soon is that I think I like the flint mica (from seeing a color sample) but it might look very different when I see it on the actual car. Ya know? I think I'll go to the other delearship in town because the one I was describing above was kinda rude. There are only two in Tucson, but I'm going to check Phoenix, too. So do you know about bringing cars in from other states?


    Thanks again for all your info, you all. And you are right- why should they haggle if people are buying the car for MSRP? And I do believe it is a good deal. I went on the saturn website and compared the Ion and there were so many things that are standard on the tC which are options on the Ion and the value for the tC is so much better. Plus, it just looks freakin' cool. :)


  • I also ordered a flint mica tc from McGeorge Toyota in Richmond, VA. They also asked for a $100 (maybe $200?) deposit on my credit card. But, they never ran in it through, they said they wanted the deposit just as a good faith gesture, and they said if I came in and saw the car and didn't want it for any reason, they'd refund my deposit (if they'd actually run it through in the first place.)


    I've had other car dealers do this and it seems like it's their way of finding out if the person with whom they are dealing is serious enough to incur the expense of ordering a car or if the prospective customer is just killing time on a Saturday afternoon. Under the terms that McGeorge suggested, I have no problem with that approach.


    As it turns out, I bought the car, love it, and the folks at McGeorge couldn't have been cooler about the whole thing.


    As far as trade-in is concerned, I took my old truck to CarMax (I'm not sure they are everywhere but they are in a lot of markets around the country) and they will buy any car that comes in whether you buy one of their cars off the lot or not. CarMax gave me a written offer to purchase (have to use it in seven days or 300 miles whichever comes first). I took that offer to McGeorge, where I bought the tc, and they took one look at it and said they couldn't beat it. To prove what good sports they were, the salesman from McGeorge drove my old truck back to CarMax the night I bought the tc so I could finalize the transactions on both the new car and the sale of the old one without making a second trip to either dealership.


    I had a great experience with the Scion dealer and the whole transaction. So far, the car's as good as the salesmanship. Good luck hunting for a new tc!
  • I just wanted to say. Most of the cars are "ordered" from Japan. Not from other states. Of course, living in CA, it could be because we have "ports" whereas in AZ, you don't. So, I have no clue where your car would really come from.


    Also, my dealership said to me, it's a $500 deposit and we WILL cash the check or run the credit card. We will return it if you choose not to. I asked them what will happen with the car, and he said, "we'll sell it that day, the cars do not sit on the lot very long".


    So, for me, at my dealership, that's how it works.


    Good luck on timing the whole sell, get the money, buy the car bit. lol. I didn't want to go thru the hassle, so i'm just taking the loss on my Honda.


    BTW, there are cars that sell easily over MSRP, because it's all about supply and demand. I know I want a BMW M3, and it's easily $5k over MSRP. So, for the tC to sell at MSRP, okay, I'll take it. lol.


    Good luck.

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 24,868
    In theory, the cars sit at the U.S. port, and when you place your order, the dealer attaches to oneand has your options installed, then it is delivered to the dealer.


    If you haven't even been able to try the car out, the deposit will be refundable.


    The dealer isn't going to lose anything if you don't take the unit, they will just sell it to someone else.


    I think the small deposit is mostly to get you to feel committed. If nothing else, it makes sure that you have to contact them at least one more time (to get the deposit back if not buy the car).

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Not only that but at least it gives you a chance to at least get to test drive the car, something a lot of folks haven't had the chance to do since most tC's are being sold before they hit the lots. At least in my area.


    tCkitty, I would go to another dealership if you didn't feel comfortable and were not treated with courtesy and respect.

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  • Yes, that's a good point. You're totally right. I got a much better vibe at the other dealership, so I'm just gonna ignore the one where they were weird to me.


    I'm going to call the nicer one and ask about getting an automatic car in the color I want and putting a deposit down and all the stuff we were posting about. I love the internet. There is so much great info- on this site, especially!
  • Just to share buying experiences - I was trying to time my tC purchase to the expiration of a lease (Jeep). I had visited a dealership near my work several times and found a young guy there to be quite helpful and accomodating. When it came time to order, for reason of convenience I ordered from an acquaintance at a dealer closer to my home and wanted only a Black Cherry Auto.

    As time ticked away, I spotted an available Black Cherry at the original dealer and had my friend call to see if he could get his hands on it. They would not trade the car, so with my friends best wishes ended up buying from the original guy after all.


     This dealer also owned a DCX dealership and conveniently accepted my Jeep return on the spot saving me a lot of hassle. All-in-all my experiences with Scion dealers (and I visited at least six of them on a regular basis trying to see every color option) was very favorable in spite of the fact that I knew more about the car than any of them. I chalked that up to it being a new model and the fact that I have come to expect very little along those lines from any car salesman.


    As for after sales service - hey it's a Toyota, I wouldn't know about that, I never have to go back to the dealer.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 24,868
    Most dealers will hang onto the car for you for a while if you are working on selling your old one, so if there is a little overlap that way, it shouldn't matter.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • I just noticed on the scion site that all Scion prices went up a tick..
  • Hey everyone. Have been reading posts for a few months now and I think I am finally off to order my new TC tomorrow. Just a few quick questions for you all. First is color? I never thought I would like a blue car, but when I went to test drive I saw the Azure Pearl and thought it was gorgeous. Its either that or Flint Mica which is on display in the mall and also looks sharp. I think the blue might grow old. Anyone have these colors or opinions.


    Also, if I was to order tomorrow and I know I want side airbags, fog lights, 6 disc and XM, any idea on the time frame for delivery. Also more specifically aboout the XM, does it come installed through the radio? I have a XM receiver in my car now, but I thought it would be more of a hassel to have it removed and then installed in the TC. Any thoughts?


    And lastly, is there any sort of special service plan when you buy the car (oil changes, check-ups?)




  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    mic813, the hold up here will be finding a car with the side airbags. Scion under estimated the demand for side airbags and is only building a small percentage of the total monthly production with side airbags. To answer your other question, some dealers are more on the ball than others. You can build you Scion online and e-mail it to the dealer of choice or print it out and bring it with you. The ideal situation and this is where the dealers on the ball come in, is that they will input your desired accessories onto the dealer network computer and "add" them to the vehicle you want. This ensures that the car arrives at the dealership with everything you wanted. If they aren't on the ball then they wait until the car gets to the dealership and install the stuff there. Nothing wrong with this except you have to wait for your car longer.

                           : )

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Sorry, I didn't answer all your questions. You get 3 complimentary oil changes from Scion. Some dealerships may offer lifetime state inspections, and other perks but that's the dealership itself and not Scion. The XM radio is hooked to the main head unit and there is a small box that attaches to the rear of the vehicle. The Azure blue makes the car look expensive and elegant IMHO. The Flynt mica makes it look bold and expressive. Both are nice colors. You can't go wrong with either one. As far as delivery time goes, it's just a matter of finding a dealer that has that color with the side airbags allocated to them. In that case delivery time should be no more than 6-8 weeks.

                     : )

  • Re: color, I considered the azure blue also. I think I would need to see the actual car in that color to be certain but I have a feeling it could get old, also. I am personally going for the silver streak, I think. I thought about flint mica, but I live in a place that gets to 105 degrees regularly, and they already have a black interior, so a dark exterior would only attract more evil sunlight.


    Anyway, just wanted to say that I think a color like that can get old, and I understand what you meant. On the other hand, if you are reading this and getting annoyed at what I am writing, then deep down you really like that color and should just get it. :)


    My dealer here said he could get the car the way I want it in 2 weeks. I think after i get back from being out of town on Tuesday I'm going to order it. yay!
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 24,868
    I have Flint Mica, and it looks nice on this car, especially with the dark glass roof.


    But, I park near a Blue one at work, and seeing it in the daylight, I really like it, and might change if I had it to do over. Makes the car look different, in a nice way, but it is possible that the blue might look passe at some point.


    Look at them both, and get whichever looks best to you.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • Thanks for of the info and advice. But unfortunately I'm now more confused then ever about what color to get .. haha. Oh well, guess I'll make the gut decision this afternoon when I go to order. I can't wait.
  • maybe this will help

    here is my indigo ink pearl
  • check out the 06 Civic. It looks far too much like my tC to be a coincidence..

  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    These are small cars. There are only so many ways you can mix it up. There's a lot of TSX up front and the rear looks like an old Ford ZX3 in this photo.


    We only see the tip of the iceberg in the U.S., if you saw all the coupes and hatches availlable in Europe, you'd see how hard it is to be "different".
  • A month after I purchased the car I took it on a 570 mile jog down to St. Louis this week. The thing ran great, I still love how smooth the manual slides through the gears once it gets warmed up.


    A few things that popped up along the way:


    1) When you take the gas cap off most other cars seem to have a metal plate that will be pushed aside by the nozzle on the pump. Upon closer inspection I did not see one on the tC. Could someone else confirm this is or is not present on the tC? On mine it just looks like a black hole into the tank, no (brass I think) plate in the way. Reason I ask is #2.


    2) Has anyone else had trouble getting certain gas nozzles to work in the tank? Twice today on my trip I had cases where the nozzle refused to pump gas into the tank because it thought the tank was full (did the little auto click off). The first one was at an older station with old pumps; I thought it might have been the nozzle so I shrugged it off and just waited to fill up. Then once in St. Louis I stopped at a QT that I know just went in a few years back (newer equiptment) but I had the same problem. This time I was able to back the nozzle out a little and then it worked fine. I'm just wondering if this and #1 might be related.


    3) Has anyone else noticed a click in the center of the dashboard? It happened for a period of about 2 hours this morning and then went away. I'm not sure if it was a side effect of the dash expanding as it warmed up; it was just a little annoying as it would click over bumps. I'm not worried about it, was the first time I had heard it, and it went away.


    4) One thing I've noticed is the car tends to grind when trying to put it in reverse unless the vehicle is completely stopped. I've had other vehicles do this if there was any forward motion but never reverse also. Clutch is completely depressed when it happens. I couldn't be further from an engine wiz but is it because of a lack of a synchronizer on the reverse gear?


    This could look like complaining. However, it is nothing more than nit picking. I love the car to death. I guess being the first vehicle I've owned I could be biased, but the whole experience from the sale to the drive has been nothing but satisfaction. The college grad program is a Godsend also. I was able to get a better rate than my parents (whom have very excellent credit) did on a corolla they bought last year.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 24,868
    I'll try.


    No problem with pumping gas (But, since I am in NJ, I have never done it myself). Always goes in and fills up normally from what I can tell.


    I have a few different clikc/squeaks/whatevers. One thing I did have the I found was the headliner rallted slightly over bumps, which kinda soundsed like a click from the center stack until I figured out what it was.


    Reverse can be tricky on any car, and I think Toyotas are particularly notable for it. One trick, is to put it in neutral, let out the clutch, then depress the clutch again and move it into reverse. Somehow it frees up the gears. I think I got the steps right...


    And, what kind of mileage did you get on the trip?

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • As for the final I'll have to get back to you. I forgot to grab the last receipt and enter it in and calculate. Halfway through I filled up and was only at about 25.4 if I remember. I've only filled a few times and so far it's been 24 (was a guestimate), 21, then 25. I'm hoping now that I'm >1000mi it will bring the highway up closer to the advertised 29.


    I'll be heading back to the cold north in a few days though so I'll get a good trip now that the learning is over to see where it stands.


    The drive is all highway, speed limits range from 55 to 70, average speed of traffic (and my speed) are probably around 70.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    There is a click associated with the fuel pump. There is a note about this inside the car on one of the how should I put this. A small cardboard clip-on that hangs on the a/c vents. I first saw it when my son's tC came in. Most customers will probably not see this as their vehicle more than likely has been cleaned of any plastic and cardboard that's in the car. There should be a mention of this in the owner's manual. This is completely normal.

                     : )

  • Anyone know if the controls for the side mirrors are supposed to light up when you turn your lights on??
  • scimescime Posts: 1
    This reply may be a bit late for you, but maybe others can benefit from it.

    My friend who works for Toyota hooked me up with a big dealership in the LA area. He couldn't get me anything off the price - unlike the great "VIP" pricing he has been able to get some of our friends. They told me it would be 2 - 3 weeks.

    In the meantime I went looking at other dealerships, and was ready to buy a Flint mica tC at another dealership. This wasn't the car I wanted but it was available now. It had chrome wheels on it, which they had priced at $2K. The salesperson agreed to come down to $1500 (still way overpriced I learned later from this site). I had ny checkbook out and at the last minute the sales guy said his boss wouldn't let him sell the wheels for less than $2K. I ended up walking out, and I am hapy that I did. I git my TC from the original dealership, snd the pricing matched up exactly to waht the website said.

    Bottom line - there are dealerships that wil try yo force you to buy leather seats, chrome wheels, higher end stereos etc. If you get one of those walk out, and find a dealership that is willing to live with the non-negotiable pricing that Toyota has established.

    Mine is Azure Pearl and I love it - get the exhaust add on, it makes the car.
  • markg4markg4 Posts: 44
    i took the plunge today. i went in to test drive a tc and bought a 5sp flint mica which will be delivered in 2 weeks. it was the smoothest car buying experience i could hope for too. the only issue was the trade in on my 2000 si with 64k miles. they wanted to low ball me at $8,300 but after i showed them the edmunds online trade in value of $9,500 they gave me the $9,500 for my car (not bad seeing that i paid $16.5k for the si 5 years ago). it comes with the upgraded floor mats and a chrome exhaust and had a sticker of $16,600 with the dest. charge. i will pay the $7,300 (i left a $500 credit card deposit) balance in cash when i pick up the car in a few weeks. the whole transaction only took 1 hour and was a complete pleasure. i plan to order a a few things like the wheel locks, mud flaps & speedstar shifter online from can't wait to start tooling around in my new car!
  • I ordered my car yesterday! I made a bizarre switch at the last minute to Azure Pearl. After seeing it in person, it has more color to it than the Silver Streak, and I liked it. It is not overly blue. Anyway, it will be about two weeks and they offered me crap for my Honda, so I'm trying to sell it on my own. I'm very excited. Thanks for your advice and stuff. I'll post a picture when it gets here.
  • Just wanted to say hey to everyone. Ordered my tC (silver) today and it's set to hit port on 3/3, so my dealer said I should expect it by the 15th. I'm stoked! Buying experience was awesome, and the dealer even wrote up the order for the "old" tC retail ($50 less than currently listed retail). Nice. Been lurking on this board for weeks and hearing all the good things written about the tC here definitely influenced my decision. Thanks!
  • I changed from Silver Streak to Azure Pearl at the last minute too. I saw all of the colors in person and loved them all. (Online pics and the small paint chips at the dealer don't do any justice.)

    The Azure Pearl hides the 'road dirt' very well and looks cleaner longer than other colors I've owned. It wasn't a decision factor for me. Rather, more of an observation since I've had it for 6 months now.
  • That's funny! It seems like Azure Pearl is really another silver option- a blueish silver instead of a white/grey silver.

    And YES, those paint samples at the dealer don't let you know what a real car will look like in that color. The impact of a color on a vehicle is much different than on a 4"x12" flap of laminated rubbery material.

    Yay yay yay car! Actually the azure one I saw was someone's that had just come in and it had a SOLD sign on it. Soon I will see one that looks like that- for ME!
  • markg4markg4 Posts: 44
    i ordered the B pillar & rear bumper app's along with the mudguards, obx shifter & wheel locks. any one else have the app's on their tc? i am wondering how they look. i should have my car this week btw.
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