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Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)



  • My 06 GT with the 18" wheel option came with p235/50zr18 Goodrich G-Force kdw tires. I'm not sure what they mean by "suspension upgrades" but mine is "firm" that's for sure.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,926
    From what I heard, they softened the suspension with the 18" wheels to keep the ride "compliant."
  • gtforme2gtforme2 Posts: 23
    We have an 05 GT, with the 17" wheels. Thinking of upgrading to the to 18" wheels. If went to 18" you'd think we'd feel lot stiffer ride? Would there be a way to keep ride same as today with the 18" wheels?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,000
    You could try a different brand of tire but when you go from 17" to 18" wheels (keeping the same overall tire diameter) you're reducing the sidewall height which typically results in a stiffer sidewall and more harshness. A different tire brand or model *might* compensate for that to some degree. But I'd count on some reduction in ride quality.

    You'll also severely reduce your tire choices and increase your tire costs.
  • pony_piratepony_pirate Posts: 317
    Those are down sides to 18" wheels. So what's the up side? Is it mostly cosmetic, rather than performance?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,000
    I'd say it's 80% looks, 20% performance. And that's only if you're really pushing the car extremely hard or running on a track day. In normal or even spirited driving you won't notice much difference in handling, but you will probably get more harshness especially on uneven roads.

    My advice is to stick with the 17" tires - even if you change wheels. If you think you still want the 18s - go price the same tire in both sizes just so you know what you're facing when it's time to buy new ones.
  • pony_piratepony_pirate Posts: 317
    I forget which, but one of the major car mag reviews of the new Mustang faulted the tires, wishing the car came equipped with "stickier" tires. What would be an improvement over the Perrelli's? What could one expect to pay? Does Michelin make good performance tires?
  • Just picked up my 06 GT with 18" fanblades. I test drove many GTs with 17", and I can tell you that I don't notice any significant difference in ride harshness. I hadn't heard about the suspension tuning for 18 wheels until now -I'd like to see more definite proof of that. I too was concerned about ride quality with the 18s, but I'm very pleasantly surprised and happy with the ride quality. This car absolutely rocks!
  • gtforme2gtforme2 Posts: 23
    Hey all, thanks for the feedback. You're right on the looks piece, that's what appealed to me. The 18's close up that gap of open space between tire and fender that just looks better. But, frankly I like the way the car rides now. Before even drove the car was concerned about the ride (wether it would be comfortable enough to drive over extended periods). It's proven to be "just right" (not Papa Bear and not Baby Bear) combination of smoothness and firmness, but not harsh. So given what's been said; cost, ride comfort, and minimal performance gain I guess I'll stick w/ the 17's.

    One other question, I have the brushed aluminum wheel, what does everyone think about changing out the wheels to the to the bullet chrome's?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,000
    Michelin makes great performance tires - the Pilot line is hard to beat for performance and comfort but they're also really expensive. Check out the tire surveys at
  • kwhkwh Posts: 68
    My son is looking at a 2005 Mustang 6 cyl. He likes the look of the big fog lights on the GT. How much would it cost too have the big fog lights installed on a used 2005 Mustang? Thanks.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    I think my dealership paid about $600 to have them installed on a V6 coupe.

  • smaher007smaher007 Posts: 14
    I recently test drove an 06 GT, and the engine seemed to be sleeping below 4000 rpm. Of course, I only got to drive it for a few minutes with the salesman carefully eyeing the speedometer. What does everyone else think about its low end power? If I did buy a Mustang, I'd rather not rev it all the way up to 6000 on a regular basis, but is that what it takes to get truly impressive acceleration?
  • pony_piratepony_pirate Posts: 317
    "Sleeping below 4000 rpm"? What gear were you in? How fast exactly to you need to go? My GT takes off like a rocket in 1st thru 3rd, so much so that I had to watch myself carefully when the car was new, because it was too easy to hit 40 in a half a block. In day-to-day traffic, I usually shift around 1100-1200, the low end, both to save on gas and because there's just no need or room for additional speed or acceleration. (Only exception to this is steep hills.)

    At highway speeds, I occasionally drop down to 4th if I want to take off.
  • smaher007smaher007 Posts: 14
    It was normal around town traffic, and I should have mentioned that it was an auto cause thats all they had. Again, since it was only a test drive I only got a limited impression (btw, may I say that Ford dealers have no idea how to give an exciting test drive). The GTO 6.0 on the other hand, felt abundantly powerful at all rpms and pinned me to the seats. But i guess thats what 400 hp and torque will do for you.

    Overall, I'd rather get the Mustang, which is why I was hoping people would tell me I'm crazy and that the pony is plenty fast.
  • macatowamacatowa Posts: 69
    OK, you're crazy! the Mustang is plenty fast!
    GET A Manual 5 Speed!
  • smaher007smaher007 Posts: 14
    I also just remembered, I saw a few cars on the lot had California emission, since I live in a "cross-border state" (Pennsylvania). I'm not sure if my tester had it but I would assume CA emmission would hurt performance somewhat. Does anybody know how much impact it has?

    Thanks. :)
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    PA is not a crossborder state, its a CA emissions required. NJ is a cross border state.

    If you visited a PA dealer, everything you saw should have had CA emissions.

  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,229
    Wouldn't it specify CA emissions on the sticker? None of the vehicles on lots here in PA have CA emissions specified.
  • smaher007smaher007 Posts: 14
    I noticed it on some stickers but I wasnt really looking for it at the time. I didnt realize that PA was now a CA emission mandatory state, it wasnt last time I bought a car. I imagine either all stickers have it listed in the fine print, or maybe not all cars on the lots have it yet. I think it might be new in PA. :confuse:
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,229
    We just bought an '06 Explorer four weeks ago and nowhere on the sticker does it say CA emissions.

    I'm curious because I've not heard anything about this and am wondering if it's going to raise the price of our yearly required emissions test again. :surprise:
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,000
    I think all explorers meet CA emissions.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630

    Apparently, Ford and Shelby are getting together (again) to bring a GT350H to Hertz. A limited run of 200 black w/gold stripe Mustang GT's, with mild intake/exhaust upgrades (around 320hp) will be available from select Hertz dealers this summer.

    sweeeeeeet.... :)
  • lavrishevolavrishevo Posts: 312
    Only 320!? I gained close to 30 with intake and tune, let alone headers, exhaust, cats and x-pipe.... I'm not impressed at all.

  • spdwy33spdwy33 Posts: 21
    Yea - the pony is plenty fast. And a real blast to drive - not to mention damned good looking.

    GTO is blindingly fast, no question. But it is 'butt ugly' and not at all 'user friendly' as far as interior room. And it has those damned red gagues!

    We compared the pony against the GTO and the Hemi Charger. Rulled out the GTO in about five minutes. Charger took a little longer. But in the end, the librarian said it all - 'it won't be nearly as much fun writing a check for anything less than the Mustang'!!

    Silver premium GT convertible is on the truck now and should be in our hot little hands very soon!!

    Good luck!
  • zlskrszlskrs Posts: 9
    The 2007 order guide says both PA and NJ are Cross-Border states. CA emissions vehicles can be ordered in those states but it is not mandatory. CA emissions is mandatory for CA, ME, NY, MA, VT; optional in AZ, CT, NV, NH, NJ, OR, PA, RI. I saw the guide at
  • smaher007smaher007 Posts: 14
    Yea I saw that same guide too, but that previous post said PA is CA emissions mandatory. I looked into it on the web but couldn't find any conclusive evidence either way. I tend to believe the 2007 order guide since it just came out.
  • pony_piratepony_pirate Posts: 317
    Don't like the new 18-inch wheels. Prefer my 17-inch solid-aluminum wheels to the rounded spokes of the new 18-inchers. Prototype of the SVT Cobra GT500, btw, has similar flat snow-flake wheels, just thinner, not those thick rounded spokes.

    As for shiny chrome wheels, could you possibly shout "Pimp!" any louder? :shades:
  • lavrishevolavrishevo Posts: 312
    I think the 18" wheels are great, they stand out a lot more than the 17" aluminum ones. The ride quality is fine to. This of course is just my opinion but one neat thing to mention is that the sticker on the car said I had the normal 17" wheels and I did not check the tire size till after I got the baby home. So it worked out good for me, a 1,000.00 dollar option for free..... :) I'm not complaining.

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