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  • Thanks for all the input.

    When it comes to RWD and Coupe design, those are more of a preference than a necessity. FWD is not bad for me, again, because it will be more of a daily driver. I guess the reason I was looking at the RWD/AWD was to try something different and to allow me to have some fun because there is a track that has a free race day 1 Saturday a month literally 5 to 10 miles from where I am going to college. Some times the track is setup for drag, sometimes an oval, and sometimes, in a twisting/cornering course.

    After doing some more looking over the last few days, I found that I like the following vehicles over the others in the price range.

    1) Nissan Altima Coupe
    2) Nissan 350Z
    2) Honda S2000
    3) Mitsubishi Lancer RA or Evo GSR
    4) Dodge Challenger (the V6 base version that should be coming out)
    5) Mazda MX-5 Miata

    (was considering the RX-8, but it eats gas like a hog)

    As for the reason I want a MT instead of a AT is because I want to learn and become good at driving MT. I know that living in Houston means I will sooner than later get caught in traffic, however, I am only going to be in Houston for another year to year and a half and then I will be living at College in a much smaller college town, so traffic won't be as big of an issue.

    What are yall thoughts about the 5 vehicles I have listed? The Dodge Challenger with the V6 should bring better gas mileage and use reg octane which makes it favorable assuming the handling is ok.

    Bill
  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    Why take the Corvette out of the picture?

    A brand new one with no options can be bought for the low $40,000 range.

    Drop back to a 2007 or 2006 and one with few options should be found at $35,000.
  • Well, $35,000 was a maximum ceiling. If I can find something in the $20K that I enjoy (remember, any new car I get whether new new or slightly used will be a step up from my put put VW Jetta) I can live with that and any extra money be devoted to tuning (exhaust, headers, intake, etc.). Yall gotta remember that I am a broke college student. So, again, if its fun and cheaper, I will go with that.

    What I am really curious on is how people who may own these or have owned these vehicles liked them, how reliable they were, how were they on gas, etc. I am looking for real world experience with them, not just the numbers on paper so I can try to steer clear of problems as well as know what to expect if I choose one over the others.

    Bill
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 66,843
    I know you are coming out of a VW, but I'd rather have a GTI, than most of the cars you listed... Pretty loaded for $27K..

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  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    Wow.

    'Broke college student'

    'Tuning (headers, exhaust, intake)'

    'Reliable'

    What a convoluted, contradictary mess.

    Tuning - money absolutely thrown down a drain because of zero resale value and most with questionable performance value. This stuff usually conflicts strongly with reliability. And, if you are willing to 'use' any added performance capability, you sure are not worring about reliability.

    My opinion - If you want to go fast, buy fast. I especially love the Ford Ranger forums where the kids inquire "Who makes performance things for my 4 cylinder Ranger?"

    What you need - that used Civic you don't want to consider.

    What you want - buy any car you 'want', but do not mod it at all. Save all that money for repairs, because any used car is going to break, and you are going to be spending money on it.
  • Point taken and I do admit I am being a bit greedy and picky. I enjoyed my VW, but the repairs were more expensive than comparable work that would be done on a domestic or a Asian market car, so that is where I am coming from when I talk about reliability/service. As for tuning, I don't mean to buy some car and rice it out. I just mean that I may switch the audio components out and change an intake or exhaust, nothing major.

    Bill
  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    Thank you for your reply.

    I was expecting a ball of flame.

    Buy a 2005 Corvette at $30,000 that appears to be well cared for. If you can afford the insurance. Checking eBay's completed auctions, there were 6 Sold 2005 Corvettes at $35,000 or less in the last 2 weeks. Not that I am actually recommending you buy an auto off eBay. There are some scary potential problems there.

    You will not need to do any performance mods. 400hp is plenty.

    Start saving up toward repairs. You are going to have them on any used car.
  • Yeah, I hate when you constructively criticise someone when they ask for help, and then they get all pissy about it. That is why I don't do it.

    Anywho, I see your thought, but let me throw something else at you Bolivar. What if I were to wait for the 09 Dodge Challenger? Supposedly (and this is to be confirmed at the New York Auto Show in mid March) the 09 will include lesser versions. The SRT is a bit much engine/price wise, but there should be a lesser V8 (R/T) and a base V6 trim as well. I was thinking about maybe the V6 base model that should, in logical estimation, end up pricing somewhere in the $20Ks to be competitive with the Ford Mustang and 09 Camaro coming out. What are your thoughts on that?

    Bill
  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    I really don't keep up with autos enough to give you any kind of answer.

    Just thinking, could you get a new Mustang, V8, with low options for well under $30,000?

    This gives you a new car warranty, with nothing to repair for 3/30,000....
  • oregonboyoregonboy Posts: 1,653
    If you can afford the insurance.

    Now THERE is a key point. A young male definitely needs an insurance quote before he puts money down on any hi performance ride. Make that any car period. Insurance pricing can be incredibly capricious.

    Your insurance bill on a Corvette would probably make those maintenance charges on the Jetta seem like small-change. :(

    As a practical-minded individual, my recommendation would be a nice low-mileage, used Miata. There are a ton of them available, great mpg, bullet-proof reliability, no resale penalty for manual shift, great track car. The only major down-side is they are not great for long distance commutes and have (very) limited hauling capacity.

    james :shades:
  • cccompsoncccompson Posts: 2,388
    You can buy a new Mustang GT for less than $25,000.
  • I was looking into the Miata too. Personally, hauling/storage capacity isn't big on my necessity list. I do love to drive though, however, I only rarely go longer than 2 hours per trip at the most. More often than not it is smaller trips. I still haven't had a chance to plant my butt in one, though, so I don't know on the comfort level whether I will like it or not. Guess I can give that a try one of these weekends that I am free.

    Bill
  • gussguss Posts: 1,181
    While you are there you should try the RX-8, gas mileage is terrible but alot of fun for under $30k.. You will need to be average height or less though because they are a little cramped.
  • I was looking at that. I like the RX-7, and now the RX-8, but premium fuel with piss poor MPG is a big drawback...

    Bill
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    When you consider that it handles and drives a tiny bit worse(we're talking 5% or so) than a Porsche Cayman, that price difference of $20K buys an awful lot of gas.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 66,843
    Warning: If you aren't into BMWs, this may be a little boring..

    1) '04 330i sedan.. Manual tranny, Performance package, Xenons, Cold weather pkg.. all the toys.. White w/black Alcantara (synthetic suede) interior.. 26K miles.. Includes set of winter tires/wheels, and extension of BMW maintenance until July, 2010.. Under warranty until July, 2008.. Asking price $25,500

    2) '04 X3 3.0 litre.. Manual tranny, Premium package, big moonroof, Black w/TerraCotta leather, all the toys, except NO xenons.. No Sport (not a big deal on an X3). 38K miles.. No warranty..
    Asking price $23,500

    Both from private sellers..

    Whaddaya think?

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,737
    I think I want one. The X3 sounds tasty, although I honestly think that I would rather go with the steptronic.

    The 330 is probably a lot of fun though.

    2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 66,843
    Yeah... I actually want a stick... The only sticking point with the X3, is that is the vehicle my wife would like to have next... and she doesn't drive a stick.. So, it might stick in her craw, every time she saw me in it.. :)

    I might be able to make this a little tougher on you.... Both of the vehicles are located closer to you, than me.. ;)

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  • oregonboyoregonboy Posts: 1,653
    I've heard that the X3 has an really stiff ride with the Sport Suspension. I wouldn't be a bit disappointed by missing out on that. :)
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,737
    OK, how close?

    Not that I need one. Actully, might be able to get a real good buy on it, since an X3 stick must be a tough sell. I can see why, since I do think that anything "trucky" or trying to be an SUV makes more sense with an AT. It would also serve duty as the family primary transport, so more of the family could deal with it, and it would spend more time in situations where the manual wouldn't be of much use.

    I'm getting lazy in my old age I guess!

    2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,303
    The ZHP is the obvious winner. ;)

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 66,843
    The X3 is in a Philly suburb, and the ZHP is in northern Maryland..

    The only thing that worries me about the ZHP... possible boy racer type might own it.. plus, not wild about alcantara interior... it starts looking fuzzy and worn pretty quickly..

    Big plus for the X3? I love that Terra Cotta leather!!

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,737
    Hey, I am in one of them too! On the Jersey side. Got a link to this baby?

    2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,303
    there is an "M" badge underneath the 330i on the trunk lid

    hmmm... yeah ... that would give me pause, too. I'd have to check it out in person to look for any other telltale signs.

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,303
    Ya know, maybe I've got a narrow view of the universe, but I find it hard to believe a boy racer would have (1) been able to afford a new 330 ZHP and/or (2) put so few miles on it. I think only now, as preowned vehicles, would "boy racers" be able to get into such a car. So 3rd owners need beware. :)

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 66,843
    Well.. I've seen pics, and there is an "M" badge underneath the 330i on the trunk lid....

    That alone, scares me... :surprise:

    Anyway, that one is sold... it was in Hagerstown..

    The X3 is in West Chester...

    Can't link it.. it's on another forum... I'm a stickler for the rules, you know.. ;)

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,737
    OK, far enough away that I couldn't figure out a lame excuse to be "in the neighborhood"!

    2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • I was told that maybe I could ask my question here.

    I'm in the process of looking to replace my '97 2 door GrandAm with almost 125,000 miles on it. I've been looking seriously at the Saturn Aura, Saturn VUE and the Chevrolet Malibu. Anyone have any pros and/or cons of each of these?

    We also have a 2003 TrailBlazer that I LOVE. So I do already have a SUV so not sure I really need another one even though the VUE is smaller & more fuel efficient. I've also been struggling to determine the differences between the Aura & the Malibu. I will admit to liking the sales approach at the Saturn dealership better than our local Chevrolet dealership. BUT I can use GM card earnings on a Chevrolet & I can't on the Saturn.

    Any thoughts? Thanks!
  • jipsterjipster Louisville, KentuckyPosts: 5,443
    Quite a buzz over the new Malibu. I haven't driven one, but from what I've read it challenges the class leaders in quality and performance.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,737
    saw it at the car show, and it was very impressive, especailly the interior. The Aura is basically the same car, maybe a little "sportier", so that would qualify as get whichever one you like best!

    The Vue is going to suck more gas, and if you don't need another SUV I wouldn't bother.

    2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

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