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  • No, the Japanese get tons of tax breaks to come to the US and open up businesses, namely the banking and insurance industries (the richest businesses in the US)! They are rich in "our" country because of our cheesy gov't. Why should they continue to live in subpar conditions in japan when they can take over the US?

    Its a sad sad thing.
  • Ripple effect was explained to me when I was a sales rep for Toyota some years ago. The fact is
    when you buy an American car from an American based company It causes a "ripple effect" in our economy. The sale pays lots of people who live and work here in the US. From the assembly line
    to the showroom sales staff. The ripple effect is often double your dollars spent.
    Sure [non-permissible content removed] companys say "Built In the US" but the BULK of the profit winds up in a Bank in Japan.
    If the [non-permissible content removed]'s spent some of the GOLD here anywhere
    near the volume we do with them, our economic troubles would be far and few.
    American automakers were really sleeping in the 70's and 80's but they have really done the work
    these days....ask and owner.....Drive one for yourself....
  • Ok Ok, I know a lot of people out there are
    not going to agree with this, but who cares
    I don't. If the American companies could see
    through my eyes they would be a lot more prosperous, partly due to the fact I am 20 years
    old and will be in the market for a compact truck
    soon. What they fail to realize is that most
    people don't buy compact pickups to haul things.
    Sure we want a little capablility to haul but
    not necessarily 6,000lbs. WE WANT AN O.R.V. (off-
    road vehicle). You see young males like myself
    want a compact pickup because it is manly. We
    don't want to buy an SUV because we don't have
    familys and there trendy anyways and besides most
    people who have SUV's don't even take them off-road they take them to the mall. We don't won't
    to look cute in a little RAV4 or honda CRV. But
    we want off-road capablilties. you see Dodge-
    good idea with the v-8 but its too big and a
    gas guzzler. Chevy good but poor build quality.
    Ford Ranger good but underpowered. Toyota Tacoma
    PERFECT - but I don't want to buy a Japanese car
    or Truck. But a lot of people in my generation
    don't care anymore so I suggest the "BIG 3" wise
    up and Revise your compact pickups and gear
    them to be light, fuel-efficient, yet powerful
    offroading machines!!!!!!!!!!
  • I will do my very best to ensure that all of the manufacturers are made aware of your views - I am sure that it will be a real insight to them.

    You say most SUVs never go off road - you gotta be kidding. Jeez all of us old guys thought that they lived off road, guess I'll have to look around at the mall next time.

    20 year old boys want to look manly - get away, now you're pulling our legs right - you mean you don't want to drive a lilac neon.

    Well here are some real insights. None of the car manufacturers are basing their new investments on 20 year old single men. Why, because most can't afford new vehicles.

    The Dakota V8 a gas guzzler - no. It is about 1 mpg less than the V6. Ford Ranger underpowered - now hang on - the V6 is underpowered, the V8 is a gas guzzler. Tacoma is perfect - well until someone hits you from the side I guess.

    I don't mean to be patronising, but I really think that corporate America, and Japan, have a better idea of what they are doing than one 20 year old kid.
  • afs11afs11 Posts: 87
    When you all talk about US & Japan, is Canada & Mexico in the USA camp? Ontario produces almost as many cars & trucks as Mich. USA.
  • I think people should by the best vehicle available no matter where its made. That is the only way to keep U.S. Auto makers competitive. If you buy american no matter what there is no incentive for US auto makers to improve the quaility of their product.
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    They still have each other to battle against.

    Unless there is only one Manufacturer....they will be improving and be competitive..

    My 2.6975425 cents worth..

    - Tim
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    But I still hold my opinion.

    yeah...We help keep Americans working in Foreign co. plants here in the US...But the REAL huge chunk of the profit goes....Bye ByE!!

    To never be seen again in this Country..

    The $$ that goes back farr greater than the Money that the workers take home..

    Perhaps we could wake up and stop buying these Imports...and all those workers could go to work for the big new plants that would open if the Imports would go away?

    It's no secret...I hate import cars..

    - Tim
  • afs11afs11 Posts: 87

    What does a truck built in Oshawa, Ontario classify as? Foreign or American???

    I always wonder when Americans start the buy USA chant!
  • blindblind Posts: 1
    I was about to buy a new Dodge ram 2500 4X4 when I found it was built in mexico. If I wanted an import, I would have gone to Toyota. Seems like all manufacturers are moving production where it is cheapest, which is their option. But it is my option to reject the product as well.
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162


    - Tim
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    Although many of you know me, I am not an import basher. I believe strongly in competition, fair competition. What many fail to see is that the Japanese govt. subsidises their car industry. In America where we have a far more open market this would be unheard of. Our standard of living here in the U.S. is astronimical in comparison to Japan. They pay extremly high prices for goods we take for granted everyday.
    I believe if it weren't for Toyota/Honda/Nissan or whomever quality/reliability of cars would have stagnated or not climbed as fast as it has in just the last 10 years.
    China is a whole other story. I won't buy made in China. We are feeding a giant folks. Learn and read about this very volitile govt. One day this giant is going to take a swing at the U.S. and its going to hurt, believe me.
  • China is one of the nations that if we where to start something with. We would be sorry. they have so many people they could just keep sending them. steve
  • RoclesRocles Posts: 985
    China is the 400lb gorilla that Clinton won't challenge. You must challenge them now while we can afford to; otherwise we'll have a big problem in the future.
    With that said, it is the average slug-dummy American who continues to buy goods at Wal-Mart and the like which continue to fuel China. Everyone here can talk a good game but you are all bull-sh*tters. Don't buy the cheap stuff. Get some discipline and apply it! I don't include Japan because they are no where close to China is when it comes to human rights. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU'RE MOUTH IS!!!!!!
    I buy foreign made goods but they include Japan and Europe--how about you? Where was your shirt made? Pants? Shoes? You will continue to feed the dragon despite any "tough" rhetoric so where's the beef??
    I proudly own Honda generators(best made--any challenge?) along with my American-made Bostichs but origin had no say in the matter--only QUALITY.
  • tp4unctp4unc Posts: 437
    You've got my vote for Honda generators. Their small engines are second to NONE!!
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    ..Aren't those the same engine that goes in Import trucks and cars?

    The Honda Tindra?.

    I think I seen a pull cord coming out the fender of the last Tindra i saw??


    Ginsu's anyone?

    - Tim
  • You are too much dude! You're response was what I needed to brighten my day!
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    to #85??

    Must have been too friendly of a response??

    - Tim
  • tp4unctp4unc Posts: 437
    You're not a Briggs guy are you?
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    The other Tindra Engine??...Right??

    - Tim
  • RoclesRocles Posts: 985
    Oh man......if one has to buy a small motor from the states make it a Tecumseh or Kohler!! Briggs? GASP!!
  • not trying to start an arguement, but the Tecumsah is made by Briggs and Stratton plant. Look at documentation on a Craftsman lawnmower. It is a Tecumsah engine, but the manufacturer info, parts replacement, etc. are all from Briggs and Stratton.

    The Tecumsah is just the Oldsmobile or the Lincoln in comparison to the Chevy or Ford.
  • they have changed hands in the last few years.
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Posts: 4,162
    We have gone from trucks to Lawnmowers??

    What's next?...Knitting?

    ...Trucklover would have to be the authority on that one!


    - Tim
  • Well I put a post up within the last twenty,
    some dude says the auto makers don't care
    what some 20 year old "boy" wants in a vehicle.
    Well this "boy" happens to be stationed overseas
    and works for the U.S. military. He is thinking
    of taking all of the "taxpayers" money he earned
    and buy a Toyota Tacoma. He really doesn't
    believe America can build a compact truck that
    can compete with the Tacoma. He was considering
    a Ranger but decides that there not powerful or
    off-road worthy enough. Doesn't it really hurt
    to find out that an American fighting for the
    country doesn't believe the country can build
    him a competent compact pickup? You don't even
    want to know what my opinion would be if we get into it with China.
  • "You don't even want to know what my opinion would be if we get into it with China."

    We don't want to know your opinion on "anything".

    Have fun driving that overrated, overpriced, thin sheetmetal, use once engine, poorest crash test scoring, no true locking differential, cheap interior, uncomfortable seating, no extended cab access, foreign country supporting pos truck.

    Oh, but that Turd sticker sure looks good, don't it? Too bad that sticker costs you as much as a real full sized truck that can actually do some work, tow a trailer, and get the same or better fuel economy as your wannabeatruck Tacoma.

    How about the cylinder heads that can't hold their own cylinder pressure and blow head gaskets before the engine is even broke in? Yep, Tacoma!
    Great overpriced truck.

    3rd MAW, HMH 363 Heavy Helicopter Squadron
    1st MAW, HMH 363, Futenma, Okinawa, Japan

    Zipperheads don't even treat the Marines that protect their lame country worth anything. They hold grudges against the US for the 1940's. Well, we did it once, and in my opinion, we should do it again, only do it final this time.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    In all seriousness, China is no joke. I ask my friends/family not to buy made in China and explain to them how hostile, inhuman the Chinese government is. Their human rights record is pathetic, yet we still give them preferd trade status. I don't buy made in China. I will buy made in Japan, Indonesia, Mexico, Germany.....
  • Hey buddy the mil ain't what it used to be.
    Were undermanned! New countries are blowing
    up nukes, nobody likes us, McFly.... McFly are
    you there?
  • afs11afs11 Posts: 87

    I agree with you 110%. I am not a citizen of the United States, but I really appreciate ALL the US military service people. I don't know what my country would have done without the US military to protect all of us. A big northern THANK YOU AMERICA!

    As far as China, I wouldn't trust them as far as I could spit! One more thing that bothers me is the way that France & some other so called friendly countries reguard the USA. They didn't mind the help just over 50 years ago, did they!

  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    I thought this topic was about buying American versus foreign made trucks. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe that China manufactures or markets trucks in the US of A.
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