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36/12 .00046 and 52%. $500 lease cash
Add 1% for 10k
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
What would be MF and RV for 2017 Santa Fe SE Ultimate with Tech Package (MSRP : 43445).
36/10,000 for CA ; Can you please provide for both FWD and AWD please.
AWD: .00079 MF and 61% residual
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2017 Santa Fe Sport 2.0L AWD
24/10
24/12
New Jersey
Thank You
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36/10
36/12
24/10
24/12
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
We're thinking about the SE Ultimate AWD (MSRP of $43,055 per the dealer website). Based on the numbers I've seen from prior months, I was considering just going into the dealer and telling them that I want a monthly payment of $350 for a 36/10 lease including 7% NJ tax on the payment and a $2,000 upfront cap cost reduction. I've assumed the acquisition fee rolled into the cap cost and that we'd pay tax/title/registration and first month out of pocket on top of the cap cost reduction. If they match it we'll take it, if not we go to the next place.
Thoughts on if this might work without knowing the specific September numbers? It doesn't look like the residuals or MF have moved too much over the past couple of months. Also, do my numbers make sense based on deals that you've seen? Given the time crunch, I'm OK with not haggling for every last dollar but I want to make sure that I'm at least in a reasonable ballpark.
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.00120 and 48%. $500 lease cash.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
12k/36 mos.
FL
Expected Cap Cost
MF
Residual
Any MSD's available?
TIA
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For some reference, what is the last set of numbers that you have?
MF, Residuals for 12k/36 mos.for RWD & AWD Ultimate with Tech. Pkg.
TIA
Do you numbers for Tucson's?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
2017 Santa Fe SE AWD/ Premium pkg
36/12
48/12
2017 Santa Fe SE AWD Ultimate Standard pkg
36/12
48/12
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
I've reviewed the last 3 months of data provided here and the Money Factor seems to be all over the map. For other manufacturers the MF doesn't change much by trim, because this is essentially the interest rate.
Does Hyundai use a different MF by trim, or it is highly variable by state? Does New England region use the same MF for all trims?
In the same month I've seen different MF for the 2017 Santa Fe SE AWD or FWD, Ultimate AWD or FWD, both 15k and 12k a year. Usually only the Residual Value would change based on these factors.
And yes, each trim level will have unique MF and residuals. Something that is different for Hyundai compared to other brands.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Is it likely to get the dealer to go significantly below invoice for the selling price before incentives, or is that usually best case scenario to be at invoice or slightly below?
Get multiple dealers to bid against each other - eventually you'll get the lowest price.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
SE AWD with Premium Pck
MSRP: $37,590
Selling price: $34,079
Rebates: ($250 lease cash) ($750 Conquest)
Cap cost: $$33,079
Adjusted Cap Cost with $595 Acq Fee Rolled-In: $33,674.00
Money Factor: .0005100
Residual Value: 72%
Monthly Payment(including sales tax) $327.81
Seem fair?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
This is a quote I received from a dealer:
MSRP $35690.00
INVOICE $34348..00
Sale price $32823.00 sale price
_750.00 competitive rebate
SALE PRICE $32073.00 INCLUDING FREIGHT.
.00013 money factor
$21770.00 residual
Monthly Lease Price: $384.00
Is this is a good structure and overall deal?
$70/mo is an additional $2500 - that's how much your taxes and fees should add up to.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Please respond with MF and RF for Santa Fe FWD SE Ultimate + Tech Package for 36/10k a year in TX
Also, is it true that in Texas, we pay taxes again if we plan to buy the vehicle after the lease?
Also, given the warranty of 5 years, curious why is it not a good idea to lease for more than 36 months?
I believe that is true, regarding taxes.
You'll still have maintenance costs, plus the potential cost of consumables (tires, brakes).
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Do you think it's possible to lease the 17' Murano SL with Tech or Hyundai Santa Fe SE Ultimate for $400 to $420/month - 0 out of pocket or am I really out of line?
Closed end lease for 2017 Santa Fe 4dr FWD GLS (Model # J0412F65) available from December 1, 2016 through January 3, 2017, to well-qualified lessees approved by Hyundai Motor Finance. Not all lessees will qualify. Higher lease rates apply for lessees with lower credit ratings. Offer shown based on $2,249 due at lease signing (includes $289 first payment and $1,960 capitalized cost reduction). No security deposit required. MSRP $31,695 (includes destination, excludes tax, license, title, registration, documentation fees, options, insurance and the like). Actual net capitalized cost $28,491. Net capitalized cost includes $595 acquisition fee and includes credit for $750 Valued Owner Incentive or $750 Competitive Owner Incentive. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect actual lease payment. Total monthly payments $6,936. Option to purchase at lease end $21,870
This is how I did it:
MSRP 31695
Net Cap Cost 28491
Lease End Residual Value 21870
Total Payment 6936
Finance Payment (Residual - (Net Cap - Total payment) 315
Monthly Finance Payment 13.125
MF=Monthly Finance Payment/(NCC + LE RV) 0.000260618
Payment towards Residual 6621
Residual % 0.791102698
Santa Fe Sports 2.0T Ultimate w/ Tech Package 36/10k
Sante Fe SE Ultimate w/ Tech Package 36/10k
Many thanks in advance for taking the time!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
69% residual.
At an adjusted CAP cost of $28,491, the money factor would have to be a whopping .00209 to come up with $289./mo.
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Also, the amount of negative equity would make a difference, as would term/mileage of the lease.
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Hyundai Sante Fe Sport 2.0T Ultimate AWD with Tech Package
36 / 10K
New York City (sales tax on depreciation amount @ 8.875%)
The Deal: $1706 Down / $389 x 35 months + $400 disposition fee
The Details:
MSRP: $41245
Agreed Price of Car: $36770
Gross Capitalized Cost: $38924
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Agreed Price of Car ($36770)
+ Sales / Use Tax ($1242) (8.875% tax on depreciation)
+ DMV Fees ($220)
+ Doc Fee ($75)
+ Misc Fee ($22.50)
+ Acquisition Fee ($595)
Capitalized Cost Reduction: $4653
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Cash Down ($1706)
+ Rebates ($3750) (3000 rebates and 750 competitive coupon)
- First month ($389)
- Sales / Use Tax on Capitalized Cost Reduction ($413) (cost reduction is still taxable @ 8.875%)
Net Capitalized Cost: $34270
Residual Value: $20622 (50%)
Depreciation: $13648
Rent Charge: $355 (.00018 Money Factor or .43% APR. I have excellent credit)
Total of Monthly Payments: $14004
Monthly Payment: $389
I think it’s a decent deal especially considering the really steep residual value drop (50%). Doing the math, the total monthly cost (to include money down and end of term fee) for leasing this car is $437 / month. However, since this is NYC, there is a 8.875% tax included which works out to roughly $46 / month. So the monthly cost without tax is around $390. That works out to roughly $108 per $10,000 of car being leased (excluding tax).
The interesting thing is the 50% residual value. Conventional wisdom is that such a low residual value makes it impossible to have a good lease deal but in this case, the deal is decent. The reasons: the $4475 discount from MSRP, the additional $3750 rebates, and the really low Money Factor.
What is really interesting to consider is that when the lease is up, if the car is worth more than the residual value estimate of 50%, then I might be able to pocket the difference (by purchasing the car at residual value and selling it at market value).
Regarding lease end values, the banks are getting really good at estimating what the value will be. Occasionally, we'll find folks here who have equity in their lease, but it is not all that common.
A lot of it has to do with the number of miles you drive and how well you take care of the vehicle.
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https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/39745/hyundai/santa-fe-sport/2017-hyundai-santa-fe-lease-questions
Edit: Now that I looked at the full URL of each forum, it appears that one is for the Santa Fe Sport and the other one is for the non-sport. If you intend on keeping them separate then you should probably rename the one for the Santa Fe Sport to say "2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport Lease Questions" because it wasn't clear when I was looking at the list of Hyundai forums.
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2017 Hyundai Santa Fe limited Ultimate with tech package. 36 months / 15,000 miles
What are the most recent money factor and residual Value for Westchester, NY?