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Land Rover LR3



  • lr3maybelr3maybe Posts: 134
    Please let us know what trails you do in Ouray. I'll be there in a few weeks. Last year I rented a jeep for a day because I didn't want to trust my tires on my ML on the rocky trails. Some trails are one way (Ouray to Telluride). Ophir Pass is not very difficult at all - I don't recall if a 2WD could make it.
  • lr3maybelr3maybe Posts: 134
    I can confirm that all 5 wheels have pressure sensors on my February 06 build date. The dashboard monitor can differentiate between the 4 road wheels and the spare - if you have a low tire it will say check tyres or check spare or something to that effect. I believe the pressure psi that the tire has to be low before the warning is based upon the position on the LR - the fronts are different from the back - so the warning is partly based on the pickup sensor in each wheelwell.
  • The pressure warning system light has been lit from Day 1 in my LR3 HSE. The dealer is ordering new sensors to try to get the light to turn off. This has been the only issue with my vehicle.
  • lr3maybelr3maybe Posts: 134
    Mine seems to work great - I had a low tire, the light came on and the dash said to check the tyres. I filled the low one, the light went off immediately. The air leaked out and the light came on 2 more times. I installed the spare and the light went out. When the spare well was empty while the tire was left at the tire store, there was no light or warning. Then, I got the spare back and the light came on and warning said to check the spare - it was 36 psi and I pumped it to 42 and the light went out immediately. On the rear tires, 36 psi won't light the light, about 33 I think will. On the front tires, it needs to be 30 or so before the light comes on. I need to test it to be sure. You don't even need to drive it, just starting it will bring up the warning, and if you pump it up, the warning goes away on startup.
  • lr3maybelr3maybe Posts: 134
    I tried out my extended height mode.
    I raised the LR to off road height via the console switch, then lifted a corner with a jack enough to take the weight off the suspension. The suspension hissed. I lowered the jack. The truck raised and the dashboard said it was in extended mode. This simulates bottoming out the chassis.

    Supposedly, if you then hold your foot on the brake and hold the console switch in the raise position for 40 seconds you'll get a 'bong' then it should go up another 35mm, but I didn't do that yet.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    Yeah the extended height mode is very cool too bad that it lowers automaticly if you go over like 8 mph. I can't wait till someone figures out to hack into the suspension control module.

    Previous Generation Range Rovers, P38's are their internal designation, have this device called a Rovercom that allows the driver to raise the air suspension beyond the normal maximum for off road height.

    Eventually someone will develop a similar gadget for the LR3, RRS and Mark II Range Rover.
  • lr3for4x5lr3for4x5 Posts: 1

    I was searching for a reasonable phone to use with the PTI Nokia cradle, but didn't want to spend $300 from the dealer. I use a RAZR w/Bluetooth, but for long drives, I wanted a phone in the cradle, etc.

    I can now confirm that the Nokia 3100 w/firmware 3.03 works in the '06 LR3 with PTI and the current Nokia cradle. These are the phones you see on eBay for about $35-40 unlocked. :shades:

    According to the LR website, you need a 3100 with firmware 4.x, well AT&T and Cingular only had 3100s with 3.03, RH-50. These are what are on eBay.

    I have tried two different units of these phones (borrowed from friends) and they seem to work fine. I have a third phone that I bought off eBay (~$35 unlocked) and am going to do extensive testing this evening to finalize.

    I hope this helps anybody who was looking for an inexpensive phone (or non-bluetooth phone) to put in the cradle.


  • koeslerkoesler Posts: 57
    Hello "lr3maybe". I look forward to this Ouray trip next week. I've done pretty much every trail in the area over the last 15 years and I've always used normal tire pressure and have had only had one flat. My vehicles have been Toy 4Runners and Series II Discoveries. This will be my second LR3 trip to CO. I plan to do Ophir Pass, Black Bear-Tomboy-Imogene & Yankey Boy, and that'll be it for this time.

    On my last trip I did basically dirt trails except for a 5 mile rock section and some deviant ditches - the LR3, even though I was nervous, just did everything so uneventfully it was not even funny. I'll report again when I get back...
  • invest100invest100 Posts: 6
    Purchased a 2006 LR3 V8 last month and the vehicle could not even make it the 4 miles to my house without failing. Stalled out less than a mile before I got home. THe dealer had to tow the LR3 backed to the dealership and they canceled the contract. They said it was a defective transmission. Purchased a 2006 Acura MDX instead.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Report your gas mileage here: Land Rover LR3: MPG - Real World Numbers

    tidester, host
  • ssp1ssp1 Posts: 115
    Interesting story. Friend of mine purchased an acura MDX last week and it didnt get the 12 miles home to his house before the computer failed. Perhaps you guys shouldve switched! (He went to look at the LR3 the next day but ended up with an ugly toyota )
  • koeslerkoesler Posts: 57
    I've had my LR3 HSE for 15 months and 15000 miles and have yet to experience even one glitch...I think 95% of the problems owners are experiencing is due to impatience - get in and turn that key - don't give the computers time to "boot" so they produce errors. I always turn my key to position "2" and wait about 15 seconds for the system to normalize and do the status check, then start. No problem - ever (except for a light squeek in the steering wheel "spiral cassette").

    This is still the best and greatest veicle ever (out of about 34 I've owned including 9 Mercedes). I've had way more problems from my Toyota's, BMW's, Benzes, Fords, Chevy's, Isuzu's, Mazda's, Honda's, and so on. My 2000 LR Discovery II was just as great.

    I have nothing but praise for LR thus far - vehicles and the dealership experience both - fantastic !!
  • lr3maybelr3maybe Posts: 134
    There is a system now, I found it on the internet in Germany or Europe somewhere. I don't have the info with me now. It lets you control the electronics. But it was almost $2000 and I'd also be worried that if we had a warranty problem we'd be out of luck. I think I'll wait for a simpler solution.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    Really that is good to know. And it works on modern Rovers hmhh but 2,000 is way too much. Better to wait till some of the bugs are worked out of it and the price drops.
  • lr3maybelr3maybe Posts: 134
    I drove Ophir years ago with my 4 Runner, from East to West. If I recall, there was only a bit of tougher stuff at the very beginning, then the only worry was that there was no place to pull over for oncoming traffic. Luckily, none came. You could see a long way though. I'd love to hear about the Black Bear/Tomboy/Imogene/Yankey Boy though. Especially, would like to know if any of them caused you to bottom out or scrape the sides in the trees. I tried the trail that goes east just south of Ouray, Engineer Pass, I think, but turned around after a mile or two, with a Jeep last year. It wasn't too tough, but it was so rough it wasn't enjoyable. I didn't feel like crawling for miles. Does that one smooth out after a while?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I always turn my key to position "2" and wait about 15 seconds for the system to normalize and do the status check, then start.

    Same procedure I use when starting my AMG diesel. It's no problem of course, but friends who own gas vehicles sometimes razz me for not being able to start instantly from cold. I'll have to mention that for 'high quality, high tech' vehicles, the procedure is the same. ;)
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    Yup even on LR3s that sit on the lot for a while if you try and start them right away you will normaly get some error codes.

    Better to let the computer do its selfcheck then start it up.
  • tdo123tdo123 Posts: 102
    Does anyone know if the 2007 will have a back-up camera for reversing?
  • roverinscroverinsc Posts: 2
    I called my dealer at 13,000 miles with the uneven tire wear issue. They said it needed alignment. Funny, this is supposed to be a tough off road vehicle but it cannot enev take the pounding of the highway or rural roads!! I have only slighlty taken the thing off the pavement! Called LR Customer Support- explained to them I would not be owning my LR3 much longer if I was to be purchasing new tires every 20-25,000 miles and I would be their worst nightmare if anyone was even thinking about buying one. Dealer bought one tire for future change and covered the alignment (I think) that's what LR Customer Care told me anyway. Too bad- its very embarrassing paying this much for a vehicle and getting major problems such as this.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I agree that uneven tire wear at 13K is unacceptable, however a tire life 20-25K with even wear isn't unusual on a specialist vehicle these days.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    No, 20,000 miles or a little more isn't really all that bad for something that weighs almost three tons.

    Lets turn the clock back about three years. You just spent around 80 grand including tax for an Oxford edition Range Rover with all the bells and whistles of the time.

    In less then 20,000 miles your Goodyear tires will be so cupped that truck will sound like a freight train.

    No lets go back a little over 14 years now.

    You just spent a little around 70 grand including tax for the Japanese Ferrari the Acura NSX.

    Your rear tires will be completly shot in less then 5,000 miles and acura is very, very aware of it. I remember reading somewhere that they eventually settled a lawsuit for all owners who bought prior to 1994 or so.

    This is the only decent link I could find on that.

    The moral of the story is that how much you spend on a vehicle has nothing to do with any problems you may have.

    In fact the more expensive a vehicle is the more likely something at the edge of the technology envelope will break.

    Most BMWs with their high performance runflats will be lucky to get 30,000 miles on the tires. My MINI needed new tires all around at 28,000 miles and that was with rotating them every 5,000 to 7,500 miles.
  • ssp1ssp1 Posts: 115
    So British Rover is the bottom line that 20-25K is the best we can expect? why then did my Michelins on the 2001 Disco I still have last well over 40,000? (i had the manuf suggested michelin tires and bought another pair at 86K)
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    I don't know what is going on with tires right now. I have seen some LR3s make it over 30,000 miles with rotations at about 15,000 miles but I think the average is much lower.

    I don't know what Land Rover is thinking with goodyears. Everytime they have used goodyears they have had problems with them. Mark III range Rovers tear the goodyear tires apart in 20,000 miles or less but you put a set of Michelien Synchrones on and you have no problems.

    Discos cup goodyears up as well but not as quickly as the Range Rovers do. Maybe they were giving Goodyear one more shot with the LR3 or something but I bet you will find that Land Rover will switch over to Michelins for the LR3 in the near future.
  • wolbdwolbd Posts: 2
    ok third set of wiper blades in 5 months only 6500 miles on
    the 05 lr3 hse.the dealer told me that it is a issue but will only change them till 12,000 miles then its 49.99 each.. how can land rover not be able to correct the edge of the wiper blade from coming apart from the body of the arm.... anyone else out there with the wiper problem.
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 2,006
    invest100... Any car/truck from any brand can get a defective part. I have had my 2006 LR3 HSE for 7 months and 4,700 miles and no problems. Tires seem to be wearing evenly.

    I'm sure you will be happy in your new Acura as they are nice soccer-Mom vehicles. :P Going from a true off-road vehicle to a average off-road vehicle is an interesting move. :surprise:

    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • ssp1ssp1 Posts: 115
    If you review comments on message boards - as you state Mark 156 - you'll see alot of people angry about problems with all types of vehicles. Some of the most interesting "left me stranded" stories come from cars/suvs that were Consumer Reports best picks.

    The bottom line is you have to like the vehicle. My LR3 is great so far and my '01 Discovery has it share of problems. But they are tops off road for a stock vehicle and i think they look so much better than alot of the other choices.
  • roverguy76roverguy76 Posts: 13
    So, as some of you know, I having been Roving for about 10 years down the lonely path we call life with a Disco I (Great truck!), a Disco II (mine was a lemon...but at least it looked good), and now a 2005 LR3 HSE. Took delivery last September. Alveston Red...since discontinued...with black interior; this combo is rare to say the least.

    Anyway, I installed a Land Rover Raised Air Intake in May. That thing works great and looks great. Now, the truck is at the dealership and is receiving an expedition roof rack. Hope this looks good. Will let you all know.

    Never had any problems with this truck, its amazing. It has a build date of 03/2005. I guess the quirks were worked out with the earlier builds.

  • mark156mark156 Posts: 2,006
    My brother has a 2003 Land Rover Discovery II, dark grey with tan leather that he bought with 20,000 miles. He now has just over 50,000 miles and has had not one bit of trouble with it. He loves the truck!

    If I continue to have good luck with my 2006 LR3 HSE, I will buy another one. I just received a brochure on the new Land Rover LR2. It think Land Rover will have a winner on their hands!

    Mark :D
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • roverinscroverinsc Posts: 2
    I should have explained myself a little better. I am fully aware that all new cars put the cheap tires on that last only 20-30,000 miles. My problem is that the tires are wearing from the inside/out about 2 inches. Only the rears. When looking at the vehicle from the rear in the mid-height mode the wheels are visibly bowed in. This tire wear is not normal even for cheap tires and the weight of the vehicle. I guess what I am saying is that although I love my LR3, if I have to replace my tires every 15-20,000 miles I will have my FOR SALE ad ran in the newspaper!
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