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Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous



  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    It's somewhat surprises me the 4WD Pilot doesn't have the tires that came on my 2006 Ridgeline. A Ridgeline is a 4WD Pilot with a bed. It has Michelin XLT (or something like that). They are no longer made, but there is a XLT MS or something which seems to be somewhat the same tire. These have been the best tire of any I have owned. The Ridgeline has 53,000 miles on them and they could easily go another 10,000. They are quiet (not as quiet with this much mileage now) and have great traction in snow. 8 inches on flat ground and the truck just goes thru it. They are expensive, about $190 per tire. I need to decide what to do with the truck, but if I decide to keep it, this tire is what is going back on it.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,322
    Not sure about those 1st generation (pre 2009) Pilots, but '09 - '11 LX, EX, EXL, EXL w/ Nav, EXL w/ RES all have these good year FORTERA HT tires. My biggest problem with them is how quickly they wore out. At 31K miles after 18 months with regular rotAtions, I couldn't afford to buy them again. I have this thing where I notice every little detail about cars, like the fact that the Pilot Touring came with Michelins instead of Good Years. I read the reviews on TR & bought them at my local tire shop. The ride is so much quieter & much smoother.

    I am pretty impressed with our Pilot's 4WD capabilities. In 18" of hard, packed snow, I shoveled a small path (because I couldn't see my BMW), backed out of the garage, shifted into 2nd gear, locked the VTM-4 differential, & literally drove like there was nothing on the driveway but blacktop.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • breldbreld Posts: 3,275
    Mmmm...I do have the itch again already.

    BUT, I'm really trying to wait until next year. Maybe if we need another punch toward the end of year I can push that up. : )

    2017 Durango R/T - 2017 Civic Type R - 2016 MB GLC300 - 2012 Mini Hardtop - 2016 Jetta (daughter's)

  • breldbreld Posts: 3,275
    38.7 MPG on the new Accord??!??

    That is very compelling for what I'm looking for, particularly for the lower priced models (I like the Sport personally). The only, somewhat shallow, catch is that I'd like a non-sedan body style to vary the lineup.

    I'll be curious to see real world mileage results on the new Mazda6 - Mazda has been pretty true to their EPA ratings, so they should be good.

    That'd be a tough choice if I went that way - Accord Sport or Mazda6 Touring.

    2017 Durango R/T - 2017 Civic Type R - 2016 MB GLC300 - 2012 Mini Hardtop - 2016 Jetta (daughter's)

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 9,199
    Well, the first 50K miles are much more expensive than the second 50K miles on a car, at least depreciation wise.

    At least, this is what I tell my wife so she won't become a chronic car buyer.
    Toy '16 Audi TTS quattro AWD, Commuter '16 Kia Optima LX 1.6 Turbo FWD, Wife's '17 VW Golf All-Track SE 4-Motion AWD
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 9,199
    I did the timing belt between 80-85K. They lowered the recommended interval from 100K to 75K miles in the service manual for Audi's. Guess too many were causing major damage and havoc in the 95 to 100K range.

    Reliability wise it has been very good, not perfect, but very good, and that includes 2 weekend HPDE per year the last 3 years. I drive the heck out of it; as I expect all my cars to be able to handle being driven.

    Audi covered a failed AC at 53K miles (good of them to step up). They also reimbursed me for failed intake runner control modules to the tune of almost a $700 check (it was covered to 120K 7 years voluntarily by Audi).

    Besides those things which Audi handled, I've paid for:

    1) spark plugs and coil packs; normally a maintenance item, but I mention it because the coil packs were recalled during warranty, so probably only had 50K on them, the spark plugs only 30K. $125
    2) Recirculation valve $400 repair at about 65K miles.
    3) Diverter valve; never failed, but I preempted it with an upgrade $165 right after the other valve failed (known trouble spot, but Audi upgraded the replacement part pro-actively).
    4) My center armrest I live with the latch being broken. (repaired under warranty once too).
    5) the right rear window switch doesn't work, but driver's control of that window does; I live with it.
    6) The pump and/or tubing doesn't get washer fluid to the rear window (I live with it).

    And lastly, lots of tires and brakes, pads, and rotors, but that's the way I drive. You got to pay to play I've learned.
    Toy '16 Audi TTS quattro AWD, Commuter '16 Kia Optima LX 1.6 Turbo FWD, Wife's '17 VW Golf All-Track SE 4-Motion AWD
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,894
    Second commute, stop & go traffic and A/C on got 36.2mpg. Happy camper here.

    When I went to look at the Accord, I went thinking Sport. At the end of the day, it was missing a few things I appreciate, like a sunroof and smart key. The Sport only illuminates the driver power window switch, 4 speaker base stereo, no auto up/down passenger window, etc. It sounds minor but little stuff like that is what bugs me over time and makes me CCBA in the first place.

    For me, I've found that its better to spend a little more upfront for the a more featured car since it helps me keep cars longer. It has worked on my Acura, and I hope it works on this Accord. Plus I think the EXL, at its current $25-26k street price loaded, is a pretty strong value. And seat memory+wife=happiness.

    Regarding the 6 Touring, be sure to check the leatherette seats first. I sat in one on a warm day and found they were pretty clammy, and I'm not usually sensitive to that kind of thing. And they aren't heated, so expect the opposite problem in the winter. I honestly think they should have done cloth on the mid would have solved both issues.

    15.5 XC70 T6 / 16 Soul EV / 17 Toyota 86

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,579
    Thanks, the reason I asked is that I'm considering ponying up for VW's factory-backed extended warranty... That would ease the sting of paying for a lot of those repairs. It's a little less expensive if you purchase it before the vehicle has 10,000 miles. I need to read the exclusions again--I know I was disappointed to read that it doesn't cover CV boots.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,935
    edited August 2013
    "VW's factory-backed extended warranty"
    Please let me know what 'level' you choose -
    and how much you pay?
    - Ray
    Considering this for the GTI...
    2016 BMW 340i
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,322
    tifighter - I'm glad you are happy with the Accord. I've been seeing quite a few Accord Sports around lately and the price is very inviting to say the least. I dig all the superficial stuff that to me makes the Accord Sport look cool (dual exhaust, 18" wheels, rear lip spoiler).

    I like my sunroof, but could live without one. There is really nothing more disappointing then a crummy stock stereo though. I do like heated leather seats and the Honda lane watch technology seems fantastic.

    decisions, decisions...

    My next punch is most likely 12 months away.

    Maybe they'll come out with an EX Sport:)

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,724
    Extended warranties for CCBA members? Seems like a bad idea....


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  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,894
    I dig all the superficial stuff that to me makes the Accord Sport look cool (dual exhaust, 18" wheels, rear lip spoiler).

    I agree. I'm thinking about adding a set of Sport wheels...

    15.5 XC70 T6 / 16 Soul EV / 17 Toyota 86

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,322
    The wheels are one thing, then there's the lip spoiler, the dual exhausts, the 18" tires that go with the Sport Wheels, & is the rear bumper different to accommodate the dual exhausts?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,935
    I hear you - and for me, it depends partly on how it
    is structured. I have had 2 extended wty plans
    in the recent past and each refunded a prorated
    amount, based on the unused portion.
    - Ray
    We shall see.....
    2016 BMW 340i
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,579
    edited August 2013
    That's one of my thoughts. On the other hand, VW's warranty will give you a prorated refund if you decide to cancel it/sell the car, so it's not like you've flushed thousands of dollars down the drain if the CCBA instinct kicks in. And, not paying for every little thing that breaks provides one less excuse to get rid of the car. :P
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602
    What is the retail price for a 7/70k bumper to bumper zero deductible? My Prius was $651 --- dealer initially asked 2700.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,579
    I have no idea what the retail price is. There is a dealer on the TDI forums that sells them for a little over cost. On a Jetta TDI, it would be $1900 for 7 years/100k or $1413 for 7 years/70k (both with $100 per visit deductible), if you purchase it with less than 10,000 miles on the odometer. I don't have pricing for the GLI yet.

    I'm not shocked at all by the low cost on the Prius warranty. Toyota/Honda both seem to offer extended warranties that are very inexpensive compared to the European brands... I'm guessing VW's prices are higher because you're much more likely to use the warranty.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602
    Pretty steep price --- almost 2K in repairs before you break even. The power train is covered for 5/50 --- If it gives you peace of mind, It may be worth it. I've had lots of extended warranties on some pretty unreliable vehicles (88 Chevy Astro) and never needed one repair on any of them. If you want a reliable car , just get the warranty. That's been my experience.
  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    Thanks, Corvette!

    (I assume you updated the shared doc)

    As of 8/15/13:

    2013 Punch List (total 16):
    01/08/13 breld 2011 BMW 335xi 27K
    01/11/13 steine13 2013 Chevrolet Cruze LT (lease)
    01/15/13 breld 2010 BMW 328xi wagon 21K
    01/18/13 qbrozen 2013 Nissan Leaf (lease)
    01/19/13 anon 2013 Toyota Sienna (lease)
    02/13/13 corvette 2013 VW Jetta GLI
    02/16/13 fezo 2004 Mazda6 wagon 77k
    02/17/13 fintail 2013 Mercedes E350 Bluetec (lease)
    03/22/13 js06gv 2013 Ford F150 King Ranch 2WD
    04/04/13 kyfdx 2011 BMW X3
    04/09/13 au1994 2013 BMW 335i (lease)
    05/01/13 abacomike 2014 MB E350 Sport
    05/27/13 breld 2013 Hyundai Veloster
    05/29/13 qbrozen 2013 Ford Mustang GT
    07/31/13 rayainsw 2013 VW GTI
    08/12/13 tifighter 2013 Honda Accord EX-L

    Punch guesses for 2013:
    Michaell 15-17
    Xwesx 22
    Stickguy 25
    abacomike 25
    Qbrozen 28
    Au1994 30
    Anon 31
    gimmestdtranny 33
    Tifighter 34
    Jpp5862 35
    Steve 36
    Roadburner 37
    Nyccarguy 38
    Rayainsw 39
    Ateixeira 40
    sandman 43
    Kyfdx 45

    I'm still in the running so long as only 1 more car is purchased between now and the end of the year.
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 9,199
    There is really nothing more disappointing then a crummy stock stereo though.


    Smart Key and moon/sun roof are worth about $0.01 to me. However, I agree, the lousy stereo is a turn off. HOwever, it should be easy to upgrade the sound system in the aftermarket, but only they didn't puposely make it so hard with such an integrated dash.
    Toy '16 Audi TTS quattro AWD, Commuter '16 Kia Optima LX 1.6 Turbo FWD, Wife's '17 VW Golf All-Track SE 4-Motion AWD
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,935
    edited August 2013
    'The power train is covered for 5/50'
    The VW GTI powertrain wty is 5 years \ 60,000 miles.
    - Ray
    More concerned about stuff like the A/C components, etc. past 36,000...
    [ edit ] and a lot of electronic 'thingys'
    2016 BMW 340i
  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    Tomorrow at 8:30 I take the CX-7 down to the local Discount Tire to have them install a set of Yokohama YK-580's.

    After much thought and research, I decided against the Ecopias and the Scorpion Verdes, as the silicone content of the tires (used to improve gas mileage) also make them less capable in bad weather. I asked the wife about it and her comment was "I'd rather be safe in the snow than save 6 cents on gas".

    A wise woman I married.

    Discount is quoting $969.05 with all taxes and fees, and there is a $60 gift card rebate available, so the net cost is closer to $900.

    I got just over 37K on the OEM Bridgestone Duelers, which is about 5K more than expected. It's been almost 2.5 years since we bought the car, so it's probably time.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,724
    In tires, I always vote for performance over longevity..


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  • steverstever Posts: 52,571
    edited August 2013
    I used to go for high tread wear and I was always disappointed. I go for "performance" now too (and since I wind up trashing so many tires, I wasn't coming out ahead buying high tread wear ones anyway).

    It's really nice being on the road and not getting anxious if we hit a rainstorm. Been enjoying the "premium" (for me, lol) wipers currently installed too.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,588
    edited August 2013
    Me, too. I'm content to eat up tires in order to gain the control I want.

    Ultimately, there is nothing holding you to the road but those 4 little patches where the rubber meets the asphalt.

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  • jpp5862jpp5862 DenverPosts: 1,081
    I'm in the exact same boat as you, except a shorter time frame. The lease on my G37x is up in January. While I'm happy with the car, given the intro of the Q50 and the continuation of the G37 as an entry model it makes no financial sense to buy out this car. My buyout (~$32k) is just below the entry price for the G going forward.

    The new Q50 is attractive but based on the delayed launch and the reported problems with the technology so far I'm not wowed. The new Lexus IS is very attractive and seems to get great reviews, but it gets pricey quickly with the IS350. The 250 is adequate, but when I can get more power out of a V6 Accord/Camry it loses appeal.

    Lots to figure out in the next 5 months....
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,579
    I agree. I also replace them well before they reach 2/32" of tread. Most tires begin to feel dodgy in the rain by the time they hit 4/32".

    (The OE tires on my Pontiac G6 felt dodgy in the rain even when they were new. I'm glad I didn't have that car long enough to experience them when they began to wear!)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,588
    I need sure-footedness in the MINI Cooper. Being such a buckboard, with stiff suspension, on rougher roads it doesn't always go where you point it, so being able to put it back on track quickly is quite important to me.

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  • ronsteveronsteve Posts: 437
    100K is a very good time to pull the rip cord on an Audi IMO. As you know, major repairs on this car are expensive and after 100K, it is not unreasonable that major components could fail.

    I plan to "save" my aging MINI by buying an inexpensive pickup truck. I bet I could pay for a good chunk of the truck itself in a couple years by not having to do major work on the MINI.

    We're in the same boat here, as my Volvo just turned 120K, and the wife's Elantra is approaching 100K. These days the Volvo is getting about 18K/year while the Elantra is driven about 7K a year. If we replace her car sooner than later, that becomes the primary road trip vehicle and takes some of the mileage from the Volvo (think closer to 12-13K a year on each car).

    The CCB itch has been there, just getting that much closer to being able to justify having a car payment and pulling the trigger. Of course, I just did the 120K on the Volvo, to the tune of $1300 (almost $500 of that because the coil packs were cracking) and the PS pump might be starting to leak, and that will be $650 when it goes. Almost makes me wonder if we're trading the right car, but if we did that the replacement would be an SUV and I'd be driving the Hyundai during the week.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,920
    I'm still in the running so long as only 1 more car is purchased between now and the end of the year.

    Bwahahahahahahahhahahahah! Best laugh of the day! What's more, Jolie's Explorer isn't on the list. :P
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
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