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I mentioned this in the RWTIV thread, but we believe with those incentives, we can use one of these as our third car and suffer very little, and perhaps no, depreciation.
In most cases, simply keeping the car you have is usually the cheaper option, but I actually think we'll experience more depreciation on the i3 than owning one of these other PHEVs over the next, say, year or so.
Then, there will be more fun electric options and we may just do the same thing again!
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2024 Corvette - 2024 BMW X5 - 2023 Tesla Model Y
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
What trim level is that?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
But the value proposition between the 2017 and 2018 was only one part of the hesitation - I still want to check the Clarity out further.
And yes, I’d say the Prius makes the Type R look elegant!
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I was at the Honda dealer on Saturday with @breld and @jpp5862 and was checking out the Civic EX-T. Quite a lot of car for the $23k sticker.
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Very nice looking...
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I’m not sure if the Volt is on your radar (I know the Bolt is), but I saw a very nice lease advertised on the Chevy Website this AM:
2018 Chevy Volt $34,095 MSRP
$299 per month for 36 months
15,000 miles per year
$0 Down, $0 Security, $0 First Payment ($0 Due at signing)
Includes $500 conquest cash for current lease of 2008 or newer Non-GM Vehicle.
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j/k Congrats!
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
It was kind of unexpected because for the last several months I've been trying to convince my wife to get an Accord hybrid, but finally she told me just the day before yesterday that what she really wanted was a CR-V. She does gardening and lumber projects, etc, and so really does use the utility of a station wagon/suv. She hates to set foot in a dealer's lot and so I was just going in to do a test drive. It was a rainy day at the smallest Honda dealership in our area, and so it wasn't crowded at all, and understandably they wanted to make a sale. They started by giving a thousand more in trade for my wife's 2013 Accord EXL (which has some dings and wear and tear) than the other dealer (13k), but then we hit some roadblocks when I found out Honda only offers financing on the base LX model. Also they didn't have the model we really wanted, which was EX 2WD. So far we've never done more than a dirt road in dry conditions, and it only rarely snows in Louisville more than a couple of inches, making AWD seem like overkill for us—and so we at first wanted to do without the $1400 extra cost for AWD. But since they didn't have it an EX 2WD on the lot and it would be a trade from c.200 miles away to get one, they gave us something of a discount on the AWD.
As @stickguy says the EX is very nicely set up—heated seats, blind spot info system/cross traffic alert, AndroidAuto/CarPlay, HondaSensing, etc., etc. Those alloy wheels are a weird design imho, but....wow, the tires are really big 18" x 230 or something. Love the car so far. Lots of good touches in the design—rear vents and 2 rear power outlets, slightly reclining rear seats (!), adjustable cargo, etc.
With our 13k trade we had c.15k to finance after TTL, and they found with capital one 3.95% for a 3 year loan with payments of c.452 a month, which means c.$960 interest for the life of the loan. Could be worse....?
All told it took c. 5 hours at the dealer. Was about the pull the plug a few times because of the financing and not having the EX 2WD, but my wife encouraged me to hang in there, and it turned into a really nice present for her.
Thanks for all the congrats. 0-60 is c. 7.2 seconds in the turbo CR-V from what I've read. I think my Accord goes 0-60 in about 7.6. We almost never accelerate like that, but merging onto the freeway I could tell the CR-V was a little faster. As someone said, at some point I might need an upgrade.....!
And that's all just a reflection of resale values, not necessarily the cars themselves. With my track record on turnaround time, and with this transaction in particular, I'm prioritizing resale value.
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So...they have a nice white one I like offered at $26,500 - the same $4k off that was offered on the Advance model.
Again, with my goal of replacing the i3 with something that's still efficient but offers more overall range, and to mitigate or eliminate the loss of value, I think this fits the bill very well. With the $9,500 in tax incentives, we're talking a Prius Prime with a net cost of about $17k - I actually doubt resale will drop below that for some time.
I've been chatting with @michaell and @jpp5862 about this - the Clarity does offer more EV range and more interior space, but it certainly comes at a higher cost (even with the increased tax incentive) and somewhat more uncertainty on resale. Maybe Honda has found a good niche in the EV/Hybrid market, but hard to say at this point.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
On the Volt lease, is that LT? That’s pretty basi. The Premier offers so much more.
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
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2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
CRV (prior gen)
Rav4
Jeep Cherokee (prior facelift)
CX-5(?)
I don't think the GM pickups or Tacomas are going to be within their budget. Any other suggestions?
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I’d post pictures of the Prius out of tradition, but 1) you already know what they look like and 2) none of you really want to see a large high-res picture of a Prius.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
"Featured Special Lease
Expires 07/05/18
2018 CR-V Continuously Variable Transmission AWD LX Featured Special Lease
$269
Per month for 36 months.
$2,199 total due at signing.
Includes down payment with no security deposit. Excludes taxes, title and either dealer fees or documentary service fee. For well-qualified lessees."
https://automobiles.honda.com/tools/current-offers?zipcode=40205
And with some negotiation you might be able to do better than that?
Do they need AWD? If not, they can save some there.
At my local VW Dealer they have some of the last generation Tiguan for c. $19k or so.
I agree.. that might slip in under their budget.
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2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2024 Corvette - 2024 BMW X5 - 2023 Tesla Model Y
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2024 Corvette - 2024 BMW X5 - 2023 Tesla Model Y
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Congrats! Is this you blocking the leftover lane of I95 in CT at 6:30 this AM?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD