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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,404
    qbrozen said:

    Believe me, I thought about leasing for him but he’d need the damage waiver and more than 20k/yr, so the cost effectiveness goes out the window. He buys cars for $3k-$6k and wrings 2-3 years out of them.

    Except when he doesn't! :D
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,404
    qbrozen said:


    I always said I’d have another Jeep someday. Of course, I was thinking CJ7, but I suppose this would qualify. But now I’ve been thinking... “wait a sec. why am I OK with cloth and no amenities in a Wrangler, yet have been turning my nose up at any H3 with cloth?”

    Yes, mods would be in store for any of these “trucks” I have been looking at. Was even reading up on what I could do with the XC60 (hint: not much).

    When you get as old as the H3, it is probably best to look at the best car for the mechanical equipment you want, and you can worry about appointments like leather aftermarket. It is not overly expensive to reupholster in leather if you really want to go that route.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,404
    Goal reached!


    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,867
    Alright. Got out to 1 dealership today. Drove a Charger, E550, JGC hemi, and a Hummer they had. Really really liked the Charger. The sound is just phenomenal. I didn't even mind the old 5-speed unit. And this particular one has really nice leather/suede seats that seem to be a very rare find. Was thinking I'd want a newer one, and I would prefer the '11+ style, but this one is super clean and cheap, so it is tempting me. Someone talk me out of it: https://www.bakerjeep.com/used/Dodge/2008-Dodge-Charger-Princeton-99a9c91c0a0e0a6b408c7ad5d4a47f23.htm

    That was first. Then drove the E550 right after it. I gotta say, I much preferred the Charger. The E had an overly harsh ride. It was downright nauseating. The JGC was nice enough, but I didn't like how it drove. Very bouncy. Again, nauseating. The Hummer had mechanical issues, so I drove it maybe a half mile before returning it to the dealership.

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    edited September 2019
    So the charger, is that the practical/utility car, or the sports car, of the two-fer?

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    Too big for my taste, but looks like a nice one. Loaded. If you like it, go for it!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,828
    I dunno, Q., it looks like it is is great condition, but for a car that is almost 12 model years old with 100K miles that seems like a lot of money.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • breldbreld Posts: 4,755
    Sounds to me like the powers above are steering you away from a Hummer.

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2014 BMW 228i

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    I wouldn’t kick this one out of bed for eating crackers. Lots of depreciation for a 2019. Close to 40% off MSRP. got just about everything but HK audio. They got similar white one with that but no BLIS or M sport.

    https://www.eimports4less.com/details-2019-bmw-4_series-certified_430i_xdrive_gc_m_sport_awd_navigation_hud_camera_blis-used-wba4j3c50kbl06255.html

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    If every unit of a particular model I looked at either was rotted underneath, or not running well enough to test drive, I wold take it as a hint to move on!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,063
    Nice color combo on that 430. But having had the non-HK audio, you'd probably want that. The HK audio isn't great, but it is leaps and bounds above the standard which is really sub-par.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    This one is prettier colors. A few less miles, a little less money. But trades KK for BLIS. Not a trade I prefer to make. No clue why an executive car just didn’t have the driver assist package too. It’s standard even on a $20k Hyundai Elantra!

    https://www.eimports4less.com/details-2019-bmw-4_series-certified_430i_xdrive_gran_coupe_sport_awd_hud_led_hk_nav_cam-used-wba4j3c52kbl07973.html

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,063
    Also sacrifices M-Sport.

    Just watched another video about the GLI where the reviewers pointed out no less than 3 rattles in their relatively low mile press car.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    I don't think I would miss the M sport. Isn't that mostly trim items anyway?

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    I guess it includes a sportier suspension set up. Would have to drive both ways to see if it makes enough of a difference to care about. We would be more about comfort than tracking!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,867
    ab348 said:

    I dunno, Q., it looks like it is is great condition, but for a car that is almost 12 model years old with 100K miles that seems like a lot of money.

    well, its worth what its worth. Their price is definitely "cheeky." My offer, if I make an offer, would be $9k OTD. I'm perusing still, though. Would like to find one in a better color, and possibly even with the 2011 facelift. OR a similar Challenger. At the same time, for $9k, I have plenty of room for mods. :)

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • breldbreld Posts: 4,755
    stickguy said:

    I don't think I would miss the M sport. Isn't that mostly trim items anyway?

    I do believe for an AWD model, the M-sport does indeed amount to cosmetics (body kit, wheels, steering wheel).

    But I will say, that M-sport steering wheel feels great!

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2014 BMW 228i

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    not like the old E46 days, where you had to get the sport package for the 3 spoke wheel!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,404
    qbrozen said:

    Someone talk me out of it

    The only thing I can say is that the automatic would be a strong case for continuing to look. Otherwise, seems like a lot of car.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,645
    I reached out to the SM at my parent's Ford dealer since their sales person is either out of the office or just not responding. Simple request, 24/12 lease on an F-150. Received a reply within 5 minutes that just said the dealer has an Internet department for this very purpose, please send the request through them, and asked why I would go to him for a price quote. OK then...
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,063
    pensfan83 said:

    I reached out to the SM at my parent's Ford dealer since their sales person is either out of the office or just not responding. Simple request, 24/12 lease on an F-150. Received a reply within 5 minutes that just said the dealer has an Internet department for this very purpose, please send the request through them, and asked why I would go to him for a price quote. OK then...

    How about that customer service for you...sheesh
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,607

    Nice color combo on that 430. But having had the non-HK audio, you'd probably want that. The HK audio isn't great, but it is leaps and bounds above the standard which is really sub-par.

    Yep. H-K, M Sport, CWP, amd RWD are baseline minimums for any F3X I'd consider.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,645

    pensfan83 said:

    I reached out to the SM at my parent's Ford dealer since their sales person is either out of the office or just not responding. Simple request, 24/12 lease on an F-150. Received a reply within 5 minutes that just said the dealer has an Internet department for this very purpose, please send the request through them, and asked why I would go to him for a price quote. OK then...

    How about that customer service for you...sheesh
    Same dealer who refused to offer any goodwill toward my mom's infotainment repair until my dad went above the service manager. Ever since the original owners were bought out by a larger dealer group about 12 years ago things have gone downhill. My parents have been unfailingly loyal to this store since the 80's but the past few years that loyalty has been tested and I think this might be what pushes them to a new store if not to a new brand altogether.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,242
    Ford dealers are all over the place, they should be able to find one somewhere nearby that will treat them well. That being said, I live in a city with two Ford plants, and the only good service experiences I've had are with the dealer in the sketchy part of town. The one in the gentrified part of town totally blew it--and didn't care at all when I dinged them on the survey.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,867

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    Nice color. Looks clean and carfax supports that. And only 3,000 miles away!

    A guy in my neighborhood has a yellow Daytona like that. Sharp.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,617
    Good friends of ours just love bright colors like that.

    His - New style Charger in Plum
    Hers - New style Wrangler UL in lime green

    I'm not usually a fan of those types of colors, but the orange works on the Charger.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,063
    That's the color I was looking at for the i3. Figure if you're going to go quirky, you might as well go big!
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,242
    I like the orange and the stripes, and I normally hate decals. Not having radio controls on the steering wheel would drive me nuts. I’m actually thinking of getting a Bluetooth remote that clips on the steering wheel of the Tahoe so I can skip ads on podcasts I’m playing via the aux cable. It has audio controls on the wheel, just no smartphone integration.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,867
    corvette said:

    Not having radio controls on the steering wheel would drive me nuts.

    Now why did you have to go point that out? lol.

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,063
    Can't un-see that now.

    My bigger issue is one sided steering wheel controls. Either have them on both sides or not at all.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,867

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • breldbreld Posts: 4,755
    This Dodge/Hemi talk makes me nostalgic for my Durango. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have just stuck with that...lot of fun and enjoyment for the money.

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2014 BMW 228i

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,242
    Some Jeeps and possibly other CJDR products had the controls on the back side of the steering wheel, but I don’t think the Challenger and 300 were one of them.
  • breldbreld Posts: 4,755
    This is a bit flashy, but a rare color and the Hemi to back it up.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/785652773/overview/?isShippableInsideSearchRadius

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2014 BMW 228i

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    I like that G wagon. A lot.

    I thought though one reason for dumping the Stelvio was not easily getting texts while driving? Aren’t these older designs all going to be useless for that?

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,242
    @breld how did I know that you’d be browsing after saying you should’ve kept the Durango?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    Say goodbye to the A5!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,242
    stickguy said:

    I thought though one reason for dumping the Stelvio was not easily getting texts while driving? Aren’t these older designs all going to be useless for that?

    Don’t try to woo us with logic here! That said, bad or inconsistently functioning infotainment is worse than no infotainment at all.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,867
    corvette said:

    stickguy said:

    I thought though one reason for dumping the Stelvio was not easily getting texts while driving? Aren’t these older designs all going to be useless for that?

    Don’t try to woo us with logic here! That said, bad or inconsistently functioning infotainment is worse than no infotainment at all.
    LOL. Yes, believe me, Stick, that occurred to me. However, what also occurs to me is that swapping out the infotainment for an aftermarket unit in an older vehicle you own outright is far far less frowned upon than doing so in a new leased vehicle. :p

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,607
    corvette said:

    Ford dealers are all over the place, they should be able to find one somewhere nearby that will treat them well. That being said, I live in a city with two Ford plants, and the only good service experiences I've had are with the dealer in the sketchy part of town. The one in the gentrified part of town totally blew it--and didn't care at all when I dinged them on the survey.

    Let me guess; Oxmorons?

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,867

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,242

    corvette said:

    Ford dealers are all over the place, they should be able to find one somewhere nearby that will treat them well. That being said, I live in a city with two Ford plants, and the only good service experiences I've had are with the dealer in the sketchy part of town. The one in the gentrified part of town totally blew it--and didn't care at all when I dinged them on the survey.

    Let me guess; Oxmorons?
    Yes. Service advisor was out sick and they effectively told me that there was nobody else in the building who could tell me whether my Mustang was ready to be picked up or even where it was. Imbeciles.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,607
    There’s a B5 Blue 2016 Charger Scat Pack for sale about two minutes from where I work. Really cool looking with black wheels and red Brembo calipers.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 13,741
    One of the benefits of my wife's job was that it was less than 3 miles from our house. She had her 1st interview today at a hospital about 30 miles north of us. Let's see how things shake out, but we put close to 18,000 miles per year on her Pilot when her job was close. We might have to do something with the current fleet.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,867

    There’s a B5 Blue 2016 Charger Scat Pack for sale about two minutes from where I work. Really cool looking with black wheels and red Brembo calipers.

    So discussion with my little one yesterday went something like this (obviously, I am summarizing what was probably an hour of back and forth):

    me: so what do you think? (showing him pic of white charger I drove)
    him: That's a garbage car! It belongs in the garbage! Ew!
    me: well we can make it look better.
    him: no.
    me: is this more to your liking? (showing him pic of black SRT8 with all the doodads)
    him: now THAT'S the opposite of a garbage car! Get that one!
    ... after explaining to him that these cars are exactly the same and its just cosmetics, we get into color discussion...
    me: I would choose purple first, then orange, then B5 blue, then red, THEN black.
    him: Purple??! Why would anyone want a purple car?!
    me: It is a classic famous color, called Plum Crazy. Its limited edition and rare and very very cool. Then there is the orange, also rare, and with the black graphics is very cool ... do you remember Snot Rod from Cars? Like that.
    him: What's B5 Blue?
    me: very similar to the Coronet.
    him: Then you need that one. B5 Blue. Get it.

    I then pondered the quirkiness of having a '67 Coronet R/T AND maybe an '07 Charger R/T, both in "b5 blue." Alas, they didn't offer it in '07, nor in '12 (45 yrs apart), but they did offer a couple of somewhat similar blues in 2012.

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulPosts: 724
    xwesx said:

    ronsteve said:


    I drove 2 hrs from Wilmington to Raleigh to get my Accord back in '02. Local dealer had bump stickers and gave me a generally slimy feel but no test drive. When I was ready to buy I sent some emails, to which two dealers in Raleigh responded with solid numbers and Wilmington said "come see us."

    Doesn't surprise me one bit. My brother bought a car in Wilmington, and I had to deal with the guy at the dealership. Slimy indeed.

    Did you have the GM's worrrrrrd on it? ;)
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,617
    I’m sure the Charger has steering wheel audio controls. Chrysler is weird... they are behind the spokes of the wheel

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,294
    Like the X3. But not color combo.

    Here’s one for RB

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-bmw-m6-57/

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 145,903
    qbrozen said:
    You really want the 2007-2010 with the upgraded 255 HP engine (that feels like 300 HP), instead of the 225 HP from that year.

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