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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,030
    The new guidelines recommend rear facing until the max weight or height (whichever comes first). Which at our current pace, means Sam will be rear facing until first grade...
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 145,283

    The new guidelines recommend rear facing until the max weight or height (whichever comes first). Which at our current pace, means Sam will be rear facing until first grade...

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,173
    I thought even old 4 runners went for more money. At least should be reliable. And can actually off road! Do they really have that much cargo room?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,831
    tifighter said:

    Did someone say mean-looking SUV (lol)?


    Its only angry because there ain't a power line in sight!

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,791
    The 4Runners look good, especially the black one. Given their age though, they would need to be gone over with a fine-toothed comb, especially for rust. Same would be true for the Denali.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,227
    Yeah, I think one of the reasons my friend in MN dumped his V8 4Runner (of the same vintage) was because of rust.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,173
    It’s a Tacoma frame under there, so that makes sense.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,831
    maybe I'll take a peek at an Exploder. Would rather the 4.6, but the only one I have found so far has 20k more miles than this one for the same price.
    https://www.worldwideautonj.com/2009_Ford_Explorer_Hamilton_NJ_28443699.veh#

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  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 202
    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,030

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    What kind of car? I don't think there is any used car I'd buy at that price without an inspection.
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  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 202
    tifighter said:

    Did someone say mean-looking SUV (lol)?



    That's an interesting looking minivan.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,831

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    It depends. $56k could represent a wide range of vehicles, ages, and mileage. As y'all know, I've bought cars with no inspection. ;)

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,173
    Not a bad looking exploder. Good option to consider.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,561
    nyccarguy said:

    @nyccarguy and @tjc78 - How old were your kids when you turned them forward facing in their car seat?

    We followed the American Academy of Pediatrics recommendations. We turned our boys around at 1. We waited until our daughter was 2.
    My son was about 15-16 months when he went to front facing. My daughter was very tiny so she made it a bit longer but still before 2.

    My daughter now turns 4 in October and is in a booster (she is skinny but tall). My son is 6 in March and is riding with just a belt. Yes I know that is not Kosher but he is nearly 60 lbs and tall enough the belt is in proper position.

    IMO the car seat laws are a bit out of control. I remember riding in the front at 6 years old.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,173
    I probably rode home from the hospital in my mother’s lap.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,030
    It is a little crazy. My wife wanted to keep him to the max rear facing and I'm just not sure I understand why...
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,561

    It is a little crazy. My wife wanted to keep him to the max rear facing and I'm just not sure I understand why...

    It’s pretty uncomfortable for them as they get taller. My daughters legs were hitting the back of seat and scrunched.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,383
    edited September 2019
    tjc78 said:



    IMO the car seat laws are a bit out of control. I remember riding in the front at 6 years old.


    Agreed. It is all about moderating risk, so do what you're most comfortable doing in terms of timing of those things. IIRC, we had ours in rear facing for around first six months, then were front-facing in the two-piece "carrier" style car seat until they outgrew it, after which they were in the five-point front-facing seats to around four or five years old, then we removed the five-point harness and they used the vehicle's seat belt over the front of that seat.

    We didn't stop using the full seats until we went on our transcontinental trip in 2013, at which time our daughter was just shy of six (son was nine). Those seats were both too bulky to haul all across the continent, so we bought them each a butt-booster and never looked back. I think they were each around nine or ten when they stopped using those.
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,030
    Sam’s have been that way for probably 6 months. He doesn’t complain and it seems every study says it’s safer. But sheesh it’s inconvenient.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 13,729
    Guy I’m friendly with has a V8 4 Runner like the ‘04 you posted @qbrozen. Mechanically very sound, but the last time he brought it in the mechanic warned him that it’s starting to rust.

    I know it’s common in 4Runners & Tacoma’s of that vintage, but the brine they Pre treat the roads with can’t help matter either.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,273
    My kids were way too tall to have ever been in rear seats that long. They were born wearing 6 or 9 month sizes! So if it works for you, I’m sure it’s a good idea.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,831
    Rust seems to plague every 4x4 older than 10 yrs around here.

    I went to check out the v8 exploder. Bumpers were painted by a toddler. I didn’t bother digging further than that. Walked amongst the many indy car lots on that stretch of road. Only thing that really caught my attention was a 2010 Equinox. Sharp little trucklet. This one had 140k miles so I did not inquire. But it is something I’ll keep an eye out for.

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,173
    you obviously have way more knowledge than me in terms of inspecting cars, and dealing with potential problems.

    But, this is the issue I run into every time I try and come up with a cheap used car option. I start looking, and find out what the trash is like in the 7-10K price range, get frustrated, then just buy a new car.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,173
    saw a nice medium blue X3 today walking across a parking lot after dinner. so pointed out how nice looking a car it was. she agreed, but said it was too light a blue. Which it was, but otherwise nice.

    then she pointed at a car across the street and said she liked the color. a gen 1 Edge, in a red/brown/bronze color. I usually love those, but she is not always a fan.

    so, learned something today!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,236
    I know there's a car commercial forum on Edmunds, but I thought this was appropriate for here.

    1) It makes me want a new 2020 Audi RS6 Avant badly.
    2) It's an extremely well made 6 minute plus car commercial.
    3) It tugs on the heartstrings, particularly for newer father's out there.
    4) It speaks to your soul deep down for Audi enthusiasts out there.
    5) All wagon lovers in the world can appreciate the effort that went into this.
    6) The new RS6 is beautiful in my opinion, the way a wagon can be, aggressive, without being bold like a Toyota, but elegant and classy aggression the Audi designers do so well.
    7) It gives Americans 600 reasons to buy a wagon, and they all go "neigh neigh!"

    So well done! Bravo Audi.

    :smile:

    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,236

    Sam’s have been that way for probably 6 months. He doesn’t complain and it seems every study says it’s safer. But sheesh it’s inconvenient.

    The studies I found were very unconvincing and not really full-blooded studies in my opinion. I couldn't find the evidence I was hoping for to back up the conclusions and summaries.

    It seems for the horrible to average driver in the US (which is a VERY LOW bar), it makes sense. For better drivers, it might not make sense. The idea is you'll crash into something yourself, front first, rather than more likely to be rear-ended (good drivers are more often rear ended than doing the rear ending). The benefits of rear-facing seem to assume you'll ram something from the front. Obviously, the stresses on the neck are the opposite if you are hit from behind first.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 202
    edited September 2019

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    What kind of car? I don't think there is any used car I'd buy at that price without an inspection.
    qbrozen said:

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    It depends. $56k could represent a wide range of vehicles, ages, and mileage. As y'all know, I've bought cars with no inspection. ;)
    It's a 2015 MB GL63 AMG with 37k miles and one-owner. Cosmetically beautiful. It's like 200 days past a major service. VSC 4yrs, 40k miles is $7800!
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,831

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    What kind of car? I don't think there is any used car I'd buy at that price without an inspection.
    qbrozen said:

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    It depends. $56k could represent a wide range of vehicles, ages, and mileage. As y'all know, I've bought cars with no inspection. ;)
    It's a 2015 MB GL63 AMG with 37k miles and one-owner. Cosmetically beautiful. It's like 200 days past a major service. VSC 4yrs, 40k miles is $7800!
    Oh, a 5-yr-old ridiculously complicated luxo-barge? Oh sure! I mean, what could POSSIBLY require inspecting? Not a worry in the world on that one.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,030
    That definitely needs an inspection and possibly an exorcism.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX
  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 202
    qbrozen said:

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    What kind of car? I don't think there is any used car I'd buy at that price without an inspection.
    qbrozen said:

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    It depends. $56k could represent a wide range of vehicles, ages, and mileage. As y'all know, I've bought cars with no inspection. ;)
    It's a 2015 MB GL63 AMG with 37k miles and one-owner. Cosmetically beautiful. It's like 200 days past a major service. VSC 4yrs, 40k miles is $7800!
    Oh, a 5-yr-old ridiculously complicated luxo-barge? Oh sure! I mean, what could POSSIBLY require inspecting? Not a worry in the world on that one.

    That definitely needs an inspection and possibly an exorcism.

    I once purchased a pre-owned $20k Mercedes diesel without my own inspection that ended up needing over $30k worth of work (essentially a new engine, new suspension, and diesel particulate filter). I traded it in when I got the Q8. Lost so much money, but did win a small judgment against the dealership. Illinois law is now such that I could have returned the vehicle.
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,030
    I think you just made my point.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 137,549
    Not in the market, but hoping to convince @breld to go on a test drive with me tomorrow...

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,030
    Famous last words
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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 4,543
    Lincoln has yet another 30 second advertisement with Matthew McConaughey....
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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,580
    nyccarguy said:

    @nyccarguy and @tjc78 - How old were your kids when you turned them forward facing in their car seat?

    We followed the American Academy of Pediatrics recommendations. We turned our boys around at 1. We waited until our daughter was 2.
    The BMW car seat I had smuggled in was designed to be forward facing from 12-months up.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 11,794
    Had a 4 Runner years ago. I put 50K on it with no issues. Only did required maintenance and nothing failed. Sold it to a neighbor who was communing back and forth to Columbus every day (around 180 miles/day). He put another 100K miles on it. Only did a battery replacement, tires, brakes, required maintenance. Nothing really broke on it.

    He gave it to his son, who proceeded to put another 50K on it (while doing dubious maintenance, if any at all) before selling it. No issues at all.

    It was rusting, but at 200K miles, I’d say it was/is a great vehicle. You can’t kill them.

    Not sure about the current ones, but mine was a tank. Body on frame. An honest to goodness low range, which I used on the deepest snows and to yearly camping vacations to the Smokies.

    Slow, relatively thirsty by today’s standards. Still, comfortable and wouldn’t have hesitated to drive it cross country to off road in it.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,831

    Had a 4 Runner years ago. I put 50K on it with no issues. Only did required maintenance and nothing failed. Sold it to a neighbor who was communing back and forth to Columbus every day (around 180 miles/day). He put another 100K miles on it. Only did a battery replacement, tires, brakes, required maintenance. Nothing really broke on it.

    He gave it to his son, who proceeded to put another 50K on it (while doing dubious maintenance, if any at all) before selling it. No issues at all.

    It was rusting, but at 200K miles, I’d say it was/is a great vehicle. You can’t kill them.

    Not sure about the current ones, but mine was a tank. Body on frame. An honest to goodness low range, which I used on the deepest snows and to yearly camping vacations to the Smokies.

    Slow, relatively thirsty by today’s standards. Still, comfortable and wouldn’t have hesitated to drive it cross country to off road in it.

    I wouldn’t mind finding a preserved ‘80s 4runner with 22RE engine and 5-spd. I rather liked the one I drove through my college years.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,236
    edited September 2019

    qbrozen said:

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    What kind of car? I don't think there is any used car I'd buy at that price without an inspection.
    qbrozen said:

    If you could buy a $56k used car for clean trade-in value ($48k), but you had to do it without an inspection, would you do it?

    It depends. $56k could represent a wide range of vehicles, ages, and mileage. As y'all know, I've bought cars with no inspection. ;)
    It's a 2015 MB GL63 AMG with 37k miles and one-owner. Cosmetically beautiful. It's like 200 days past a major service. VSC 4yrs, 40k miles is $7800!
    Oh, a 5-yr-old ridiculously complicated luxo-barge? Oh sure! I mean, what could POSSIBLY require inspecting? Not a worry in the world on that one.

    That definitely needs an inspection and possibly an exorcism.

    I once purchased a pre-owned $20k Mercedes diesel without my own inspection that ended up needing over $30k worth of work (essentially a new engine, new suspension, and diesel particulate filter). I traded it in when I got the Q8. Lost so much money, but did win a small judgment against the dealership. Illinois law is now such that I could have returned the vehicle.
    Speaking of suspensions, my TTS is getting a new rear suspension assembly. I took it in for a seat heater button not lighting up correctly in the left side vent, and the tech said the TSB on the rear suspension mounts applied to my car (he heard noises that shouldn't be there), so they ordered that as well. Bring in my car a week later, and they call the next day to confirm the need a whole rear shock assembly (from Germany). They said to get comfortable with my old loaner, the '16 A7 TDI that's black on black that I'm borrowing, it could be up to 3 weeks.

    While I'm upset they tried to get away with just the mounts, I'm happy to get a fresh set of shocks for the rear. I was just thinking KW Variant 3 Coil-overs might be a nice upgrade. I asked about the fronts and they said they were fine. Apparently the rear threw a code (they are magnetically adjustable). Interestingly, the TSB included a suspension software update (who'd of known, but I guess I should have since they are adjustable electronically and magnetically), I believe it has ended my train of "don't ask don't tell" policy regarding my tune. They will cover this one, but the younger newer service adviser (I knew I should have stuck with my old veteran guy), said that Audi USA was getting terrible about paying warranty claims for tuned cars, and he'd likely have to pay for this through his own "account" or something like that. I mentioned how the shocks had nothing to do with the tune (though he just gave the tuners another idea to "tune" the suspension with software for the track). He said while he didn't agree with Audi USA, that's what they are doing now.

    Should have stuck with the adviser that turns a blind eye. Maybe my tech got mad for calling him out on changing fresh Motul 600 brake fluid for the normal dealership stuff, or maybe mentioning the odd brake fluid raised too many flags.
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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,791
    qbrozen said:

    Eh. I don’t think the design of the Ridgeline has aged well at all (if you were even one of the few who liked it before).
    https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/245545448

    I was in traffic today next to a 1st-gen Ridgeline. I will freely admit that I hated the styling when they first came out. But I guess time heals all wounds, even to the eye, and now that it is just a used car it isn't particularly offensive to me. Certainly not as bad in that way as several other Asian models, not to mention the Aztek. Looking at it objectively, it seems the perfect solution to the set of needs you posted. If you could find a decent one that isn't rusty within in your budget I think that is what I would go for. I would feel much more confident with a decade+ old Honda than some other makes. Were their transmission woes over by the time this one came along?

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,236
    benjaminh said:

    Lincoln has yet another 30 second advertisement with Matthew McConaughey....

    That would certainly be cheaper to play during the 2020 Superbowl then Audi's 6:40 second spot I linked above. I'd love to see a 6:30 second version at the Superbowl, but how many RS 6's would that cost?
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,791
    I saw one of these in traffic today. Was surprisingly cute and in looking up what it was, it is remarkably civilized inside. Seemed to keep up well with traffic though I wouldn't want to drive it on a windy day.

    image

    It's a Honda Vamos, made up until 2016. The one I saw looked almost brand-new and was in well cared-for condition, even had wind deflectors on the side windows. Maybe the ideal solution for @qbrozen if he can handle RHD... :laughing:

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  • Nice on all of the above
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,173
    happened to pass the local Jag dealer today. It used to also have the SAAB dealer in the same building, but since they went under, was just Jag. New to me, they now have the Land Rover store (formerly about 3-4 miles down the road, also in a stand alone store) in there too. Not sure what is going on with that building (renovating or selling something else out of it, or just selling it) but it was in a spot with lousy access.

    they are all I believe part of the group that owns the VW/Audi/Porsche stores (those are all together) and the MB palace just up the street.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownPosts: 1,141
    ab348 said:

    I saw one of these in traffic today. Was surprisingly cute and in looking up what it was, it is remarkably civilized inside. Seemed to keep up well with traffic though I wouldn't want to drive it on a windy day.

    image

    It's a Honda Vamos, made up until 2016. The one I saw looked almost brand-new and was in well cared-for condition, even had wind deflectors on the side windows. Maybe the ideal solution for @qbrozen if he can handle RHD... :laughing:

    To me, that’s great looking. I would definitely buy one of those were it offered in the US. Van-like space that fits in your garage. Never seen one before.
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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,173
    stopped to lot shop at Hyundia today. Oh, noticed a lot of new signage for Genesis on the building too (they have always been in there) which is surprising, since last fall I was talking to them and they were supposedly redoing the old CPJ location about a mile or 2 away (huge place that they were already using the service area from). Seemed to make a lot more sense to move Hyundai store up there since it is bigger. So who knows?

    plenty of Genisii around. And I saw a delivery happening on a Kona Electric (said electric in big letters on the back).

    they did have a couple nice Santa Fes parked out front. They are really growing on me. Nice styling in and out and well equipped. Need to get the wife out to drive one. They had a 2.0t in Lava Orange I loved. sent her a pick, but she wasn't convinced. But she liked the blue one next to it. Daughter thought they looked snappy too.

    so we shall see! Today is our anniversary but she got a dozen roses instead of a new car.

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