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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    They are nice. We did like the NX a lot, but it was just a bit small in the back.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • dad23dad23 ColoradoPosts: 501
    I'm currently driving a 2013 Pilot which I like, have had no issues with it, it's just being handed down to new drivers in the household. I've had trucks in the past so was originally thinking a new Tundra or F150 but then thought I'd never really use it as a truck and don't want to be lending it out either ;) I started looking at the Tahoe/Yukons for more room but figured we'd still have the Pilot if we ever needed to all go somewhere. So now I'm looking at the 4Runner, MDX/RDX, something along those lines. I've had back issues in the past so easier for me to get in and out of a bigger vehicle, otherwise the midlife crisis Corvette would be on the list! And I'm thinking lease as in another two years, it'll just be us, boys off to college (fingers crossed) and we may not need more than one vehicle. I'm thinking right around $500/mo or, again three off to college in a few years...

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    Consider a ridgeline I think. Other than that, the RDX is very nice, just a size class smaller. Fun to drive. Volvo XC60, can’t beat the Seats! x3 is nice. Maybe cheaper option, a Santa Fe 2.0t limited.

    And yes, I just named my current short list, minus the new outback XT!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 154,348
    edited October 2019
    I went through this exercise with @breld last weekend. I reviewed the options by manufacturer

    GM - Enclave, Acadia, Traverse, Yukon, Tahoe
    Ford - Explorer, Edge, Flex
    FCA - Grand Cherokee, Durango
    Honda - the Passport is nice; do you want another Pilot?
    Acura - MDX, RDX
    Nissan - Pathfinder, Murano, Armada
    Infiniti - QX60
    Toyota - 4Runner

    Plus all the trucks.

    I think the challenge will be to find something in the $500/mo range; you might surf the lease threads of the vehicles that interest you and see what others have done. I seem to remember a couple of 2019 Ram truck deals under $500/mo recently.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,099
    I had an Armada rental late last year, effectively the same vehicle with maybe less complex suspension. Same thing, it was like going back to 2010 in tech (which is when I think the design debuted). I was almost surprised it had Bluetooth. To its credit, I recall build quality seemed high.
    corvette said:


    The QX80 I rented in Tampa is their flagship SUV and did not have CarPlay or blind spot monitoring. :o

  • dad23dad23 ColoradoPosts: 501
    Thanks @stickguy and @Michaell, a few of those are already on my list, a few new ones to consider!
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,652
    fintail said:

    I had an Armada rental late last year, effectively the same vehicle with maybe less complex suspension. Same thing, it was like going back to 2010 in tech (which is when I think the design debuted). I was almost surprised it had Bluetooth. To its credit, I recall build quality seemed high.

    corvette said:


    The QX80 I rented in Tampa is their flagship SUV and did not have CarPlay or blind spot monitoring. :o

    Oh, my QX was a base model which didn't have the fancy suspension, so probably the same as the Armada you rented. Brake dive was worse than my 10 year old Tahoe (with the original suspension and 130,000 miles). I really liked the interior other than the dated infotainment. Also, a pet peeve with Nissan/Infiniti products (including my G37) - the sound the doors make when you close them does not have the same sort of solidity as the German makes, and exterior door handles make a tinny, hollow sound when you release them. A little sound deadening would go a long way in fixing those issues, I think.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 160,076
    stickguy said:

    We have nothing special planned this weekend, so I’ll arrange an errand outing that conveniently passes a couple dealers I want to stop at. And a brewery.

    I can guarantee the brewery part for this weekend...

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,622
    stickguy said:

    We have nothing special planned this weekend, so I’ll arrange an errand outing that conveniently passes a couple dealers I want to stop at. And a brewery.

    If I were you I'd just go to the brewery. It's probably free which is a hellava lot better than fighting off the hot-pants urge which could result in taking the chance of writing a check or signing up for lease payments. Deals are always better at the end of the year. You're almost there don't screw it up now. However, you'll be faced with the dilemma of the truth of honest posting in here which could cost you membership to this site. Damn, I'm glad I'm not you. :'(

    jmonroe
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,610
    Just think he could trade in a beautiful burgundy car for a charcoal grey one. :open_mouth:

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    The craft breweries by us are far from free. But very tasty!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 160,076
    stickguy said:

    The craft breweries by us are far from free. But very tasty!

    Craft beer is my hobby. Brewery tap rooms are my favorite places

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 154,348
    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    The craft breweries by us are far from free. But very tasty!

    Craft beer is my hobby. Brewery tap rooms are my favorite places
    We'll have to get you all to come to Denver and attend the Great American Beer Festival.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,787
    corvette said:

    @qbrozen hmm... I'm going to return the Bluedriver to Amazon and may check the Foxwell out.

    Depends on your needs. I did buy Bluedriver hoping it would fix my Chevy problem. But, truth is, I'll keep it because it covers all vehicles, while the Foxwell is (currently) ONLY for GM across certain years. This is the first issue I've had that a generic reader did not help me fix.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,800
    corvette said:

    @qbrozen hmm... I'm going to return the Bluedriver to Amazon and may check the Foxwell out.

    Bluedriver is great for code reading on basically anything. The Foxwell is brand-specific, IIRC. So, for example, I imagine that qbrozen's is for GM. I am not sure whether you can register additional manufacturer data on the same device or not.
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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,800
    qbrozen said:

    corvette said:

    @qbrozen hmm... I'm going to return the Bluedriver to Amazon and may check the Foxwell out.

    Depends on your needs. I did buy Bluedriver hoping it would fix my Chevy problem. But, truth is, I'll keep it because it covers all vehicles, while the Foxwell is (currently) ONLY for GM across certain years. This is the first issue I've had that a generic reader did not help me fix.
    Oh, whoops. Oh well. That's what I get for responding as I'm reading.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 2,007
    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    The craft breweries by us are far from free. But very tasty!

    Craft beer is my hobby. Brewery tap rooms are my favorite places
    +1
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 2,007
    edited October 2019
    qbrozen said:

    pensfan83 said:

    qbrozen said:

    corvette said:

    @qbrozen what tool was that?

    I got the Foxwell NT510.
    https://www.foxwelltech.com/product/item-169.html
    $129 brand new from ebay
    That's what I have as well! Only used it once so far but it seems pretty intuitive.
    It was easy enough to poke around in, but I was getting worried it would not do what I needed. Took me about 20 mins of methodically clicking through each menu to find the SAS. I know it reports to the BCM, but it was not in that menu of this tool. I forget now where it was, I believe maybe the transmission menu, of all places. I know it isn’t a prepopulated menu, and the tool is only reporting back what it finds as it scans modules, but I’d venture a guess what it was translating as “transmission” was not the transmission at all. Something along those lines.
    Unfortunately I'm not as knowledgeable or mechanically inclined as you so I was mainly looking for a reader that would give me an idea of what the issue was and what the expected repair cost would be. In thankfully limited use so far its been good.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    wife and I (and the daughter when she is hanging with us) like to go to the various craft places near us. Some are quite good (beer quality wise) but they are all a fun time.

    that scanner QB brought, from looking at the link, comes with 1 software package installed. and you can buy more. If can handle up to 5 packages at a time.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,193
    jmonroe1 said:

    stickguy said:

    We have nothing special planned this weekend, so I’ll arrange an errand outing that conveniently passes a couple dealers I want to stop at. And a brewery.

    If I were you I'd just go to the brewery. It's probably free which is a hellava lot better than fighting off the hot-pants urge which could result in taking the chance of writing a check or signing up for lease payments. Deals are always better at the end of the year. You're almost there don't screw it up now. However, you'll be faced with the dilemma of the truth of honest posting in here which could cost you membership to this site. Damn, I'm glad I'm not you. :'(

    jmonroe
    JM, you’re forgetting that this is stickguy we’re talking about here. No chance of him getting something yet. He hasn’t made his short list of 47 possible choices yet nor gotten lease numbers from at least 5 places on each of them. :D

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    hey, I already cut the short list down to 5. and then took one more off, so it is down to 4!

    Remember, this is the wife's car, so the pool of possible options is much smaller. and almost positive this one will be a purchase, not lease.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,652
    May just keep it, then.

    Second deck guy came in at $67 a square foot. Cheaper than my regular contractor but not a huge difference either way. Ugh.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    materials not cheap these days. and labor eats you up.

    do you have an elevated deck? Any option to take most of it down and go with a patio of some sort?

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,622
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    The craft breweries by us are far from free. But very tasty!

    Craft beer is my hobby. Brewery tap rooms are my favorite places
    We'll have to get you all to come to Denver and attend the Great American Beer Festival.
    I take that to mean Edmunds is going to spring for travel and room accommodations. What week should we plan for this tasty event? :o

    jmonroe
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    I saw a bunch of updates on that on FB. Looks like a fun time. Fattening and causing a headache maybe, but fun.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,622
    stickguy said:

    materials not cheap these days. and labor eats you up.

    do you have an elevated deck? Any option to take most of it down and go with a patio of some sort?

    Now you know why I do my own decks. Material costs are not marked up when I buy them and I don't charge myself to put it all together. Deck building is not the rocket surgery professional deck builders would have you believe it is.

    jmonroe
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    when we bought our first single family house (after a condo) it was a new build. I put the deck on myself (with a little help a few times from friends/family). But it was really not that hard. Just a simple box, maybe 15x20? Nothing overly fancy, but way overbuilt. One beam. Called for 3 posts, I think I put in 4 (maybe 5).

    worst part was digging the post holes by hand, In august. In dirt recently packed down by construction equipment. nasty. Did that part after dark.

    sold the house after about 7 years. Last time I drove by, sucker was still standing and looked pretty good, at least 25 years later.

    only scary part was putting lag bolts into the house sill.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    if you can read instructions and use a tape measure and speed square, and a saw, and do basic math of course.

    I imagine it can get complicated if you start getting into multiple levels and lots of angles. Mine was barely above grade (probably only had 2-3 steps off the far end to the yard).

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,800
    Building it is the fun part! After that, it is all work.
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,622
    stickguy said:

    when we bought our first single family house (after a condo) it was a new build. I put the deck on myself (with a little help a few times from friends/family). But it was really not that hard. Just a simple box, maybe 15x20? Nothing overly fancy, but way overbuilt. One beam. Called for 3 posts, I think I put in 4 (maybe 5).

    worst part was digging the post holes by hand, In august. In dirt recently packed down by construction equipment. nasty. Did that part after dark.

    sold the house after about 7 years. Last time I drove by, sucker was still standing and looked pretty good, at least 25 years later.

    only scary part was putting lag bolts into the house sill.

    When I built my first deck in the Summer of '89 (it was on my second house) and it was an extension off of a 7 by 9 foot covered porch. So I made the deck one step down from the existing porch. I guess you could call that a multi-level deck. I used a couple 1/2 lag screws to hold the deck ledger board in place at that point, then used about six 5/8 inch galvanized carriage bolts for the real support at that point. I know that thing was not coming down at that point after all that support. Since the deck was one story up I used six 6 x 6's to build two piers parallel to the house. You were a lot more energetic than I was about the digging because I rented a two man power 12 inch hole auger to drill down 5 feet for each 6 x 6. And yeah, I hit a few bricks that were thrown in as fill when that house was built (I was the second owner). Had to use a manual digger bar to get those bricks out of there but there was NO WAY in hell that I was going to dig six 12 inch diameter holes 5 feet deep manually with a digger bar. That damn sure was not going happen.

    That house is just 2 blocks away from where I live now and I see the deck still standing when I ride by. The guy that bought that house when we moved to SC in '92 was true to his word about taking care of the deck because he knew he didn't want to pay to built another one.

    Where there is a will there is a way. I mean, c'mon man, we're not talking about performing heart surgery on ourselves; it's just a measly deck.

    jmonroe

  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,099
    I think I recall something quirky on the Armada, like closing the front door hard and seeing it reverberate in the front fender. Interior materials were nicer than expected, no odd rattles etc, but I found the seat uncomfortable for long drives. I imagine when those find retail buyers, they sell at a nice discount. The Escalade I rented last month was exponentially more advanced, but you pay for it.
    corvette said:


    Oh, my QX was a base model which didn't have the fancy suspension, so probably the same as the Armada you rented. Brake dive was worse than my 10 year old Tahoe (with the original suspension and 130,000 miles). I really liked the interior other than the dated infotainment. Also, a pet peeve with Nissan/Infiniti products (including my G37) - the sound the doors make when you close them does not have the same sort of solidity as the German makes, and exterior door handles make a tinny, hollow sound when you release them. A little sound deadening would go a long way in fixing those issues, I think.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 154,348
    edited October 2019
    jmonroe1 said:

    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    The craft breweries by us are far from free. But very tasty!

    Craft beer is my hobby. Brewery tap rooms are my favorite places
    We'll have to get you all to come to Denver and attend the Great American Beer Festival.
    I take that to mean Edmunds is going to spring for travel and room accommodations. What week should we plan for this tasty event? :o

    jmonroe
    Do you look at life as nothing but a series of opportunities for others to buy you things? :wink:

    I've not been to the GABF - tickets sell out quicker than any concert that comes to town, then the scalpers take over.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 160,076
    xwesx said:

    Building it is the fun part! After that, it is all work.

    That's why I recommend PVC decking and aluminum rails... no maintenance.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,622
    Michaell said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    The craft breweries by us are far from free. But very tasty!

    Craft beer is my hobby. Brewery tap rooms are my favorite places
    We'll have to get you all to come to Denver and attend the Great American Beer Festival.
    I take that to mean Edmunds is going to spring for travel and room accommodations. What week should we plan for this tasty event? :o

    jmonroe
    Do you look at life as nothing but a series of opportunities for others to buy you things? :wink:

    I've not been to the GABF - tickets sell out quicker than any concert that comes to town, then the scalpers take over.
    It's worked so far, no sense changing now.

    As for the GABF event, I suggest you put off helping others do car shopping for a couple minutes so can get us tickets before they're gone. Do you really want to try explaining how you screwed this up for all your poster buddies in here? :'(

    jmonroe
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    Unless it is elevated, when I finally move if the new house is not already deck equipped, I will be putting in a stamped concrete patio instead of a deck. Probably need a small landing platform though, unless the back is really close to grade level. But I have no intention of putting another deck on. And it definitely won't be wood if I have to.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,610
    I did a patio. No maintenance, I even had created with a semi circle at the end to place a fire pit in the middle and chairs around. Nothing glamorous but a nice place to chill with the only maintenance being a power wash once in a while

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  • @ New York car ride, that sounds like an awesome Saturday spending with mom looking at a few potential candidate for at least awesome keep us updated on the role.
  • @ Michael, hopefully you in Broad and Dad 23 get out there and do some car looking wanna hear all about it.
  • @ add 23 welcome to the group don’t think I said anything prior. I think I saw a posting of yours once before.
  • @jmonro. All these questions, I’m the one supposed to be doing the interrogating or we’re gonna start a team here. lol lol
  • @ stick guy, hopefully you stop a few dealerships and ice and going to a brewery sounds like a fun weekend.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,136

    @ New York car ride, that sounds like an awesome Saturday spending with mom looking at a few potential candidate for at least awesome keep us updated on the role.

    I’m not going with her. She’s rolling solo on this one. I don’t want to influence her decision. I just find out what she likes, then will cast my net and get her the best price.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,136
    Update on Mom’s car shopping. She drove the RX350 and didn’t like it. She said it “felt” too big and it was difficult for her to judge the front of the car while making right turns. The sales woman she is dealing with showed her an NX300 in the showroom. She sat in it and liked it, so they went for a test drive. Mom liked that better anD the sales woman will email me a quote for her based on the parameters I discussed.

    She’s going back to drive the Cadillac again now.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,137
    might want to try an RDX too.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,610
    Crappy leases, no?

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,787
    Speaking of Cadillac, I happened upon an XT4 in the Starbucks parking lot. What I noticed was another badge on the right side that read 350T. So I had to look that one up, and this is what I found. Pretty darned absurd.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cars.com/amp/articles/dont-be-confused-when-you-see-these-numbers-on-the-backs-of-2020-cadillacs-1420757581840/

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 160,076
    qbrozen said:

    Speaking of Cadillac, I happened upon an XT4 in the Starbucks parking lot. What I noticed was another badge on the right side that read 350T. So I had to look that one up, and this is what I found. Pretty darned absurd.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cars.com/amp/articles/dont-be-confused-when-you-see-these-numbers-on-the-backs-of-2020-cadillacs-1420757581840/

    It's dumb... but, not much different than Mercedes and BMW having number designations that don't really mean anything, other than one engine is more powerful than the other. (330 vs. 340 or E300 vs. E450)

    I guess XT4400 would be a lot, all strung together.. :o

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 160,076
    I remember when GM started putting ABS on the back of their cars (80s, 90s?). :D

    Everyone has to brag about something.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,652
    stickguy said:

    materials not cheap these days. and labor eats you up.

    do you have an elevated deck? Any option to take most of it down and go with a patio of some sort?

    Yes, it's elevated, but I think I could do a covered concrete porch.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,652
    kyfdx said:

    I remember when GM started putting ABS on the back of their cars (80s, 90s?). :D

    Everyone has to brag about something.

    And I remember when Lutz decontented it in the early 2000s. ;)
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