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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,184
    Yeah, I agree that the latest Caddy numerology is pretty obscure. I suspect that will not last long. Though given they are supposedly GM's flagship line for electrification I guess they will need something other than displacement to proclaim.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,783
    It makes far less sense to me when you have only one engine option.

    '03 F250 7.3, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 52-car history and counting!

  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,091
    Regarding Caddy naming weirdness, DeNysschen seems to leave a little chaos in his wake, and also has an ability to fail upwards. Good old boys club.
  • dad23dad23 ColoradoPosts: 501

    @ add 23 welcome to the group don’t think I said anything prior. I think I saw a posting of yours once before.

    Thanks, been MIA for quite a while but getting back on the horse, so to speak :)
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,633
    edited October 2019
    CEL extinguished in the XF. Woo hoo, the Jag lives to see another day. Hail, Britannia electronics!

    Invited the boy to an early dinner tomorrow night, watch the Pats game. I wanna see his new 3 in the wild! See if he bought a tire pressure gauge, snow brush/scraper, flashlight... if not, his birthday's coming...

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,622

    CEL extinguished in the XF. Woo hoo, the Jag lives to see another day. Hail, Britannia electronics!

    Invited the boy to an early dinner tomorrow night, watch the Pats game. I wanna see his new 3 in the wild! See if he bought a tire pressure gauge, snow brush/scraper, flashlight... if not, his birthday's coming...

    Are you soliciting gifts from us? :o

    jmonroe

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,184
    fintail said:

    Regarding Caddy naming weirdness, DeNysschen seems to leave a little chaos in his wake, and also has an ability to fail upwards. Good old boys club.

    I think the nomenclature change was post-departure.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    Snuck a test drive in today. Wife wanted to go to the giant "at home" store a few towns over to look for baskets for the coffee table (my idea was get rid of the dead crap in them and don't have any baskets, was not well received). So, since we had nothing special to do and wife was grumbly about doing something, I offered to take her. Knowing that we had to pass right by a couple of my favorite dealers to get there, so made a quick detour into the Subaru dealer parking lot at about 3:30ish. Surprised (probably good for Subaru) that the place was hopping, but a salesguy greeted us out in the parking lot. Told him we wanted to drive an OB, so got taken inside to see one on the floor and then off to his desk for interrogation some questions.

    Oh, did I mention that they pop up a "come in to test drive, get $50" promo when you look at inventory? Of course, I printed that off, and handed to him at the beginning. so in a few days will get a $50 Visa gift card. Not a bad days work. Whenever we can finally get out to Hyundai, they have the same thing, and I definitely will be bringing it! May have to put Cadillac back on the list (they have one too), Hey, cars are expensive (so are baskets), gotta pay for them somehow.

    anyway, as to the car. Drove a nice blue OB limited, base engine. Turns out the wife liked the color, a good start. Car is really, really nice. Superb seats, with a nice thigh extension for the driver. we both were comfortable with how we could set them. New giant center screen was very nice, and excellent graphics. The map looked better than having google maps up on my iPad. Puts my TLX to shame. Tons of room in the back seat. Quiet, good ride, nice handling, and being more carlike, great visibility especially to the front. Feels smaller than it really is, especially in tight quarters.

    only negatives (admittedly it was a short drive) are that the engine was kinda weak (wife mentioned it had much less oomph than her RDX). Not an issue, since I would get the XT anyway, but always good to test the base engine first to make sure you need the HiPo one. In this case, you do. And the wife really hates the auto stop/start. Normally not a big deal, since you can turn it off. The salesguy did it, but instead of a dedicated button, it was buried about 4 menus deep. Which would be a problem, since per him, it reset every time you start the car to be active. Need some research on that, but could be a deal breaker for her!

    anyway, outside of that one quibble, it was a seriously impressive package. No wonder they are selling like hotcakes. And one interesting tidbit. SG said that while in the past the H6 had a very small take rate (>10%) on the new one, the XT seems to be the engine everyone wants, so can't get enough of them for inventory.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,589
    Excellent visibility has always been a hallmark of Subaru. Glad they’re sticking with it.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    one thing I hate about a lot of the CUVs now. Not just the giant rear blindspots and tiny rear window, is they have oversized, big blocky noses, so feel like driving a PU, where you can't see what's in front of you.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,184
    The ATS has stop/start but it has a button to switch it off on the console. Like the Subie, you need to do it every time you start the car. That's a pain. I eventually got used to the stop/start so I don't bother switching it off any more. It is only slightly intrusive.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,650

    Invited the boy to an early dinner tomorrow night, watch the Pats game. I wanna see his new 3 in the wild! See if he bought a tire pressure gauge, snow brush/scraper, flashlight... if not, his birthday's coming...

    I keep a roadside emergency kit in both cars and a set of extra-long heavy duty jumper cables in the Tahoe. Put the scrapers and a container of salt in them during the winter months.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    I would be fine with a button that you just poked right after starting the car. Becomes muscle memory. Just don't want to have to deal with scrolling through multiple menus. Or more accurately, the wife won't want to. And not sure if she will just get used to it!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,470
    kyfdx said:

    I remember when GM started putting ABS on the back of their cars (80s, 90s?). :D

    Everyone has to brag about something.

    I liked the Camaros and Corvettes with "Cross Fire Injection" and Oldsmobile's "Twin Dual Cam."

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    big stuff back in the 70's was a "5 speed" badge on your Toyota!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,184
    I seem to recall a “Disc Brakes” callout on the tailgate of some pickup models way back when?

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,136
    Or the Ford Windstall TRACTION CONTROL badge

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,091
    The 350T thing yes, but IIRC he was 100% behind the XT5/CT6 etc idea, which as a one trick pony, is exactly what he did at Infiniti, who has cars that make Caddy look like the pillar of relevancy. I wouldn't want him managing my car company.
    ab348 said:



    I think the nomenclature change was post-departure.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 13,799
    Interesting note about the stop/start. I didn't realize that Subaru did that with their cars. We have had a couple of rentals with that feature - the first being an Escape a couple years ago. It was certainly alarming/annoying at first, but I quickly figured out how to manipulate it to either, 1., not happen just by the way I operated the brake pedal, or 2., turn the engine on just slightly before I anticipated actually needing the engine to operate (such as at red lights). Once I had it sorted out, it didn't bother me at all any more,, and I never bothered hunting for how to turn off the feature.

    I agree, though... having the option to turn off something like that, but then having the car auto-reset it to the choice you do NOT want each time you shut off the car, is really, really, REALLY frustrating.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,470
    I think that the Eco Gestapo at the EPA now requires stop/start to be on at startup- unlike my X1 and 2er; I think that the feature can be coded to stay off on later BMWs and Minis.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,184
    fintail said:

    The 350T thing yes, but IIRC he was 100% behind the XT5/CT6 etc idea, which as a one trick pony, is exactly what he did at Infiniti, who has cars that make Caddy look like the pillar of relevancy. I wouldn't want him managing my car company.

    I think the business about naming was very overblown. You had the die-hards who wanted them to bring back old names like Eldorado and Seville which were utterly meaningless, old-fashioned and could be very confusing. Prior to his time they went to the "TS" series for sedans - starting with the STS and DTS, then CTS and ATS. Confusion reigned when they went to the XT5 and XTS, one a SUV and the other a sedan. So there is at least some logic now, with CT# for sedans and XT# for SUVs. The Escalade is the lone holdout because that is the one "wordy" name that has significant brand equity, so they are scared to touch it.

    I find it strange how some continue to lambaste Cadillac for its naming convention while other makes like Infiniti, BMW, Lexus, Audi and even M-B can be even more confusing.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    my son figured out how to disable it automatically on at least 1 of his Genesis/Audi. If you kept it in a performance driving mode (sport or sport+) it disabled the auto start/stop. Though I would not want my wife driving around at 5,000 RPMs all the time instead.

    I assume the Santa Fe has the same set-up as the Gemesis (dash looks similar). Dedicated button by the shift lever. Just get in the habit of pushing that when you put it in gear. Becomes muscle memory, like pushing the button to turn the parking brake off.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,184
    I really believe you do get used to it if my experience is anything to go by. It is jarring at first but that goes away quickly. It is actually nice in certain situations.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,608
    edited October 2019
    My Volvo once you turn it off in the settings it’s gone forever... thank goodness

    Closing up the campground today. No more weekends away until April! (Well here anyway) Luckily my buddy who has a place here is a pro at winterizing and has the pump for the antifreeze!

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    the Sube was not the best I ever drove in terms of not noticing, but far from the worst. Could probably get used to it, though I still believe it will have LT durability issues. Not a problem on a lease, but since I would like to keep that car 10 years, could be an issue!

    I did tell the wife that like anything, you will get used to it (along with a whole lot of other differences going to a "modern" car). Turns out it is largely mental. She is worried that it won't turn back on when it needs to, and she will be stuck at a stop not moving! I politely pointed out that she was over thinking this. And that pushing the button was not a big deal (assuming there is one) though she seems to be adamant that it is a huge problem to have to do that. I think she is becoming a Luddite. Maybe should just keep the RDX forever for her, even without navigation of any sort or blind spot, etc., since she seems to know how to use what she needs to. Though can't make a call without picking up her phone to do it, that I know.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 159,982
    We had our 2011 X3 up to 94K miles... not one issue with stop/start.

    Currently at 36K on the 2017 model, and again.. no issues.

    We leave it on, almost all of the time. Except in very slow stop/go traffic (where it would constantly cycle, like a freeway traffic jam)

    Ours is easy though.. a button next to the stop/start button. Doesn't re-set, that I've noticed. Stays where you leave it.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,650
    nyccarguy said:

    Or the Ford Windstall TRACTION CONTROL badge

    I think the Freestar and Exploder both had "Advancetrac RSC" badges after Ford scurried to put stability control on their vans and SUVs after the Firestone tire fiasco.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,650

    I think that the Eco Gestapo at the EPA now requires stop/start to be on at startup- unlike my X1 and 2er; I think that the feature can be coded to stay off on later BMWs and Minis.

    I thought they would run the MPG test with it off, if it doesn't default to "on" at startup, so there's no benefit to the manufacturers installing it unless it defaults to on.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    I think that is it corvette. I can't believe it makes that much of a real world difference, but every ounce counts to the car companies. Restarting all the time has to eat into the savings.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,091
    I think Caddy would be well-served using some traditional names. Caddy's differentiation needs to be that it is American - few have even marginally succeeded at truly emulating the Germans (Lexus LS comes closest by far), eventually it becomes time to try a new game. I find Fleetwood to be more compelling than CT6.

    I just find it funny that deNysschen played the same game at two companies, both of which now are dearly striving for relevancy. Coincidence? Hard to believe. He's the Brian Burke of the automotive industry suit set - has a few mediocre-at-best laurels, which he rests on heavily, sometimes leaves chaos in his wake, and because of a network of similarly barely filled-out suits, can always find a job and no doubt helps find similar for friends and/or family too.

    The Germans may now have numbers more linked to power than displacement, but the basic convention remains the same, MB has been using a number/letter ideal for about 90 years now.
    ab348 said:



    I think the business about naming was very overblown. You had the die-hards who wanted them to bring back old names like Eldorado and Seville which were utterly meaningless, old-fashioned and could be very confusing. Prior to his time they went to the "TS" series for sedans - starting with the STS and DTS, then CTS and ATS. Confusion reigned when they went to the XT5 and XTS, one a SUV and the other a sedan. So there is at least some logic now, with CT# for sedans and XT# for SUVs. The Escalade is the lone holdout because that is the one "wordy" name that has significant brand equity, so they are scared to touch it.

    I find it strange how some continue to lambaste Cadillac for its naming convention while other makes like Infiniti, BMW, Lexus, Audi and even M-B can be even more confusing.

  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWPosts: 2,956
    Some stop/starts on cars are more intrusive than others. Surprisingly, my late model Mercedes’ had very noticeable sound and shutter with each re-start.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,091
    For stop/start, I know there are MB software hacks to get around it. It doesn't bother me - the button for it is right on the console, and with traffic around here, it might actually save a teacup of fuel now and then. I usually switch it off if I know I won't be stopping for long periods, or will be going quick stop maneuvers like tight turns in garages etc.
  • @ New York car guy! Was An good idea to sit out and just work on the numbers for mom
  • @jmonro. You are to much! Lol lol
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    fintail said:

    For stop/start, I know there are MB software hacks to get around it. It doesn't bother me - the button for it is right on the console, and with traffic around here, it might actually save a teacup of fuel now and then. I usually switch it off if I know I won't be stopping for long periods, or will be going quick stop maneuvers like tight turns in garages etc.

    I am more than fine getting it if the button is right there on the console/center stack to disable. Just one more thing to push on start up. Would end up doing it without even looking or thinking about it.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,184
    nyccarguy said:

    Or the Ford Windstall TRACTION CONTROL badge

    I knew I wasn't imaging it - discovered that 1971-72 Chevy (and presumably GMC) pickups had this decal applied to the top left of the tailgate if equipped with disc brakes.

    image

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    3rd base coaching my SILs attempt to trade in her expiring RDX lease on a new RDX lease. Quite messy financially it seems, though I imagine the dealer would have no problem playing games to make all that work out. She is intending to just extend month to month until year end (allowing for a job change to happen in a couple of weeks) but of course, the dealer would much prefer just get her butt into a new seat instead.

    can't wait to see how this one ends up. Though if they let her keep the current car at the same payment (considerably lower than what a new one would go for) it makes sense to keep that as long as possible, and take advantage of year end holiday incentives.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    well, that did not go as planned (but probably as expected). She texted that a deal is inked, will pick up Thursday.

    2020 RDX, AWD base (I pushed Tech, but $ ruled). Red over beige (color combo my wife would likely get, could be a problem!). Not sure all the details, but ended up being $379/month, $2,550 total OOP DAS. 36/10 I think. MSRP just about $41k.

    Should be a nice upgrade. In since the 2017 she turned in was also a base car, won't be losing anything (and gaining a bunch of safety nannies, laser cruise, and car play giving her the Navi she missed having).

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,136
    Got an email from the sales woman at the Lexus dealer. Had to check the date to make sure it wasn’t April 1. 36/15K per year with 1st & DMV DAS is $645 per month. I emailed her for a specific breakdown this AM. She’s off today (dealer is closed) and will get back to me tomorrow.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    when I was looking last December, an NX with the tech package (whatever they called the one with roof, BLIS, etc), MSRP around 43K, was $445/mo with $450 DAS (on Honcker). 39/10 I think, maybe 12. So adjust a bit, but price has gone UP UP UP!

    Just checked Rodo. In my zip, an NX300 premium, MSRP $46,382, 36/15, 1st payment DAS is $554/month.

    same car, sticker $43,082, (moonroof package/comfort package/parking package, the exact way I would have gotten it) is $516 month/ $516 DAS.

    so I think you got some room to negotiate.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,826
    stickguy said:

    well, that did not go as planned (but probably as expected). She texted that a deal is inked, will pick up Thursday.

    2020 RDX, AWD base (I pushed Tech, but $ ruled). Red over beige (color combo my wife would likely get, could be a problem!). Not sure all the details, but ended up being $379/month, $2,550 total OOP DAS. 36/10 I think. MSRP just about $41k.

    Should be a nice upgrade. In since the 2017 she turned in was also a base car, won't be losing anything (and gaining a bunch of safety nannies, laser cruise, and car play giving her the Navi she missed having).

    Doesn’t seem so bad assuming a 36/10 or 36/12 lease.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 159,982

    stickguy said:

    well, that did not go as planned (but probably as expected). She texted that a deal is inked, will pick up Thursday.

    2020 RDX, AWD base (I pushed Tech, but $ ruled). Red over beige (color combo my wife would likely get, could be a problem!). Not sure all the details, but ended up being $379/month, $2,550 total OOP DAS. 36/10 I think. MSRP just about $41k.

    Should be a nice upgrade. In since the 2017 she turned in was also a base car, won't be losing anything (and gaining a bunch of safety nannies, laser cruise, and car play giving her the Navi she missed having).

    Doesn’t seem so bad assuming a 36/10 or 36/12 lease.
    Agreed

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,136
    The NX300 is out. She re-drove the XT5 and likes it a lot better.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWPosts: 2,956
    nyccarguy said:

    The NX300 is out. She re-drove the XT5 and likes it a lot better.

    Has your mom been driving a Porsche SUV?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    if the NX was big enough, how about an XT4? That is the comparable model, and definitely still roomier. I liked the one I sat in! the 5 is as big as an RX, though probably more appropriate to replace a Cayan.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125

    stickguy said:

    well, that did not go as planned (but probably as expected). She texted that a deal is inked, will pick up Thursday.

    2020 RDX, AWD base (I pushed Tech, but $ ruled). Red over beige (color combo my wife would likely get, could be a problem!). Not sure all the details, but ended up being $379/month, $2,550 total OOP DAS. 36/10 I think. MSRP just about $41k.

    Should be a nice upgrade. In since the 2017 she turned in was also a base car, won't be losing anything (and gaining a bunch of safety nannies, laser cruise, and car play giving her the Navi she missed having).

    Doesn’t seem so bad assuming a 36/10 or 36/12 lease.
    from my poking around it really was a very strong deal. I would have grabbed it if I wanted that model.

    heard back from her. Deal is in limbo with the finance office. Not sure they will get it through or what will happen (might end up in a cheaper sedan, ILX or TLX, to smoke and mirrors a deal together that AFS will approve). Won't know until Tuesday but the finance guy likes her (3rd time customer) and when is is back in will start working angles, and promises they will get her in "something" so she is not carless.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,136
    carnaught said:

    nyccarguy said:

    The NX300 is out. She re-drove the XT5 and likes it a lot better.

    Has your mom been driving a Porsche SUV?
    Yes. She currently drives a 2016 V6 Porsche Cayenne

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,136
    stickguy said:

    if the NX was big enough, how about an XT4? That is the comparable model, and definitely still roomier. I liked the one I sat in! the 5 is as big as an RX, though probably more appropriate to replace a Cayan.


    She liked the way the NX drove, but thought it might be tight in the back. So she went to drive the Caddy again.

    1st time in I don’t know how many years my parents will have 3 GM cars

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 38,125
    using my quick and dirty Rodo research, XT5 @46K is about same lease as the NX300 @46K sticker.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,633
    I have no issues with the XF start/stop. Disable button on console, so easy to turn off. But, it's enabled upon reboot.

    NYC, take mom to Darien, show her an F-Pace... gee, no one saw that coming from me. Treat her to Duchess.

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

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