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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,893
    ok... but a solid panel isn't a daylight opening. LOL.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,087
    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3vApe7RO/1985-porsche-928-s

    I was tempted... but a Porsche fanatic got it.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    928 never did much for me. Especially an automatic. But that one is very nice looking.

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,778
    That looked like a good one and the auto doesn’t bother me in those. Much more of a grand tourer than a hard core sports car. Lots of recent maintenance too which is good as our friend Shifty used to warn people that these could bleed a person dry in a hurry.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,236
    Found a small crack in the windshield today, Safelite coming on Saturday to repair it. It's pretty small and am betting they can inject that gel like they did with the Mazda3 many years ago. With all the rain these past few days, sun finally came out today and with the windshield so clean, I saw it. Definitely not dirt, a small crack. Called my insurance and seems to be covered and should cost zero dollars.
    Always something with an automobile it seems...lol!!

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,236
    Oh well, had a slight feeling it might be a bit too long for my side of the garage. Showed the wife a new Seltos in the mall and she hated it! I didn't mind it really to be honest and the few I've seen on the road do look great. Seems like my best bet is just going to be the new GTI and that ain't too bad but, would be nice to have more of a selection. And as much as I like my kids Accent, not sure I'd be happy after a few weeks with the Limited model. At least I'd have a sun/moon roof and alloy wheels with 16" tires.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,594
    The neighbors next door have a new Seltos. The bought it when they first came out, so they've had it 6 months or so. It is two tone, dark blue body, white top and mirrors. The dark blue has good depth and looks really nice. They are happy with it. It is the "S" AWD.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 204,715
    Speaking of windshields, the Outback has a faint crack on the passenger side.

    Just looked at the last receipt - I had it replaced in August of last year. Over $900 cost, but I have a $0 deductible plan through State Farm, so no money out of my pocket.

    Sucks to have to replace it again, so soon, but that's what insurance is for.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,066
    fintail said:

    DLO Fail DLO = Daylight Opening, failing when black filler panels or complete fake windows are used to complete a window line. Lazy design IMO.

    qbrozen said:


    Huh?

    Cost-cutting dictates fewer pieces of glass on newer cars. Look at the last of the RWD Volvos - the 740/760 and 940/960/S90 sedans had a moving window in the rear doors, a fixed window in the rear doors, and yet another window in the rear quarter area. I can't recall anything in recent memory with such a high number of windows.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 206,800
    corvette said:

    fintail said:

    DLO Fail DLO = Daylight Opening, failing when black filler panels or complete fake windows are used to complete a window line. Lazy design IMO.

    qbrozen said:


    Huh?

    Cost-cutting dictates fewer pieces of glass on newer cars. Look at the last of the RWD Volvos - the 740/760 and 940/960/S90 sedans had a moving window in the rear doors, a fixed window in the rear doors, and yet another window in the rear quarter area. I can't recall anything in recent memory with such a high number of windows.
    Lower weight, too

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,236
    If I did get a Seltos, I'd also go with the white over blue combo but since I'd have to have the Bose audio system, it would be the top of the line SX turbo. Even though I spend so much less time behind the wheel, I want my tunes to at least sound good. And I'm the kind that can't go out of gear without music on. Guess it was that way from my youth, but the music was always on in the autos we owned and usually in the house. I'm willing to spend the extra$ to get the upgraded sound systems in my rides and no longer want to get it done after market. But will if I have no other choice. And now that we've had Sirius/XM for many years, we like it and am willing to spring for it.
    Have yet to test drive a Seltos but think I'd like it. And I think it'll fit on my side of the garage so shouldn't be an issue.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,851

    Showed the wife a new Seltos in the mall and she hated it! I didn't mind it really to be honest and the few I've seen on the road do look great.

    Since she isn't the one driving it I would suggest it is a "too bad/so sad" situation for her. B)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    not driving it, not paying for it, shouldn't have a say in it!

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,603
    Aren’t you guys married??? LOL

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,327
    I usually come home and say 'I just bought a car', but not always.
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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,764
    Yeah, best to reach a compromise on that sort of thing. Not all of us can have wives that are supportive of our obsession. :D
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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,764
    You can use me as an example of what happens if you don't.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    tjc78 said:

    Aren’t you guys married??? LOL

    I generally would give her a courtesy call. But usually by the time I finally do something, she is tired of hearing about it and looking, and just tells me to get whatever I want.

    of course, this only goes for something that won't be her car, with the caveat that if she hates it, don't expect her to ride in it. So if I go too off the wall, better be sure I don't mind using her car any time we are together.

    her car, I know enough to let that be 100% her choice!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    plus, right now we have one car, so if I get some weird toy, she will just pretend we still only have 1 car!

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,764
    stickguy said:

    tjc78 said:

    Aren’t you guys married??? LOL

    I generally would give her a courtesy call. But usually by the time I finally do something, she is tired of hearing about it and looking, and just tells me to get whatever I want.

    of course, this only goes for something that won't be her car, with the caveat that if she hates it, don't expect her to ride in it. So if I go too off the wall, better be sure I don't mind using her car any time we are together.

    her car, I know enough to let that be 100% her choice!
    Wow, yours does better than mine. If I talk about something like that, she will usually just tell me that she doesn't care.... until I actually do something, then she's quite put out about "not including her."

    However, I can see this discussion going quite sideways in the near future, so I'm just going to zip it now. :D
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,893
    When is the last time you saw one of these? And, damn, this has to be the best remaining example on earth.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    must be the nicest one left. A guy up the block from me had a burgandy one. Sat on the driveway for years, just sagging away looking bad. Flat tires, etc. They eventually sold the house at least 5 years ago, and I have no idea what happened to the car.

    for the price, not a bad little runabout convertible.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,764
    qbrozen said:

    When is the last time you saw one of these? And, damn, this has to be the best remaining example on earth.

    Eech. Such a homely car, and the convertible does nothing for that appearance!
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,842
    Exactly, it is a fake daylight opening, a fail :)
    qbrozen said:

    ok... but a solid panel isn't a daylight opening. LOL.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,893
    I think I need this. LOL.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,926

    Just watched the video of the 2021 Elantra N-Line and really liked it! Not sure if the length will work for my parking situation, but will definitely give it a try once it comes to our marketplace. Was obvious how much the reviewer liked the car and think Hyundai did a nice job with it's overall look, both inside and out. Looks killer in red and assuming it'll also come in black & white and hopefully a gray color. Only negative for me is that it's a sedan and I prefer a hatchback to be honest but hopefully, Hyundai will make it in a hatch also. Looks to be a more grown up vehicle now and they did a great job shrinking the Sonata. Also was impressed with the projected miles per gallon, as it seems to be more on the economical side while driving more on the sporty side. A very good combination if his figures play out here in the real world. Am hoping that it'll cost somewhere around the $25K point or even less. I would definitely go with the auto tranny if I did indeed purchase one. And like most Hyundai/Kia products, am assuming it'll be "cheap to keep", something I'd like going forward if possible. Depending on how it drives and the cost, could definitely see me buying one as my next vehicle!
    Good job Hyundai!!!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,926

    Rained all day today so it was a bit of a chore driving at work. I had to drive the 13-pack right around lunchtime, but glad I did. While at PBI getting two vehicles to bring to an office in Lantana, the other two got into a slight accident while one was backing up. It didn't hurt the paint but it left a nice dimple in the sheet metal. Naturally, there were forms to fill out and it took a good hour to get that all done. But accidents do happen, just part of the game I suspect. We eventually got another vehicle and dropped both off at the location that needed them. Was just glad that I wasn't involved to be honest. I'm sure that after a certain amount of these fender benders, Enterprise would have no choice but to let the multiple offender go. No one likes to fire someone or get fired, but depending on how many vehicles get damaged, management has no other choice than to sever ties with that person. I do remember someone I worked with as an independent contractor who also got hired by Hertz, getting fired because he had a bunch of small fender benders. Guess they felt that he was too great a risk and had to say good bye once and for all.
    I know these kind of things are sometimes unavoidable but I try very hard to be as careful as I can so not to have one. I did have one at Hertz, minor though it was, I still had to fill out paperwork and then go for a drug test. Doubt they do the drug testing anymore, but back then, it was mandatory. And with all the rain today, we saw a multitude of accidents all over South Florida!

    Up here Enterprise has a three strikes and out policy. Some of the guys have come pretty close. One had two accidents in his first month, one was a doozie where he wrapped a 900 miles cargo van around a steel beam coming into the yard. Another guy actually knocked the gate to the yard off the hinges because he said the gas pedal stuck.

    Then we had one crash into a tractor trailer, knocking the wheels off the truck, another who flipped a car end over end and a young guy who didn’t tell the company he was on heavy duty pain killers and passed out, rolling the Jeep in a ditch.

    And that’s only the ones I know about. None of them was drug tested which blows my mind.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    a lot easier to google. 184.1"

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    qbrozen said:

    I think I need this. LOL.

    If that had a stick, I would fight you for it. That is the vintage I had (though I think my was a 1974). Yellow X, big 6 and 3 speed on the floor. Same dash and steering wheel.

    probably a death ride with that much power, if you touch the gas in the wet on a corner. Or crest a hill. But, must be fun!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,926
    andres3 said:

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3vApe7RO/1985-porsche-928-s

    I was tempted... but a Porsche fanatic got it.

    Was that a good Porsche model? I remember seeing one in the cash for clunkers line at the dealer in 2009.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    down the rabbit hole, and what do I find at the bottom, one of my other "dream cars" from back in my HS days!

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercury-capri-4/

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,926
    tjc78 said:

    Aren’t you guys married??? LOL

    I only have to get color approval, after that it’s anything goes.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,926
    qbrozen said:

    When is the last time you saw one of these? And, damn, this has to be the best remaining example on earth.

    I actually like that.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,893

    qbrozen said:

    When is the last time you saw one of these? And, damn, this has to be the best remaining example on earth.

    I actually like that.
    So do I. Reliable drivetrain. Seats look comfy. Wife didn’t seem enthused though.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,926
    stickguy said:

    down the rabbit hole, and what do I find at the bottom, one of my other "dream cars" from back in my HS days!

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercury-capri-4/

    I always loved those cars but are you sure it isn’t this one?

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 204,715
    I was not a fan of the first gen Capri, but the older brother of a good childhood friend of mine bought either a '76 or '77 model. Silver, with a black interior. Sharp looking vehicle.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,764
    Darn. I missed this milestone. It took me a while to sync up having a camera on hand and being in the vehicle...



    It turned over on my way to work this morning.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,851
    stickguy said:

    down the rabbit hole, and what do I find at the bottom, one of my other "dream cars" from back in my HS days!

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercury-capri-4/

    IIRC those were not good cars. Aside from rust issues, they had front end woes and things like wipers and heaters used to go bad with great regularity.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,851
    qbrozen said:

    When is the last time you saw one of these? And, damn, this has to be the best remaining example on earth.

    I never liked the styling of those, very uninspired. When I would see a rare convertible version with the top down around here I always used to think they should have built a small pickup off that body, as it looked like truck styling.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,603
    The Infiniti convertible in some ways reminds me of an 80s K-car.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,603
    Now this is a convertible!

    Channeling my inner My Cousin Vinny

    I’d take this in a minute.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-cadillac-62-convertible-6/

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,926
    tjc78 said:

    Now this is a convertible!

    Channeling my inner My Cousin Vinny

    I’d take this in a minute.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-cadillac-62-convertible-6/

    That is very nice. It might be a better investment to buy classic cars as the price of late model used cars are still crazy. Yesterday we delivered a pick up to a dealer for $38k. 9 months ago that same truck was going for $27-30k. It’s going to take a long time to work through that high priced inventory before prices regain sanity.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    Chase scene was a gen 2. I like those also.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,087
    edited October 2020

    Rained all day today so it was a bit of a chore driving at work. I had to drive the 13-pack right around lunchtime, but glad I did. While at PBI getting two vehicles to bring to an office in Lantana, the other two got into a slight accident while one was backing up. It didn't hurt the paint but it left a nice dimple in the sheet metal. Naturally, there were forms to fill out and it took a good hour to get that all done. But accidents do happen, just part of the game I suspect. We eventually got another vehicle and dropped both off at the location that needed them. Was just glad that I wasn't involved to be honest. I'm sure that after a certain amount of these fender benders, Enterprise would have no choice but to let the multiple offender go. No one likes to fire someone or get fired, but depending on how many vehicles get damaged, management has no other choice than to sever ties with that person. I do remember someone I worked with as an independent contractor who also got hired by Hertz, getting fired because he had a bunch of small fender benders. Guess they felt that he was too great a risk and had to say good bye once and for all.
    I know these kind of things are sometimes unavoidable but I try very hard to be as careful as I can so not to have one. I did have one at Hertz, minor though it was, I still had to fill out paperwork and then go for a drug test. Doubt they do the drug testing anymore, but back then, it was mandatory. And with all the rain today, we saw a multitude of accidents all over South Florida!

    Up here Enterprise has a three strikes and out policy. Some of the guys have come pretty close. One had two accidents in his first month, one was a doozie where he wrapped a 900 miles cargo van around a steel beam coming into the yard. Another guy actually knocked the gate to the yard off the hinges because he said the gas pedal stuck.

    Then we had one crash into a tractor trailer, knocking the wheels off the truck, another who flipped a car end over end and a young guy who didn’t tell the company he was on heavy duty pain killers and passed out, rolling the Jeep in a ditch.

    And that’s only the ones I know about. None of them was drug tested which blows my mind.
    So what your saying is they'll hire anyone and anything with a pulse. :worried:

    If I was running things, any at-fault collision within the first 6 month "probationary" period would equal 3 strikes.
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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,087

    andres3 said:

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3vApe7RO/1985-porsche-928-s

    I was tempted... but a Porsche fanatic got it.

    Was that a good Porsche model? I remember seeing one in the cash for clunkers line at the dealer in 2009.
    Not sure. Porsche was perennially at the top of JD Powers it seems like forever. It has a V8. Looks to be in good shape, and they already spent a small fortune on it to get it in tip top running condition. Someone thought it was worth more than $20K; so can't be that bad, can it?
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  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulMember Posts: 1,054
    ab348 said:

    stickguy said:

    down the rabbit hole, and what do I find at the bottom, one of my other "dream cars" from back in my HS days!

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercury-capri-4/

    IIRC those were not good cars. Aside from rust issues, they had front end woes and things like wipers and heaters used to go bad with great regularity.
    My dad had a 1973, same drivetrain. Had it for too short a time because the electrics were terrible. ☹
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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,087
    edited October 2020
    xwesx said:

    Darn. I missed this milestone. It took me a while to sync up having a camera on hand and being in the vehicle...



    It turned over on my way to work this morning.

    Time to trade it in! You can't own an Audi past 100K. Everyone here seems to think they implode soon thereafter.

    Admittedly, the old 4.2 V8 with the inaccessible timing chains is like holding a grenade with the pin halfway out by 100,000 miles.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,646
    I figure that after almost 50 years, any issues like that have been sorted out.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,764
    andres3 said:


    Admittedly, the old 4.2 V8 with the inaccessible timing chains is like holding a grenade with the pin halfway out by 100,000 miles.

    Well, if it is going to implode, I do hope it chooses soon! The settlement warranty continues to 120,000 miles, so now's the time to go belly up if it is going to do it. :D
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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,764
    stickguy said:

    I figure that after almost 50 years, any issues like that have been sorted out.

    Too many vehicles under discussion.... to which were you referring?
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