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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,895
    edited October 24

    breld said:
    Strange terminology they use “upstart” and “fledgling company”. Hasn’t Genesis been it’s own brand for over a decade? I know I considered a Genesis coupe in 2008.
    I agree that the terminology they used is poor. But IIRC they began with a "Hyundai Genesis" model, before creating it as its own brand, then floundered for a couple of years as they couldn't figure out how to handle it without its own dealer network, and also introduced the Equus which they had no clue what to do with, before finally setting up Genesis as its own brand sold mostly through designated Hyundai dealers.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 171,264
    In the US, I've never seen a Genesis showroom, that wasn't on the same property as a Hyundai dealer. They've never really set up a dealer network, like Lexus or Acura.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,867
    breld said:

    I’m not saying it’s a steal or anything close, but given the miles and model year, if this has been properly maintained, it’s a nice example.

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    The E28 and E39 are the best M5 iterations as far as I'm concerned, but I could be tempted by an E34.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    kyfdx said:

    In the US, I've never seen a Genesis showroom, that wasn't on the same property as a Hyundai dealer. They've never really set up a dealer network, like Lexus or Acura.

    that was a mistake by Hyundai. requiring commitment to stand alone stores before the network was ready to support it. Or product pipeline.

    they did open a new showroom by me (previously were running from the small Hyundai store). Took over an old Dodge/jeep dealership. What is odd though, that building is much bigger than the Hyundai store, so no clue why they did not move Hyundai over there instead.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,867
    I hate to admit it, but I find this puppy interesting...

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 16,465
    kyfdx said:

    In the US, I've never seen a Genesis showroom, that wasn't on the same property as a Hyundai dealer. They've never really set up a dealer network, like Lexus or Acura.

    The one combined store I’ve seen is just one long showroom with rows of desks from end to end. No designation as to where Genesis ends and Hyundai begins. The only clue is the respective brand names on each end of the building.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 16,465

    I hate to admit it, but I find this puppy interesting...

    That looks like something Jason Stratham would drive.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,274

    I hate to admit it, but I find this puppy interesting...

    Those are sharp - I’d certainly be interested in your impressions on it.

    If/when I want a fun car with a little more practicality, that’s on my list.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,909
    The story was that BMW tried to exert more control over their dealers in the US in order for them to be allowed to sell the X5. The dealers revolted. I think there was a lawsuit by one or more dealers. Threatened with not being able to sell their new SUV, BMW backed down.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 16,465
    I’m looking to acquire this little gem.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,996
    @oldfarmer50,
    They made a few of them, so you might be able to find one.
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 1,063
    edited October 24
    @qbrozen - how well do the genesis vehicles seem to hold their value at auction?

    Wondering if they are Acura Legend like or they depreciate like lead balloons?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188

    I hate to admit it, but I find this puppy interesting...

    Looks inviting... and then I see that cursed shifter!!!!
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,867
    xwesx said:

    I hate to admit it, but I find this puppy interesting...

    Looks inviting... and then I see that cursed shifter!!!!
    Problematic, right?

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 165,536

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,504
    Been about 10 days since I fixed the axle boot, got the new battery & tire, and happy I did it all. Drives beautifully now and not spending upwards of $25K was the right thing to do at this juncture. Think I would've traded it if there was something out there now that I just had to have. But since there is nothing yet, just made sense to fix her and keep her for another year or so. Got a feeling the new GTI or Taos will be my choices for my next vehicle and hoping deep down that the Taos wins out. My spinal issues aren't getting any better and I like sliding in and out instead of falling into and pulling myself out.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188

    xwesx said:

    I hate to admit it, but I find this puppy interesting...

    Looks inviting... and then I see that cursed shifter!!!!
    Problematic, right?
    I am not a fan - it is just not an intuitive design.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188

    Been about 10 days since I fixed the axle boot, got the new battery & tire, and happy I did it all. Drives beautifully now and not spending upwards of $25K was the right thing to do at this juncture. Think I would've traded it if there was something out there now that I just had to have. But since there is nothing yet, just made sense to fix her and keep her for another year or so. Got a feeling the new GTI or Taos will be my choices for my next vehicle and hoping deep down that the Taos wins out. My spinal issues aren't getting any better and I like sliding in and out instead of falling into and pulling myself out.

    You are the best type of long-term owner. :D
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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721

    Been about 10 days since I fixed the axle boot, got the new battery & tire, and happy I did it all. Drives beautifully now and not spending upwards of $25K was the right thing to do at this juncture. Think I would've traded it if there was something out there now that I just had to have. But since there is nothing yet, just made sense to fix her and keep her for another year or so. Got a feeling the new GTI or Taos will be my choices for my next vehicle and hoping deep down that the Taos wins out. My spinal issues aren't getting any better and I like sliding in and out instead of falling into and pulling myself out.

    The back is why I don’t see you in a GTI long term. Low, stiff tide, and firm seats. The Taos seems like something that would function much better with your physical issues.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 171,264
    stickguy said:

    Been about 10 days since I fixed the axle boot, got the new battery & tire, and happy I did it all. Drives beautifully now and not spending upwards of $25K was the right thing to do at this juncture. Think I would've traded it if there was something out there now that I just had to have. But since there is nothing yet, just made sense to fix her and keep her for another year or so. Got a feeling the new GTI or Taos will be my choices for my next vehicle and hoping deep down that the Taos wins out. My spinal issues aren't getting any better and I like sliding in and out instead of falling into and pulling myself out.

    The back is why I don’t see you in a GTI long term. Low, stiff tide, and firm seats. The Taos seems like something that would function much better with your physical issues.
    Firm seats are good for the back. I agree with the rest of it, though.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    Depends on the seat and the back. The tight bolsters are sometimes an issue too. They also impact ingress/egress.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    edited October 26
    Nice positive review on the Taos. Looks like a good size to me. Though from what they compare it to, I think it probably looks bigger than it actually is.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,996
    Heated seats are also good for the back.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 171,264
    A friend of mine sold his 2011 Avalon with 135K miles for $9500. Prices are nuts.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 12,131
    I have never thought of the GTI as stiff. It's a pretty mellow ride.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,354
    andres3 said:

    I have never thought of the GTI as stiff. It's a pretty mellow ride.

    Compared to your modified TT, I’m sure it is a pretty mellow ride.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,304

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    oh man I love that one. Getting pricey already and will get worse.

    looks good as is, but would be so tempting to mildly restomod that!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,909
    edited October 26
    stickguy said:

    oh man I love that one. Getting pricey already and will get worse.

    looks good as is, but would be so tempting to mildly restomod that!

    LS swap? Would it fit?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    heresy. I would keep it Volvo. a later 4 banger, probably turbo, 5 speed, and upgraded steering, suspension and brakes. Something like that. Look stock, sleeper underneath.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    oh, no clue what fits. I have only seen later versions (usually 700s) with Ford 302 swaps. Not sure if 200 series works, but have never seen one in an amazon.

    probably falls into the category of, if you got enough money, you can do anything!

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,996
    I guess I'll have to put some money into fixing up my Mustang.
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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188
    qbrozen said:
    We had a 1956 Volvo P544 being stored in our quonset hut for many years. It was an incredibly beautiful car.
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 51,851
    With BaT continuing to be insane, a high dollar fintail (which for one would be like 30K+) has to come around any day now.

    A 56 Volvo would actually be a 444, almost identical to a 544, but much less common on this side of the pond. Easiest detail - 444 has a split windshield, 544 is one piece.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    that is a lovely Mustang. And crazy low miles. Too much money for something you really don't want to use much.

    this one, looks like fun. Should be able to drive it on the street, no problem.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-ford-mustang-boss-302-27/

    and posting this absurdity without commentary.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1976-mercury-comet-2/

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188
    fintail said:

    With BaT continuing to be insane, a high dollar fintail (which for one would be like 30K+) has to come around any day now.

    A 56 Volvo would actually be a 444, almost identical to a 544, but much less common on this side of the pond. Easiest detail - 444 has a split windshield, 544 is one piece.

    Oh, thanks. It did have split windshield. I recall it was glossy black exterior with a bright red, plush interior. It felt like a vault inside when you closed the door, and it had a perfect "click" sound as it latched.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188
    Speaking of insane....

    I love these old Scouts, but I really don't like the look of this drivetrain conversion; the proportions are all wrong on it.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,504
    That Taos short video was a real tease but, do like it in white! Put an ivory interior in it and I'm sold. Seriously, if it can fit on my side of the garage, that could possibly be my next ride. Like the proportions and also that it sits up a few inches. If it has as much ground clearance as my 2014 Hyundai Tucson was, Ingress/egress will not be an issue. Keep the length at around 172", and it'll definitely fit...hopefully the width will be just like my current Golf. MPG's won't really be an issue as my miles/year have gone down about 2/3 of what they once were and if I even do 5K this year, I'll be lucky. Hopefully the one I'd get won't be much over $27K as figure I'll still get something for my Golf on trade-in plus the sales tax savings.
    All in all, I really do like the new Taos and has moved to the top of my short list! Still want to check out the Mazda CX-30 to see how it compares. I know the top of the line Mazda has a Bose audio system and betting the Taos will go with the Beats audio system like they have in their top level vehicles. I will not compromise on that one item though a sun/moon roof would be another option I'd like but if not included, won't be a deal breaker. Refuse to do without the top audio system in my next ride. So, fixing the Golf was the best option for me at this juncture, and have no remorse whatsoever! Think deep down, I knew I was going to fix the axle boot regardless, as nothing in the current marketplace excited me to the point of making a switch. And, still get that [non-permissible content removed] eating grin whenever I turn the key!!!

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,504
    Just went online and ordered a front windshield protector from WeatherTech as an early birthday gift for myself. My current one is torn and ready to be replaced, so this time, wanted one that would fit the windshield perfectly. The current one keeps falling off on the passenger side and is getting annoying especially with the kind of heat we have here in South Florida. Looked on Amazon.com where I got the last one but either they were pricey or not sure how well they'd fit. Decided to just treat myself this time! Not sure how long it'll take to get here but went with the regular ground shipping as I can wait the time it takes. Anyways, our weather should be getting better very soon as the heat usually breaks a bit in the end of December, so we'll just have to wait and see. I'm so ready for some cooler temps and especially for the 2020 hurricane season to be over with!!
    Decided to not go cheap this time and get one that'll fit pretty well. Now, just need to do a winter detail as it's been awhile. And then, think we're done for the time being and all I want to do is just enjoy the ride!!!

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 1,063
    edited October 27

    That Taos short video was a real tease but, do like it in white! Put an ivory interior in it and I'm sold. Seriously, if it can fit on my side of the garage, that could possibly be my next ride. Like the proportions and also that it sits up a few inches. If it has as much ground clearance as my 2014 Hyundai Tucson was, Ingress/egress will not be an issue. Keep the length at around 172", and it'll definitely fit...hopefully the width will be just like my current Golf. MPG's won't really be an issue as my miles/year have gone down about 2/3 of what they once were and if I even do 5K this year, I'll be lucky. Hopefully the one I'd get won't be much over $27K as figure I'll still get something for my Golf on trade-in plus the sales tax savings.
    All in all, I really do like the new Taos and has moved to the top of my short list! Still want to check out the Mazda CX-30 to see how it compares. I know the top of the line Mazda has a Bose audio system and betting the Taos will go with the Beats audio system like they have in their top level vehicles. I will not compromise on that one item though a sun/moon roof would be another option I'd like but if not included, won't be a deal breaker. Refuse to do without the top audio system in my next ride. So, fixing the Golf was the best option for me at this juncture, and have no remorse whatsoever! Think deep down, I knew I was going to fix the axle boot regardless, as nothing in the current marketplace excited me to the point of making a switch. And, still get that [non-permissible content removed] eating grin whenever I turn the key!!!

    This shows Taos length as 175+ inches

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Taos

    This shows 174.2 inches


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/news/amp34210908/2022-volkswagen-taos-engine-specs/
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,304

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 52-car history and counting!

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,304
    Service rep finally called yesterday about the van. No word from corporate. He called and spoke with someone else who is escalating to a manager because this should have been done by now. Rep said he at least has all the parts on hand.

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 52-car history and counting!

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 11,129
    Wow, that's taking awhile. At least they gave you a loaner

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    the holy grail. I absolutely love that one, including the color.

    odd story. Took out a loan to buy it, put on 200 miles and sell it a month later? And zero service history, so need to budget a fair amount of $ to do all the expected items at that age/miles. So I wonder if someone bought it (likely overpaying) and found out the original owner did not bother with all the expensive stuff, and was selling it because it was about to become the money pit?

    Great car though for someone that knows these and can handle all the work themselves, since the body/interior seem good (and being a cali car, likely no rust).

    I imagine this one will go high. But if I ran into that same car local, and could have the BMW specialist 2 miles from my house PPI it, it would be the perfect 2nd car for me.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,354
    I happened to open Cars & Bids yesterday afternoon while waiting online at Dunkin' Donuts for my afternoon coffee (an donut too). I caught the last minute bidding on the 2019 Blue ///M4 Competition. Pretty cool what they do. If a bid is placed during the last minute (or maybe 2 minutes), the clock resets to another 60 seconds.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,354

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    nyccarguy said:

    I happened to open Cars & Bids yesterday afternoon while waiting online at Dunkin' Donuts for my afternoon coffee (an donut too). I caught the last minute bidding on the 2019 Blue ///M4 Competition. Pretty cool what they do. If a bid is placed during the last minute (or maybe 2 minutes), the clock resets to another 60 seconds.

    I watched one of them and saw that happening. Is pretty exciting, even when not bidding! What did that one end up going for?

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    nyccarguy said:
    I test drove one when they first came out. Quite the fun car, but definitely a different driving experience. Too bad they were such maintenance nightmares. A 15 YO one is scary.

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