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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,067
    I’m not a Volvo enthusiast but I like the looks of that. I’ve given up commenting on prices since we entered the used car Twilight zone.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,936
    nyccarguy said:

    Interesting time we are living through to say the least. I just got quoted $749/month with $800 DAS for 24 months/19,500 miles per year with 6.35% tax rolled into the payment for a 2021 Explorer XLT. MSRP of $43,955 with a selling price of $42,455 (sticker minus rebate). Marked up interest rate (0.6%) as opposed to the buy rate of 0.15%.

    Hey, the quote button is back!!! :)

    In regards to your lease quote, that is a lot of miles (19,500 per year), and a short term (24 months). I believe the more common scenario is 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, which should be less. But probably still way too d___ high.
    2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,067

    henryn said:


    I just saw a lengthy YouTube video posted by a pro detailer. He tested a whole bucket full of synthetic and ceramic waxes. Some weren’t worth the bottle they came in. But, he was amazed that Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic Wax did so well, and was his winner of the “shoot out”. It was cheap, too.

    @graphicguy
    Would you post the link to the review. Sounds interesting.


    Let me see if I can chase it down. I didn’t make a note of which site had the tests, but it was pretty extensive with a lot of brands in the test.

    It was one of those nights where I got deep into the YouTube Rabbit hole.
    Perhaps this one?



    It fits. Thanks.

    When I looked on Turtle Wax's website I found lots of products with ceramic in the name, so I was curious which was a really good product.
    https://turtlewax.com/collections/wax-seal-coat
    Interesting that now I've seen the video, the Mothers, Brazilian wax I last used along with a Mothers spray detailer actually do pretty well until the video person starts abusing the finishes.
    In re the Mothers Brazilian, there are two steps in the Mothers line that are to be used ahead of that product which might make it even more resiliant. I think it's part of a 3-step process. i went through that 3-step stuff ONCE and was done with all that work. Too much work.

    I went through the agony of Mother’s 3-step wax years ago and it looked good. Then I found Turtle Wax Wash and Wax which worked even better and never looked back.
    For a real shine I use Meguires Ultimate Fast Finish after a wash. Seems to shine the best.
    I’ve come to the conclusion that ease of application is worth more than an extra little bit of shine.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,126
    nyccarguy said:

    Interesting time we are living through to say the least. I just got quoted $749/month with $800 DAS for 24 months/19,500 miles per year with 6.35% tax rolled into the payment for a 2021 Explorer XLT. MSRP of $43,955 with a selling price of $42,455 (sticker minus rebate). Marked up interest rate (0.6%) as opposed to the buy rate of 0.15%.

    If you bought it with no money down and put it over 72 months at that interest rate I think your payment would be something like $630/mo.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,936



    I went through the agony of Mother’s 3-step wax years ago and it looked good. Then I found Turtle Wax Wash and Wax which worked even better and never looked back.
    For a real shine I use Meguires Ultimate Fast Finish after a wash. Seems to shine the best.
    I’ve come to the conclusion that ease of application is worth more than an extra little bit of shine.

    I tend to agree with you when it's me doing the heavy lifting. But around here, I can get a hand wash and wax for around $25. I supply the place and all equipment, someone else provides the labor. Everyone is happy, and my car looks really good.

    2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,047
    Quick rodo check, a $42,200 sticker XLT IS $733/$733 for 24 months, 18k/year miles.

    So in the ballpark!

    That will pay for a lot of oil changes on the Pilot!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 7,749
    Or just buy it and finance it.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,468
    nyccarguy said:

    Interesting time we are living through to say the least. I just got quoted $749/month with $800 DAS for 24 months/19,500 miles per year with 6.35% tax rolled into the payment for a 2021 Explorer XLT. MSRP of $43,955 with a selling price of $42,455 (sticker minus rebate). Marked up interest rate (0.6%) as opposed to the buy rate of 0.15%.

    Probably cheaper to buy, especially if you can tough it out and keep it longer than 24 months.
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,105
    edited May 11

    Wow! Did they say that with a straight face?

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,142
    Given the market, I doubt any 3 row SUV’s are leasing well. The Pilot had some good programs when I was interested last month and the Highlander typically does but the latter was too snug which I can see. Be patient, shop around etc…Is there a broker on LH that has anything that fits the bill?

    2008 Toyota Land Cruiser White over Tan
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 14,911
    nyccarguy said:

    Interesting time we are living through to say the least. I just got quoted $749/month with $800 DAS for 24 months/19,500 miles per year with 6.35% tax rolled into the payment for a 2021 Explorer XLT. MSRP of $43,955 with a selling price of $42,455 (sticker minus rebate). Marked up interest rate (0.6%) as opposed to the buy rate of 0.15%.

    Boo.... hiss.... :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 14,911
    henryn said:

    nyccarguy said:

    Interesting time we are living through to say the least. I just got quoted $749/month with $800 DAS for 24 months/19,500 miles per year with 6.35% tax rolled into the payment for a 2021 Explorer XLT. MSRP of $43,955 with a selling price of $42,455 (sticker minus rebate). Marked up interest rate (0.6%) as opposed to the buy rate of 0.15%.

    Hey, the quote button is back!!! :)

    In regards to your lease quote, that is a lot of miles (19,500 per year), and a short term (24 months). I believe the more common scenario is 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, which should be less. But probably still way too d___ high.
    Yeah, $500 off MSRP for a Ford anything is just too darn high. @nyccarguy would be spitting splinters for months if he took that "deal." :(
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,936
    xwesx said:

    henryn said:

    nyccarguy said:

    Interesting time we are living through to say the least. I just got quoted $749/month with $800 DAS for 24 months/19,500 miles per year with 6.35% tax rolled into the payment for a 2021 Explorer XLT. MSRP of $43,955 with a selling price of $42,455 (sticker minus rebate). Marked up interest rate (0.6%) as opposed to the buy rate of 0.15%.

    Hey, the quote button is back!!! :)

    In regards to your lease quote, that is a lot of miles (19,500 per year), and a short term (24 months). I believe the more common scenario is 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, which should be less. But probably still way too d___ high.
    Yeah, $500 off MSRP for a Ford anything is just too darn high. @nyccarguy would be spitting splinters for months if he took that "deal." :(
    Those are the times we are living in. But there are a few bright spots out there. I just received an email ad from a local VW dealer. He has 41 Tiguan's in stock, new leftover 2020 models starting at $21,891, and 2021 models at $23,272.

    https://www.momentumvolkswagen.com/new-inventory/index.htm?utm_source=elead&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sales_2021-05-11&model=Tiguan
    2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,936
    I was out running errands this afternoon, and left the Pacifica sitting in a parking lot for about an hour. 2 o'clock in the afternoon, 90 degrees in the shade, god knows what in the direct sunlight. When I got back in, the stale cigarette smell had returned. I'm running the ozone generator again, have it set to run 90 minutes this time, but engine not on, A/C not running.
    2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • jpp75jpp75 DenverMember Posts: 1,454



    If you like old Cavaliers there are some around that are cheaper but still not cheap.
    https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/oneco-1999-z24-cavalier-conv-original/7317439266.html

    My first new car was a 1992 Z24 Cavalier, GM at it's worst....so no I don't like old Cavaliers. Out of the 22 cars I've owned it ranks dead last, by a very wide margin.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,047
    must be some Hyundais on the lots. Got an email from my local dealer with some pretty strong lease offers. mostly lower line stuff, but one I almost called on was a Kona AWD unlimited. backing out the $500 first responder rebate it was ~$244/month sign and drive. Sticker was about $30K. That is a nice car for that price and well loaded.

    though looks like the unit is gone and only FWD versions now listed (4 unlimiteds).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 14,911
    edited May 11
    henryn said:

    I was out running errands this afternoon, and left the Pacifica sitting in a parking lot for about an hour. 2 o'clock in the afternoon, 90 degrees in the shade, god knows what in the direct sunlight. When I got back in, the stale cigarette smell had returned. I'm running the ozone generator again, have it set to run 90 minutes this time, but engine not on, A/C not running.

    Yeah, that's one thing that just doesn't go away. You can get rid of a lot of smells, but cigarette smoke and dog are not among them. :(

    Even after substantial and repeated cleanings, my cars that had once been used as kennels would always smell strongly of dog after sitting on hot days.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 53,465
    A shame period GM products could be so coarse, as some of them look kind of cool in their own way. A couple blocks from me there's an immaculate blue early 90s Z24 convertible, white top, original wheels with directional spokes, pretty rare thing now.
    jpp75 said:



    If you like old Cavaliers there are some around that are cheaper but still not cheap.
    https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/oneco-1999-z24-cavalier-conv-original/7317439266.html

    My first new car was a 1992 Z24 Cavalier, GM at it's worst....so no I don't like old Cavaliers. Out of the 22 cars I've owned it ranks dead last, by a very wide margin.
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,487
    I will maybe forgive Denon for their past transgressions with very poor after warranty support on a high-end product because they keep making incredibly good products in the audio entertainment world (both 2-channel integrated amps and flagship receivers). I might end my grudge against them; thinking about it.

    I don't know that I'll ever be able to forgive Chrysler/Dodge. I might be able to forgive the other "Big 2" that were held in contempt and guilty by "association."
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,255

    Well, it is FWD, but gotta admit that a CPO wagon with so dew miles is damned tempting at this price.
    https://www.prestigevolvocarsenglewood.com/certified/Volvo/2017-Volvo-V60-fe8bea2e0a0e0a6b1d240ca6f809e373.htm

    Is this worth 50% more? Eh, probably not, but that is a fantastic color combo and a supercharged v6 is compelling.
    https://www.unionparkjaguar.com/used/Jaguar/2017-Jaguar-F-PACE-1476f1ff0a0e0adf3818e59c50436486.htm

    And, well, this is just sexy. And a TT V6.
    https://www.islandautomall.com/certified/Maserati/2016-Maserati-Ghibli-8c38adbe0a0e0ae7076dc2dbf4257c70.htm

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 54-car history and counting!

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 14,911
    qbrozen said:
    Uh oh. He's looking! This means something... this is important....
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,744
    qbrozen said:

    Well, it is FWD, but gotta admit that a CPO wagon with so dew miles is damned tempting at this price.
    https://www.prestigevolvocarsenglewood.com/certified/Volvo/2017-Volvo-V60-fe8bea2e0a0e0a6b1d240ca6f809e373.htm

    Is this worth 50% more? Eh, probably not, but that is a fantastic color combo and a supercharged v6 is compelling.
    https://www.unionparkjaguar.com/used/Jaguar/2017-Jaguar-F-PACE-1476f1ff0a0e0adf3818e59c50436486.htm

    And, well, this is just sexy. And a TT V6.
    https://www.islandautomall.com/certified/Maserati/2016-Maserati-Ghibli-8c38adbe0a0e0ae7076dc2dbf4257c70.htm

    You do have an eye for some nice cars. I like the miles, color combo, & price on the Volvo. I'm not a huge Volvo fan, but really like these particular V60s.

    The Jag looks sharp. If you have an opportunity to buy a Supercharged V6 SUV in British Racing Green (if that's the colour), go for it. That interior is WAAAAAY to light for my tastes.

    What's not to like about a Maserati (except that you have to buy it from a Mitsubishi dealer)?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,067
    henryn said:

    I was out running errands this afternoon, and left the Pacifica sitting in a parking lot for about an hour. 2 o'clock in the afternoon, 90 degrees in the shade, god knows what in the direct sunlight. When I got back in, the stale cigarette smell had returned. I'm running the ozone generator again, have it set to run 90 minutes this time, but engine not on, A/C not running.

    Maybe that’s the best time to run your machine. Let it cook in the sun and release all the smoke molecules so the ozone can get at it.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,067
    xwesx said:

    qbrozen said:
    Uh oh. He's looking! This means something... this is important....
    LOL, yeah, you don’t need to be a mind reader to see where this is going.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusMember Posts: 13,085
    edited May 12
    henryn said:


    I just saw a lengthy YouTube video posted by a pro detailer. He tested a whole bucket full of synthetic and ceramic waxes. Some weren’t worth the bottle they came in. But, he was amazed that Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic Wax did so well, and was his winner of the “shoot out”. It was cheap, too.

    @graphicguy
    Would you post the link to the review. Sounds interesting.


    Let me see if I can chase it down. I didn’t make a note of which site had the tests, but it was pretty extensive with a lot of brands in the test.

    It was one of those nights where I got deep into the YouTube Rabbit hole.
    Perhaps this one?



    That’s the one!
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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,346
    Does the ceramic coating hide small imperfections? He didn't mention that or any gloss improvement, only durability under his contrived test.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,047
    JRgo said recently they have some filler so it can smooth out scratches.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,047
    Other than he color combo, I love the Volvo wagon.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,142
    edited May 12
    Oil change at the dealer this morning. Really cruddy weather so no lot wandering but inside they had a couple of Highlanders in a nice dark blue. XLE’s stickering at $46 and $48k. Nice looking but I get what @nyccarguy was saying. It is noticeably smaller than the Pilot.

    A few RAV4’s. Nice enough looking but not on my radar so didn’t check price.

    To show how thin inventory is, a 2018 Tacoma in orange made the showroom floor. TRD Off Road 2wd with 47.5k miles for $33.4k.

    The head scratcher was a Sequoia Platinum 4wd. Nice enough looking in black over gray but a $76k sticker! I felt like being cheeky and telling them I’m a player at $50k.

    2008 Toyota Land Cruiser White over Tan
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,255
    Small issue with the volvo is someone goofed when entering the miles and carfax has it at 23k, while the pics show it is still at 20k. Going to trigger a potential rollback event unless we have them fudge the odo statement.

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 54-car history and counting!

  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,936
    qbrozen said:

    Small issue with the volvo is someone goofed when entering the miles and carfax has it at 23k, while the pics show it is still at 20k. Going to trigger a potential rollback event unless we have them fudge the odo statement.

    How long ago did Carfax record the miles at 23k? If it was a decent amount of time (say 6 months or so), then you really have no idea how many miles are on that car. If it was a few weeks, then you can feel reasonably sure that it's at or around 23k. With all of the penalties involved these days, I fail to see why anyone would "roll back" an odometer by only 3k miles.

    I do NOT want to go back to the days when 9 out of 10 used cars showed low mileage thanks to odometer rollbacks. Everyone used to think cars were completely worn out at 100k miles as you almost never saw a car with that many miles showing. Back when I was quite young, still living at home, and my father was working as a dealership mechanic, one of his friends / co-workers started his own business. He traveled around to used car lots and rolled back odometers.
    2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 15,825
    Rolling back electronic odometers is not difficult.
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT, 2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,047

    Rolling back electronic odometers is not difficult.

    Harder to erase all traces from every module though. I know Carly has a feature where it can check everyplace looking for it.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,255
    henryn said:

    qbrozen said:

    Small issue with the volvo is someone goofed when entering the miles and carfax has it at 23k, while the pics show it is still at 20k. Going to trigger a potential rollback event unless we have them fudge the odo statement.

    How long ago did Carfax record the miles at 23k? If it was a decent amount of time (say 6 months or so), then you really have no idea how many miles are on that car. If it was a few weeks, then you can feel reasonably sure that it's at or around 23k. With all of the penalties involved these days, I fail to see why anyone would "roll back" an odometer by only 3k miles.

    I do NOT want to go back to the days when 9 out of 10 used cars showed low mileage thanks to odometer rollbacks. Everyone used to think cars were completely worn out at 100k miles as you almost never saw a car with that many miles showing. Back when I was quite young, still living at home, and my father was working as a dealership mechanic, one of his friends / co-workers started his own business. He traveled around to used car lots and rolled back odometers.
    Like I said, I think someone just fat-fingered the entry. But I've seen that before on carfax reports and it just says "potential rollback!" even when it is obvious it was a clerical error.

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 54-car history and counting!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,468
    qbrozen said:

    henryn said:

    qbrozen said:

    Small issue with the volvo is someone goofed when entering the miles and carfax has it at 23k, while the pics show it is still at 20k. Going to trigger a potential rollback event unless we have them fudge the odo statement.

    How long ago did Carfax record the miles at 23k? If it was a decent amount of time (say 6 months or so), then you really have no idea how many miles are on that car. If it was a few weeks, then you can feel reasonably sure that it's at or around 23k. With all of the penalties involved these days, I fail to see why anyone would "roll back" an odometer by only 3k miles.

    I do NOT want to go back to the days when 9 out of 10 used cars showed low mileage thanks to odometer rollbacks. Everyone used to think cars were completely worn out at 100k miles as you almost never saw a car with that many miles showing. Back when I was quite young, still living at home, and my father was working as a dealership mechanic, one of his friends / co-workers started his own business. He traveled around to used car lots and rolled back odometers.
    Like I said, I think someone just fat-fingered the entry. But I've seen that before on carfax reports and it just says "potential rollback!" even when it is obvious it was a clerical error.
    That happened to Scott Adams, the Dilbert creator, on a BMW he owned and caused him loads of grief when he wanted to trade it in. I can't remember how that ever worked out.
  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,936
    corvette said:

    qbrozen said:

    henryn said:

    qbrozen said:

    Small issue with the volvo is someone goofed when entering the miles and carfax has it at 23k, while the pics show it is still at 20k. Going to trigger a potential rollback event unless we have them fudge the odo statement.

    How long ago did Carfax record the miles at 23k? If it was a decent amount of time (say 6 months or so), then you really have no idea how many miles are on that car. If it was a few weeks, then you can feel reasonably sure that it's at or around 23k. With all of the penalties involved these days, I fail to see why anyone would "roll back" an odometer by only 3k miles.

    I do NOT want to go back to the days when 9 out of 10 used cars showed low mileage thanks to odometer rollbacks. Everyone used to think cars were completely worn out at 100k miles as you almost never saw a car with that many miles showing. Back when I was quite young, still living at home, and my father was working as a dealership mechanic, one of his friends / co-workers started his own business. He traveled around to used car lots and rolled back odometers.
    Like I said, I think someone just fat-fingered the entry. But I've seen that before on carfax reports and it just says "potential rollback!" even when it is obvious it was a clerical error.
    That happened to Scott Adams, the Dilbert creator, on a BMW he owned and caused him loads of grief when he wanted to trade it in. I can't remember how that ever worked out.
    All I could find, and it doesn't tell us how it ended.
    https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/02/scott-adams-finds-ttac-readers-already-know/

    Be advised, the author of the above linked article appears to be a bit xenophobic.

    2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,067
    stickguy said:

    Rolling back electronic odometers is not difficult.

    Harder to erase all traces from every module though. I know Carly has a feature where it can check everyplace looking for it.
    That’s interesting. Do you have a reference source for that?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,067
    henryn said:

    corvette said:

    qbrozen said:

    henryn said:

    qbrozen said:

    Small issue with the volvo is someone goofed when entering the miles and carfax has it at 23k, while the pics show it is still at 20k. Going to trigger a potential rollback event unless we have them fudge the odo statement.

    How long ago did Carfax record the miles at 23k? If it was a decent amount of time (say 6 months or so), then you really have no idea how many miles are on that car. If it was a few weeks, then you can feel reasonably sure that it's at or around 23k. With all of the penalties involved these days, I fail to see why anyone would "roll back" an odometer by only 3k miles.

    I do NOT want to go back to the days when 9 out of 10 used cars showed low mileage thanks to odometer rollbacks. Everyone used to think cars were completely worn out at 100k miles as you almost never saw a car with that many miles showing. Back when I was quite young, still living at home, and my father was working as a dealership mechanic, one of his friends / co-workers started his own business. He traveled around to used car lots and rolled back odometers.
    Like I said, I think someone just fat-fingered the entry. But I've seen that before on carfax reports and it just says "potential rollback!" even when it is obvious it was a clerical error.
    That happened to Scott Adams, the Dilbert creator, on a BMW he owned and caused him loads of grief when he wanted to trade it in. I can't remember how that ever worked out.
    All I could find, and it doesn't tell us how it ended.
    https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/02/scott-adams-finds-ttac-readers-already-know/

    Be advised, the author of the above linked article appears to be a bit xenophobic.

    You have to check your order at Mickey D’s too.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,047
    From their website. I’ve seen videos where they actually ran it to show results.

    With the Used Car Check feature you’ll know if the car mileage was manipulated and more.

    How it works:

    Those who reduce car mileage can sell the vehicle for almost $5,000 more than the actual value. Carly sources km/mileage/lifetime data and VIN from different ECUs (control units) of your car to detect cases of manipulation and tampering.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,067
    Colonial pipeline is back online. Let’s see if prices fall as fast as they went up.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 15,825
    It's going to take some time to refill all the gas station tanks,
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT, 2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1
  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,936
    edited May 12

    Colonial pipeline is back online. Let’s see if prices fall as fast as they went up.

    Yeah, I wonder if they paid the ransom or just found a way to work around the hack. The more companies pay the ranson, the more attacks there will be.

    On edit: found this on CNN:

    The group, previously identified as DarkSide, demanded nearly $5 million, two sources familiar with the incident said.

    But it is looking like Colonial Pipeline will not have to pay up. The company, working with US government officials, has managed to retrieve the most important data that was stolen, according to a person familiar with the response. The person said the data was not retrieved from the hackers via a ransomware payment, but by leveraging the attackers' use of intermediary servers within the United States to store the stolen information.
    2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,047

    It's going to take some time to refill all the gas station tanks,

    my wife was out this morning for a doctors appointment. Said no lines at the gas stations she passed. I'll probably be at about 1/2 a tank tomorrow after I get back from a trip to the vets. next time I am out without the dog will stop someplace. just in case!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,744

    This is the gas station 1/2 block down from my store.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 7,749

    You know what I don’t want? Plastic bags and water bottles full of highly flammable gasoline in my garage.

    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
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