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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 3,794
    Cribbed from Cars and Convos:
    Greetings, all!
    For those who purchased new plugins, did you receive the Fed tax credit? If so, did you have to supply any "proof" with your return, e.g. a letter from the manufacturer/dealer certifying your purchase of an eligible vehicle? Looking ahead to my '21 return for the A7 PHEV. I'll research, but I find most of the knowledge of the universe is contained in this (or CCBA) forum...

    I'm so looking forward to 2 car garage next year (with a 240v outlet!), now that Spring done sprung, the neighborhood sprinklers are running. You know what that's doing to my (very) dark blue car on those most frequent nights when the wife's silver CX-5 is enjoying the garage!

    Appreciate any input on the Fed tax credit submission.

    A fond, but bittersweet adieu to my '13 Jaguar XF. And so, I present this laurel, and hearty handshake to the new boss; '21 Audi A7 PHEV. '09 Jag XK , '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco ; all special to me. And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... I've yet to buy a car I didn't like. Although, do I really want to drive a car that would have someone such as me as its owner?

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,010
    did you end up having the builder install the charging station (or I guess at least the outlet) for you?

    one thing about my current house. If I do get a plug in EV, the electric panel for the house is in the garage, just inside the door of my side (the left as you look up the driveway). So if the charging point is on the driver's side rear flank, I really just need an outlet installed about a foot from the box and a 3' cord from that to the car! Or the charging station, however that works. Should be cheap and easy!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,462
    That's one of the things I miss about my old house with the 24 x 24' attached garage... The 200A electrical panel was in the garage, so adding a charger, inside or out, would have been trivial.
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,344
    corvette said:

    That's one of the things I miss about my old house with the 24 x 24' attached garage... The 200A electrical panel was in the garage, so adding a charger, inside or out, would have been trivial.

    That’s the size of our garage and the electrical panel is on the back wall far right. One thing I did right when we built the house was to have a dedicated circuit for the fridge and added additional electrical wall outlets. The builder only included one wall outlet.

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  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,919
    My house was built in 2005 to HUD standards, which means there are electrical outlets and natural gas hookups for pretty much everything. Hot water heater, clothes dryer, cook stove, etc. I have a natural gas clothes dryer, so there is an unused 30 amp 220V outlet right there in the garage.
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,096

    @corvette said:
    That's one of the things I miss about my old house with the 24 x 24' attached garage... The 200A electrical panel was in the garage, so adding a charger, inside or out, would have been trivial.

    Yeah if I went electric it would be an hour job to add a 220 charging plug with the panel in the garage.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 3,794
    We visit the "design center" (or as I call it, "The burning ring of fire" ) in June/July to begin spec'ing out the upgrades she'll want. At that time, I'll ask if the builder can install the 240v/50a outlet in the garage; based upon answer and price I'll move forward from there.
    But, not sure I need a charging station, too. The Audi came with a charging cord that has an adapter for a 240v outlet. I believe that I can simply use that. But, a charging station would add convenience. Initially, if I do go charging station, I wouldn't hard wire it, just hang it and plug it in to receptacle. If we move, gives me the option of taking it with me.

    A fond, but bittersweet adieu to my '13 Jaguar XF. And so, I present this laurel, and hearty handshake to the new boss; '21 Audi A7 PHEV. '09 Jag XK , '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco ; all special to me. And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... I've yet to buy a car I didn't like. Although, do I really want to drive a car that would have someone such as me as its owner?

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,010
    I have no clue how that tech works. If the car controls the charging, or the box. But if the cord can plug right into the outlet, should be cheaper!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,010
    good news. can't wait for a driving report!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,048
    qbrozen said:

    Well, good sign... the newest part seems to have fixed the Benz. Started her up and finally had no codes. Could only run it for a minute because I need to change the oil, tighten the water pump (probably replace the gasket), and get all the hoses and wires tucked away. But all other startups have had immediate rough running, stalling, and multiple codes. Crazy that one little metal ring could cause all those problems. I guess it is possible the whole unit was bad or clogged in some way and the missing ring was just a visual cue and not really the cause, but it is what it is.

    Sad that I have so little free time that it took me this long. My weekends will free up a little in a couple of weeks after martial arts training takes a hiatus, so that will be nice. Although my little one is currently playing on 2 baseball teams, as well, so that hasn’t been conducive to getting chores done, either. But I don’t think the season could be much longer for those.

    Does this mean that the Maserati is a no go?

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  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,919
    Now this is interesting.

    https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/league-city-2010-volkswagen-passat/7308253932.html

    A 2010 Passat, looks very clean in the pictures. I believe that was the last year model which came with the good 2.0T engine, not the newer watered down engine. And the DSG transmission.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,010
    I assume it is an optical illusion, but it looks like it is lifted in the rear like a 71 Camaro with a set of Gabriel HiJackers shocks.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,110
    The stance does look odd, maybe it is the angle of the picture. I find it funny that the seller claims they don’t use it enough. It’s averaged 10,000 miles a year.

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  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,919
    ab348 said:

    The stance does look odd, maybe it is the angle of the picture. I find it funny that the seller claims they don’t use it enough. It’s averaged 10,000 miles a year.

    Circumstances do change. My wife bought a 2008 Passat (very similar to this one) new, and drove it for 4 years until it was paid for. After 48 months, it had right at 100k miles, or 25k per year. I took over the car at that time as a secondary vehicle, and over the next 12 months it accumulated less than 5k miles. So yes, I find that quite believable.
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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,783

    @laurasdada - not sure if you already got the info you needed, but if memory serves, you just need to include a copy of the sales order for your PHEV or EV along with the completed IRS form.

    Nothing too in depth.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 14,708

    As I posted in RWTIV:
    So I went and looked at the M2. The Cadillac store was closed so I just did a walk around. It does look brand new(which it should) More weirdness: it has the $2,500 M Drivers Package which got the PO a day at the BMW PC and a 174 mph top speed(instead of the silly 155 mph limiter). I’m at least going to test drive it, although having to negotiate with that flakey dealer is discouraging.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,010
    I assume that is just a symbolic annoyance? And that any track you would do a HPDE at wouldn't let anyone go over 155 anyway?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,240

    @roadburner said:
    As I posted in RWTIV:
    So I went and looked at the M2. The Cadillac store was closed so I just did a walk around. It does look brand new(which it should) More weirdness: it has the $2,500 M Drivers Package which got the PO a day at the BMW PC and a 174 mph top speed(instead of the silly 155 mph limiter). I’m at least going to test drive it, although having to negotiate with that flakey dealer is discouraging.

    I wonder where people think they are legally and safely going to be able to break 155. Even the highest top speed at Laguna Seca at this year’s Best Driver’s Car, as set by Randy Pobst in a Ferrari F8 Tributo, was 148 mph.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 14,708
    stickguy said:

    I assume that is just a symbolic annoyance? And that any track you would do a HPDE at wouldn't let anyone go over 155 anyway?

    The only CCA school with a speed limit that I know of is the Windy City school at Road America- and that's only in one sector(that had a penchant for spectacular "incidents"). I saw 130 at Putnam in my MS3 without trying hard; I'd be surprised if you couldn't top 160 easily at Mid Ohio or Watkins Glen- and almost certainly at COTA.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,462
    What about on an oval? Well before there were cameras rolling 24/7 everywhere and heightened security, I recall a family member telling a story of finding a gate unlocked at Indy and taking a lap.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,240

    @roadburner said:
    The only CCA school with a speed limit that I know of is the Windy City school at Road America- and that's only in one sector(that had a penchant for spectacular "incidents"). I saw 130 at Putnam in my MS3 without trying hard; I'd be surprised if you couldn't top 160 easily at Mid Ohio or Watkins Glen- and almost certainly at COTA.

    Sure... in a supercar.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusMember Posts: 13,085
    ab348 said:

    The stance does look odd, maybe it is the angle of the picture. I find it funny that the seller claims they don’t use it enough. It’s averaged 10,000 miles a year.

    Thought the same thing. Probably nothing, but why lie about that?
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  • sb55sb55 On an Island in VermontMember Posts: 531

    stickguy said:

    I assume that is just a symbolic annoyance? And that any track you would do a HPDE at wouldn't let anyone go over 155 anyway?

    The only CCA school with a speed limit that I know of is the Windy City school at Road America- and that's only in one sector(that had a penchant for spectacular "incidents"). I saw 130 at Putnam in my MS3 without trying hard; I'd be surprised if you couldn't top 160 easily at Mid Ohio or Watkins Glen- and almost certainly at COTA.
    Before I moved to VT, I used to HPDE in my Porsche 944T. Non S, so 217 HP. Suspension was set up, but stock motor. I hit +/-150 mph at Bridghampton (the greatest track that is now a golf course), Lime Rock, Watkins Glen and Pocono road course. 930's could pass me on the straights, but I would catch them in the corners :)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,240

    @sb55 said:
    Before I moved to VT, I used to HPDE in my Porsche 944T. Non S, so 217 HP. Suspension was set up, but stock motor. I hit +/-150 mph at Bridghampton (the greatest track that is now a golf course), Lime Rock, Watkins Glen and Pocono road course. 930's could pass me on the straights, but I would catch them in the corners :)

    How long was that straight? Sorry to say, but Maybe broken speedometer. Or that had a crazy long straight that no longer exists anywhere else. Just research some of the tests all over the interwebs. 150 in a production car is not common in the least.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,783
    @roadburner - I haven’t paid attention to the M2 market for a couple months now. That’s basically the price of a new one, right? Not that you can get a new one at the moment, so I suppose this is the next best thing.

    I imagine you could save thousands by going with a gently used 2019 or 2020, but nothing has popped up that strikes your fancy?

    In any case, that one is beautiful. I like the LBB, but the Hockenheim is stunning in person.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,783
    So my 16 year old gets his driver’s license this week. And that’s it - all the kids have their licenses (well, the ones who are able to get a license).

    So is it weird that after all these years of ferrying around kids to school, sports, friends houses, etc....I’m a bit sad?

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,137
    breld said:

    So my 16 year old gets his driver’s license this week. And that’s it - all the kids have their licenses (well, the ones who are able to get a license).

    So is it weird that after all these years of ferrying around kids to school, sports, friends houses, etc....I’m a bit sad?

    That happens to us in late January. I genuinely do not know what I am going to do with my time. Any yes, I’m already getting sad.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,010
    Breld, when the kids started driving themselves it certainly cut down on my miles. I did miss it. And still not sure why I don’t have lots more productive free time with them gone!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 14,708

    As I’ve said, In my stock MS3 I easily hit 130 mph on the front straight at Putnam- and I was one of the low key instructors who didn’t shoot for fastest lap in every session.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 14,708
    edited May 17

    @breld Yes, it’s not a good deal at $65k, but I believe $61k would be a decent price. As you know, M2 Comp prices are all over the place. The BMW Store in Cincinnati has a 2019 Hockenheim Silver car I may look at for $62.5k. It has 8.5k miles on it. Unfortunately, the BMW Store usually doesn’t deal much on their used cars.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,010
    Make an offer. Worst that happens is they say no.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 53,448
    edited May 17
    This was posted on another forum Pardon me? I doubt this thing was over 20K new, 5 years and 80K miles ago.

    At least something out there is just as stupid as housing prices. Would look good parked in front of a 500K house that was 250K in 2016.
  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,919

    ab348 said:

    The stance does look odd, maybe it is the angle of the picture. I find it funny that the seller claims they don’t use it enough. It’s averaged 10,000 miles a year.

    Thought the same thing. Probably nothing, but why lie about that?
    It doesn't strike me that way. Sure, the seller could be a "curbstoner", but there's not nearly enough there to jump to that conclusion. My guess, and I believe it's more likely, is that after several years of use as a daily driver, the car was relegated to backup duty. I have done exactly that before, it's not very unusual.

    I do intend to go look at the car this evening (if my sick dog doesn't get worse), and I'll know more then. If the car is what it appears to be in the pictures (other than the stance!), I will ask for a look at the title. That will give away all "curbstoners", and those who only obtained the car to try and flip it.
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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,344
    henryn said:

    Now this is interesting.

    https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/league-city-2010-volkswagen-passat/7308253932.html

    A 2010 Passat, looks very clean in the pictures. I believe that was the last year model which came with the good 2.0T engine, not the newer watered down engine. And the DSG transmission.

    Looks nice. I really liked my 06 Passat 2.0t. I thought the 2010 Passat had the 6sp Aisin sourced automatic like my 06 had.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,344
    nyccarguy said:

    I found a very mildly optioned ($43,475 MSRP) Explorer XLT not too far away from me that fits the bill. White (not my favorite color)/Black Interior with 18" Wheels (not the optional 20s), Captain's Chairs, The Tow Hitch, The Twin Panel Glass Moonroof, & The Pro Pilot 360 Assist+. I googled the dealership and emailed the sales person who has positive reviews. I wrote him a detailed email with most of the pertinent information (stock number, lease term & miles, I have excellent credit, details about my trade) he needs to provide me with a price. I tell him I can take delivery either this week or next.

    I received an email back requesting my zip code & the VIN on my Pilot. I provide it to him.

    Next I get an email asking me if I owe money on the Pilot (not sure what this has to do with anything). I reply yes along with the loan balance, who it is financed through, and that I got an offer from ALGO to buy it for $25K.

    I'll let you know how the story unfolds.

    It amazes me how a relatively straight forward transaction can be made so complicated. It would seem to me they could have provided you an answer from the initial information you provided. Good Luck!

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,137
    nyccarguy said:

    I found a very mildly optioned ($43,475 MSRP) Explorer XLT not too far away from me that fits the bill. White (not my favorite color)/Black Interior with 18" Wheels (not the optional 20s), Captain's Chairs, The Tow Hitch, The Twin Panel Glass Moonroof, & The Pro Pilot 360 Assist+. I googled the dealership and emailed the sales person who has positive reviews. I wrote him a detailed email with most of the pertinent information (stock number, lease term & miles, I have excellent credit, details about my trade) he needs to provide me with a price. I tell him I can take delivery either this week or next.

    I received an email back requesting my zip code & the VIN on my Pilot. I provide it to him.

    Next I get an email asking me if I owe money on the Pilot (not sure what this has to do with anything). I reply yes along with the loan balance, who it is financed through, and that I got an offer from ALGO to buy it for $25K.

    I'll let you know how the story unfolds.

    I can see needing your zip to see if there are any incentives. Not sure on the VIN. A customer would be foolish to tell them they have a Pilot Elite when its really an LX. Not sure what your payoff has to do with it.

    Good luck! Let’s hope this dealer isn’t a Richard.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 190,788
    au1994 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    I found a very mildly optioned ($43,475 MSRP) Explorer XLT not too far away from me that fits the bill. White (not my favorite color)/Black Interior with 18" Wheels (not the optional 20s), Captain's Chairs, The Tow Hitch, The Twin Panel Glass Moonroof, & The Pro Pilot 360 Assist+. I googled the dealership and emailed the sales person who has positive reviews. I wrote him a detailed email with most of the pertinent information (stock number, lease term & miles, I have excellent credit, details about my trade) he needs to provide me with a price. I tell him I can take delivery either this week or next.

    I received an email back requesting my zip code & the VIN on my Pilot. I provide it to him.

    Next I get an email asking me if I owe money on the Pilot (not sure what this has to do with anything). I reply yes along with the loan balance, who it is financed through, and that I got an offer from ALGO to buy it for $25K.

    I'll let you know how the story unfolds.

    I can see needing your zip to see if there are any incentives. Not sure on the VIN. A customer would be foolish to tell them they have a Pilot Elite when its really an LX. Not sure what your payoff has to do with it.

    Good luck! Let’s hope this dealer isn’t a Richard.
    If they are offering to buy your trade, they need the payoff to provide a complete quote.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,783
    edited May 17
    kyfdx said:

    au1994 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    I found a very mildly optioned ($43,475 MSRP) Explorer XLT not too far away from me that fits the bill. White (not my favorite color)/Black Interior with 18" Wheels (not the optional 20s), Captain's Chairs, The Tow Hitch, The Twin Panel Glass Moonroof, & The Pro Pilot 360 Assist+. I googled the dealership and emailed the sales person who has positive reviews. I wrote him a detailed email with most of the pertinent information (stock number, lease term & miles, I have excellent credit, details about my trade) he needs to provide me with a price. I tell him I can take delivery either this week or next.

    I received an email back requesting my zip code & the VIN on my Pilot. I provide it to him.

    Next I get an email asking me if I owe money on the Pilot (not sure what this has to do with anything). I reply yes along with the loan balance, who it is financed through, and that I got an offer from ALGO to buy it for $25K.

    I'll let you know how the story unfolds.

    I can see needing your zip to see if there are any incentives. Not sure on the VIN. A customer would be foolish to tell them they have a Pilot Elite when its really an LX. Not sure what your payoff has to do with it.

    Good luck! Let’s hope this dealer isn’t a Richard.
    If they are offering to buy your trade, they need the payoff to provide a complete quote.
    That's the thing. The only variables are their price for their car and their offer for yours. But if they want to provide an entire quote sheet down to leasing/financing offers, they need all that other information too. If you're just curious, it can be mildly annoying, but when you're serious about a purchase, it's kinda nice to get the actual quote.

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,137
    breld said:

    kyfdx said:

    au1994 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    I found a very mildly optioned ($43,475 MSRP) Explorer XLT not too far away from me that fits the bill. White (not my favorite color)/Black Interior with 18" Wheels (not the optional 20s), Captain's Chairs, The Tow Hitch, The Twin Panel Glass Moonroof, & The Pro Pilot 360 Assist+. I googled the dealership and emailed the sales person who has positive reviews. I wrote him a detailed email with most of the pertinent information (stock number, lease term & miles, I have excellent credit, details about my trade) he needs to provide me with a price. I tell him I can take delivery either this week or next.

    I received an email back requesting my zip code & the VIN on my Pilot. I provide it to him.

    Next I get an email asking me if I owe money on the Pilot (not sure what this has to do with anything). I reply yes along with the loan balance, who it is financed through, and that I got an offer from ALGO to buy it for $25K.

    I'll let you know how the story unfolds.

    I can see needing your zip to see if there are any incentives. Not sure on the VIN. A customer would be foolish to tell them they have a Pilot Elite when its really an LX. Not sure what your payoff has to do with it.

    Good luck! Let’s hope this dealer isn’t a Richard.
    If they are offering to buy your trade, they need the payoff to provide a complete quote.
    That's the thing. The only variables are their price for their car and their offer for yours. But if they want to provide an entire quote sheet down to leasing/financing offers, they need all that other information too. If you're just curious, it can be mildly annoying, but when you're serious about a purchase, it's kinda nice to get the actual quote.
    You are both right, of course. The upside when a dealer does this is the quote is 100% accurate and actionable as opposed to working with numbers where the customer says they owe ‘about 10k’ on the trade.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,740

    @breld said:
    That's the thing. The only variables are their price for their car and their offer for yours. But if they want to provide an entire quote sheet down to leasing/financing offers, they need all that other information too. If you're just curious, it can be mildly annoying, but when you're serious about a purchase, it's kinda nice to get the actual quote.

    I just hope I don’t get a “great news. You have $X equity in your Pilot, so once we use that as a down payment, your payment will be...” email.

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  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,919
    sda said:

    henryn said:

    Now this is interesting.

    https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/league-city-2010-volkswagen-passat/7308253932.html

    A 2010 Passat, looks very clean in the pictures. I believe that was the last year model which came with the good 2.0T engine, not the newer watered down engine. And the DSG transmission.

    Looks nice. I really liked my 06 Passat 2.0t. I thought the 2010 Passat had the 6sp Aisin sourced automatic like my 06 had.
    I'm going by this article in Motor Trend: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/volkswagen/passat/2010/

    My 2008 Passat 2.0t also had the normal 6 speed automatic transmission with torque converter. But Motor Trend says all of the 2010's had the DSG

    The Passat is equipped with VW's peppy 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-four, which is now its only engine as the optional V-6 has been dropped. In addition, the six-speed manual and automatic gearboxes and the all-wheel drive option are also gone for 2010. None of that is really missed (except maybe the manual tranny), as the turbo-four -- mated to the standard auto-clutch DSG manual -- offers peppy response and good fuel economy.
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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,783
    nyccarguy said:

    @breld said:

    That's the thing. The only variables are their price for their car and their offer for yours. But if they want to provide an entire quote sheet down to leasing/financing offers, they need all that other information too. If you're just curious, it can be mildly annoying, but when you're serious about a purchase, it's kinda nice to get the actual quote.

    I just hope I don’t get a “great news. You have $X equity in your Pilot, so once we use that as a down payment, your payment will be...” email.


    You'd lease the Explorer for sure, right? So with no tax savings to consider, you'd probably be better off just unloading the Pilot to Carvana, Vroom or Carmax? The Pilot must be high on their list of desired inventory.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 3,794
    Thanks for the PHEV update, breld. Good to know.

    I shopped the Maser Ghibli when I was considering the XF. I couldn't get comfy in the Maser, the ergonomics weren't great (well, Italian). Back seat a bit cramped (sounding just like Dad now!). And, could see the ChryCo bits, but they were bits that probably worked a whole lot better than their Italian counterparts!
    So, I took the safer, more reliable route and bought British.

    A fond, but bittersweet adieu to my '13 Jaguar XF. And so, I present this laurel, and hearty handshake to the new boss; '21 Audi A7 PHEV. '09 Jag XK , '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco ; all special to me. And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... I've yet to buy a car I didn't like. Although, do I really want to drive a car that would have someone such as me as its owner?

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,344
    henryn said:

    sda said:

    henryn said:

    Now this is interesting.

    https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/league-city-2010-volkswagen-passat/7308253932.html

    A 2010 Passat, looks very clean in the pictures. I believe that was the last year model which came with the good 2.0T engine, not the newer watered down engine. And the DSG transmission.

    Looks nice. I really liked my 06 Passat 2.0t. I thought the 2010 Passat had the 6sp Aisin sourced automatic like my 06 had.
    I'm going by this article in Motor Trend: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/volkswagen/passat/2010/

    My 2008 Passat 2.0t also had the normal 6 speed automatic transmission with torque converter. But Motor Trend says all of the 2010's had the DSG

    The Passat is equipped with VW's peppy 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-four, which is now its only engine as the optional V-6 has been dropped. In addition, the six-speed manual and automatic gearboxes and the all-wheel drive option are also gone for 2010. None of that is really missed (except maybe the manual tranny), as the turbo-four -- mated to the standard auto-clutch DSG manual -- offers peppy response and good fuel economy.

    I learned something today! :smile: It would be nice to know how the DSG performs vs the traditional auto. As you know VW reverted back the traditional auto on the 2.5, 1.8t and 2.0t.

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  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 2,919
    edited May 17
    sda said:


    I learned something today! :smile: It would be nice to know how the DSG performs vs the traditional auto. As you know VW reverted back the traditional auto on the 2.5, 1.8t and 2.0t.

    I had the 2008 2.0t with the normal automatic, and the 2013 TDI with the DSG. I have nothing against either tranny, but I will say the DSG is a bit clunky when dealing with stop-and-go traffic or trying to maneuver in a 13 story parking garage.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 42,010
    DSG needs more frequent fluid changes too I think.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 190,788
    The one in the A3 TDI was very clunky. Can't complain about the MPG, though

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,740

    @breld said:
    You'd lease the Explorer for sure, right? So with no tax savings to consider, you'd probably be better off just unloading the Pilot to Carvana, Vroom or Carmax? The Pilot must be high on their list of desired inventory.

    Ford currently has a $2,750 “trade in incentive” rebate if you trade in your vehicle for a new Ford. It’s $1000 higher if you go for a Limited, ST, or Platinum.

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