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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    vinyl floor, and really, walls are overrated in a basement rec room. or use plastic panels. But carpet and drywall, have no place in a basement!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,892

    So, little quality things keep coming up with the Fiat. Hopefully these are the things people complain about and they don’t get worse.

    A few weeks ago, I kept hearing a rattle in the door. It was driving me nuts. Pull the door apart at home and find one of the window motor nuts had fallen off. Re-installed with a lock washer. Then a few days ago, while I’m driving, the cover of the armrest broke off. All the tabs had snapped. I used some construction glue to put it back together. Then my wife tells me last night the trunk will no
    longer open from the outside. After taking some things apart and checking fuses, I did some searching online and found a common problem with the convertible top needing resetting to unlock the trunk lockout. Done and done. Like I said, little things. But probably stuff that most people are going to a dealer for.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,063
    qbrozen said:

    So, little quality things keep coming up with the Fiat. Hopefully these are the things people complain about and they don’t get worse.

    Car Wizard just did a video on this, basically saying that if you don't want to be nickeled and dimed to death, you should buy a Toyota or Lexus. :D
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,892

    @corvette said:
    Car Wizard just did a video on this, basically saying that if you don't want to be nickeled and dimed to death, you should buy a Toyota or Lexus. :D

    Well, knock on wood, I have yet to spend a dime on it after purchase. It should go in for an oil change one of these days.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 204,696
    stickguy said:

    vinyl floor, and really, walls are overrated in a basement rec room. or use plastic panels. But carpet and drywall, have no place in a basement!

    Huh.

    I think 3 or 4 people on my block have finished their basement in the past 6 months. My neighbor across the street just finished theirs last week.

    Their basement is ~800sf, and they finished it all - bedroom, full bath and a living space. I think they needed the extra space as they are now WFH, and have two kids (10 and 14).

    My basement is unfinished, but 1700SF (full size of our ranch style house), and we've discussed finishing about half of it, much the same way as described above. But, at roughly $65/sf for completion, that's a bunch of money to spend. Typical recoup on sale is roughly 75-80% of the spend.

    Regarding flooding, we have a sump pump installed to drain the peripheral water that gets collected. We do live somewhat downstream from a new dam/reservoir to supply water to our town. Given the drought conditions we have, I don't expect it to fail or flood while we're living in the house.

    At the moment, just idle speculation with the wife and I.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,892
    edited September 2021

    @qbrozen said:

    @corvette said:
    Car Wizard just did a video on this, basically saying that if you don't want to be nickeled and dimed to death, you should buy a Toyota or Lexus. :D

    Well, knock on wood, I have yet to spend a dime (nor nickel) on it after purchase. It should go in for an oil change one of these days.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZMember Posts: 5,284
    qbrozen said:

    So, little quality things keep coming up with the Fiat

    Fix It Again, Tony

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 206,798
    stickguy said:

    vinyl floor, and really, walls are overrated in a basement rec room. or use plastic panels. But carpet and drywall, have no place in a basement!

    Fortunately, our basement is above the water table, so no need for a sump. We lived here 11 years before we finished the basement, so had a pretty good idea that it would stay dry. It is a walkout basement, with a stepped down foundation for about 25% of it.

    1100 sq ft finished. Carpet and drywall, with finished ceiling, as well.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    Sounds more like above grade space so different conditions. Bradd has what I do it seems. A big hole underground.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,298
    qbrozen said:

    @qbrozen said:

    @corvette said:

    Car Wizard just did a video on this, basically saying that if you don't want to be nickeled and dimed to death, you should buy a Toyota or Lexus. :D

    Well, knock on wood, I have yet to spend a dime (nor nickel) on it after purchase. It should go in for an oil change one of these days.


    I just got your PM from last week.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,892
    nyccarguy said:

    I’ve officially placed my order for a 4Xe Wrangler. Hydro Blue Sahara with Black Interior and the Open Sky Roof. Gorilla Glass, Safety, Advanced Safety, Trailer Tow, Cold Weather. I’ll post pics upon delivery in 9 - 15 weeks;)

    Rumors have blamed pretty much each one of those options for build delays. lol. So could be 8-24 weeks. ;b

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    Pilot replacement? Or Taco?

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,592
    nyccarguy said:

    I’ve officially placed my order for a 4Xe Wrangler. Hydro Blue Sahara with Black Interior and the Open Sky Roof. Gorilla Glass, Safety, Advanced Safety, Trailer Tow, Cold Weather. I’ll post pics upon delivery in 9 - 15 weeks;)

    Does this replace the Pilot?

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,603

    @nyccarguy said:
    I’ve officially placed my order for a 4Xe Wrangler. Hydro Blue Sahara with Black Interior and the Open Sky Roof. Gorilla Glass, Safety, Advanced Safety, Trailer Tow, Cold Weather. I’ll post pics upon delivery in 9 - 15 weeks;)

    Awesome! This is to replace the Taco?

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,298

    Taco replacement or Pilot replacement? Both actually. My wife has been driving the “family truckster” for the better part of the last 10+ years. She deserves something cool and fun. The winter weather isn’t getting any better. I’m sure she will put the Jeep’s 4WD capabilities to good use shuttling around to and from patients’ homes.

    For now, I’m going to make the Pilot my daily driver. After December, it will be paid off in 1 year. I think I owe a little more than $8K on it.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    Will the wrangler arrive before the Tacoma has to go back? If not, plan has a few holes in it!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,298

    6 month extension on the Tacoma is month to month.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,063
    edited September 2021
    There are 14 different trim levels for the Wrangler on Jeep's website. IDK how anyone would pick, it looks more complicated than ordering a full size truck. Correction: Only three trim levels on the 4xe.
  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,777
    edited September 2021
    nyccarguy said:

    I’ve officially placed my order for a 4Xe Wrangler. Hydro Blue Sahara with Black Interior and the Open Sky Roof. Gorilla Glass, Safety, Advanced Safety, Trailer Tow, Cold Weather. I’ll post pics upon delivery in 9 - 15 weeks;)

    Thats going to be a good color combo. I was right around 12 weeks plus a few days…ordered on 6/28 picked up 9/16. It actually does move quick once you get scheduled for build.

    I’ve racked up 144 miles, 115 of which have been electric.

    Congrats, you’ll love it!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,753

    @corvette said:
    There are 14 different trim levels for the Wrangler on Jeep's website. IDK how anyone would pick, it looks more complicated than ordering a full size truck. Correction: Only three trim levels on the 4xe.

    If I go with a Wrangler I’m leaning towards a 2 door so that limits trim options a bit.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,753

    More confirmation that I should not buy a Supra- from a Supra forum, where a lot of owners are learning the hard way that many Toyota service departments do not have a handle on BMW technology:

    Went to the dealership. Found out in addition to bricking the ECU they fried a bunch of ancillary electrical components, such as the camera system, etc. Pulled my contract...will have right of first refusal if they ever fix everything. The search continues... it was nice "owning" a Supra for 7 days.

    Apparently some dealers are attempting to update ECUs without connecting the vehicle to a battery tender, the result being that the ECU immediately becomes a large paperweight.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,892
    I messed up yesterday. Decided to go with some folks' recommendations online about how to fix Jeep's oversight of not having auto-up on the windows. Ordered a module that wires into the back of the window module. Took a good couple of hours. Time for the test ... driver's window goes down, try auto-up, nothing doing. Went down again, then it quit. Wouldn't move either way. To make the story brief, the switch assembly is fried. Pulled out the add-on module and, with much fiddling, jumped the window motor in the driver's door to get it back up. New switch with expedited shipping is running me $90. Sigh. Oh well. I did find one other poster online who had the same result. Yet, it works for many people. I dunno. Go figure.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,063
    @roadburner - yikes, I thought the plugging into shore power when doing a firmware update is standard operating procedure for most makes of vehicle, in addition to being common sense. Would you consider waiting for the first crop of Supras to survive the factory warranty period, buying one used, and taking it to either the BMW dealer or your mechanic of choice?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    How often does a Corolla need an ECU update?

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,851
    stickguy said:

    How often does a Corolla need an ECU update?

    Maybe the Toyo dealer didn't use a properly registered battery tender. ;)

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,147
    @nyccarguy - congrats! Sounds like a great and fun way to go!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,063

    So, how many should we put the @breld household down for?

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,753
    corvette said:

    @roadburner - yikes, I thought the plugging into shore power when doing a firmware update is standard operating procedure for most makes of vehicle, in addition to being common sense. Would you consider waiting for the first crop of Supras to survive the factory warranty period, buying one used, and taking it to either the BMW dealer or your mechanic of choice?

    At one time, maybe. However, I've talked to some long-time BMW enthusiasts that I trust and they all absolutely love the M2 Comp- and some of them are people who owned the revered E46 M3. I'm thinking more and more that the M2 Comp may be one of the true classic ///M cars. Heck, Jeremy Clarkson picked it over an E28 M5!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    better just go get it then before it gets even more expensive. Treat yourself!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,063
    For those of us interested in the Maverick, someone posted some interior photos of the XL model. I couldn't completely tell from Ford's official photos, but it's clear that even the XL has the blue-gray colored trim on the door panels and dash, which I think is a really nice touch.


  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,921
    qbrozen said:

    So, little quality things keep coming up with the Fiat. Hopefully these are the things people complain about and they don’t get worse.

    A few weeks ago, I kept hearing a rattle in the door. It was driving me nuts. Pull the door apart at home and find one of the window motor nuts had fallen off. Re-installed with a lock washer. Then a few days ago, while I’m driving, the cover of the armrest broke off. All the tabs had snapped. I used some construction glue to put it back together. Then my wife tells me last night the trunk will no

    longer open from the outside. After taking some things apart and checking fuses, I did some searching online and found a common problem with the convertible top needing resetting to unlock the trunk lockout. Done and done. Like I said, little things. But probably stuff that most people are going to a dealer for.

    FIAT=Fix It Again Tony. :'(

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,921
    mjfloyd1 said:
    Some of that inflation has to be due to the total shutdown of used car supply from the rental agencies. That’s over a million less cars coming to market a year.

    Today I drove a Camaro SS that had 54k miles on it. Usually we’d send them down the line at about 20k.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,592

    mjfloyd1 said:
    Some of that inflation has to be due to the total shutdown of used car supply from the rental agencies. That’s over a million less cars coming to market a year.

    Today I drove a Camaro SS that had 54k miles on it. Usually we’d send them down the line at about 20k.
    With many being high mileage and out of warranty, does Enterprise repair them when the trans fails, a/c needs major repairs, etc? Or do they just cut bait and send them to auction? Thanks for the good wishes, trying to stay positive. I’m not one to lay about the house so this is a different experience.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,921

    @corvette said:

    There are 14 different trim levels for the Wrangler on Jeep's website. IDK how anyone would pick, it looks more complicated than ordering a full size truck. Correction: Only three trim levels on the 4xe.

    If I go with a Wrangler I’m leaning towards a 2 door so that limits trim options a bit.


    Why would you replace your 1999 Wrangler which is arguably the pinnacle of Chrysler’s production?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    fewer new car sales, so fewer trade ins. No rental dumps. more people buying out leases instead of turning them back in. snowball effect.

    and with the recent Ida mess, many thousands of people that had no intention of buying now are suddenly in the market too, without the luxury of waiting.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,921
    qbrozen said:

    I messed up yesterday. Decided to go with some folks' recommendations online about how to fix Jeep's oversight of not having auto-up on the windows. Ordered a module that wires into the back of the window module. Took a good couple of hours. Time for the test ... driver's window goes down, try auto-up, nothing doing. Went down again, then it quit. Wouldn't move either way. To make the story brief, the switch assembly is fried. Pulled out the add-on module and, with much fiddling, jumped the window motor in the driver's door to get it back up. New switch with expedited shipping is running me $90. Sigh. Oh well. I did find one other poster online who had the same result. Yet, it works for many people. I dunno. Go figure.

    That’s my greatest fear when doing my own work; making it worse. I commend you for your willingness to try.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,063
    I do see a few dealers with healthy-ish looking selections of used cars. I guess if you're willing to be the highest bidder, you, too, can have a completely full used lot.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    there is a local chain near me. I think they have about 6 locations in the area. usually pretty nice stuff, but was always premium priced. They still seem to have pretty full lots. They say that their primary source was off-lease returns, so who knows when that dries up!

    but a great place to look at stuff you are interested in since they have almost everything, and are very low key. Just hand you the keys and let you go off by yourself for as long as you want.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,753

    @corvette said:

    There are 14 different trim levels for the Wrangler on Jeep's website. IDK how anyone would pick, it looks more complicated than ordering a full size truck. Correction: Only three trim levels on the 4xe.

    If I go with a Wrangler I’m leaning towards a 2 door so that limits trim options a bit.

    Why would you replace your 1999 Wrangler which is arguably the pinnacle of Chrysler’s production?

    Yes, unfortunately- although I may yet fix a few issues on it and keep it until I die. After all, it served me well in two campaigns and helped us escape to civilization when ice storms and other severe weather blew trees down across the road.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,040
    A Toyota supply exec said yesterday that over the next few months things should get somewhat better when it comes to chip supplies and the production of Toyota vehicles.

    https://www.autonews.com/video/autonews-now-toyota-nissan-faurecia-execs-talk-chip-shortage
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 206,798
    stickguy said:

    there is a local chain near me. I think they have about 6 locations in the area. usually pretty nice stuff, but was always premium priced. They still seem to have pretty full lots. They say that their primary source was off-lease returns, so who knows when that dries up!

    but a great place to look at stuff you are interested in since they have almost everything, and are very low key. Just hand you the keys and let you go off by yourself for as long as you want.

    We had one like that.. turned out to be a front for Russian money launders. (not kidding)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,639
    Wouldn’t have expected them in your area, but interesting still!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,063
    Toyota recently released a bunch of info on the new 2022 Tundra. Nothing really unexpected, two engine choices, either a twin turbo V6 or a twin turbo V6 with a hybrid, with the hybrid setup making more power. No plug-in hybrid. There is some type of trailer backup assistance, but the website is vague on details. I doubt we will see unicorn leases on these for quite a while.

    https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/tundra/
  • jpp75jpp75 DenverMember Posts: 1,508
    Congrats @nyccarguy! I test drove a 4xe a while back and definitely get the appeal.
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,471

    @benjaminh said:
    A Toyota supply exec said yesterday that over the next few months things should get somewhat better when it comes to chip supplies and the production of Toyota vehicles.

    https://www.autonews.com/video/autonews-now-toyota-nissan-faurecia-execs-talk-chip-shortage

    It’s nice to learn that the slowdown in car production has given auto execs a chance to improve their golf game. Nice work if you can get it.

    jmonroe

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