Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

1252825292531253325342578

Comments

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,092
    I see those tags all the time (well, maybe not these days, but in normal times!). Usually big ones hanging from the mirror showing the sales price.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 3,852

    @laurasdada said:

    In my travels today, stopped at a MB dealer to look at an '18 Aston Martin DB11; sat in it, made vroom vroom noises. Actually started it up, V8 sounds wonderful. I fit, ingress/egress wasn't too bad (unlike the billionaire doored BMW i8, that's a contortionists dream). Obvious Mercedes bits and pieces, not sure I felt the hefty price of entry in the interior materials. Styling, quite lovely, but reminded me of my Jag XK. And, I can't believe that a saleswoman actually approached me and allowed me to sit, start and play! Fooled her real good. She said I really should buy in the next week as she's off to Greece for a month next weekend. No pressure. And, out of warranty. I am a gambler...

    Saw youngish couple with youngerish daughter testing a new G-Wagon. Parked next to my A7e, the youngerish daughter seemed to like my car. Noted the ADM sticker in the G window, something like this:

    Market Adjustment $20k

    Security Package $2500

    Simonize $1500

    So, seems like a deal.

    Fintail's checkbook is now out...

    A friend in VA has become a big Aston Martin fan- he keeps encouraging me to buy a DB7 or DB9. I have to say I’ve been tempted. As Jeremy Clarkson said, it's really nice to be able to say, “Darling, why don’t we take the Aston?”


    And it was Clarkson, when reviewing the XK (maybe XKR), while he loved it, said it just screams "because I couldn't afford the Aston Martin." Which my son loved to quote.
    Of course, for the price of the AM, there are a 911s...

    I do seem to have a preference for the Brits, though. Don't tell Herr Audi, bitte.

    A fond, but bittersweet adieu to my '13 Jaguar XF. And so, I present this laurel, and hearty handshake to the new boss; '21 Audi A7 PHEV. '09 Jag XK , '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco ; all special to me. And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... I've yet to buy a car I didn't like. Although, do I really want to drive a car that would have someone such as me as its owner?

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 5,944
    edited July 24
    It's easier to see in the back of a lighter interior vehicle, don't know why but it's brighter than a black interior. That's the point I was trying to make.

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 5,728
    edited July 25
    Perhaps no one would cross-shop the Corolla hybrid with Ford's upcoming Maverick hybrid, but maybe they should.

    With destination a 2022 Corolla hybrid has an msrp of $24,645, and goes 0-60 in a "painfully slow" 10.7 seconds:

    https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a28442604/2020-toyota-corolla-hybrid-by-the-numbers/

    With destination a 2022 base Maverick hybrid has an msrp of $21,490. The Maverick hybrid is more powerful than the Corolla and should go about two seconds faster 0-60.

    At msrp the Maverick hybrid costs $3155 less than the Corolla hybrid.

    The standard steel wheels on the Maverick look old school in a good way to me. I could probably live with a manual seat, but I'm used to adaptive cruise control now, and I think even a base Corolla or Civic get that.

    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2018 Honda CR-V EX AWD (wife's)
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,562

    In my travels today, stopped at a MB dealer to look at an '18 Aston Martin DB11; sat in it, made vroom vroom noises. Actually started it up, V8 sounds wonderful. I fit, ingress/egress wasn't too bad (unlike the billionaire doored BMW i8, that's a contortionists dream). Obvious Mercedes bits and pieces, not sure I felt the hefty price of entry in the interior materials. Styling, quite lovely, but reminded me of my Jag XK. And, I can't believe that a saleswoman actually approached me and allowed me to sit, start and play! Fooled her real good. She said I really should buy in the next week as she's off to Greece for a month next weekend. No pressure. And, out of warranty. I am a gambler...

    Watch out for insurance costs if you buy an Aston.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,703
    edited July 25
    benjaminh said:

    Perhaps no one would cross-shop the Corolla hybrid with Ford's upcoming Maverick hybrid, but maybe they should.

    To my mind:
    Corolla Hybrid = regular Corolla with a Prius powertrain
    Maverick Hybrid = Escape Hybrid with a bed instead of a cargo area and fewer standard features

    I think I'd much rather drive the Escape-derived vehicle. With the high cargo load rating, I think the Maverick hybrid would be a perfect parts hauler for an auto parts store, and probably other applications, as well. The 33 MPG highway rating is kind of a letdown, although I think that is a function of curb weight and the aerodynamics and frontal square footage "footprint."

    I, too, love the standard steel wheels on the Maverick XL. I think the XL with the 2.0T engine is going to be a sleeper.
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,119
    Hey, look what I just saw over in the Cars and Conversations board. Does he expect a party or presents or what? Some nerve, huh? :@

    Before I forget, I’d like to wish @jmonroe a happy birthday. I missed his anniversary last week (still get a few snide remarks about that) so I didn’t want to screw up again.

    jmonroe1
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,844

    What does jmonroe think of this newcomer jmonroe1? :)

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 53,936
    In the before times, I recall screamer TV ads for trucks especially claiming 10K+ off MSRP. I assume these offers required dealer financing etc.

    fintail said:

    Only 20K? Well, some say the market is slowing.

    G is something I would special order, using a MB rep if needed - I'd rather wait than buy something with generic spec ordered by a dealer to appeal to boring overmonied people.

    Local dealer had a few year old G accessorized with all kinds of instagram-style outdoorsy "lifestyle" bric a brac (as the Toyota 4x4 and Subaru cult locally are into all that even if they never venture past a paved trailhead with food vendors and 5G service - it's all about pretending to be adventurous and active and bold). Naturally it was also overpriced, nobody would touch it, I heard they sent it to auction.

    In my travels today, stopped at a MB dealer to look at an '18 Aston Martin DB11; sat in it, made vroom vroom noises. Actually started it up, V8 sounds wonderful. I fit, ingress/egress wasn't too bad (unlike the billionaire doored BMW i8, that's a contortionists dream). Obvious Mercedes bits and pieces, not sure I felt the hefty price of entry in the interior materials. Styling, quite lovely, but reminded me of my Jag XK. And, I can't believe that a saleswoman actually approached me and allowed me to sit, start and play! Fooled her real good. She said I really should buy in the next week as she's off to Greece for a month next weekend. No pressure. And, out of warranty. I am a gambler...

    Saw youngish couple with youngerish daughter testing a new G-Wagon. Parked next to my A7e, the youngerish daughter seemed to like my car. Noted the ADM sticker in the G window, something like this:

    Market Adjustment $20k
    Security Package $2500
    Simonize $1500

    So, seems like a deal.
    Fintail's checkbook is now out...

    I notice the "market adjustment" of $20K

    Has anyone ever seen a dealer have a market adjustment on the sticker which is -$10K? -$15 K?
    My understanding is if the market were not so good for a model, color, etc., a negative adjustment
    would be called for.



  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,695
    fintail said:

    In the before times, I recall screamer TV ads for trucks especially claiming 10K+ off MSRP. I assume these offers required dealer financing etc.



    fintail said:

    Only 20K? Well, some say the market is slowing.

    G is something I would special order, using a MB rep if needed - I'd rather wait than buy something with generic spec ordered by a dealer to appeal to boring overmonied people.

    Local dealer had a few year old G accessorized with all kinds of instagram-style outdoorsy "lifestyle" bric a brac (as the Toyota 4x4 and Subaru cult locally are into all that even if they never venture past a paved trailhead with food vendors and 5G service - it's all about pretending to be adventurous and active and bold). Naturally it was also overpriced, nobody would touch it, I heard they sent it to auction.

    In my travels today, stopped at a MB dealer to look at an '18 Aston Martin DB11; sat in it, made vroom vroom noises. Actually started it up, V8 sounds wonderful. I fit, ingress/egress wasn't too bad (unlike the billionaire doored BMW i8, that's a contortionists dream). Obvious Mercedes bits and pieces, not sure I felt the hefty price of entry in the interior materials. Styling, quite lovely, but reminded me of my Jag XK. And, I can't believe that a saleswoman actually approached me and allowed me to sit, start and play! Fooled her real good. She said I really should buy in the next week as she's off to Greece for a month next weekend. No pressure. And, out of warranty. I am a gambler...

    Saw youngish couple with youngerish daughter testing a new G-Wagon. Parked next to my A7e, the youngerish daughter seemed to like my car. Noted the ADM sticker in the G window, something like this:

    Market Adjustment $20k
    Security Package $2500
    Simonize $1500

    So, seems like a deal.
    Fintail's checkbook is now out...

    I notice the "market adjustment" of $20K

    Has anyone ever seen a dealer have a market adjustment on the sticker which is -$10K? -$15 K?
    My understanding is if the market were not so good for a model, color, etc., a negative adjustment
    would be called for.



    There was one local dealership north of Charlotte that would advertise attractive pricing. Then they would add in the disclaimer you had to buy the mop and glo, admin fee, finance thru a specific company and buy insurance from a specific company. Huh? Immediate turn off to me.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,119
    mjfloyd1 said:

    What does jmonroe think of this newcomer jmonroe1? :)

    Not much. :@

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,119
    sda said:

    fintail said:

    In the before times, I recall screamer TV ads for trucks especially claiming 10K+ off MSRP. I assume these offers required dealer financing etc.



    fintail said:

    Only 20K? Well, some say the market is slowing.

    G is something I would special order, using a MB rep if needed - I'd rather wait than buy something with generic spec ordered by a dealer to appeal to boring overmonied people.

    Local dealer had a few year old G accessorized with all kinds of instagram-style outdoorsy "lifestyle" bric a brac (as the Toyota 4x4 and Subaru cult locally are into all that even if they never venture past a paved trailhead with food vendors and 5G service - it's all about pretending to be adventurous and active and bold). Naturally it was also overpriced, nobody would touch it, I heard they sent it to auction.

    In my travels today, stopped at a MB dealer to look at an '18 Aston Martin DB11; sat in it, made vroom vroom noises. Actually started it up, V8 sounds wonderful. I fit, ingress/egress wasn't too bad (unlike the billionaire doored BMW i8, that's a contortionists dream). Obvious Mercedes bits and pieces, not sure I felt the hefty price of entry in the interior materials. Styling, quite lovely, but reminded me of my Jag XK. And, I can't believe that a saleswoman actually approached me and allowed me to sit, start and play! Fooled her real good. She said I really should buy in the next week as she's off to Greece for a month next weekend. No pressure. And, out of warranty. I am a gambler...

    Saw youngish couple with youngerish daughter testing a new G-Wagon. Parked next to my A7e, the youngerish daughter seemed to like my car. Noted the ADM sticker in the G window, something like this:

    Market Adjustment $20k
    Security Package $2500
    Simonize $1500

    So, seems like a deal.
    Fintail's checkbook is now out...

    I notice the "market adjustment" of $20K

    Has anyone ever seen a dealer have a market adjustment on the sticker which is -$10K? -$15 K?
    My understanding is if the market were not so good for a model, color, etc., a negative adjustment
    would be called for.



    There was one local dealership north of Charlotte that would advertise attractive pricing. Then they would add in the disclaimer you had to buy the mop and glo, admin fee, finance thru a specific company and buy insurance from a specific company. Huh? Immediate turn off to me.
    I can understand your turn off. I’d feel the same way. But, if this dealer has a history of doing business like that, it must be working. Probably lots of “payment buyers” since they like the big print.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 14,931

    @jmonroe - happiest of birthdays & many more my friend.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,284
    The dealership where I bought my Explorer has a Mustang Mach 1 with a 20K ADM.
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,555
    edited July 25

    @explorerx4 said:
    The dealership where I bought my Explorer has a Mustang Mach 1 with a 20K ADM.

    Haha … someone will probably pay it

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,092
    I saw another couple this weekend. Either they are starting to really get out there, or I just happened to be paying attention after seeing the first one!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,099

    The dealership where I bought my Explorer has a Mustang Mach 1 with a 20K ADM.

    With the exception of Kings in Cincy and a couple of salespeople at Bill Collins in Louisville. it seems that every Ford dealer I've dealt with had the primary goal of p*ssing me off. I'm sure everyone has a similar story involving a different brand, but that is what I've run into.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,099
    2jmonroe- happiest of birthdays!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZMember Posts: 5,132
    @jmonroe1 -- Have a happy b'day. There are only a few of us who tell it like it is but, left alone, we make it more interesting.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,555

    @cdnpinhead said:
    @jmonroe1 -- Have a happy b'day. There are only a few of us who tell it like it is but, left alone, we make it more interesting.

    Hope your birthday was great J! You can’t be all that bad having a birthday so close to mine !! :)

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,119
    tjc78 said:

    @cdnpinhead said:
    @jmonroe1 -- Have a happy b'day. There are only a few of us who tell it like it is but, left alone, we make it more interesting.

    Hope your birthday was great J! You can’t be all that bad having a birthday so close to mine !! :)


    That may be the only down side to this date. :D

    IIRC, our poster buddy @ab348 has a birthday around now too. Maybe we missed it. Even so I’m going to cover myself and wish everyone in here a happy birthday, whenever it was/is this year.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,844

    Strong work jmonroe and jmonroe1

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,099

    My wife was interested in a new Defender 90, so I looked on the LR site and located a couple of possibilities at a dealer in North Carolina. I then checked the dealer’s site and found both D90s had a $16k ADM.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,676
    tjc78 said:

    @explorerx4 said:

    The dealership where I bought my Explorer has a Mustang Mach 1 with a 20K ADM.

    Haha … someone will probably pay it


    Not me. When Carvana made me that insane offer on my 2015 I considered a Mach 1 long enough to drive to the nearest dealer who listed one. When I found out that the sales manager was bombing around in it as his personal car I lost interest. A $20k ADM would make me cancel the trip to even look.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,684
    There is a NJ dealer chain offering a fairly decent deal on the Mach 1. It is a balloon note, but supposedly with a guaranteed buy back. At full MSRP, a low-spec model is about $420/mo for 48 mos if you put $8500 up front, which is actually $1k after you get the $7500 back from the Feds.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 55-car history and counting!

  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 3,261
    fintail said:

    In the before times, I recall screamer TV ads for trucks especially claiming 10K+ off MSRP. I assume these offers required dealer financing etc.



    fintail said:

    Only 20K? Well, some say the market is slowing.

    G is something I would special order, using a MB rep if needed - I'd rather wait than buy something with generic spec ordered by a dealer to appeal to boring overmonied people.

    Local dealer had a few year old G accessorized with all kinds of instagram-style outdoorsy "lifestyle" bric a brac (as the Toyota 4x4 and Subaru cult locally are into all that even if they never venture past a paved trailhead with food vendors and 5G service - it's all about pretending to be adventurous and active and bold). Naturally it was also overpriced, nobody would touch it, I heard they sent it to auction.

    In my travels today, stopped at a MB dealer to look at an '18 Aston Martin DB11; sat in it, made vroom vroom noises. Actually started it up, V8 sounds wonderful. I fit, ingress/egress wasn't too bad (unlike the billionaire doored BMW i8, that's a contortionists dream). Obvious Mercedes bits and pieces, not sure I felt the hefty price of entry in the interior materials. Styling, quite lovely, but reminded me of my Jag XK. And, I can't believe that a saleswoman actually approached me and allowed me to sit, start and play! Fooled her real good. She said I really should buy in the next week as she's off to Greece for a month next weekend. No pressure. And, out of warranty. I am a gambler...

    Saw youngish couple with youngerish daughter testing a new G-Wagon. Parked next to my A7e, the youngerish daughter seemed to like my car. Noted the ADM sticker in the G window, something like this:

    Market Adjustment $20k
    Security Package $2500
    Simonize $1500

    So, seems like a deal.
    Fintail's checkbook is now out...

    I notice the "market adjustment" of $20K

    Has anyone ever seen a dealer have a market adjustment on the sticker which is -$10K? -$15 K?
    My understanding is if the market were not so good for a model, color, etc., a negative adjustment
    would be called for.



    In 2018 I purchased an F150 SuperCrew XLT, MSRP right at $44k. I paid $33.5. About $5k in factory incentives, and about $5k in dealer discount. Such deals were common. Yes, it required captive financing, but I only had to finance $7.5k of that, and I paid it off after 90 days. Such deals were still commonly available right up until the world went insane.
    2019 Chrysler Pacifica, 2013 Ford F150 XL
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 7,949

    @qbrozen said:
    There is a NJ dealer chain offering a fairly decent deal on the Mach 1. It is a balloon note, but supposedly with a guaranteed buy back. At full MSRP, a low-spec model is about $420/mo for 48 mos if you put $8500 up front, which is actually $1k after you get the $7500 back from the Feds.

    I missed the decent part.

    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,703
    edited July 25

    I missed the decent part.

    Also, I think there is confusion between Mach 1 and Mach-E. Shame on Ford for making two very different cars and calling them both Mustangs! But I am pretty sure the Mach 1 will never get a tax rebate.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 193,024

    Edmunds Price Checker
    Edmunds Lease Calculator
    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


    MODERATOR

    2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 7,949

    @corvette said:
    Also, I think there is confusion between Mach 1 and Mach-E. Shame on Ford for making two very different cars and calling them both Mustangs! But I am pretty sure the Mach 1 will never get a tax rebate.

    I totally missed that. Just assumed he meant Mach E.

    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulMember Posts: 1,009
    This looks interesting. Makes me wonder if there's a good Volvo mechanic in Miami to PPI it? If it begins fairly healthy, the second 100K on these Volvos can be some good driving. Even if this one is probably 300 lbs heavier than my old V70.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9eDEqq4o/2005-volvo-xc70
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,562
    edited July 26
    jmonroe1 said:



    IIRC, our poster buddy @ab348 has a birthday around now too. Maybe we missed it. Even so I’m going to cover myself and wish everyone in here a happy birthday, whenever it was/is this year.

    jmonroe

    Thanks JM1. It is today, I turn 65. Cripes!

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,684

    @corvette said:
    Also, I think there is confusion between Mach 1 and Mach-E. Shame on Ford for making two very different cars and calling them both Mustangs! But I am pretty sure the Mach 1 will never get a tax rebate.

    Daaannng. That’s what happens when I’m tired.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 55-car history and counting!

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,684

    @28firefighter said:

    @qbrozen said:
    There is a NJ dealer chain offering a fairly decent deal on the Mach 1. It is a balloon note, but supposedly with a guaranteed buy back. At full MSRP, a low-spec model is about $420/mo for 48 mos if you put $8500 up front, which is actually $1k after you get the $7500 back from the Feds.

    I missed the decent part.

    0.94% relative payment vs MSRP for a new model in this market is “fairly decent” IMHO. Granted, its 48 mos.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 55-car history and counting!

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,684
    edited July 26

    @ronsteve said:
    This looks interesting. Makes me wonder if there's a good Volvo mechanic in Miami to PPI it? If it begins fairly healthy, the second 100K on these Volvos can be some good driving. Even if this one is probably 300 lbs heavier than my old V70.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9eDEqq4o/2005-volvo-xc70

    Weak transmissions in 2005.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 55-car history and counting!

  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulMember Posts: 1,009
    qbrozen said:

    @ronsteve said:

    This looks interesting. Makes me wonder if there's a good Volvo mechanic in Miami to PPI it? If it begins fairly healthy, the second 100K on these Volvos can be some good driving. Even if this one is probably 300 lbs heavier than my old V70.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9eDEqq4o/2005-volvo-xc70

    Weak transmissions in 2005.


    Was it an issue with the AWD transmissions, or was there an upgrade between the 05 and 06 model years? As far as I was aware it was still the Aisin AW55 5-speed auto.
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,695
    ab348 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    IIRC, our poster buddy @ab348 has a birthday around now too. Maybe we missed it. Even so I’m going to cover myself and wish everyone in here a happy birthday, whenever it was/is this year.

    jmonroe

    Thanks JM1. It is today, I turn 65. Cripes!
    Happy Birthday! Enjoy.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,684
    edited July 26
    ronsteve said:



    Was it an issue with the AWD transmissions, or was there an upgrade between the 05 and 06 model years? As far as I was aware it was still the Aisin AW55 5-speed auto.

    Not specific to AWD.
    Here is a good writeup.
    https://www.eeuroparts.com/blog/is-your-volvo-hard-shifting-you-should-read-this/

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited. 55-car history and counting!

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 5,944
    A3 going in Thursday morning as we've had enough already. Got down and looked at the tires and though they are getting there, still some tread left, think we're good for a few more months at least. Got a feeling that since we're getting the leak taken care of, she'll be ready to do the couple of tires and be done with it! Drove it last night out to dinner & get petrol and she drives just fine. Could use a good bath but overall, with just under 63K on the clock, she's a very nice vehicle and hopefully will be around for a few more years. As long as there's no major issues, she'll stay in the stable. Once things start happening, we'll replace it with something else and doubt it'll be a German model. She almost go the Forte last time so suspect she'll stat there and see what she likes.
    Drove a new Elantra and Sentra at work finally on Friday and liked them both actually. Nissan finally seems to have gotten their auto tanny's to perform better, the old one's were really awful! Now that I've driven the Altima, Sentra and Versa, must say they drive much smoother and hate to say it, I'd consider a new Sentra or even a Versa though the Kicks would be a better fit. Loved the Elantra though there were a couple interior pieces I thought were a bit weird. I'd love to try a Limited model and then the N-line as I suspect they're a bit nicer. But it drove very smoothly and the ergonomics were quite good, especially liked the new dash set-up. Must admit there were a lot of hard plastic surfaces that could use a softer material but overall, think Hyundai did a bang up job here. Forgot about the Kia Forte's interior but suspect it'll be somewhat similar. I do suspect though that once the A3 is let go, a new Forte could very well take it's place on her side of the garage.

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 193,024
    My mom's '03 Sonata (which my sister is now driving) had some maintenance done last week. AC wasn't blowing cold; my sister lives in North County San Diego, where it can get 90+ many days, so in it went. Turns out a number of hoses needed replacing - the car is 18 years old, after all - so that got done.

    The guy who did the work noted that the tires were 10 years old, so those were ordered at Discount and are being installed tomorrow. Cooper CS5 Tourings - same as what we have on our Outback. $111/each.

    Side note - the guy who did the repair work commented on how good the Sonata looks, and would be interested in buying it if we decided to sell. The car only has something like 40-45K on it.

    Edmunds Price Checker
    Edmunds Lease Calculator
    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


    MODERATOR

    2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4

  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXMember Posts: 3,261
    Michaell said:

    My mom's '03 Sonata (which my sister is now driving) had some maintenance done last week. AC wasn't blowing cold; my sister lives in North County San Diego, where it can get 90+ many days, so in it went. Turns out a number of hoses needed replacing - the car is 18 years old, after all - so that got done.

    The guy who did the work noted that the tires were 10 years old, so those were ordered at Discount and are being installed tomorrow. Cooper CS5 Tourings - same as what we have on our Outback. $111/each.

    Side note - the guy who did the repair work commented on how good the Sonata looks, and would be interested in buying it if we decided to sell. The car only has something like 40-45K on it.

    There are some things that "age out" rather than "mile out". Those of us here who like older cars with very low mileage (and there are several of us) have experienced this first hand, and are prepared for it. Despite glitches like those mentioned above, they can still make for very nice rides.

    2019 Chrysler Pacifica, 2013 Ford F150 XL
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 193,024
    henryn said:

    Michaell said:

    My mom's '03 Sonata (which my sister is now driving) had some maintenance done last week. AC wasn't blowing cold; my sister lives in North County San Diego, where it can get 90+ many days, so in it went. Turns out a number of hoses needed replacing - the car is 18 years old, after all - so that got done.

    The guy who did the work noted that the tires were 10 years old, so those were ordered at Discount and are being installed tomorrow. Cooper CS5 Tourings - same as what we have on our Outback. $111/each.

    Side note - the guy who did the repair work commented on how good the Sonata looks, and would be interested in buying it if we decided to sell. The car only has something like 40-45K on it.

    There are some things that "age out" rather than "mile out". Those of us here who like older cars with very low mileage (and there are several of us) have experienced this first hand, and are prepared for it. Despite glitches like those mentioned above, they can still make for very nice rides.

    I will find out for myself in a few weeks, as I'm heading to California for a few days.

    We knew that the car had some deferred maintenance - my dad passed away in 2016, and not much has been done with the car between then and last year, when my sister took possession. It does look great from 20' away, though I suspect an interior detail could be in order.

    I think my sister has put a couple thousand dollars into it over the last year or so, which is probably more than it's worth, but it's a competent car that does the job well.

    Edmunds Price Checker
    Edmunds Lease Calculator
    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


    MODERATOR

    2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,695
    Michaell said:

    henryn said:

    Michaell said:

    My mom's '03 Sonata (which my sister is now driving) had some maintenance done last week. AC wasn't blowing cold; my sister lives in North County San Diego, where it can get 90+ many days, so in it went. Turns out a number of hoses needed replacing - the car is 18 years old, after all - so that got done.

    The guy who did the work noted that the tires were 10 years old, so those were ordered at Discount and are being installed tomorrow. Cooper CS5 Tourings - same as what we have on our Outback. $111/each.

    Side note - the guy who did the repair work commented on how good the Sonata looks, and would be interested in buying it if we decided to sell. The car only has something like 40-45K on it.

    There are some things that "age out" rather than "mile out". Those of us here who like older cars with very low mileage (and there are several of us) have experienced this first hand, and are prepared for it. Despite glitches like those mentioned above, they can still make for very nice rides.

    I will find out for myself in a few weeks, as I'm heading to California for a few days.

    We knew that the car had some deferred maintenance - my dad passed away in 2016, and not much has been done with the car between then and last year, when my sister took possession. It does look great from 20' away, though I suspect an interior detail could be in order.

    I think my sister has put a couple thousand dollars into it over the last year or so, which is probably more than it's worth, but it's a competent car that does the job well.
    You couldn't replace it in today's market for what has been spent to maintain it. Same with our TL.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,092
    My BIL had my FIL’s old Impala. Maybe a 2003/2004? Low miles, I doubt it had broken 60k yet. They Just donated it to a local votech. Body and interior fine, I think engine good, but it apparently rotted out underneath. Brakes shot and lines rusted out, suspension rubber wore out, and I think various rubber items in the engine. Had it towed to a mechanic who asked them why they bothered!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,874
    Michaell said:



    Side note - the guy who did the repair work commented on how good the Sonata looks, and would be interested in buying it if we decided to sell. The car only has something like 40-45K on it.

    In this crazy used market? Tell him the first $20k takes it. :D

    2021 Polestar 2 - 2020 MINI JCW Hardtop - 2021 Volvo XC90

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,119
    ab348 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    IIRC, our poster buddy @ab348 has a birthday around now too. Maybe we missed it. Even so I’m going to cover myself and wish everyone in here a happy birthday, whenever it was/is this year.

    jmonroe

    Thanks JM1. It is today, I turn 65. Cripes!
    As everyone knows, mine was yesterday. I should have known you’d be a day late…not sure about the dollar. :s

    Have a happy B-day.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,695
    jmonroe1 said:

    ab348 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    IIRC, our poster buddy @ab348 has a birthday around now too. Maybe we missed it. Even so I’m going to cover myself and wish everyone in here a happy birthday, whenever it was/is this year.

    jmonroe

    Thanks JM1. It is today, I turn 65. Cripes!
    As everyone knows, mine was yesterday. I should have known you’d be a day late…not sure about the dollar. :s

    Have a happy B-day.

    jmonroe
    You can make your birthday a Happy Birthday week. Do a happy dance and celebrate!

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 7,949
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 193,024
    Buy a car with a credit card?

    I'm sure you all have opinions as to whether it's a good idea, or not.

    Edmunds Price Checker
    Edmunds Lease Calculator
    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


    MODERATOR

    2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4

Sign In or Register to comment.