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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,557
    @nyccarguy,
    I guess I missed a bunch of posts when I was away over Labor Day.
    Sorry to hear about you basement getting flooded.
    You must have gotten a lot of rain from IDA.
    Good luck.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,057

    @explorerx4 said:
    @nyccarguy,
    I guess I missed a bunch of posts when I was away over Labor Day.
    Sorry to hear about you basement getting flooded.
    You must have gotten a lot of rain from IDA.
    Good luck.

    Thanks for your well wishes. My entire back yard was under 2 feet of water. My fully finished basement flooded as well. Nobody got hurt. All 3 of my cars made it out relatively unscathed. I lost carpeting and a lot of stuff. A few pictures. It’s dried out now. We’ve just got to decide what to do with it. We obviously aren’t going to carpet it again.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,997

    Would the waterproof vinyl that looks like wood work at all (after you get thoroughly dried out)?

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,897
    mjfloyd1 said:

    Would the waterproof vinyl that looks like wood work at all (after you get thoroughly dried out)?

    I second this recommendation, it seems to be pretty indestructible.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,232
    That 450SL would have been brand new then, very chic thing at the time.

    Michaell said:

    Each morning, I get news feeds from several outlets put into my inbox. One of them is the LA Times, where one section is an article from their archives. From today's edition:

    From the Sept. 14, 1973, Los Angeles Times: “A new Department of Motor Vehicles policy which provides for the recall of ‘offensive’ personalized license plates is not yet two weeks old, and it is already being challenged.

    “The DMV, which began issuing personalized plates in 1970, now has the legislative authority to recall issued plates ‘if they are considered offensive to good taste and decency.’

    “Last week the first recall notices were sent to Californians.”

    Among the challengers was 39-year-old Encino builder and accountant Burt Blum, who told The Times, “It is a restraint of free expression. Who has the right to decide what’s decent or indecent?”



    This would have been a much better story if the guy was a gastroenterologist.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,058
    if I end up with another basement when I move, if it isn't already finished, I would do a mini job. Put down a vinyl flooring, with a few cheap throw rugs. Paint the ceiling black (joists, etc.). And paint the walls white. And don't put anything down there worth much. Just the exercise stuff and a TV on a stand.

    that way you can still use it, but if it gets wet, no big deal.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,076
    stickguy said:

    if I end up with another basement when I move, if it isn't already finished, I would do a mini job. Put down a vinyl flooring, with a few cheap throw rugs. Paint the ceiling black (joists, etc.). And paint the walls white. And don't put anything down there worth much. Just the exercise stuff and a TV on a stand.

    that way you can still use it, but if it gets wet, no big deal.

    Or maybe build on a hill with no streams nearby.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,058
    yes. that can work too.

    not being in a low lying spot or near water is a criteria for my new house.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,848

    @stickguy said:
    if I end up with another basement when I move, if it isn't already finished, I would do a mini job. Put down a vinyl flooring, with a few cheap throw rugs. Paint the ceiling black (joists, etc.). And paint the walls white. And don't put anything down there worth much. Just the exercise stuff and a TV on a stand.

    that way you can still use it, but if it gets wet, no big deal.

    When the house was built they did the basement up. Full bathroom, all finished with carpet and a section of cabinets with a granite top and bar sink. If it ever floods I’m screwed. It is fully French drained with a sump pump which virtually never runs, so fingers crossed.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,057

    stickguy said:

    if I end up with another basement when I move, if it isn't already finished, I would do a mini job. Put down a vinyl flooring, with a few cheap throw rugs. Paint the ceiling black (joists, etc.). And paint the walls white. And don't put anything down there worth much. Just the exercise stuff and a TV on a stand.

    that way you can still use it, but if it gets wet, no big deal.

    Or maybe build on a hill with no streams nearby.
    +1

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,057
    mjfloyd1 said:

    Would the waterproof vinyl that looks like wood work at all (after you get thoroughly dried out)?

    That's something I'm going to look into.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,873

    stickguy said:

    if I end up with another basement when I move, if it isn't already finished, I would do a mini job. Put down a vinyl flooring, with a few cheap throw rugs. Paint the ceiling black (joists, etc.). And paint the walls white. And don't put anything down there worth much. Just the exercise stuff and a TV on a stand.

    that way you can still use it, but if it gets wet, no big deal.

    Or maybe build on a hill with no streams nearby.
    That's no guarantee. Leaky basements can happen regardless of flood waters. Ground water, storm sewer backups, bad gutters, etc. If they only thing we had to worry about was floods, no big deal.

    That said, 23 years here and still dry. ;)

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,057
    corvette said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    Would the waterproof vinyl that looks like wood work at all (after you get thoroughly dried out)?

    I second this recommendation, it seems to be pretty indestructible.
    The Vinyl Plank Flooring is what you are talking about?

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,057

    @kyfdx said:
    Yes... looks just like wood laminate, but flexible and waterproof. Don't be fooled by wood laminates that say they are waterproof. They aren't.

    Dumb question that I already know the answer to, but the concrete needs to be level underneath, correct?

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,897
    nyccarguy said:


    Dumb question that I already know the answer to, but the concrete needs to be level underneath, correct?

    Yes, but they make a floor leveling compound you can put down if it's not. You can also get sheet vinyl that looks like wood--most of it is less textured and less convincing than the vinyl plank stuff, but it's also extremely durable. Less DIY-friendly, but a pro can glue it down pretty quickly.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,058
    Use the vinyl engineered planks that float. Helps even out for any dips. But yes, first use some self leveling stuff to even it out.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,304

    @nyccarguy said:
    That's something I'm going to look into.

    That’s what we are going to use to replace the basement carpet. We have a weird leak issue. Several tiles in the drop ceiling are stained but the upper floors are fine. No plumbing issues either.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,058

    @nyccarguy said:

    That's something I'm going to look into.

    That’s what we are going to use to replace the basement carpet. We have a weird leak issue. Several tiles in the drop ceiling are stained but the upper floors are fine. No plumbing issues either.


    I had that issue. Turned out to just be a pipe sweating.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,959
    stickguy said:

    @nyccarguy said:

    That's something I'm going to look into.

    That’s what we are going to use to replace the basement carpet. We have a weird leak issue. Several tiles in the drop ceiling are stained but the upper floors are fine. No plumbing issues either.

    I had that issue. Turned out to just be a pipe sweating.

    Geez, Stick, don't work that pipe so hard! Poor thing. :D

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,076

    @nyccarguy said:

    That's something I'm going to look into.

    That’s what we are going to use to replace the basement carpet. We have a weird leak issue. Several tiles in the drop ceiling are stained but the upper floors are fine. No plumbing issues either.


    Just stop popping those Champagne corks every time you buy a new car and you’ll be fine. :p

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,810
    stickguy said:

    Use the vinyl engineered planks that float. Helps even out for any dips. But yes, first use some self leveling stuff to even it out.

    That self leveling stuff is expensive when they have to use like 25 bags of it in your small house. Talk about blowing the original flooring estimate budget!
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,058
    Basement should be easier. Don’t have to be as exact. And can spot use it for the really bad spots.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,532
    mjfloyd1 said:
    That poor guy gets blamed for everything. But, that’s what happens when you set the bar. :(

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,089

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  • jpp75jpp75 DenverMember Posts: 1,493
    mjfloyd1 said:
    Actually @breld and I both have reservations for one, but I have to admit my interest has waned in the last few months. Lots of poor communication from the company coupled with enjoying the Defender much more than I expected has cooled my enthusiasm. I'll still keep my reservation, but we'll see if I actually take delivery when my turn in line comes up.
  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,513

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,959
    stickguy said:

    Basement should be easier. Don’t have to be as exact. And can spot use it for the really bad spots.

    Up here a bag of self-leveling is about $30 Cdn. That does 40 sq ft at 1/8" thickness. So you will use a lot of it if there is a lot of uneven slab to deal with.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,125

    Purely academic.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,948
    @jpp75 joined my wife and I at the Denver Auto Show this afternoon (@michaell unfortunately was not able to make it).

    “Auto Show” is a bit of an overstatement. Given the environment, it was held outdoors at an amusement park parking lot, after skipping last year. All of about 6 manufacturers were represented - Jeep, Dodge, Toyota, Lincoln, Ford and Kia. Jeep did have their usual driving experience set up and there was an area promoting electric.

    Sadly, these shows seemed to be somewhat on the decline prior to the pandemic, and I think this may simply signal the end…at least the insignificant ones in places like Denver.

    I did snap a few pics to share, though there’s nothing all that interesting…a pic of the Maverick (for @stickguy and others interested in the truck)…the new Jeep products were impressive…a GT version of the Mach E…and a Bronco and Bronco Sport.










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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,058
    thanks for thinking of me! I assume you couldn't get into it?

    kinda looks bigger than I think it really is in pictures. Can't wait to see one in person!

    And that grand Wagoneer, especially the black one, is huge and really ugly from the side. The whole back end is oversized, awkward, and IMO unattractive.

    so it will probably sell like gang busters!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,897
    Really like that dark red color on the Maverick. Unfortunately, I don't think it's available on the XL, although a premium looking color like that might look odd combined with the pedestrian steel wheels on the XL.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,058
    it is nice. That might be the first edition specific red.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,464
    I wanted to go, but I took a COVID test today and it will be a few days before I get the results.

    Looks like I didn’t miss that much.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,051
    Walked out earlier tonight and saw the lift off of the folks going into space. Since we live southwest of Orlando, was easy to look to the northeast and did see it going up. It was truly spectacular to watch it go farther up into the atmosphere. Had seen a launch in the mid 80's, a daytime one, from a condo building on my mail route in Boca Raton Florida and it was easy to see and pretty cool. Tonight's launch was easier to see & much cooler!

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,051
    Drove a brand new Kia Niro EV today at work and it drives like a regular vehicle as I was able to use both the accelerator to go forward and the brakes to stop it. No having to feather the accelerator to move the vehicle and it doesn't stop like a rock when one gets off the gas pedal. Was a much more normal way to drive and think I could get used to it very quickly. It stickered for just over $41K which is a bit too pricey for what one gets, thinking it should be priced much lower, somewhere in the mid to upper $20's to be honest! Most folks can't afford the entry price of that much to be honest. It did drive nicely and the size was about perfect for my needs but again, the price would drive me away to be honest.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,848

    I think the Wagoneer would look better in a lighter color without black wheels.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,051
    Saw those Jetta alloys on OfferUp and really do like them. Asking $180 for the set and not sure if they'd take my current ones for a trade or not. Would think I could trade mine and have them mount & balance the tires and call it even but will have to stop by one day soon & see what I can work out. Would have to see them in person to see their condition and all but they'd definitely give my Golf a whole different look which I think I'd like. Spend a little bit to change the looks and all and make me fall in love with it all over again. Think they came off a 2019 Jetta SEL and ad says they're 17" Jetta wheels so should fit my Golf since my current alloys are off a 2015 Jetta.
    An inexpensive way to change the looks a bit, definitely something I'd like to do. I know the wife will think it's a dumb idea but I think it's a great idea honestly. Be like driving a newer model VW!

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  • jpp75jpp75 DenverMember Posts: 1,493
    edited September 15
    tifighter said:



    Um, I might have a reservation too. Y'know, for research purposes.

    :D

    I know the Bellevue "service center" is pretty much open, the location here in Denver is being renovated but likely has a few months to go before it's ready. Early reviews from Motor Trend have been very favorable but I'm more interested in some real world reviews from owners and some of the more tolerable YouTube personalities.

    In the end I'll overlook the issues I have with the company and focus on the vehicle. I think I shared on here a while back that after a couple of trips this summer to more remote parts of Colorado I'm mainly rethinking if I want to live with some of the sacrifices that will be required as a (somewhat) early adopter of EVs when it comes to road trips. Granted the R1S is rated at 316 miles, but if you get too far off the interstates you really have to be judicious about where you're going, how you'll charge, etc. Certainly doesn't hurt to have the Defender as the alternative. First world problems for sure.
  • jpp75jpp75 DenverMember Posts: 1,493
    As @breld mentioned the auto show was very different from years past but still an enjoyable event. Toyota did have the Corolla Cross whatever, seems like a decent alternative but IIRC the one they had was priced a bit over $30k which seems like a lot for any type of Corolla.

    The Grand Wagoneer is definitely huge, will probably compete well with the Navigator.

    As for the Maverick, it was on a platform and not accessible but I found the size to be the goldilocks....not to small but not too big. If Ford doesn't bungle the launch (big if these days) I can see it being quite a hit. @stickguy and others who have a reservation, I think you'll be happy with it.

    All in all a good day with @breld and mrs. @breld!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,057

    I really like the Maverick in red. I saw a Black Mach E on the way home the other night. Very nice looking car.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,897
    Hoovie's latest video is of the restored K5 Blazer his parents recently purchased. That thing is gorgeous--shame about the fluid leaks and the very badly misaligned driver's door, as it otherwise looks pretty amazing.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,058
    I watched that too. At least easy fixes.

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,513
    edited September 16
    The more I see the Maverick, the more I like it.

    I’ve seen other pics of the Wagoneer and it looks much better in a different color combo. I don’t care for that blacked out one though. The interior is incredible.

    Grand Cherokee L is pretty nice looking too.

    I’ve noticed a couple of Mach E’s around. Pretty nice and one was hauling the mail when it passed me.

    Forgot to mention I saw a Santa Cruz on the road Sunday. Like the Maverick, bigger than I thought but still a nice size. This one was black over black which isn’t a favorite. I’d lean towards the Maverick.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,076

    Walked out earlier tonight and saw the lift off of the folks going into space. Since we live southwest of Orlando, was easy to look to the northeast and did see it going up. It was truly spectacular to watch it go farther up into the atmosphere. Had seen a launch in the mid 80's, a daytime one, from a condo building on my mail route in Boca Raton Florida and it was easy to see and pretty cool. Tonight's launch was easier to see & much cooler!

    I saw a space shuttle launch from my hotel in Orlando back in 1995 while visiting Disney. I was surprised that you could see it from that far away.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,076
    edited September 16
    breld said:

    @jpp75 joined my wife and I at the Denver Auto Show this afternoon (@michaell unfortunately was not able to make it).

    “Auto Show” is a bit of an overstatement. Given the environment, it was held outdoors at an amusement park parking lot, after skipping last year. All of about 6 manufacturers were represented - Jeep, Dodge, Toyota, Lincoln, Ford and Kia. Jeep did have their usual driving experience set up and there was an area promoting electric.

    Sadly, these shows seemed to be somewhat on the decline prior to the pandemic, and I think this may simply signal the end…at least the insignificant ones in places like Denver.

    I did snap a few pics to share, though there’s nothing all that interesting…a pic of the Maverick (for @stickguy and others interested in the truck)…the new Jeep products were impressive…a GT version of the Mach E…and a Bronco and Bronco Sport.










    So the Mach E GT is out? Is that the performance version? I always though that would be the one I’d lease.

    Yes that Maverick looks big. Almost like a Ranger.

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