Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

What's the difference between a flipper and a curbstoner?

I know up here the DMV is constantly chasing down the latter for failure to have a dealer license.

In my state you can sell 5 cars a year without a license.

qbrozen

Wouldn’t mind this as my toy.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/fb8a2ff3-6b17-4bb0-bcef-f37f963491a2?aff=share_other

corvette

Got the lease extension letter from US Bank. No mention of waiving the dispo fee, or any other specific terms, other than the max extension of six months. I’ll try to call them next week.

jmonroe1

@kyfdx said:
Technically, yes.

Let’s not get “technical” about this. 😧

jmonroe

nyccarguy

To everyone who celebrates - Merry Christmas!

Michaell

Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:



Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

nyccarguy

@Michaell said:
Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:

Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

They are happy! That’s all that matters (and they can afford the payment).

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

@Michaell said:

Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:

Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

They are happy! That’s all that matters (and they can afford the payment).

I know my stepson works 20-30 hours of overtime each week; I don’t think the payment is a problem.

graphicguy

qbrozen said:

Wouldn’t mind this as my toy.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/fb8a2ff3-6b17-4bb0-bcef-f37f963491a2?aff=share_other

Fun car, with all the right “stuff”. Look at the service history, though. If it’s missing some service, probably need to take a pass. But, if the service is there, it’s some of the most fun you’ll have with your clothes on.

stickguy

High maintenance but super fun

qbrozen

That Milano sold for $8900 yesterday, not to me. Seller couldn’t even tell me if the AC works. Low miles don’t mean everything on an old Italian car, so I let it go.

rayainsw

For qbrozen:
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/vintage-reviews/1960s-vintage-reviews/vintage-rt-review-1967-dodge-coronet-r-t-more-road-than-track/
- Ray
And particularly for those who remember that time,,,

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:



Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

How did the old one get totaled? I hope some old guy in a sleigh didn’t hit them.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

High maintenance but super fun

Buy a case of oil.

tjc78

@Michaell said:
Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:

Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

That looks nice in black!!

jmonroe1

@oldfarmer50 said:
Buy a case of oil.

Make that a 55 gallon drum.

jmonroe

28firefighter

@Michaell said:
Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:

Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

Am I remembering right that their previous car was totaled, too?

qbrozen

@rayainsw said:
For qbrozen:
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/vintage-reviews/1960s-vintage-reviews/vintage-rt-review-1967-dodge-coronet-r-t-more-road-than-track/

• Ray
  And particularly for those who remember that time,,,

Thanks.
I had no idea it was 3800 lb.

28firefighter

So who got a car with a bow for Christmas?

tifighter

No car, but Elon Claus left some nice stocking stuffers in the v11 update-

28firefighter

I don’t understand this software update. They took away my main screen shortcuts for front and rear defrost and heated seats with no option to customize and put them back.

Michaell

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:



Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

How did the old one get totaled? I hope some old guy in a sleigh didn’t hit them.

Nope. Daughter-in-law ran a red and got t-boned by a new Jeep - the guy was driving it home from the dealer.

:facepalm

Michaell

28firefighter said:

@Michaell said:

Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:

Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

Am I remembering right that their previous car was totaled, too?

I’d have to think about that. I know they’ve totaled a couple of other cars over the years.

tifighter

28firefighter said:

I don’t understand this software update. They took away my main screen shortcuts for front and rear defrost and heated seats with no option to customize and put them back.

Yeah, you have to swipe up from the temperature reading now. Or use voice commands, I guess.

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

I almost bought a 2015 Passat TDi instead of the Legacy. That would have been great. I loved the way the Passat drove and the diesel would have been great for my daily slog, but I wanted AWD. I’ve also always been hesitant about VW reliability (even under warranty). If I would have bought that Passat new, I would have cashed in on dieselgate. Instead, I bought a Subaru that I drove for a whole 2 1/2 years very slowly.

Even though reliability wouldn't have been an issue on yours given the buyback opportunity, it's certainly an issue!

My newest on the Q7 is that it failed to start last night after a short stop (about an hour). The way it's behaving, I suspect the engine is locked for some reason. Maybe a hydrolock? It seemed to be running perfectly smooth before I shut it off.

I'm not sure, but I need to drag it home so I can start tearing into it. I don't think it is a minor issue this time around.... Sadly, we are in for a major snow dump (estimates vary between 10 and 20 inches by Monday), so getting it here is going to be a significant undertaking.

xwesx

Michaell said:

Nope. Daughter-in-law ran a red and got t-boned by a new Jeep - the guy was driving it home from the dealer.

:facepalm

Yikes! She's fortunate to be okay; hopefully she pays better attention in the future.

venture

xwesx said:

nyccarguy said:

I almost bought a 2015 Passat TDi instead of the Legacy. That would have been great. I loved the way the Passat drove and the diesel would have been great for my daily slog, but I wanted AWD. I’ve also always been hesitant about VW reliability (even under warranty). If I would have bought that Passat new, I would have cashed in on dieselgate. Instead, I bought a Subaru that I drove for a whole 2 1/2 years very slowly.

Even though reliability wouldn't have been an issue on yours given the buyback opportunity, it's certainly an issue!

My newest on the Q7 is that it failed to start last night after a short stop (about an hour). The way it's behaving, I suspect the engine is locked for some reason. Maybe a hydrolock? It seemed to be running perfectly smooth before I shut it off.

I'm not sure, but I need to drag it home so I can start tearing into it. I don't think it is a minor issue this time around.... Sadly, we are in for a major snow dump (estimates vary between 10 and 20 inches by Monday), so getting it here is going to be a significant undertaking.

* * *

Wow. Good luck with that. It doesn't sound good.

sda

@xwesx Between you and @andres3 your mechanical issues with the Audis is not giving me the warm and fuzzies about long term ownership of our Q5 or VW. I hope it isn’t a serious problem. Bah humbug!

corvette

@xwesx I really hope it's not that! Engine swaps are difficult enough (unless you're a YouTube star), but I can't imagine trying to do one in very cold temperatures.

au1994

Merry Christmas to all that celebrate!

Michaell

xwesx said:

Michaell said:

Nope. Daughter-in-law ran a red and got t-boned by a new Jeep - the guy was driving it home from the dealer.

:facepalm

Yikes! She's fortunate to be okay; hopefully she pays better attention in the future.

More to the story. Apparently, her eyes were looking forward to the next light on the street, which did turn green. Just not the light at the intersection she was currently at.

Remember, she's a brain cancer survivor, so a faux pas every now and again should be expected.

nyccarguy

Not a punch, but the painters/sheet rockers got the job done this week.

nyccarguy

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:



Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

How did the old one get totaled? I hope some old guy in a sleigh didn’t hit them.

Nope. Daughter-in-law ran a red and got t-boned by a new Jeep - the guy was driving it home from the dealer.

:facepalm

Oh the humanity!

corvette

@nyccarguy - basement looks great! And that is a very nice looking gaming chair in front of the TV.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

nyccarguy said:

I almost bought a 2015 Passat TDi instead of the Legacy. That would have been great. I loved the way the Passat drove and the diesel would have been great for my daily slog, but I wanted AWD. I’ve also always been hesitant about VW reliability (even under warranty). If I would have bought that Passat new, I would have cashed in on dieselgate. Instead, I bought a Subaru that I drove for a whole 2 1/2 years very slowly.

Even though reliability wouldn't have been an issue on yours given the buyback opportunity, it's certainly an issue!

My newest on the Q7 is that it failed to start last night after a short stop (about an hour). The way it's behaving, I suspect the engine is locked for some reason. Maybe a hydrolock? It seemed to be running perfectly smooth before I shut it off.

I'm not sure, but I need to drag it home so I can start tearing into it. I don't think it is a minor issue this time around.... Sadly, we are in for a major snow dump (estimates vary between 10 and 20 inches by Monday), so getting it here is going to be a significant undertaking.

Hydrolocked? What would cause that other than driving it through deep water? Even some of those cars with internal water pumps only dump water into the coolant.

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

Not a punch, but the painters/sheet rockers got the job done this week.

Man, I’m jealous. My basement looks like a twister went through it.

oldfarmer50

I’m watching a Mecum auction from Kissimmee FL. right now and it looks like the Resto mod is the big thing now. While original restoration cars are going for less than $100k, some of the resto-mod equivalents are into the $300k range.

I wonder, are these cars a good hedge against inflation?

jmonroe1

@nyccarguy said:
Not a punch, but the painters/sheet rockers got the job done this week.

Very nice. That looks like a nice place for a gathering of your poster buddies.

Good luck with it.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

@oldfarmer50 said:
I’m watching a Mecum auction from Kissimmee FL. right now and it looks like the Resto mod is the big thing now. While original restoration cars are going for less than $100k, some of the resto-mod equivalents are into the $300k range.

I wonder, are these cars a good hedge against inflation?

Who knows? Buy one and let us know how good of an investment it is in 10 years.

jmonroe

imidazol97

Michaell said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:



Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

How did the old one get totaled? I hope some old guy in a sleigh didn’t hit them.

Nope. Daughter-in-law ran a red and got t-boned by a new Jeep - the guy was driving it home from the dealer.

:facepalm

That's too bad. I hope no one was seriously hurt.

The service manager at my local Chevy store had cuts on his face and walked and talked funny when I was in a couple weeks ago. He had 4 cracked ribs among other things. He had Trouble talking and breathing. Back problems. Suing the parents of driver and the driver of the car that T-boned him in his wife's Acura MDX. He felt were he not in the Acura, which protected him with airbags, he would have been worse off.

Michaell

imidazol97 said:

Michaell said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

Saw my stepson and his wife for the first time in over a year today. Turns out they totaled their 2020 Tucson Ultimate a couple of months ago, and had to replace it. Decided to stick with what works, except they upgraded to a 2022:



Also an Ultimate trim, so fully loaded. We didn’t talk price, but suffice it to say they didn’t get a great deal.

He did mention that the issues with their old car were addressed with the makeover.

How did the old one get totaled? I hope some old guy in a sleigh didn’t hit them.

Nope. Daughter-in-law ran a red and got t-boned by a new Jeep - the guy was driving it home from the dealer.

:facepalm

That's too bad. I hope no one was seriously hurt.

The service manager at my local Chevy store had cuts on his face and walked and talked funny when I was in a couple weeks ago. He had 4 cracked ribs among other things. He had Trouble talking and breathing. Back problems. Suing the parents of driver and the driver of the car that T-boned him in his wife's Acura MDX. He felt were he not in the Acura, which protected him with airbags, he would have been worse off.

To my knowledge, no injuries sustained in the collision.

corvette

Ford must have forgotten to give Motor Trend a ringer from the Maverick press fleet. They clocked a 7-second 0-60 in a 2.0T with the FX4 and towing packages (the latter of which has a shorter final drive which should improve performance). Inexplicably, their FWD hybrid tester did the 0-60 sprint in 7.6 seconds.

xwesx

Michaell said:

More to the story. Apparently, her eyes were looking forward to the next light on the street, which did turn green. Just not the light at the intersection she was currently at.

Remember, she's a brain cancer survivor, so a faux pas every now and again should be expected.

I've done that before, and I don't even have the excuse of surviving brain cancer! Thankfully, I didn't end up running the red, but it was a near (and embarrassing) thing.

xwesx

oldfarmer50 said:

Hydrolocked? What would cause that other than driving it through deep water? Even some of those cars with internal water pumps only dump water into the coolant.

Well, I'm not sure. Like I said, it was running just fine (or seemed like it) before I shut it off, so I can't imagine. However, the way it sounds when I try to start it is the exact same as an engine that won't turn (as opposed to a low battery), and it made no difference at all when I set up a jump. I will need to do more testing before I can know with any certainty.

The issue I mentioned before, about the coolant seeping at the EGR valve, apparently can have the side effect of hydrolocking the engine if it lets go in a big way due to the location, which is at the top of the engine, inside the intake, and is located in such a way that if coolant were to leak, it can possibly go into the cylinders. I'm hoping not, but then, if it was, that might be easier than just some mystery. Other possibilities include a locked starter motor. Again, would be odd to just go from fine to dead in one cycle, but I suppose stranger things still have happened.

Either way, it's a little

xwesx

jmonroe1 said:

Very nice. That looks like a nice place for a gathering of your poster buddies.

Good luck with it.

jmonroe

I was thinking the same thing! We need to set a date.

corvette

There is a Ford dealer in Des Moines offering factory orders at $3,000 off MSRP on Mavericks through January 31. Tempting!

jmonroe1

@xwesx said:
I was thinking the same thing! We need to set a date.

OK, let’s make it New Years Eve. I’ll bring the chips and you bring the dip. Now we’ll wait and see who else is coming and what they’re bringing.

FWIW, I go first on the air hockey thingy.

jmonroe

tjc78

@nyccarguy
Glad to see you are on the way to getting the basement back to pre-flood condition. It’s looking good.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Hydrolocked? What would cause that other than driving it through deep water? Even some of those cars with internal water pumps only dump water into the coolant.

Well, I'm not sure. Like I said, it was running just fine (or seemed like it) before I shut it off, so I can't imagine. However, the way it sounds when I try to start it is the exact same as an engine that won't turn (as opposed to a low battery), and it made no difference at all when I set up a jump. I will need to do more testing before I can know with any certainty.

The issue I mentioned before, about the coolant seeping at the EGR valve, apparently can have the side effect of hydrolocking the engine if it lets go in a big way due to the location, which is at the top of the engine, inside the intake, and is located in such a way that if coolant were to leak, it can possibly go into the cylinders. I'm hoping not, but then, if it was, that might be easier than just some mystery. Other possibilities include a locked starter motor. Again, would be odd to just go from fine to dead in one cycle, but I suppose stranger things still have happened.

Either way, it's a little

I don’t blame you for being miffed. Could you pull the plugs and see if you can turn it over with a wrench on the crank? A least that way if it is hydrolocked you won’t be totally destroying the motor.

You have to wonder what engineer would design engine parts where that could happen.