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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,086
    Yup.. love it.

    Unfortunately where I am looking, it’s $1mill+ so just a touch over budget for retirement downsizing!

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,963
    stickguy said:

    Yup.. love it.

    Unfortunately where I am looking, it’s $1mill+ so just a touch over budget for retirement downsizing!

    I bet it's $1Million in Denver, as well

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,961


    That’s great news, do you have a link to that article? The rental companies are desperate because no car maker wants to sell at discount to fleets when they can get above sticker to individuals. Our boss was given authorization to start buying from dealers at sticker but it’s been difficult as the dealers can get above that to retail customers. The only evidence I’ve seen is a rare Honda HR-V which appeared in the fleet recently.

    Here you go:

    https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/nearly-all-gm-plants-us-be-online-next-week

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,573

    @breld - uh, drool.

    I've already claimed one of those garage spots, if I ever get a car for myself.

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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoMember Posts: 707
    @breld, does that get you in to the CC, or do you already belong ;)
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,128
    2 mill + by me unless you go to the way out suburbs that arguably aren't metro seattle anymore...
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,543

    @stickguy said:
    Good thing I only need 3 months in the winter!

    There’s always a guy who knows how to beat the system. 😫

    jmonroe

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,568
    I could have used that garage when we had 6 cars. 3 is enough, for now.
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,128
    au1994 said:

    Some thoughts on the Jeep after a couple of weeks and 400 miles:

    Short version…I love it!

    Average mpg is 33.7 so that tells you most of my miles have been on electricity. But pretty phenomenal for a brick.

    Its surprisingly comfortable. Lack of a dead pedal is annoying but as per usual with the Jeep aftermarket, easily remedied.

    Ride and steering feel are better than the 07 JK I had by a long shot.

    Driving position and windows afford great visibility.

    Infotainment is great. Easy to use, clear display, b/u camera is awesome.

    The power is pretty fun. Nail it and you’ll squeal the tires for sure.

    The stereo kicks! Not a huge audiophile but its better than the Harmon Karden in the BMW,

    Forgot how I missed open air driving.

    That said, the top removal is really a 3 person job. 2 can do it but it induces much pucker factor avoiding scratches or dropping the darn thing. It may run me $600 but a hoist may be in order.

    The freedom panels are great and give the front passengers the convertible feeling. They do take up a good bit of the cargo area or when strapped to the back seat, impede rear visibility. Not totally but enough to be a little annoying.

    Back seat is a little cramped but its still comfortable.

    Again, all in all no complaints from me!

    I echo these sentiments entirely. It is so great and the more I drive it the more I love it.
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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,949
    dad23 said:

    @breld, does that get you in to the CC, or do you already belong ;)

    The HOA dues gets you into the country club, workout facilities and tennis courts, but golf privileges are additional. Which is fine, since neither of us golf. Though my wife wants a golf cart just to drive around. :)

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,058
    @breld

    To quote George Tekkei from The Howard Stern Show (I know, he's Mr Sulu): "Oh my!"

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,949
    Apparently no offer has come in yet, so our agent is drafting one.

    And yes, it's a pricey home, but fortunately our existing home has also benefited from this crazy market. So...just like when trading a car for a new one...it's only the difference that matters. :)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,106

    Wow. Good luck, @breld !

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,516
    Guess @breld is hosting Thanksgiving this year. Dibs on an indoor parking space!

    I prefer Dunkin’ coffee in the morning btw…

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  • coldinohiocoldinohio Member Posts: 159
    good luck;

    love the"side mounted" GDOs; you can add a lift or two and expand fleet!!! then start a youtube channel
    breld said:

    Apparently no offer has come in yet, so our agent is drafting one.

    And yes, it's a pricey home, but fortunately our existing home has also benefited from this crazy market. So...just like when trading a car for a new one...it's only the difference that matters. :)

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,085
    breld said:

    So you all know how dangerous it can be to just "browse" car listings. Well, yesterday, I was talking about houses with a co-worker and that made me curious about what listings there were in my neighborhood, and I happened upon a listing for this house...



    Beautiful house, with all the upgrades and finishes that my wife would like to do to our house.

    You'll of course notice what looks like a 4-car garage, which caught my attention. But...one of those bays is a tandem...so space for 6 cars. From the property description..."There is a 2, 100 square foot garage which includes its own furnace, 220V outlet, room for car lifts and plenty of space to enjoy and entertain."

    I e-mail the listing to my wife, who responds quickly, "Oh, I've been eyeing that listing for days now. How serious are you?"

    Long story short...we visited the house last night with our realtor. It hits all the right design notes for my wife (and myself too), and the garage is exquisite. There's easily room for 6 vehicles, with tons of room to spare. We are interested, but the listing agent was expecting an offer last night, so we're waiting to see what comes of that. We are not interested in competing in any bidding war.

    This had me drooling...


    Looks like Hoovie’s.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,086
    Actually does. Could put a nice double decker rack in the back.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,086
    The crazy YouTube Maverick owner dude just posted a long towing video. Not concerned with required breaks period. Or tow ratings. But good to know a 2.0t without the 4K tow package can apparently tow a u haul weighing about 3,500 pounds loaded without breaking a sweat. Even the FWD should easily handle 2K.

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  • greg128greg128 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 1
    stickguy said:

    Yes. He also has a gorgeous 1988 T Bird turbo coupe with about 48K on it that looks brand new. Only $17,999

    I had one of those with the 5sp and enjoyed it until the head gasket blew. As I recall I paid about $4500 for it with 50XXX miles in early to mid 1990's and maybe a year and a half or so later after getting a quote of $1200 for the repair I decided to do it myself including sending out the head to be redone. A few months earlier I replaced a leaking heater core DYI that required removal of the dash which was also a [non-permissible content removed] of a job but I saved a ton on labor on both jobs. After those 2 issues I lost confidence and sold it with around 65XXX miles for about $3500. But I loved the look and the ride and although it was moderately quick for its time by today's standards it was slow.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,058
    Technical question for those of you who are more mechanically inclined than I (the overwhelming majority). I recently joined a HONDA PRELUDE facebook group. Someone suggested that since I have to change my timing belt & tensioner (among other things), that I should use an aftermarket "manual tensioner" instead of the factory OEM "auto tensioner." A few people said that the OEM "auto tensioner" is a common failure point, even when replaced preventatively with each timing belt change.

    Here's a link to the "maunal tensioner:"

    https://www.kstuned.com/products/h22-timing-tensioner

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,106

    @nyccarguy said:
    Technical question for those of you who are more mechanically inclined than I (the overwhelming majority). I recently joined a HONDA PRELUDE facebook group. Someone suggested that since I have to change my timing belt & tensioner (among other things), that I should use an aftermarket "manual tensioner" instead of the factory OEM "auto tensioner." A few people said that the OEM "auto tensioner" is a common failure point, even when replaced preventatively with each timing belt change.

    Here's a link to the "maunal tensioner:"

    https://www.kstuned.com/products/h22-timing-tensioner

    Hmmm… I don’t think I like the idea of me being responsible for just how tight the belt is. A little off one way or the other and BOOM. Hasn’t someone made a superior hydraulic tensioner?

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,568
    That was an interesting video. Not sure how I feel about the guy taking off the not needed engine parts. Why did the factory put them on there in the first place?
    Nyc should ask his mechanic how he feels about the manual tensioner.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,086
    my take, leave it the way Honda designed it. At most, get an aftermarket improved hydraulic unit if you are worried about it. But it has been 20 years and a lot of miles with no issues, so why worry now? Not like you put many miles on it.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,021
    Really, just how failure prone are the Honda parts? I think like so many things discussed on forums, exaggerations galore. Stay with oem Honda.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,128

    On certain German makes I’ve heard of legitimate failure points where there is an improved part. But I’m not sure this is one where I’d listen to the keyboard experts.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,310
    qbrozen said:

    breld said:



    Did I miss something about you moving to a new house?

    vacation condo in myrtle beach. i probably kept those comments on the other thread.
    Congrats! As I've said, if someone offers me all the money for the farm we are building a home on Seabrook Island SC.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,310
    A friend of mine owns this complex:





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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,058

    @roadburner said:
    A friend of mine owns this complex:

    Wow!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,906
    qbrozen said:


    Both. A property manager is meeting me there Monday.

    Wow, neat looking place! Do you plan to road trip there, or fly?

    I hope it works out well as a rental. My experience has been that property managers are a very mixed bag. Managing a property for someone else is often a very low margin business that requires a lot of labor.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,906
    edited October 1
    stickguy said:

    That’s not supposed to be published yet.

    Which is why I'm watching it before it gets nuked.

    Edit: Ope, apparently a Ford dealer just lent one out to a couple of guys with a bunch of camera equipment? I bet they get a nasty phone call from corporate.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,086
    I thought they were legit. Kept talking about truecar and stuff.

    but can't blame the dealers. they have stock for sale units now, so makes sense they would be given out for test drives.

    once retail sales happened and actual owners were posting videos, the embargo should have been lifted. Somebody at Ford screwed up estimating when cars were going to be out in public.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,906
    @breld - good luck with the offer! I'm sure with the upgraded garage, you could increase the size of your fleet.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,234
    Even in Spokane that would easily be seven figures.

    2 mill + by me unless you go to the way out suburbs that arguably aren't metro seattle anymore...

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,106
    edited October 2

    @corvette said:
    Wow, neat looking place! Do you plan to road trip there, or fly?

    I hope it works out well as a rental. My experience has been that property managers are a very mixed bag. Managing a property for someone else is often a very low margin business that requires a lot of labor.

    Thanks.
    We’ll see how it goes. I certainly don’t want to manage it myself.
    I’m flying down tomorrow. When we go as a fam, we are currently talking about splitting up, at least for this first trip. Otherwise, we may need 2 vehicles to bring down that initial stash of stuff. Makes more sense to spend $150 on two plane tickets.

    The flip side is that I really wanted to bring the Jeep down for some offroading.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,858

    @breld
    Wow that is gorgeous! Best of luck.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,858

    @stickguy said:
    Here’s one for you low mile, luxury land yacht fans.

    https://www.euroasianauto.com/details/used-1983-lincoln-mark-vi/79550462

    Nice example… but I’m just not a huge fan of those in 4 door. The Mark should have stayed two door only.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,055
    Feel just the opposite here, think that 4-door Mark looks great. All I'd swap out is the alloys for a nicer set. But I really like it. We had a couple of Lincoln's growing up, the '66 with the suicide doors was outstanding looking and a couple vehicles later, the '72 2-door coupe in whit over white. My mom had a '70 Caddy drop top and had a bad skid in a torrential rainstorm and the next day, went over to the Lincoln dealer and traded the Caddy in all over the phone with my dad at the country club. Thought she was crazy as I loved that '70 Caddy drop top and I drove it a couple of times in the high schools homecoming parade as the lead vehicle.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,858

    What wheel would you swap for? Those lacey spokes were one of the top options. You could get the real wire wheels, but I prefer the Lacey or Turbines

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,858
    edited October 2

    I was just poking around on LH and wow is all I can say. An equivalent build XC90 like ours is over $120 more a month same terms. Crazy.

    Also noticed that Volvo no longer offers the S60 in the T6 power train. S60 deals are about $50 more a month than I’m paying for a $5000 less MSRP.

    So glad I have until August to think about replacing it. I certainly won’t be looking at the S60 with less power and almost a second less to 60.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,106

    Van shopping this morn.
    Checked out the converted Transit first. I was less than thrilled. Felt slapped together. I expect more for the markup involved. And, to top it off, I don’t fit comfortably in the driver’s seat. Figure that one out.

    The most annoying part was the salesman. Every criticism of ours was met with “its a cargo van!” To which I finally replied, “for $25k of add-ons, that argument doesn’t fly. I didn’t expect an $80k vehicle to have rattles, a nontelescopic wheel, and no keyless go.”

    Anyway, wife spotted a benz dealer nearby and asked me to swing in. Of course, nothing available, but they had a cargo Sprint we could at least sit in. Instantly, we both felt more at home. The base cloth seat in the benz was far superior to the cushy upgrades in the ford.

    Also glanced at the Promasters at Ram. They don’t seem to give a single thought to driver comfort. Mind you, I still liked the seats better than the ford, but even the upgraded ones only slid forward and aft and reclined. No tilt nor height adjustments. Weird. Oh and the steering wheel also had no tilt and was angled upward like a bus. Not great.

    So, even without driving one, she is all about the Benz, I think even if it won’t fit in the condo garage. :(

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,021
    Has the mechanic circled back with what he has found on your ML?

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,949

    Well, doesn’t look like we’ll be hosting Thanksgiving for the CCBA group this year.

    The seller came back with a couple requests this morning…full list price and a slightly quicker closing. We hadn’t offered much less than list price, so both of those conditions were acceptable and we quickly submitted a new offer only to be ghosted for 5 hours until they finally said they had an all cash offer with closing in 2 weeks.

    Possible they’re bluffing, but probably not.

    All is fair, but we sure thought we were getting it for a short time this afternoon.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,106

    @breld said:
    Well, doesn’t look like we’ll be hosting Thanksgiving for the CCBA group this year.

    The seller came back with a couple requests this morning…full list price and a slightly quicker closing. We hadn’t offered much less than list price, so both of those conditions were acceptable and we quickly submitted a new offer only to be ghosted for 5 hours until they finally said they had an all cash offer with closing in 2 weeks.

    Possible they’re bluffing, but probably not.

    All is fair, but we sure thought we were getting it for a short time this afternoon.

    Sorry to hear it. My wife would say “it wasn’t meant to be.” Or something like that.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6. 56-car history and counting!

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,106

    @sda said:
    Has the mechanic circled back with what he has found on your ML?

    Nope

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6. 56-car history and counting!

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,543

    @qbrozen said:
    Van shopping this morn.
    Checked out the converted Transit first. I was less than thrilled. Felt slapped together. I expect more for the markup involved. And, to top it off, I don’t fit comfortably in the driver’s seat. Figure that one out.

    The most annoying part was the salesman. Every criticism of ours was met with “its a cargo van!” To which I finally replied, “for $25k of add-ons, that argument doesn’t fly. I didn’t expect an $80k vehicle to have rattles, a nontelescopic wheel, and no keyless go.”

    Anyway, wife spotted a benz dealer nearby and asked me to swing in. Of course, nothing available, but they had a cargo Sprint we could at least sit in. Instantly, we both felt more at home. The base cloth seat in the benz was far superior to the cushy upgrades in the ford.

    Also glanced at the Promasters at Ram. They don’t seem to give a single thought to driver comfort. Mind you, I still liked the seats better than the ford, but even the upgraded ones only slid forward and aft and reclined. No tilt nor height adjustments. Weird. Oh and the steering wheel also had no tilt and was angled upward like a bus. Not great.

    So, even without driving one, she is all about the Benz, I think even if it won’t fit in the condo garage. :(

    SNOB. ;)

    jmonroe

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,543

    @breld said:
    Well, doesn’t look like we’ll be hosting Thanksgiving for the CCBA group this year.

    The seller came back with a couple requests this morning…full list price and a slightly quicker closing. We hadn’t offered much less than list price, so both of those conditions were acceptable and we quickly submitted a new offer only to be ghosted for 5 hours until they finally said they had an all cash offer with closing in 2 weeks.

    Possible they’re bluffing, but probably not.

    All is fair, but we sure thought we were getting it for a short time this afternoon.

    You don’t feel any worse than we do. Maybe you can over bid and get it before it’s too late. Otherwise our wives are going to have to remember how to make that bird this year. I shouldn’t have said anything before it was a done deal. 😫

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,086
    I don't remember the Transit being uncomfortable on the 1,000 miles I put on it one weekend. But I was paying $52/day to rent, not $80k to own! Not Acura or Lexus seats by any stretch, but I have had a lot worse. And this was the high roof version, so headroom, not an issue. Considering I could stand straight up and not hit anything.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,086
    I know white over black is not a favored combo, but is an M4 suitable? 3 pedals, no opening roof, seems to have the right stuff!

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/36Waza4Z/2021-bmw-m4-coupe

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