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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,007
    andres3 said:

    sda said:

    @andres3 Any update on the S4 status?

    See above.
    Is it feasible to have your indie rebuild your engine? Perhaps sell the car immediately once completed?

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,888
    andres3 said:

    Of course, are the free loaners "written" anywhere? That's a good part of why I prefer Audi to VW.

    Nope, not a written promise anywhere. My parents are taking the Q5 in for service next month and the service writer "put them down as requesting a loaner," but said that was contingent on them not having any car haulers delayed between now and then. Of course, if there is an overnight warranty repair, I think most if not all manufacturers provide that they will pay for a rental in that instance.
    qbrozen said:

    Took a few attempts, but I can report that the Escape's interior actually smells pleasant now.

    After seeing some of the YT detail dudes do it, I'm a big fan of using diluted laundry detergent in a spray bottle + cordless drill + a nylon brush on the fabrics. That cleaned up the Prius pretty well, but not perfect. It smells great now. I also found a very old dead mouse and its bed in the spare tire well. Is this some kind of Toyota thing? I suspect the owner left a door or the hatch open for an extended period of time when it was cold outside.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,888
    On the Tesla tire situation, I've noticed faster wear in general with luxury vehicles which tend to have a heavier curb weight. They also tend to have more aggressive alignment settings to make them feel more planted to the ground, which can also increase wear.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,059
    qbrozen said:



    Admit it, isn’t playing around with a cheap hooptie a lot of fun?

    Only if it remains cosmetic. ha. When you gotta start tearing into the mechanicals, it gets real tired real quick.
    When you gotta start tearing into the mechanicals you leave it on the side of road and walk home with the plates. Easy peasy. :D

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068

    I hope anyone still considering an Audi has learned a lesson here.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6. 56-car history and counting!

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,221
    Buy an existing firm/tech and take personal credit, I can see it now.

    To be fair, they do seem to be putting money back in, I have read that early vs new Model 3s have night and day build quality differences.
    stickguy said:

    Elon needs to hurry up and introduce that levitation drive system. Like a hovercraft.

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 5,945
    Michaell said:


    I’ll disagree with your last point. Most of Tesla’s profits come from selling energy credits to other car companies; although I don’t have proof, my guess is that the sales aspect of the company is not generating any profit.

    "....Tesla sold enough cars and energy products to turn a profit even without counting the sale of emissions credits to other automakers — a milestone for the company. This was the eighth profitable quarter in a row for Tesla, but the first where it can truly say it’s a profitable automaker."

    https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/26/22594778/tesla-q2-2021-earnings-revenue-profit-credits-emissions-bitcoin

    That was the period ending in the summer. For the latest quarter things were better.

    "Tesla’s quarterly profit nearly quintuples to $1.6 billion as car sales surge.
    By Neal E. Boudette
    Oct. 20, 2021
    Tesla made $1.6 billion in the three months ending in September, the second quarter in a row that its profit has exceeded the billion-dollar mark.The bottom-line figure exceeded the $1.1 billion it made in the second quarter and was nearly five times its profit from the third quarter of 2020. A portion of Tesla’s profit comes from selling regulatory credits to automakers that need them to meet emission standards. Tesla reported $279 million in sales of such credits in the third quarter, compared with $397 million in the third quarter of 2020."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/business/tesla-earnings.html

    Even with these better results the stock seems overvalued. Ten more years of blockbuster success seems to be priced in already, but perhaps that will happen. I honestly don't know much about such things. I don't own any individual stocks.
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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 5,945
    edited October 27
    andres3 said:

    Finding an engine is doable. Finding an engine that's got less than 50K miles seems to be impossible. Finding a seller that stands behind what they're selling is a tall order too.

    Vendors range from "as-is, to 30 days, to 60 days, to 90 days, to 6 months, to the typical 1 year 12k repair warranty, but those suppliers are fresh out of 3.0T Audi motors.

    New motor order = 4-weeks from Germany assuming the boat doesn't get lost in the Bermuda triangle or stuck at the Port waiting in line.

    Tough situation.

    From my pov I'm not sure I'd pour more money into that car, but I realize the loses are big.

    Just my 2 cents, but I might get a new car of a different brand.

    In any case, hang in there. At least it's just a material thing.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2018 Honda CR-V EX AWD (wife's)
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,888
    qbrozen said:

    I hope anyone still considering an Audi has learned a lesson here.


  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,118

    @breld said:
    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    I guess offering you $50k for the Tesla won’t get it done. Hahahaha.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,535
    Has Tesla started using GAAP accounting?
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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 5,945
    I was probably always too practical to own an Audi, but like Mercedes and BMW it was one of the brands I admired for their designs. But hearing about an Audi engine destroying itself at 43,000 miles is a shock. I'm still wondering where the engineering flaw and/or manufacturing defect might have been. ICE engines are so complicated these days that I suppose it's amazing that most of them work as well as they do.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068

    @breld said:
    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    Too soon to count out the Allroad. She’ll tire of the sedan long before it arrives. Unfortunately, you’ll likely take a hit on the bimmer when you trade it so soon.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6. 56-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    my son loves him. But it is a lease. and while he has mentioned a few times maybe buying it out at the end (still in that early infatuation stage) I will strongly push him to consider a different option at lease end.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    qbrozen said:

    @breld said:

    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    Too soon to count out the Allroad. She’ll tire of the sedan long before it arrives. Unfortunately, you’ll likely take a hit on the bimmer when you trade it so soon.


    I'll give him $40k for it.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,318
    stickguy said:

    qbrozen said:

    @breld said:

    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    Too soon to count out the Allroad. She’ll tire of the sedan long before it arrives. Unfortunately, you’ll likely take a hit on the bimmer when you trade it so soon.

    I'll give him $40k for it.

    Nah, it’ll be worth more as it will have options on it that you can’t get on a new one..

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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 5,945
    edited October 28
    In this recent video this mechanic disassembles a failed Audi 3.0 engine. The video has some annoying music/effects/zooms, but starting at 6:15 he explains what he believes is the cause, which was a failed catalytic converter. He says this is a common problem with these engines. Once things aren't flowing through the engine, if I'm understanding correctly, the high pressure backup causes a cascade effect that can suddenly destroy a lot of stuff in the engine.

    In two other videos I've seen of teardowns of failed 2.0 Audi engines the weak point was the breakage of the timing chain tensioner, which has also been identified as a common problem.



    Here are a few of the comments on the video....

    "This is the very first time I've heard of a stuck catalytic convertor fail on these engines yet I'm sure you said it was a common issue? Can you confirm? Also a first seeing one of these engines fail, not a pretty sight! :(

    VAG Technic
    1 month ago
    Yes , everyone is putting dedicated pipes on Ideal :) have a look at the footage , unfortunately the lambda is placed in the middle

    Shane H
    1 month ago (edited)
    Cat failures are common due to the heat produced.. most people usually install Test Pipes before this happens as they tune them, or like in the vid, gut the cats and reweld them as they sound terrible with no cats, and pop some cats near the resonators....

    It's very common, as evidenced by any forum/group related to the 3.0t engine. Even HJS cats have failed in this location. Downstream relocation or complete cat delete is the only legit answer.

    Wes Hinchcliffe
    1 month ago
    @VAG Technic What is it about the o2 sensor's location that you think is making the cats fail? The theory that seems to get the most support is simply EGTs in that location are beyond what they can handle. Even aftermarket HJS converters have failed when installed in that location. It's great for getting them up to temp quickly, but it's just too close to the engine for frequent hard driving and aggressive pulley ratios, etc."
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019

    Much easier to pull and check the cats than the engine at least.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,054
    qbrozen said:

    I hope anyone still considering an Audi has learned a lesson here.

    I've always been skeptical of Audi/VW products. I know there are a lot of people "out there" who buy, drive, & love them. I just know way too many stories in my circle to ever justify owning one. @andres3 Blown S4 engine, @breld failed clutch slave cylinder, my best friend's 2002 A4 that was in for service 40 times over the course of a 39 month lease, my sister's 2000 VR6 Jetta that needed a new transmission after 3 weeks, the faulty coil packs from the factory, then the replacements failed as well...

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    The ones in my family never had any real issues. But that was 2 mid-2010s Jetta leases, a 3 year ownership of a 2019 (that was perfect over 40k miles), 2 years on an A3 (no issues) and 7 months on an S4 lease. Nothing from older, really problematic, generations.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,007
    Based on previous experience with VW/Audi I was hesitant when we bought the Q5. It had been almost 10 years since I sold the troublesome 06 Passat. The oil burning and time chain issue supposedly has been resolved on the 2.0t. I bought a comprehensive extended warranty on the Q5 to 105k, and the Passat is CP0 to 84k or 8/25. Both have been great so far. They will get a quick boot if they show their behind.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,772
    @breld 's old GTI is perfect! ;)

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 3,883
    7+ months, 5600 miles and no Audi A7e issues so far. Well, beyond the bloody fingerprints on the main screen! Thank goodness for the designer Audi screen wipe included in the "We know the fingerprints will drive you nuts, so for only $300 we'll rip you off with the interior protection package, Laurasdada" option. It works hard for my money.

    Spent a couple of free nights at Mohegan Sun casino, free tank of electricity. Met assorted oddities of people (likely same said of me) including one healthy looking, broadly smiling couple who have been retired now eight years. He said they've never been more active. And I continue to toil for The Man.

    Why do I enjoy that place so?

    A fond, but bittersweet adieu to my '13 Jaguar XF. And so, I present this laurel, and hearty handshake to the new boss; '21 Audi A7 PHEV. '09 Jag XK , '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco ; all special to me. And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... I've yet to buy a car I didn't like. Although, do I really want to drive a car that would have someone such as me as its owner?

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,511

    @kyfdx said:
    @breld 's old GTI is perfect! ;)

    OLD for @breld? What does that really mean? :s

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,772
    jmonroe1 said:

    @kyfdx said:
    @breld 's old GTI is perfect! ;)

    OLD for @breld? What does that really mean? :s

    jmonroe


    He used to own it.. now, I do. ;)

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,511

    @kyfdx said:
    He used to own it.. now, I do. ;)

    That doesn’t count. B)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068

    From what I have seen and experienced, VWs are generally less troublesome than Audis. And, of course, as would stand to reason, the lower-end Audis follow the VWs more closely. So a FWD A3 2.0T has similar reliability to a GTI. That kind of thing.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,948
    To be fair, I'm quite sure there are some horror stories out there of blown engines and catastrophic failures with a BMW, but this experience from @andres3 does hit closer to home for all of us who participate on this forum.

    So are Audis really more prone to failure than the other German brands? That's a sincere question.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,118
    I have no basis for my opinion other than I just don't see as many old Audis floating around as I do the other brands...
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  • tifightertifighter WAMember Posts: 2,949
    If we're doing Audi day today, let's kick it off with an old classic-


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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,508
    breld said:

    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    Congrats! That sounds like a good combo and can’t wait to hear some impressions a few miles down the road. Unless the sticker was previously marked up, 3k off is not shabby here in crazy times.

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,508
    tifighter said:

    If we're doing Audi day today, let's kick it off with an old classic-


    That’s definitely the hardest I’ve laughed today.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    au1994 said:

    breld said:

    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    Congrats! That sounds like a good combo and can’t wait to hear some impressions a few miles down the road. Unless the sticker was previously marked up, 3k off is not shabby here in crazy times.
    Even cheaper considering the profit on the Tesla.

    Strange times we live in.

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,508

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,948
    au1994 said:

    breld said:

    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    Congrats! That sounds like a good combo and can’t wait to hear some impressions a few miles down the road. Unless the sticker was previously marked up, 3k off is not shabby here in crazy times.
    Thanks! I was pleasantly surprised that they were offering a $1,500 dealer discount off MSRP on top of a $1,000 BMW incentive and another $500 for BMW loyalty; and no additional dealer handling charges or the like. I spoke with another local dealer and their no-haggle price was simply MSRP (though I assume dealer rebates would be honored).

    It seems to me that the BMW dealers in particular are using the current environment to adopt a model going forward of special orders with nominal discounts.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068

    @breld said:
    To be fair, I'm quite sure there are some horror stories out there of blown engines and catastrophic failures with a BMW, but this experience from @andres3 does hit closer to home for all of us who participate on this forum.

    So are Audis really more prone to failure than the other German brands? That's a sincere question.

    Just depends. They have all had their duds, especially the higher performance models. See any v12 bimmer or benz for proof. However, I don’t believe there is any 6-cyl Audi I would trust over a 6-cyl from the others.

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,508
    BMW V12’s, BMW V8’s even the HPFP issue on the I6. I’ve always said owning a high end German make out of warranty is not for the feint of heart. They are definitely not a 22r Toyota that goes 300k on oil changes alone.

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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 5,945
    edited October 28
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/10/28/used-car-prices-chip-shortage/

    "How crazy is the used car market? This auction sparked a bidding war over a two-year-old minivan.
    By Jeanne Whalen
    Today at 8:00 a.m. EDT|Updated today at 10:45 a.m. EDT
    LAWRENCEVILLE, N.J. — The 2019 Honda Civic that kicked off a used-car auction earlier this month would have been nothing special before the pandemic. But as automotive dealer Brad Wimmer watched, the online bidding quickly became, to quote him, “bananas.” As a new car, the Civic would have had a sticker price of around $21,000. But within seconds at the wholesale auction, the two-year-old model, with 4,000 miles, sold for $27,200. Soon after, a Nissan Rogue fetched what it would have cost new in 2018....."
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,318
    au1994 said:

    BMW V12’s, BMW V8’s even the HPFP issue on the I6. I’ve always said owning a high end German make out of warranty is not for the feint of heart. They are definitely not a 22r Toyota that goes 300k on oil changes alone.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    I love watching the car ninja tear into some of those.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,990

    @breld said:
    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    Automatic or manual transmission?

    I see a 340 in your near future :)

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,318
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @breld said:

    Well, on that note, my wife officially decided to not go with the A4 Allroad on order.

    After driving that MINI and 3-series back to back Monday evening, it was clear she liked what the 3-series has to offer. After looking at incoming inventory, she decided on a 2022 Mineral Gray 330i (xdrive) with black sensatec interior, M Sport, extended Shadowline, Premium package, Driver Assistance and power tailgate.

    The attractive thing is, since it’s an early 2022, she’s still getting some features that are now being deleted on new builds, like the head-up display, parking assistance and SiriusXM.

    They discounted the BMW $3,000 and gave us $60k for the Tesla. She’s really excited for the swap - she’s scheduled to get it on Saturday.

    Automatic or manual transmission?

    I see a 340 in your near future :)


    Surprisingly, the lovely Mrs. @breld is not addicted to HP.

    Remember, she's trading a Telsa for the 330. And, she had a MINI JCW before that.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,948
    She actually test drove a 2020 M340i with about 18k miles earlier in the week. She definitely liked the feel and sound of the engine, but at the end of the day, it seemed she liked it more because what other people (myself included) may think about it, rather than what she valued.

    She was clearly more excited about getting the new 330i. For that matter, this started with her driving a used 2019 330i, but that was missing at least one feature she wanted, and as you all know, the discounts for going used just aren't very compelling.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068
    yeah, I REALLY don't understand swapping a Tesla for a 330.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,118
    qbrozen said:

    yeah, I REALLY don't understand swapping a Tesla for a 330.

    +1
    2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWMember Posts: 3,182
    edited October 28
    qbrozen said:

    yeah, I REALLY don't understand swapping a Tesla for a 330.

    What’s hard to understand? They’re different.

    You @qbrozen should know - you are the CCBA Grand Poobah Lite.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,948
    Y'all seem to forget, the Tesla was never meant to be a keeper...we chose the Polestar 2 over it as an EV, and never intended to have two EVs (not that there's anything wrong with that).

    But...seeing how the market was going, we kept the order for the Model Y and decided to pull the trigger to turn a profit. Not breaking any new ground here. Doing so created a nice hefty down payment on a 3-series, which my wife actually test drove earlier in the summer as a MINI replacement.

    2021 Polestar 2 - 2022 M340i - 2021 Volvo XC90

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 5,948
    carnaught said:

    qbrozen said:

    yeah, I REALLY don't understand swapping a Tesla for a 330.

    What’s hard to understand? They’re different.

    You @qbrozen should know - you are the CCBA Grand Poobah Lite.
    Corrected.

    2021 Polestar 2 - 2022 M340i - 2021 Volvo XC90

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